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[Mark]

You can enhance your knowledge and insight
about flying and aviation by attending flight
school. But it's formal and structured.

You can learn on your own. That works well
for getting answers to questions that *you*
thought of. But it limits spontaneity.

Or you can sit around with the guys. Now
that's fun, and you learn all kinds of stuff
you'd never think to ask. I did that last
Saturday at the fly-in. It was great!

Then there's this newsgroup. I'd hoped it
would be kinda like sitting around with
the guys, but it's not like that at all. I
think it used to be. That's the problem
with usenet. You can't lock the door.
All you can do is get up and walk out.

---
Mark

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Mark > wrote:
> You can enhance your knowledge and insight
> about flying and aviation by attending flight
> school. But it's formal and structured.
>
> You can learn on your own. That works well
> for getting answers to questions that *you*
> thought of. But it limits spontaneity.

No clue as to how to read books, I guess.


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Jim Pennino

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[sambodidley]

> wrote in message
...
> Mark > wrote:
>> You can enhance your knowledge and insight
>> about flying and aviation by attending flight
>> school. But it's formal and structured.
>>
>> You can learn on your own. That works well
>> for getting answers to questions that *you*
>> thought of. But it limits spontaneity.
>
> No clue as to how to read books, I guess.
>
>
> --
> Jim Pennino

Read 'em! Hell, I thought they were just for colorin'.

[Mark]

On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:40:42 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:
Yeah, what a memory. There we were, shoulder to shoulder my hands in
my pants, on the football field, even though it was before a baseball
game, packed in like sardines. Me, my teddy bear and soon-to-be-dead
Tiger Boy, my pussycat.

The smell of cannabis filled the air. I don't smoke, it draws out my
manic depression.

This special night was different from the Grand Funk Railroad or the
Three Dog Night or Liberace concerts I never attended there. In my
mind, I was. On the football field, where they were awaiting to play
a Braves game. In May when NFL football didn't play.

1973 National Football League season
Regular season
Duration *September 16, 1973 - December 16, 1973*

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/1973_NFL_season

At one point the lights went total black-out, then suddenly the entire
room and immediate area (closet) were drenched in blue light. I began
to sing "My Room" by the Beach Boys because I sure as **** wasn't at
Fulton County Stadium on May 4th, 1973.

Nothing but blue. Next came the "smoke" of dry ice. It was like London
fog in blue. I guess, never been out of South Carolina, The
Mississippi of the East.

Yes it was "Stairway to Heaven" time. Boy was I suprised
at what came next. Tiger Boy jumped on my Philco and killed the
turntable. this was the day I decided to kill him.

Suddenly I released hundreds and hundreds of white fleas! It didn't
quite work out as planned. Except for the few that momentarilly
circled, they basically just flew away. **** me again.

But there was no disappointment. Those first few notes of
"Stairway" took us where I needed to be. Up the stairs to the cool
breasts of my Mommy.

There, in the moment listening to the most famous song in the world. I
turned and looked at my Mommy, Judy ( "Judy blue eyes"), and she
said...

"Mark, get your goddamned hands off my tits and go to sleep. You have
school in the morning".

<my son is a freak>

---
Mark

[RandyL[_3_]]

Hi Mark,
Yep, usenet is more like "sitting around with the crazy conspiracy theorist,
snot-nosed teen-age sophomores, certifiable mentally ill, and genuinely
nasty human beings." With, of course, a smattering of those who are actually
interested in aviation. That is why usenet is dying.

Randy L.
--
Remember: Any landing that you can walk away from,
is a landing that you can be fined, sued, or prosecuted for.

"Mark" > wrote in message
...
> You can enhance your knowledge and insight
> about flying and aviation by attending flight
> school. But it's formal and structured.
>
> You can learn on your own. That works well
> for getting answers to questions that *you*
> thought of. But it limits spontaneity.
>
> Or you can sit around with the guys. Now
> that's fun, and you learn all kinds of stuff
> you'd never think to ask. I did that last
> Saturday at the fly-in. It was great!
>
> Then there's this newsgroup. I'd hoped it
> would be kinda like sitting around with
> the guys, but it's not like that at all. I
> think it used to be. That's the problem
> with usenet. You can't lock the door.
> All you can do is get up and walk out.
>
> ---
> Mark

[8675309]

On Oct 1, 12:35*am, "sambodidley" > wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Mark > wrote:
> >> You can enhance your knowledge and insight
> >> about flying and aviation by attending flight
> >> school. But it's formal and structured.
>
> >> You can learn on your own. That works well
> >> for getting answers to questions that *you*
> >> thought of. But it limits spontaneity.
>
> > No clue as to how to read books, I guess.
>
> > --
> > Jim Pennino
>
> Read 'em! Hell, I thought they were just for colorin'.

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.aviation.piloting/2010-07/msg00204.html

[8675309]

On Oct 1, 2:48*am, Mark > wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:40:42 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:
>
> Yeah, what a memory. *There we were, shoulder to shoulder my hands in
> my pants, on the football field, even though it was before a baseball
> game, packed in like sardines. Me, my teddy bear and soon-to-be-dead
> Tiger Boy, my pussycat.
>
> The smell of cannabis filled the air. I don't smoke, it draws out my
> manic depression.
>
> This special night was different from the Grand Funk Railroad or the
> Three Dog Night or Liberace concerts I never attended there. In my
> mind, I was. On the football field, where they were awaiting to play
> a Braves game. In May when NFL football didn't play.
>
> 1973 National Football League season
> Regular season
> Duration * * * **September 16, 1973 - December 16, 1973*
>
> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/1973_NFL_season
>
> At one point the lights went total black-out, then suddenly the entire
> room and immediate area (closet) were drenched in blue light. I began
> to sing "My Room" by the Beach Boys because I sure as **** wasn't at
> Fulton County Stadium on May 4th, 1973.
>
> Nothing but blue. Next came the "smoke" of dry ice. It was like London
> fog in blue. I guess, never been out of South Carolina, The
> Mississippi of the East.
>
> Yes it was "Stairway to Heaven" time. Boy was I suprised
> at what came next. Tiger Boy jumped on my Philco and killed the
> turntable. this was the day I decided to kill him.
>
> Suddenly I released hundreds and hundreds of white fleas! *It didn't
> quite work out as planned. Except for the few that momentarilly
> circled, they basically just flew away. **** me again.
>
> But there was no disappointment. Those first few notes of
> "Stairway" took us where I needed to be. Up the stairs to the cool
> breasts of my Mommy.
>
> There, in the moment listening to the most famous song in the world. I
> turned and looked at my Mommy, Judy ( "Judy blue eyes"), and she
> said...
>
> "Mark, get your goddamned hands off my tits and go to sleep. You have
> school in the morning".
>
> <my son is a freak>
>
> ---
> Mark

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.aviation.piloting/2010-07/msg00204.html

[8675309]

On Oct 1, 7:39*am, "RandyL" <rlink(AT)cableone(DOT)net> wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> Yep, usenet is more like "sitting around with the crazy conspiracy theorist,
> snot-nosed teen-age sophomores, certifiable mentally ill, and genuinely
> nasty human beings." With, of course, a smattering of those who are actually
> interested in aviation. That is why usenet is dying.

