An amateur soaring video...

[Andreas Maurer]

Folks,

I've been playing with $10 key cams lately.
Here's the result of last sunday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjSHjfEdwLs

Have fun.
Don't forget to turn up the volume.

Andreas

[Paul Remde]

The video is nice.

I'm curious about the camera. Do you have a link to a source or details?

Thanks,

Paul Remde

"Andreas Maurer" > wrote in message
...
> Folks,
>
> I've been playing with $10 key cams lately.
> Here's the result of last sunday:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjSHjfEdwLs
>
> Have fun.
> Don't forget to turn up the volume.
>
> Andreas

[Derek C]

On Sep 28, 3:38*pm, Andreas Maurer > wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I've been playing with $10 key cams lately.
> Here's the result of last sunday:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjSHjfEdwLs
>
> Have fun.
> Don't forget to turn up the volume.
>
> Andreas

Hi Andreas,

Amazing quality for such a low cost camera. How did you attach it to
the glider and how long will it record for?

Derek C

[Andreas Maurer]

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:31:57 -0700 (PDT), Derek C
> wrote:


>Hi Andreas,
>
>Amazing quality for such a low cost camera. How did you attach it to
>the glider and how long will it record for?

I simply used double-sided adhesive tape to attach the camera and
fibre tape as an additional safety measure. The camera is so light and
small that you can attach it anywhere.


It records about 45 minutes until the battery runs out, but it can use
up to 32 GB cards which would allow about 8 hrs of video.
I'm using a 4 GB card.

Andreas

[Andreas Maurer]

On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:31:57 -0700 (PDT), Derek C
> wrote:


>Amazing quality for such a low cost camera. How did you attach it to
>the glider and how long will it record for?

Hi Derek,

an annotation concerning the quality of the cameras:

They are even better than what shows up in YouTube (at the moment I'm
far from having perfected the video codec optimization, YouTube
demands some special formats to achieve best quality).

If you look closely (especially on the Ka-8 video), you can see that
one camera has a sharpness problem on the upper right edge.


Regards
Andreas

[Grider Pirate]

On Sep 28, 9:51*am, Andreas Maurer > wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:31:57 -0700 (PDT), Derek C
>
> > wrote:
> >Amazing quality for such a low cost camera. How did you attach it to
> >the glider and how long will it record for?
>
> Hi Derek,
>
> an annotation concerning the quality of the cameras:
>
> They are even better than what shows up in YouTube (at the moment I'm
> far from having perfected the video codec optimization, YouTube
> demands some special formats to achieve best quality).
>
> If you look closely (especially on the Ka-8 video), you can see that
> one camera has a sharpness problem on the upper right edge.
>
> Regards
> Andreas

Flaws and all, still very impressive for the price. I'm going to try
to get 4 or 5 of them ASAP!

[T8]

On Sep 28, 1:51*pm, Grider Pirate > wrote:
> On Sep 28, 9:51*am, Andreas Maurer > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:31:57 -0700 (PDT), Derek C
>
> > > wrote:
> > >Amazing quality for such a low cost camera. How did you attach it to
> > >the glider and how long will it record for?
>
> > Hi Derek,
>
> > an annotation concerning the quality of the cameras:
>
> > They are even better than what shows up in YouTube (at the moment I'm
> > far from having perfected the video codec optimization, YouTube
> > demands some special formats to achieve best quality).
>
> > If you look closely (especially on the Ka-8 video), you can see that
> > one camera has a sharpness problem on the upper right edge.
>
> > Regards
> > Andreas
>
> Flaws and all, still very impressive for the price. *I'm going to try
> to get 4 or 5 of them ASAP!

Useful info here: http://www.chucklohr.com/808/

[smithcorp]

I had ordered several of these from Ebay last week with the intention
of trying just this. As a couple of posters have pointed out, they are
known as 808 cameras and the chuck lohr link has lots of very useful
information. Do some research before you buy, because there are subtle
but important differences between the types of cameras fitted in these
little keychain cameras. Apparently, the best is Version (or type) 3.
They can be told apart by the resolution of the video they produce and
the postion and colour of the (removable) date stamp they produce.

They are apparently made using rejected mobile phone components and
model car and glider folk have been using them for a while. They are
small enough and cheap enough to stick on various places on a full-
sized glider to get some great videos. I've paid anything from $AU1 to
$10 for these on Ebay, most of which didn't come with memory - I
intend to use memory cards I already have rather than trust to
probably fake cards bundled with some from china and HK.

smith

[JC]

Great job!! No need for expensive equipment to produce an excellent
video.. Congratulations!

Juan Carlos

[smithcorp]

On Sep 29, 12:38*am, Andreas Maurer > wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I've been playing with $10 key cams lately.
> Here's the result of last sunday:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjSHjfEdwLs
>
> Have fun.
> Don't forget to turn up the volume.
>
> Andreas

Hi Andreas - I tried to post a link on the coments page for the video
(nice and clear by the way). Here's the message I tried to post:

Neat stuff - amazingly clear! You can change the date stamp easily
(see here:
http://www.chucklohr.com/808/#SetDateTime).

Also, please tell me how you attached the cameras to the outside of
the glider?

regards

smith

[Andreas Maurer]

On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 02:56:15 -0700 (PDT), smithcorp
> wrote:


>Neat stuff - amazingly clear! You can change the date stamp easily
>(see here:
>http://www.chucklohr.com/808/#SetDateTime).

I know - but so far i haven't figured out why the camera looses its
date from time to time.

I've been playing with a filter for virtual dub - it removes nearly
all of the time stamp.


>Also, please tell me how you attached the cameras to the outside of
>the glider?

Simple: double sided adhesive tape. The camera is so light and small
that this is completely sufficient.



Regards
Andreas

[Gregg Leslie[_2_]]

Link does not work!!



At 09:56 30 September 2010, smithcorp wrote:
>On Sep 29, 12:38=A0am, Andreas Maurer wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> I've been playing with $10 key cams lately.
>> Here's the result of last sunday:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAjSHjfEdwLs
>>
>> Have fun.
>> Don't forget to turn up the volume.
>>
>> Andreas
>
>Hi Andreas - I tried to post a link on the coments page for the video
>(nice and clear by the way). Here's the message I tried to post:
>
>Neat stuff - amazingly clear! You can change the date stamp easily
>(see here:
>http://www.chucklohr.com/808/#SetDateTime).
>
>Also, please tell me how you attached the cameras to the outside of
>the glider?
>
>regards
>
>smith
>

[smithcorp]

On Sep 30, 11:29*pm, Andreas Maurer > wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 02:56:15 -0700 (PDT), smithcorp
>
> > wrote:
> >Neat stuff - amazingly clear! You can change the date stamp easily
> >(see here:
> >http://www.chucklohr.com/808/#SetDateTime).
>
> I know - but so far i haven't figured out why the camera looses its
> date from time to time.
>
> I've been playing with a filter for virtual dub - it removes nearly
> all of the time stamp.
>
> >Also, please tell me how you attached the cameras to the outside of
> >the glider?
>
> Simple: double sided adhesive tape. The camera is so light and small
> that this is completely sufficient.
>
> Regards
> Andreas

Thanks Andreas - I'm giving this a try in a couple of weeks' time.

[smithcorp]

On Oct 1, 7:32*am, Gregg Leslie > wrote:
> Link *does not work!!
>
> At 09:56 30 September 2010, smithcorp wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Sep 29, 12:38=A0am, Andreas Maurer *wrote:
> >> Folks,
>
> >> I've been playing with $10 key cams lately.
> >> Here's the result of last sunday:
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DAjSHjfEdwLs
>
> >> Have fun.
> >> Don't forget to turn up the volume.
>
> >> Andreas
>
> >Hi Andreas - I tried to post a link on the coments page for the video
> >(nice and clear by the way). Here's the message I tried to post:
>
> >Neat stuff - amazingly clear! You can change the date stamp easily
> >(see here:
> >http://www.chucklohr.com/808/#SetDateTime).
>
> >Also, please tell me how you attached the cameras to the outside of
> >the glider?
>
> >regards
>
> >smith- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hi - if it's my link, you might need to copy and paste (I think an
errant parenthesis got stuck there) or try this one:

http://www.chucklohr.com/808/#SetDateTime

regards

smith

[Grider Pirate]

On Sep 28, 7:38*am, Andreas Maurer > wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I've been playing with $10 key cams lately.
> Here's the result of last sunday:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjSHjfEdwLs
>
> Have fun.
> Don't forget to turn up the volume.
>
> Andreas

I have ordered 5 of them, and they should arrive in plenty of time for
our club's dry lake auto-tow weekend. I plan to put at least 3 on my
glider!
Thanks for making me aware of these neat little recorders!