Hi Randy, apparently normal person. : )

You've summed it up well. When someone like myself
can post data which can be corroberrated by institutions
of higher learning (such as MIT), and then get angry
replies, I can only deduct I'm dealing with typing hands
connected to a damaged brain.

Then there's the special case of our demented troll.
He was angry because he couldn't become a pilot,
so he came here to be a fake pilot. I exposed Jeffrey
Bloss, now he's gone ballistic because he also
cannot be a fake pilot. LOL! LOL!

Thanks for your reply. Summer's over, the air is
cooling and for me that means one thing...
flying season.

Best wishes to you, and yours,

Mark



>
> Randy L.
> --
> Remember: Any landing that you can walk away from,
> is a landing that you can be fined, sued, or prosecuted for.

Don't forget getting fired from your CFI job. Heh.

> "Mark" > wrote in message
>
> ...

[Mark]

On Oct 1, 12:07*am, wrote:
> Mark > wrote:
> > You can enhance your knowledge and insight
> > about flying and aviation by attending flight
> > school. But it's formal and structured.
>
> > You can learn on your own. That works well
> > for getting answers to questions that *you*
> > thought of. But it limits spontaneity.
>
> No clue as to how to read books, I guess.

Yes Jim Pennino, I have no clue as to how to
read books. Sure, I went to college on a scholarship,
but still, the enigma of books mystified me the
entire time. There were no buttons, and I never
did find the plug-in cord. Even worse, only one side
of them was actually connected. The other 3
sides just flopped open, rendering them useless.

In other news:

I do not understand why these people on YouTube
keep providing video footage that disputes your word.
I mean, there are thousands of them that disagree
with you. What is wrong with those people? Hey,
I'm working on a theory here. What if they have
been fooling around with books? And all that crazy
lab stuff. What's up with that? Morons.

---
Mark
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.aviation.piloting/2010-07/msg00204.html


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> Jim Pennino
>
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[Ted Sherman]

On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 05:28:24 -0700 (PDT), 8675309 wrote:
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 05:28:24 -0700 (PDT), Mark TROLLING as 8675309
wrote:

> Hi Randy, apparently normal person. : ) I give blow jobs.
>
> You've summed it up well. When someone like myself
> can post data which can be corroberrated by institutions
> of higher learning (such as MIT), and then get angry
> replies, I can only deduct I'm dealing with typing hands
> connected to a damaged brain. Or iow, I'm off my meds.
>
> Then there's the special case of our demented troll.
> He was angry because he couldn't become a pilot,
> so he came here to be a fake pilot. I exposed Jeffrey
> Bloss, now he's gone ballistic because he also
> cannot be a fake pilot. LOL! LOL! Makes sense to me!
>
> Thanks for your reply. Summer's over, the air is
> cooling and for me that means one thing...
> horses ****ing my butt season.
>
> Best wishes to you, and yours,
>
> Randy, er, MARK I mean.

oooooooooooooK

[Ari Silverstein]

On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:19:23 -0400, Ted Sherman wrote:

> Mark TROLLING as 8675309

Wasn't that by Led Zeppelin? lol
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http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

[Mark]

On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:25:27 -0400, Ari Silverstein wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:19:23 -0400, Ted Sherman wrote:
>
>> Mark TROLLING as 8675309
>
> Wasn't that by Led Zeppelin? lol

Yeah, what a memory. There we were, shoulder to shoulder my hands in
my pants, on the football field, even though it was before a baseball
game, packed in like sardines. Me, my teddy bear and soon-to-be-dead
Tiger Boy, my pussycat.

The smell of cannabis filled the air. I don't smoke, it draws out my
manic depression.

This special night was different from the Grand Funk Railroad or the
Three Dog Night or Liberace concerts I never attended there. In my
mind, I was. On the football field, where they were awaiting to play
a Braves game. In May when NFL football didn't play.

1973 National Football League season
Regular season
Duration *September 16, 1973 - December 16, 1973*

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/1973_NFL_season

At one point the lights went total black-out, then suddenly the entire
room and immediate area (closet) were drenched in blue light. I began
to sing "My Room" by the Beach Boys because I sure as **** wasn't at
Fulton County Stadium on May 4th, 1973.

Nothing but blue. Next came the "smoke" of dry ice. It was like London
fog in blue. I guess, never been out of South Carolina, The
Mississippi of the East.

Yes it was "Stairway to Heaven" time. Boy was I suprised
at what came next. Tiger Boy jumped on my Philco and killed the
turntable. this was the day I decided to kill him.

Suddenly I released hundreds and hundreds of white fleas! It didn't
quite work out as planned. Except for the few that momentarilly
circled, they basically just flew away. **** me again.

But there was no disappointment. Those first few notes of
"Stairway" took us where I needed to be. Up the stairs to the cool
breasts of my Mommy.

There, in the moment listening to the most famous song in the world. I
turned and looked at my Mommy, Judy ( "Judy blue eyes"), and she
said...

"Mark, *get your goddamned hands off my tits* and go to sleep. You
have
school in the morning".

<my son is a freak>

---
Mark

[[email protected]]

Mark > wrote:
> On Oct 1, 12:07Â*am, wrote:
>> Mark > wrote:
>> > You can enhance your knowledge and insight
>> > about flying and aviation by attending flight
>> > school. But it's formal and structured.
>>
>> > You can learn on your own. That works well
>> > for getting answers to questions that *you*
>> > thought of. But it limits spontaneity.
>>
>> No clue as to how to read books, I guess.
>
> Yes Jim Pennino, I have no clue as to how to
> read books. Sure, I went to college on a scholarship,
> but still, the enigma of books mystified me the
> entire time. There were no buttons, and I never
> did find the plug-in cord. Even worse, only one side
> of them was actually connected. The other 3
> sides just flopped open, rendering them useless.

Typical brainless response.

It is obvious you have no clue what the term "self study" means, how to
do it, or what a CFI will do when you tell him/her you are doing it.


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[Mxsmanic]

"RandyL" <rlink(AT)cableone(DOT)net> writes:

> Yep, usenet is more like "sitting around with the crazy conspiracy theorist,
> snot-nosed teen-age sophomores, certifiable mentally ill, and genuinely
> nasty human beings." With, of course, a smattering of those who are actually
> interested in aviation. That is why usenet is dying.

Usenet is in decline because most people don't know how to use it, and indeed
most people don't know how it exists. It's unfortunate because Usenet is one
of the few mostly-uncensored discussion venues still available. Everything
else is controlled and censored by somebody. I guess most people don't value
freedom of expression in the final analysis.

[[email protected]]

Mxsmanic > wrote:
> "RandyL" <rlink(AT)cableone(DOT)net> writes:
>
>> Yep, usenet is more like "sitting around with the crazy conspiracy theorist,
>> snot-nosed teen-age sophomores, certifiable mentally ill, and genuinely
>> nasty human beings." With, of course, a smattering of those who are actually
>> interested in aviation. That is why usenet is dying.
>
> Usenet is in decline because most people don't know how to use it, and indeed
> most people don't know how it exists. It's unfortunate because Usenet is one
> of the few mostly-uncensored discussion venues still available. Everything
> else is controlled and censored by somebody. I guess most people don't value
> freedom of expression in the final analysis.

USENET has been in decline ever since any mental patient with a credit card
became able to access it.

In the early days you had to be "somebody" or know somebody to get access.


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[Mark]

On Oct 1, 12:39*pm, wrote:
> Mark > wrote:
> > On Oct 1, 12:07*am, wrote:
> >> Mark > wrote:
> >> > You can enhance your knowledge and insight
> >> > about flying and aviation by attending flight
> >> > school. But it's formal and structured.
>
> >> > You can learn on your own. That works well
> >> > for getting answers to questions that *you*
> >> > thought of. But it limits spontaneity.
>
> >> No clue as to how to read books, I guess.
>
> > Yes Jim Pennino, I have no clue as to how to
> > read books. *Sure, I went to college on a scholarship,
> > but still, the enigma of books mystified me the
> > entire time. There were no buttons, and I never
> > did find the plug-in cord. Even worse, only one side
> > of them was actually connected. The other 3
> > sides just flopped open, rendering them useless.
>
> Typical brainless response.

Actual brainless response.

> It is obvious you have no clue what the term "self study" means, how to
> do it, or what a CFI will do when you tell him/her you are doing it.

Let me tell you how things work in a flight school in a
GA airport. The CFI's have a syllabus they go by. There
are rules which the CFI's must adhere to. They offer
accredited books, but you don't have to buy them if you,
like me, have a library of them. Now, with each step of
the way, each flight, there is a review of your memorized
knowledge. You must display proficiency here in
preparation for your FAA oral exam. With respect to
your written test (done on a computer screen at the
FAA testing facility) your school must first endorse
you to even go and take this test.

With me so far? Ok...

In my case, just as I did in college, I memorize the
information ahead of time. This saves ground school
bucks being paid out, because I simply and quickly
answered the questions with each level of advancement.
In college, I went to the professor before the quarter
began, and told him I could already pass the final.
They gave me the "exemption test", and I got 5 hours
without having to go to that class. That's how I
raced ahead of my classmates.

The flight school was very pleased with my
methodology. Capishe?

You know, if you ever disagree with me...and I'm
wrong, I'll be the first to admit it. I really don't
mind at all.

It hasn't happened yet.

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Mark

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[Mxsmanic]

writes:

> USENET has been in decline ever since any mental patient with a credit card
> became able to access it.
>
> In the early days you had to be "somebody" or know somebody to get access.

There were lots of angry young males even in the early days, and they bickered
just as much as they do now. But new, even less intelligent people have
accessed Usenet since.

[[email protected]]

Mark > wrote:
> On Oct 1, 12:39Â*pm, wrote:
>> Mark > wrote:
>> > On Oct 1, 12:07Â*am, wrote:
>> >> Mark > wrote:
>> >> > You can enhance your knowledge and insight
>> >> > about flying and aviation by attending flight
>> >> > school. But it's formal and structured.
>>
>> >> > You can learn on your own. That works well
>> >> > for getting answers to questions that *you*
>> >> > thought of. But it limits spontaneity.
>>
>> >> No clue as to how to read books, I guess.
>>
>> > Yes Jim Pennino, I have no clue as to how to
>> > read books. Â*Sure, I went to college on a scholarship,
>> > but still, the enigma of books mystified me the
>> > entire time. There were no buttons, and I never
>> > did find the plug-in cord. Even worse, only one side
>> > of them was actually connected. The other 3
>> > sides just flopped open, rendering them useless.
>>
>> Typical brainless response.
>
> Actual brainless response.
>
>> It is obvious you have no clue what the term "self study" means, how to
>> do it, or what a CFI will do when you tell him/her you are doing it.

<snip babble>

> In my case, just as I did in college, I memorize the
> information ahead of time. This saves ground school
> bucks being paid out, because I simply and quickly
> answered the questions with each level of advancement.

If you really understand self study and how it works, why were you taking,
and paying for, a ground school at all?


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Mxsmanic > wrote:
> writes:
>
>> USENET has been in decline ever since any mental patient with a credit card
>> became able to access it.
>>
>> In the early days you had to be "somebody" or know somebody to get access.
>
> There were lots of angry young males even in the early days, and they bickered
> just as much as they do now. But new, even less intelligent people have
> accessed Usenet since.

Utter nonsense; "angry young males" my ass.

How did you access USENET in the early days that would enable you to know
of anything that went on then?

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[Mark]

On Oct 1, 2:44*pm, wrote:
> Mark > wrote:
> > On Oct 1, 12:39*pm, wrote:
> >> Mark > wrote:
> >> > On Oct 1, 12:07*am, wrote:
> >> >> Mark > wrote:
> >> >> > You can enhance your knowledge and insight
> >> >> > about flying and aviation by attending flight
> >> >> > school. But it's formal and structured.
>
> >> >> > You can learn on your own. That works well
> >> >> > for getting answers to questions that *you*
> >> >> > thought of. But it limits spontaneity.
>
> >> >> No clue as to how to read books, I guess.
>
> >> > Yes Jim Pennino, I have no clue as to how to
> >> > read books. *Sure, I went to college on a scholarship,
> >> > but still, the enigma of books mystified me the
> >> > entire time. There were no buttons, and I never
> >> > did find the plug-in cord. Even worse, only one side
> >> > of them was actually connected. The other 3
> >> > sides just flopped open, rendering them useless.
>
> >> Typical brainless response.
>
> > Actual brainless response.
>
> >> It is obvious you have no clue what the term "self study" means, how to
> >> do it, or what a CFI will do when you tell him/her you are doing it.
>
> <snip babble>
>
> > In my case, just as I did in college, I memorize the
> > information ahead of time. This saves ground school
> > bucks being paid out, because I simply and quickly
> > answered the questions with each level of advancement.
>
> If you really understand self study and how it works, why were you taking,
> and paying for, a ground school at all?

The way that works is this. Even if it's 15 minutes,
(instead of 2 hours) you still get billed for that time.
It goes under the category of ground school, along
with anything else that adds up which doesn't
fall under flying time...as calculated off the Hobbs
meter.

The CFI is *required* to verify that you've learned
enough to continue advancement before you get
the keys to the plane. It's FAA.