[Brad[_2_]]

On Sep 30, 3:56*pm, Grider Pirate > wrote:
> On Sep 28, 7:38*am, Andreas Maurer > wrote:
>
> > Folks,
>
> > I've been playing with $10 key cams lately.
> > Here's the result of last sunday:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjSHjfEdwLs
>
> > Have fun.
> > Don't forget to turn up the volume.
>
> > Andreas
>
> I have ordered 5 of them, and they should arrive in plenty of time for
> our club's dry lake auto-tow weekend. *I plan to put at least 3 on my
> glider!
> Thanks for making me aware of these neat little recorders!

I got one on order also, got it from some company in Baton Rouge LA.
Should be here in a few days.

Also read the Chuck Lohr website, well I skimmed it..............let's
hope we get units that indeed work!

Brad

[Gregg Leslie[_2_]]

Youtube says, vidieo not available..No luck opening it!



At 14:38 28 September 2010, Andreas Maurer wrote:
>Folks,
>
>I've been playing with $10 key cams lately.
>Here's the result of last sunday:
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjSHjfEdwLs
>
>Have fun.
>Don't forget to turn up the volume.
>
>Andreas
>

[Grider Pirate]

On Oct 1, 6:01*pm, Gregg Leslie > wrote:
> Youtube says, vidieo not available..No luck opening it!
>
> At 14:38 28 September 2010, Andreas Maurer wrote:
>
>
>
> >Folks,
>
> >I've been playing with $10 key cams lately.
> >Here's the result of last sunday:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjSHjfEdwLs
>
> >Have fun.
> >Don't forget to turn up the volume.
>
> >Andreas- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Still works fine for me! Got my (5) camaeras today!

[cfinn]

> Still works fine for me! *Got my (5) camaeras today!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Have you tried them yet? Which type are they?

Charlie

[Grider Pirate]

On Oct 1, 7:07*pm, cfinn > wrote:
> > Still works fine for me! *Got my (5) camaeras today!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Have you tried them yet? Which type are they?
>
> Charlie

I paid the big bucks ($20.00 each) for tested v3 cameras from
WingmanRC in Arizona. I bought Kingston Class 4 4 gig micro SD cards
from New Egg.com. Shipping was very cheap and very fast from both
places. I orderd them Wednesday and got them today. Total for 5
cameras, one USB microsd holder, and 5 4 gig micro SD chips, including
all shipping, handling, and taxes was right around $150.00

I've tested 3 of the 5 (I ran out of USB ports to charge them) and so
far, they're just fine. I'm going to the field tomorrow, and intend to
fly with them taped all over the plane.

[sisu1a]

> fly with them taped all over the plane.


Will one be mounted with a sheepseye view? ;)

-p

[Grider Pirate]

On Oct 1, 9:15*pm, sisu1a > wrote:
> > fly with them taped all over the plane.
>
> Will one be mounted with a sheepseye view? ;)
>
> -p

Of Course!

[Michel Talon]

Andreas Maurer wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I've been playing with $10 key cams lately.
> Here's the result of last sunday:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjSHjfEdwLs
>
> Have fun.
> Don't forget to turn up the volume.
>
> Andreas

Very nice video, Andreas, the country around Landau seems marvelous.


--
Michel Talon

[Brad[_2_]]

On Oct 1, 9:49*pm, Grider Pirate > wrote:
> On Oct 1, 9:15*pm, sisu1a > wrote:
>
> > > fly with them taped all over the plane.
>
> > Will one be mounted with a sheepseye view? ;)
>
> > -p
>
> Of Course!

I got my keychain camera today, I ordered it with the payment option
that included a micro SD card, of course the card is not with the
package, sigh............but I do have an e-mail to the seller and am
sure it will get resolved.

now, the instructions that came with it.............. If I ever buy a
soaring instrument with instructions as poorly written/translated as
these it will go in the garbage!