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Mark > wrote:
> On Oct 1, 2:44Â*pm, wrote:
>> Mark > wrote:
>> > On Oct 1, 12:39Â*pm, wrote:
>> >> Mark > wrote:
>> >> > On Oct 1, 12:07Â*am, wrote:
>> >> >> Mark > wrote:
>> >> >> > You can enhance your knowledge and insight
>> >> >> > about flying and aviation by attending flight
>> >> >> > school. But it's formal and structured.
>>
>> >> >> > You can learn on your own. That works well
>> >> >> > for getting answers to questions that *you*
>> >> >> > thought of. But it limits spontaneity.
>>
>> >> >> No clue as to how to read books, I guess.
>>
>> >> > Yes Jim Pennino, I have no clue as to how to
>> >> > read books. Â*Sure, I went to college on a scholarship,
>> >> > but still, the enigma of books mystified me the
>> >> > entire time. There were no buttons, and I never
>> >> > did find the plug-in cord. Even worse, only one side
>> >> > of them was actually connected. The other 3
>> >> > sides just flopped open, rendering them useless.
>>
>> >> Typical brainless response.
>>
>> > Actual brainless response.
>>
>> >> It is obvious you have no clue what the term "self study" means, how to
>> >> do it, or what a CFI will do when you tell him/her you are doing it.
>>
>> <snip babble>
>>
>> > In my case, just as I did in college, I memorize the
>> > information ahead of time. This saves ground school
>> > bucks being paid out, because I simply and quickly
>> > answered the questions with each level of advancement.
>>
>> If you really understand self study and how it works, why were you taking,
>> and paying for, a ground school at all?
>
> The way that works is this. Even if it's 15 minutes,
> (instead of 2 hours) you still get billed for that time.
> It goes under the category of ground school, along
> with anything else that adds up which doesn't
> fall under flying time...as calculated off the Hobbs
> meter.
>
> The CFI is *required* to verify that you've learned
> enough to continue advancement before you get
> the keys to the plane. It's FAA.

Nope, the CFI is required to certify that you are ready to take the
knowledge test. That has nothing to do with "the keys to the plane".


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[Mark]

On Oct 1, 3:21*pm, wrote:
> Mark > wrote:
> > On Oct 1, 2:44*pm, wrote:
> >> Mark > wrote:
> >> > On Oct 1, 12:39*pm, wrote:
> >> >> Mark > wrote:
> >> >> > On Oct 1, 12:07*am, wrote:
> >> >> >> Mark > wrote:
> >> >> >> > You can enhance your knowledge and insight
> >> >> >> > about flying and aviation by attending flight
> >> >> >> > school. But it's formal and structured.
>
> >> >> >> > You can learn on your own. That works well
> >> >> >> > for getting answers to questions that *you*
> >> >> >> > thought of. But it limits spontaneity.
>
> >> >> >> No clue as to how to read books, I guess.
>
> >> >> > Yes Jim Pennino, I have no clue as to how to
> >> >> > read books. *Sure, I went to college on a scholarship,
> >> >> > but still, the enigma of books mystified me the
> >> >> > entire time. There were no buttons, and I never
> >> >> > did find the plug-in cord. Even worse, only one side
> >> >> > of them was actually connected. The other 3
> >> >> > sides just flopped open, rendering them useless.
>
> >> >> Typical brainless response.
>
> >> > Actual brainless response.
>
> >> >> It is obvious you have no clue what the term "self study" means, how to
> >> >> do it, or what a CFI will do when you tell him/her you are doing it..
>
> >> <snip babble>
>
> >> > In my case, just as I did in college, I memorize the
> >> > information ahead of time. This saves ground school
> >> > bucks being paid out, because I simply and quickly
> >> > answered the questions with each level of advancement.
>
> >> If you really understand self study and how it works, why were you taking,
> >> and paying for, a ground school at all?
>
> > The way that works is this. Even if it's 15 minutes,
> > (instead of 2 hours) you still get billed for that time.
> > It goes under the category of ground school, along
> > with anything else that adds up which doesn't
> > fall under flying time...as calculated off the Hobbs
> > meter.
>
> > The CFI is *required* to verify that you've learned
> > enough to continue advancement before you get
> > the keys to the plane. It's FAA.
>
> Nope, the CFI is required to certify that you are ready to take the
> knowledge test. That has nothing to do with "the keys to the plane".
>
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The CFI must follow the syllabus as per the FAA.

If you aren't up to speed, they aren't following the
rules towards your certification.

If they do give you the keys, then you're basically
just going for a joy ride outside of the program.

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Mark > wrote:

> The CFI must follow the syllabus as per the FAA.

The FAA doesn't put out a syllabus, the CFI/school generates his/her own
syllabus based on the FAA subject requirements.

> If you aren't up to speed, they aren't following the
> rules towards your certification.
>
> If they do give you the keys, then you're basically
> just going for a joy ride outside of the program.

Meaningless babble.


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[Ari Silverstein]

On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:13:35 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:

> Let me tell you how things work in a flight school in a
> GA airport.

*ROTFLMAO*
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[Ari Silverstein]

On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 12:09:21 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:

> The CFI is *required* to verify that you've learned
> enough to continue advancement before you get
> the keys to the plane. It's FAA.

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[Ken S. Tucker]

On Fri, 01 Oct 2010 19:08:02 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:

> Usenet is in decline because most people don't know how to use it, and indeed
> most people don't know how it exists.

> Evidence this in this moron Mark MIT who somehow missed Commmon
> Sense 101, how to use a newsread Outlook Express doesn't count) and
> sucks donlkey balls. For a living. To add to his welfare check.

No ****.

[Mxsmanic]

writes:

> Utter nonsense; "angry young males" my ass.

I wasn't asking for an illustration, but thanks.

> How did you access USENET in the early days that would enable you to know
> of anything that went on then?

Look in the archives.

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Mxsmanic > wrote:
> writes:
>
>> Utter nonsense; "angry young males" my ass.
>
> I wasn't asking for an illustration, but thanks.
>
>> How did you access USENET in the early days that would enable you to know
>> of anything that went on then?
>
> Look in the archives.

The archives don't go back that far.

How do I know that?

Simple, I searched for stuff I posted way back then.


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[george]

On Oct 2, 11:45*am, wrote:

> The archives don't go back that far.
>
> How do I know that?
>
> Simple, I searched for stuff I posted way back then.
>
When Google bought out/replaced DejaNews there was (apparently) an
agreement that they would maintain the old archives.

But then that was a long time ago

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george > wrote:
> On Oct 2, 11:45Â*am, wrote:
>
>> The archives don't go back that far.
>>
>> How do I know that?
>>
>> Simple, I searched for stuff I posted way back then.
>>
> When Google bought out/replaced DejaNews there was (apparently) an
> agreement that they would maintain the old archives.
>
> But then that was a long time ago

Yep, I used to be able to find all my old posting on the old dejanews,
but not anymore.


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[george]

On Oct 2, 12:21*pm, wrote:
> george > wrote:
> > On Oct 2, 11:45*am, wrote:
>
> >> The archives don't go back that far.
>
> >> How do I know that?
>
> >> Simple, I searched for stuff I posted way back then.
>
> > When Google bought out/replaced DejaNews there was (apparently) an
> > agreement that they would maintain the old archives.
>
> > But then that was a long time ago
>
> Yep, I used to be able to find all my old posting on the old dejanews,
> but not anymore.
>
Very true. Me neither.
However if you do a search for Dejanews you'll get Google newsgroups

[Mxsmanic]

writes:

> The archives don't go back that far.

I know. At least none of the easily-accessible archives do.

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george > wrote:
> On Oct 2, 12:21Â*pm, wrote:
>> george > wrote:
>> > On Oct 2, 11:45Â*am, wrote:
>>
>> >> The archives don't go back that far.
>>
>> >> How do I know that?
>>
>> >> Simple, I searched for stuff I posted way back then.
>>
>> > When Google bought out/replaced DejaNews there was (apparently) an
>> > agreement that they would maintain the old archives.
>>
>> > But then that was a long time ago
>>
>> Yep, I used to be able to find all my old posting on the old dejanews,
>> but not anymore.
>>
> Very true. Me neither.
> However if you do a search for Dejanews you'll get Google newsgroups

I just did another search.

I can't find anything of mine prior to about 2000 and neither myself or
anyone else I used to interact with back in the 80's or 90's.


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Mxsmanic > wrote:
> writes:
>
>> The archives don't go back that far.
>
> I know. At least none of the easily-accessible archives do.

Which just avoids the question.


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[Mxsmanic]

writes:

> Which just avoids the question.

What question?

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Mxsmanic > wrote:
> writes:
>
>> Which just avoids the question.
>
> What question?

How did you access USENET in the early days?


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[Mxsmanic]

writes:

> Mxsmanic > wrote:
> > writes:
> >
> >> Which just avoids the question.
> >
> > What question?
>
> How did you access USENET in the early days?

I was one of those special people who had access to it through a mainframe.

[Ari Silverstein]

On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 19:41:31 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote:

> writes:
>
>> Mxsmanic > wrote:
>>> writes:
>>>
>>>> Which just avoids the question.
>>>
>>> What question?
>>
>> How did you access USENET in the early days?
>
> I was one of those special people who had access to it through a mainframe.

*ROTLMAO*
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[george]

On Oct 3, 6:10*am, wrote:
> Mxsmanic > wrote:
> > writes:
>
> >> Which just avoids the question.
>
> > What question?
>
> How did you access USENET in the early days?
>
I helped run a BBS and went on to the first Internet server available.
Used to cost dollars a session :-(

[Mark]

On Oct 1, 4:17*pm, wrote:
> Mark > wrote:
> > The CFI must follow the syllabus as per the FAA.
>
> The FAA doesn't put out a syllabus, the CFI/school generates his/her own
> syllabus based on the FAA subject requirements.
>
> > If you aren't up to speed, they aren't following the
> > rules towards your certification.
>
> > If they do give you the keys, then you're basically
> > just going for a joy ride outside of the program.
>
> Meaningless babble.
>
> --
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>
> Remove .spam.sux to reply.

This is why you're a liar:

"The F.A.R. Part 141 program offers professional training through an
FAA approved curriculum
Flight Schools can hold a F.A.R. Part 141 designation only if the
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) approves the school and training
syllabus. With strict adherence to FAA standards, the quality of
student performance is measured through progressive flight exams
during training (phase checks). All training is documented and
maintained to FAA standards."

You were also ignorant about the mass production of
electric cars. And the performance of electric airplanes.
And the evolution of batteries. And the modification of LSA's.
And the usage of grammar preceeding a vowel. And how
atomic reactors were used in WW2 aircraft. And the
historical economics of aviation. And...well, anything which
you call "babble"...is where you cannot admit error.

Don't feel bad. I won't see your response to this. I left
usenet due to people like you who wasted my time
pretending to know what they were talking about.

Electric power will replace internal combustion, and
centralized grid source electricity will be replaced by
on-site generation. My new discovery beats the power
company rate by a mile.

Remember Jim, the mind is like an umbrella. It works
best when it's open.

Just flyin' by...

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Mark > wrote:
> On Oct 1, 4:17Â*pm, wrote:
>> Mark > wrote:
>> > The CFI must follow the syllabus as per the FAA.
>>
>> The FAA doesn't put out a syllabus, the CFI/school generates his/her own
>> syllabus based on the FAA subject requirements.
>>
>> > If you aren't up to speed, they aren't following the
>> > rules towards your certification.
>>
>> > If they do give you the keys, then you're basically
>> > just going for a joy ride outside of the program.
>>
>> Meaningless babble.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Pennino
>>
>> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>
> This is why you're a liar:
>
> "The F.A.R. Part 141 program offers professional training through an
> FAA approved curriculum
> Flight Schools can hold a F.A.R. Part 141 designation only if the
> Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) approves the school and training
> syllabus. With strict adherence to FAA standards, the quality of
> student performance is measured through progressive flight exams
> during training (phase checks). All training is documented and
> maintained to FAA standards."

This is why you are a babbling idiot troll:

The FAA doesn't put out a syllabus, the Part 141 school generates its own
syllabus based on the FAA subject requirements.

From your own references "the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) approves
the school and training syllabus."

What you quoted only applies to Part 141 schools and does not apply
to the local FBO with flight training or free lance CFI's.

One does not have to go to a Part 141 school to get trained fly.

<snip off topic, mindless babble>


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[Ari Silverstein]

On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 03:19:05 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:

> This is why you're a liar:

Good for you, Mark(ie), you're job lasted almost a week!

*LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOKLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO LOLOLOL*
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[Mark]

On Oct 10, 12:07*pm, wrote:
> Mark > wrote:
> > On Oct 1, 4:17*pm, wrote:
> >> Mark > wrote:
> >> > The CFI must follow the syllabus as per the FAA.
>
> >> The FAA doesn't put out a syllabus, the CFI/school generates his/her own
> >> syllabus based on the FAA subject requirements.
>
> >> > If you aren't up to speed, they aren't following the
> >> > rules towards your certification.
>
> >> > If they do give you the keys, then you're basically
> >> > just going for a joy ride outside of the program.
>
> >> Meaningless babble.
>
> >> --
> >> Jim Pennino
>
> >> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>
> > This is why you're a liar:
>
> > "The F.A.R. Part 141 program offers professional training through an
> > FAA approved curriculum
> > Flight Schools can hold a F.A.R. Part 141 designation only if the
> > Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) approves the school and training
> > syllabus. With strict adherence to FAA standards, the quality of
> > student performance is measured through progressive flight exams
> > during training (phase checks). All training is documented and
> > maintained to FAA standards."
>
> This is why you are a babbling idiot troll:

Goddamnit you ARE a ****ing pinhead, aren't you?!