Brad

[Bob]

...and who will be the first to write a piece of editing software
allowing the 5 feeds to be time synchronized and outputting a 3D feed
for the new TV's.....

[Grider Pirate]

On Oct 2, 7:59*pm, Brad > wrote:
> On Oct 1, 9:49*pm, Grider Pirate > wrote:
>
> > On Oct 1, 9:15*pm, sisu1a > wrote:
>
> > > > fly with them taped all over the plane.
>
> > > Will one be mounted with a sheepseye view? ;)
>
> > > -p
>
> > Of Course!
>
> I got my keychain camera today, I ordered it with the payment option
> that included a micro SD card, of course the card is not with the
> package, sigh............but I do have an e-mail to the seller and am
> sure it will get resolved.
>
> now, the instructions that came with it.............. If I ever buy a
> soaring instrument with instructions as poorly written/translated as
> these it will go in the garbage!
>
> Brad

I flew with three stuck on my glider today. I am thoroughly impressed
with the video quality! There's a young club member with a Mac, and
Final Cut Professional, who has volunteered to do some editing.
I really like the camera view you get by taping it to the top of the
horizontal stab out near the tip. You get a pretty good view up
ahead, with some wing, the cockpit, and the wheel in view.

[Brad[_2_]]

On Oct 2, 9:20*pm, Grider Pirate > wrote:
> On Oct 2, 7:59*pm, Brad > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 1, 9:49*pm, Grider Pirate > wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 1, 9:15*pm, sisu1a > wrote:
>
> > > > > fly with them taped all over the plane.
>
> > > > Will one be mounted with a sheepseye view? ;)
>
> > > > -p
>
> > > Of Course!
>
> > I got my keychain camera today, I ordered it with the payment option
> > that included a micro SD card, of course the card is not with the
> > package, sigh............but I do have an e-mail to the seller and am
> > sure it will get resolved.
>
> > now, the instructions that came with it.............. If I ever buy a
> > soaring instrument with instructions as poorly written/translated as
> > these it will go in the garbage!
>
> > Brad
>
> I flew with three stuck on my glider today. *I am thoroughly impressed
> with the video quality! *There's a young club member with a Mac, and
> Final Cut Professional, who has volunteered to do some editing.
> I really like the camera view you get by taping it to the top of the
> horizontal stab out near the tip. *You get a pretty good view up
> ahead, with some wing, the cockpit, and the wheel in view.

what size micro card are you using?

Brad

[Grider Pirate]

On Oct 2, 9:29*pm, Brad > wrote:
> On Oct 2, 9:20*pm, Grider Pirate > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 2, 7:59*pm, Brad > wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 1, 9:49*pm, Grider Pirate > wrote:
>
> > > > On Oct 1, 9:15*pm, sisu1a > wrote:
>
> > > > > > fly with them taped all over the plane.
>
> > > > > Will one be mounted with a sheepseye view? ;)
>
> > > > > -p
>
> > > > Of Course!
>
> > > I got my keychain camera today, I ordered it with the payment option
> > > that included a micro SD card, of course the card is not with the
> > > package, sigh............but I do have an e-mail to the seller and am
> > > sure it will get resolved.
>
> > > now, the instructions that came with it.............. If I ever buy a
> > > soaring instrument with instructions as poorly written/translated as
> > > these it will go in the garbage!
>
> > > Brad
>
> > I flew with three stuck on my glider today. *I am thoroughly impressed
> > with the video quality! *There's a young club member with a Mac, and
> > Final Cut Professional, who has volunteered to do some editing.
> > I really like the camera view you get by taping it to the top of the
> > horizontal stab out near the tip. *You get a pretty good view up
> > ahead, with some wing, the cockpit, and the wheel in view.
>
> what size micro card are you using?
>
> Brad- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'm using Kingston Class 4 4 gig microSD's. I bought them from New
Egg.com for something like $8.89 each, plus around $3.00 shipping (NOT
each).

[Brad[_2_]]

On Oct 2, 8:12*pm, Bob > wrote:
> ..and who will be the first to write a piece of editing software
> allowing the 5 feeds to be time synchronized and outputting a 3D feed
> for the new TV's.....

who will be the first to repackage this unit, do away with the funky
button pushing-light flashing wondering if it is set
right..............and install the unit in a slick shell with a small
RC system to turn the unit on and off.

On = video record
Off = off

Brad

[Andreas Maurer]

On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 00:10:52 +0200, Michel Talon
> wrote:

Andreas
>
>Very nice video, Andreas, the country around Landau seems marvelous.

It is. :)


Andreas

[Dave Nadler]

On Oct 2, 6:10*pm, Michel Talon > wrote:
> ... the country around Landau seems marvelous.

It is ! Dave over Landau (flying out of Zweibruecken):
http://www.nadler.com/Antares/Antares_OverLandau.JPG

See ya, Dave "YO electric"

[rlovinggood]

>Very nice video, Andreas, the country around Landau seems marvelous.

I hope it still "is".

It "was" during my tenure there from 1983 till 1986. Lovely, just
lovely. It's located on the western edge of the Rhine river valley
with vineyards covering the rolling slopes of the valley. To the west
are low mountains with castle ruins dotting their peaks. Back in my
time there, the prevalent wine was Riesling. Don't know about now,
but the Rieslings were WONDERFUL!


Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
Wanting to some day to return to Landau

[jim wynhoff]

On Sep 28, 7:38*am, Andreas Maurer > wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I've been playing with $10 key cams lately.
> Here's the result of last sunday:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjSHjfEdwLs
>
> Have fun.
> Don't forget to turn up the volume.
>
> Andreas

I posted a hastily edited viideo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPuxtWCJazk
I'm still trying to figure out how to use the very basic video editor
I have, and used only video from the tail mounted camera for this vid.

[Brad[_2_]]

On Oct 3, 8:46*pm, jim wynhoff > wrote:
> On Sep 28, 7:38*am, Andreas Maurer > wrote:
>
> > Folks,
>
> > I've been playing with $10 key cams lately.
> > Here's the result of last sunday:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjSHjfEdwLs
>
> > Have fun.
> > Don't forget to turn up the volume.
>
> > Andreas
>
> I posted a hastily edited viideo:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPuxtWCJazk
> I'm still trying to figure out how to use the very basic video editor
> I have, and used only video from the tail mounted camera for this vid.

very nice Jim!

I see you cracked the time stamp.........I still can't get it to work,
any tips??

Regards,
Brad

[Grider Pirate]

On Oct 3, 9:06*pm, Brad > wrote:
> On Oct 3, 8:46*pm, jim wynhoff > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sep 28, 7:38*am, Andreas Maurer > wrote:
>
> > > Folks,
>
> > > I've been playing with $10 key cams lately.
> > > Here's the result of last sunday:
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjSHjfEdwLs
>
> > > Have fun.
> > > Don't forget to turn up the volume.
>
> > > Andreas
>
> > I posted a hastily edited viideo:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPuxtWCJazk
> > I'm still trying to figure out how to use the very basic video editor
> > I have, and used only video from the tail mounted camera for this vid.
>
> very nice Jim!
>
> I see you cracked the time stamp.........I still can't get it to work,
> any tips??
>
> Regards,
> Brad- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Check this:
http://www.chucklohr.com/808/C3/index.html#3Cam-DateTimeFileFormat

[Andreas Maurer]

On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 17:15:53 -0700 (PDT), Dave Nadler >
wrote:

>On Oct 2, 6:10*pm, Michel Talon > wrote:
>> ... the country around Landau seems marvelous.
>
>It is ! Dave over Landau (flying out of Zweibruecken):
>http://www.nadler.com/Antares/Antares_OverLandau.JPG

Cool... if you've got some time to spare next time you are at the
Lange factory, send me an email and visit my club! :)


CU at Landau
Andreas

[Andreas Maurer]

On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 17:54:45 -0700 (PDT), rlovinggood
> wrote:


>I hope it still "is".

Yup, it still "is". :)


>Don't know about now,
>but the Rieslings were WONDERFUL!

.... and they still are.
You are not planning a trip back to good ol' Europe by any chance, are
you?

>Wanting to some day to return to Landau

Whenever you like - we'll be there! :)


CU soon
Andreas