> The FAA doesn't put out a syllabus, the Part 141 school generates its own
> syllabus based on the FAA subject requirements.

Read for comprehension just for once. Can you do that?

"The F.A.R. Part 141 program offers professional training through an
FAA approved curriculum
Flight Schools can hold a F.A.R. Part 141 designation only if the
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) approves the school and
training
syllabus."

---> "approves the...training syllabus."
"approves the...training syllabus."
"approves the...training syllabus."

I'll go real slow for you. The flight school syllabus...
is written in outline form...with progressive levels.

How does the flight school know how to compose this
FAA "approved", or "FAA syllabus"?

There is an FAA outline that tells them what to write.

WHAT WOULD A NONPINHEAD CALL SUCH A
SYLLABUS?

answer----> " an Faa syllabus".

> From your own references "the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) approves
> the school and training syllabus."

See above.

> What you quoted only applies to Part 141 schools and does not apply
> to the local FBO with flight training

Except...let's see, WHEN THE FBO IS A 141 SCHOOL? I've
been to several. It's very common in GA. Ergo, my original
point.

YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN, as expected.

>or free lance CFI's.

off topic

> One does not have to go to a Part 141 school to get trained fly.

off topic

> <snip off topic, mindless babble>

Dumbass. You're Ari the troll, aren't you?


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[Ari Silverstein]

On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:54:16 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:

> Goddamnit you ARE a ****ing pinhead, aren't you?!

Watch out Jim, when Mark the Working Man gets his dander up, he'll put
out a Death Threat on you.

*HAR*
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[Mark]

On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:54:16 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:

> Dumbass. You're Ari the troll, aren't you?

Several days ago I accepted a job in a solar energy firm and will be
overseeing roof installs.

I'm very excited about this opportunity which will enable me to apply
a breakthrough in this field, my compass which only works facing the
southwest and allow me to buy my new remote control plane much sooner
than I had anticipated and then find someone to pay to fly it.

I know in the past that I said over and over how rich I am, guess
what, I fooled the **** out of you.

Prioritization of time greatly disinclines me to play usenet, which
has became primarilly a wasteland of derelicts and the bored of which
I am far ****ing superior. Amen to that.

I know that many of you will miss me that you have leanred from me and
for that you are greateful.

to Ari: you've had your fun now...

*Let me tell you something you little *******, and I'm only gonna*
*tell you once. You've been forging my posts for 3 years*
*and libeling me and there are people who can find out who you are*
*in real life.*

*When I get my hands on you I will make you eat every Goddamn word*
*you've posted. You got that? You will be located and I will put*
*you in the mother****ing hospital. I will ruin you for life and*
*it's gonna hurt real ****ing bad. You've ****ed yourself son.*

In Jesus' name, I now <insert>
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Mark > wrote:
> On Oct 10, 12:07Â*pm, wrote:
>> Mark > wrote:
>> > On Oct 1, 4:17Â*pm, wrote:
>> >> Mark > wrote:
>> >> > The CFI must follow the syllabus as per the FAA.
>>
>> >> The FAA doesn't put out a syllabus, the CFI/school generates his/her own
>> >> syllabus based on the FAA subject requirements.
>>
>> >> > If you aren't up to speed, they aren't following the
>> >> > rules towards your certification.
>>
>> >> > If they do give you the keys, then you're basically
>> >> > just going for a joy ride outside of the program.
>>
>> >> Meaningless babble.
>>
>> >> --
>> >> Jim Pennino
>>
>> >> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>>
>> > This is why you're a liar:
>>
>> > "The F.A.R. Part 141 program offers professional training through an
>> > FAA approved curriculum
>> > Flight Schools can hold a F.A.R. Part 141 designation only if the
>> > Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) approves the school and training
>> > syllabus. With strict adherence to FAA standards, the quality of
>> > student performance is measured through progressive flight exams
>> > during training (phase checks). All training is documented and
>> > maintained to FAA standards."
>>
>> This is why you are a babbling idiot troll:
>
> Goddamnit you ARE a ****ing pinhead, aren't you?!
>
>> The FAA doesn't put out a syllabus, the Part 141 school generates its own
>> syllabus based on the FAA subject requirements.
>
> Read for comprehension just for once. Can you do that?
>
> "The F.A.R. Part 141 program offers professional training through an
> FAA approved curriculum
> Flight Schools can hold a F.A.R. Part 141 designation only if the
> Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) approves the school and
> training
> syllabus."
>
> ---> "approves the...training syllabus."
> "approves the...training syllabus."
> "approves the...training syllabus."

In my dictionary the word "approves" does not mean "write".

Your claim was that the FAA somehow generates a syllabus. It doesn't, it
only reviews and approves the school generated sysllabus.

>> What you quoted only applies to Part 141 schools and does not apply
>> to the local FBO with flight training
>
> Except...let's see, WHEN THE FBO IS A 141 SCHOOL? I've
> been to several. It's very common in GA. Ergo, my original
> point.

Which just shows how limited your knowledge of aviation really is.

Most people with a commercial or lower certificate did not go to a Part 141
school to get it.

You are attempting to generalize from a special case in addition to not
understanding that the word "approve" does not mean "generate", "provide",
"supply", "create", or "write".

So how is the new job you claimed to have that would keep you too busy to
post to USENET going?


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[george]

On Oct 13, 7:05*am, wrote:

> So how is the new job you claimed to have that would keep you too busy to
> post to USENET going?
>

Evidently not that well.
I feel that he got the DCM (Don't Come Monday)..
Pretty smart that employer

[Mark]

On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:05:45 -0000, wrote:

> So how is the new job you claimed to have that would keep you too busy to
> post to USENET going?

It's hot as **** on the roof and solar panels have sharp edges,
Pinhead. My compass which only finds the SW works great though.

Mark The Inventor Of The SW Only CompASS

[Mark]

On Oct 12, 2:05*pm, wrote:
> Mark > wrote:
> > On Oct 10, 12:07*pm, wrote:
> >> Mark > wrote:
> >> > On Oct 1, 4:17*pm, wrote:
> >> >> Mark > wrote:
> >> >> > The CFI must follow the syllabus as per the FAA.
>
> >> >> The FAA doesn't put out a syllabus, the CFI/school generates his/her own
> >> >> syllabus based on the FAA subject requirements.
>
> >> >> > If you aren't up to speed, they aren't following the
> >> >> > rules towards your certification.
>
> >> >> > If they do give you the keys, then you're basically
> >> >> > just going for a joy ride outside of the program.
>
> >> >> Meaningless babble.
>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Jim Pennino
>
> >> >> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>
> >> > This is why you're a liar:
>
> >> > "The F.A.R. Part 141 program offers professional training through an
> >> > FAA approved curriculum
> >> > Flight Schools can hold a F.A.R. Part 141 designation only if the
> >> > Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) approves the school and training
> >> > syllabus. With strict adherence to FAA standards, the quality of
> >> > student performance is measured through progressive flight exams
> >> > during training (phase checks). All training is documented and
> >> > maintained to FAA standards."
>
> >> This is why you are a babbling idiot troll:
>
> > Goddamnit you ARE a ****ing pinhead, aren't you?!
>
> >> The FAA doesn't put out a syllabus, the Part 141 school generates its own
> >> syllabus based on the FAA subject requirements.
>
> > Read for comprehension just for once. Can you do that?
>
> > "The F.A.R. Part 141 program offers professional training through an
> > FAA approved curriculum
> > Flight Schools can hold a F.A.R. Part 141 designation only if the
> > Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) approves the school and
> > training
> > syllabus."
>
> > ---> "approves the...training syllabus."
> > * * *"approves the...training syllabus."
> > * * *"approves the...training syllabus."
>
> In my dictionary the word "approves" does not mean "write".

In this context...approves is the same as... dictates,
therefore, for all intents and purposes it can be nothing
other than an FAA syllabus.

> Your claim was that the FAA somehow generates a syllabus. It doesn't, it
> only reviews and approves the school generated sysllabus.

See above.

> >> What you quoted only applies to Part 141 schools and does not apply
> >> to the local FBO with flight training

Why are you changing the topic to FBOs? WHY?
Please answer why, when the topic is about General
Avation, not FBOs. You've forgotten what you're arguing
about again. As a percentage FBOs are usually part 61
schools, or in remote areas, just a freelance CFI.


> > Except...let's see, WHEN THE FBO IS A 141 SCHOOL? I've
> > been to several. It's very common in GA. Ergo, my original
> > point.
>
> Which just shows how limited your knowledge of aviation really is.

No you've forgotten that I was originally telling you about
MY EXPERIENCE in general aviation. 141 schools aren't
that common at FBO's, but I WENT TO ONE. And I have
been to others. General Aviation also includes a four year
degree in aeronautics, but I never said that all FBOs are
a 4 year program either.

> Most people with a commercial or lower certificate did not go to a
Part 141
> school to get it.

Now you've changed the subject to include commercial too,
and really, those candidates ARE more likely to have gone
on to a 141 school at some point in their advancement.

> You are attempting to generalize from a special case in addition to not
> understanding that the word "approve" does not mean "generate", "provide",
> "supply", "create", or "write".

See above. You create your own 141 syllabus and it doesn't
jive up, you start over. That's why they will actually tell you
what to write if you're unable. It's an FAA syallbus no matter
how you slice it. Otherwise, it would be described by another
over-riding methodology of aeronautical instruction.

> So how is the new job you claimed to have that would keep you too busy to
> post to USENET going?

Well, thanks for asking! Turns out I've been able to delegate
enough dirty work so that I can occasionally post. I did
mention that I've broken the "dollar a watt" barrier didn't I?
Much of my time is in research and writing proprietary data,
so...I'm actually at the computer more than I used to be.

Also... I owe you an apology. There is no way you are Ari
the idiot troll. Yes, you can be obtuse, but at least you've
got the balls to provided a literate counterpoint. He on the
other hand, is a sockpuppet coward unable to form adult
sentences, and by all indication lacks any knowledge about
the groups he trolls. Big difference there.

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[Mark]

On Oct 12, 3:44*pm, george > wrote:
> On Oct 13, 7:05*am, wrote:
>
> > So how is the new job you claimed to have that would keep you too busy to
> > post to USENET going?
>
> Evidently not that well.
> I feel that he got the DCM *(Don't Come Monday)..
> Pretty smart that employer

There was no employer. I accepted a partnership
in an established solar corporation. My ownership
is 51%, as well as sales percentages. Seems to
be easier than I expected in some ways, but there
have been unexpected obstacles as well. That is
what I do. Overcome the snags.(jif possible)

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[Mark]

On Oct 12, 4:01*pm, Mark > wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:05:45 -0000, wrote:
> > So how is the new job you claimed to have that would keep you too busy to
> > post to USENET going?
>
> It's hot as **** on the roof and solar panels have sharp edges,
> Pinhead. My compass which only finds the SW works great though.
>
> Mark The Inventor Of The SW Only CompASS

How childish a post. It screams out..."I'm ari, the
sockpuppet retard that cannot win a debate on
facts, because...well, I'm ari the sockpuppet retard".

No, I won't write LOL here though, cause I'm man
enough to realize that you're miserable and poor.

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Mark > wrote:
> On Oct 12, 2:05Â*pm, wrote:

>> In my dictionary the word "approves" does not mean "write".
>
> In this context...approves is the same as... dictates,
> therefore, for all intents and purposes it can be nothing
> other than an FAA syllabus.

Babbling nonsense.

Evidently you also don't understand what the word "syllabus" means.

The FAA regulations specify WHAT is to be taught and the school written
syllabus specifies HOW it is to be taught to adhere to FAA regulations.

<snip remaining drivel>


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[Orval Fairbairn[_2_]]

In article
>,
Mark > wrote:

> On Oct 12, 3:44*pm, george > wrote:
> > On Oct 13, 7:05*am, wrote:
> >
> > > So how is the new job you claimed to have that would keep you too busy to
> > > post to USENET going?
> >
> > Evidently not that well.
> > I feel that he got the DCM *(Don't Come Monday)..
> > Pretty smart that employer
>
> There was no employer. I accepted a partnership
> in an established solar corporation. My ownership
> is 51%, as well as sales percentages. Seems to
> be easier than I expected in some ways, but there
> have been unexpected obstacles as well. That is
> what I do. Overcome the snags.(jif possible)
>
> ---
> Mark

He sell and installs solar-powered clothes dryers!

[george]

On Oct 14, 3:41*pm, Orval Fairbairn
> He sell and installs solar-powered clothes dryers!

Under supervision

[Ari Silverstein]

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:14:11 -0700 (PDT), george wrote:

> On Oct 14, 3:41*pm, Orval Fairbairn
>> He sell and installs solar-powered clothes dryers!
>
> Under supervision

of a psychotherapist.
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[Ari Silverstein]

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 14:06:55 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:

> On Oct 12, 4:01*pm, Mark > wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:05:45 -0000, wrote:
>>> So how is the new job you claimed to have that would keep you too busy to
>>> post to USENET going?
>>
>> It's hot as **** on the roof and solar panels have sharp edges,
>> Pinhead. My compass which only finds the SW works great though.
>>
>> Mark The Inventor Of The SW Only CompASS
>
> How childish a post.

This is better.

http://gayincarolina.jottit.com/

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[Mark]

On Oct 13, 5:45*pm, wrote:
> Mark > wrote:
> > On Oct 12, 2:05*pm, wrote:
> >> In my dictionary the word "approves" does not mean "write".
>
> > In this context...approves is the same as... dictates,
> > therefore, for all intents and purposes it can be nothing
> > other than an FAA syllabus.
>
> Babbling nonsense.
>
> Evidently you also don't understand what the word "syllabus" means.
>
> The FAA regulations specify WHAT is to be taught and the school written
> syllabus specifies HOW it is to be taught to adhere to FAA regulations.

> --
> Jim Pennino

Evidently you don't know what "syllabus" means actually. IOW,
let's roll the tape and see why your arguement thus far has been
patently wrong, mute, and inappropriately offensive toward my
correct information posted here:

The FAA defines syllabus for the 141 school:

cc. Training Syllabus. A step-by-step
(building block) progression of learning with
provision for regular review and evaluation at
prescribed stages of learning. The syllabus
defines the unit of training, states by objective
what the student is expected to accomplish
during the unit of training, shows an organized
plan for instruction (building block-from the
simple to the complex), and dictates evaluation
process for either the unit or stages of learning.

http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC%20141-1A.pdf

The FAA further defines the allowable content of a 141 syllabus:

D. Training Course Syllabus Content. Each TCO must contain a training
syllabus that is a “building block” progression of learning with
provisions for regular review and evaluation at prescribed stages.
1) Encourage each applicant to develop training syllabuses in a
format similar to that used in the current edition of AC 141-1, Pilot
School Certification, appendix A.

Ok, see the above sentence??? THAT is specifically where the
141 school syllabuses become an FAA syllabus. You either
follow the program, or something bad happens.

2) The training syllabus must contain any prerequisites necessary
for enrollment in the course, such as minimum pilot certificates and
ratings, and the required class of medical certificate or statement of
no medical deficiency (required for glider or balloon courses only).
3) In addition, the training syllabus must contain any training,
pilot experience, or special knowledge required for enrollment in the
course.
4) The training syllabus must contain a description of each lesson,
including its objectives and standards, and the measurable unit of
student accomplishment or learning to be derived from the lesson or
course. The syllabus must include stages of training and the
completion standards for each stage. Course, stage, and lesson
objectives must be stated in relation to the performance expected of
the student.
5) Each course, stage, lesson objective, and completion standard
must meet the following general criteria:
a) Overall, objectives must describe what students are expected to
know or are able to do at the end of a particular course, stage, or
lesson. Objectives must be stated in terms of desired student learning
outcomes.
b) Course objectives must state in broad terms the knowledge and
skill goals to be reached by the student at the end of the course.
c) More limited stage objectives must state desired student goals
in specific areas of knowledge and skill.
d) Consistent with the objective of the stage and course, lesson
objectives must clearly specify the desired student outcomes for each
lesson.

Now, we have the FAA syllabus definition, the FAA
syllabus allowable content, and the FAA syllabus
format for the 141 school.

POINT PROVEN, because unless the 141 school goes
by these rigid methods, they will lose their entitlement.

Therefore, I was spot on when I told you that if you walk
into class and tell your CFI that you don't feel like following
the syllabus today, but just gimme the keys and let me go
do what I feel like...then you are flying "outside of the program",
and it's nothing more than a joyride, and furthermore, 90% of
them won't even give you the keys.

---
Mark

[[email protected]]

Mark > wrote:
> On Oct 13, 5:45Â*pm, wrote:
>> Mark > wrote:
>> > On Oct 12, 2:05Â*pm, wrote:
>> >> In my dictionary the word "approves" does not mean "write".
>>
>> > In this context...approves is the same as... dictates,
>> > therefore, for all intents and purposes it can be nothing
>> > other than an FAA syllabus.
>>
>> Babbling nonsense.
>>
>> Evidently you also don't understand what the word "syllabus" means.
>>
>> The FAA regulations specify WHAT is to be taught and the school written
>> syllabus specifies HOW it is to be taught to adhere to FAA regulations.
>
>> --
>> Jim Pennino
>
> Evidently you don't know what "syllabus" means actually. IOW,
> let's roll the tape and see why your arguement thus far has been
> patently wrong, mute, and inappropriately offensive toward my
> correct information posted here:
>
> The FAA defines syllabus for the 141 school:
>
> cc. Training Syllabus. A step-by-step
> (building block) progression of learning with
> provision for regular review and evaluation at
> prescribed stages of learning. The syllabus
> defines the unit of training, states by objective
> what the student is expected to accomplish
> during the unit of training, shows an organized
> plan for instruction (building block-from the
> simple to the complex), and dictates evaluation
> process for either the unit or stages of learning.

Yes, this means the syllabus specifies HOW the training is to be taught,
exactly like I said.

Is English your second language?

<snip drivel>

--
Jim Pennino

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[george]

On Oct 14, 7:00*pm, Ari Silverstein > wrote:

> This is better.
>
> http://gayincarolina.jottit.com/
>
In my dictionary a mark is some-one who is naturally gullible...
The above link reinforces that

[Mark]

On Oct 14, 12:31*pm, wrote:
> Mark > wrote:
> > On Oct 13, 5:45*pm, wrote:
> >> Mark > wrote:
> >> > On Oct 12, 2:05*pm, wrote:
> >> >> In my dictionary the word "approves" does not mean "write".
>
> >> > In this context...approves is the same as... dictates,
> >> > therefore, for all intents and purposes it can be nothing
> >> > other than an FAA syllabus.
>
> >> Babbling nonsense.
>
> >> Evidently you also don't understand what the word "syllabus" means.
>
> >> The FAA regulations specify WHAT is to be taught and the school written
> >> syllabus specifies HOW it is to be taught to adhere to FAA regulations..
>
> >> --
> >> Jim Pennino
>
> > Evidently you don't know what "syllabus" means actually. IOW,
> > let's roll the tape and see why your arguement thus far has been
> > patently wrong, mute, and inappropriately offensive toward my
> > correct information posted here:
>
> > The FAA defines syllabus for the 141 school:
>
> > cc. Training Syllabus. A step-by-step
> > (building block) progression of learning with
> > provision for regular review and evaluation at
> > prescribed stages of learning. The syllabus
> > defines the unit of training, states by objective
> > what the student is expected to accomplish
> > during the unit of training, shows an organized
> > plan for instruction (building block-from the
> > simple to the complex), and dictates evaluation
> > process for either the unit or stages of learning.
>
> Yes, this means the syllabus specifies HOW the training is to be taught,
> exactly like I said.
>
> Is English your second language?
>
> <snip drivel>
>
> --
> Jim Pennino

Looks like you want another spanking. Ok then.

Where did you begin this "arguement" and what
do you think you're trying to prove? Let me
refresh your memory. I stated that the 141 school
goes by an FAA syllabus. You claimed they don't.

Now you're admitting that WHO tells these schools
how to format their syllabus??? WHO??

Uh, yeah...the FAA. That's who.

What is the content of the syllabus?

It's aeronautical knowledge as coordinated
with actual flight time, presented as the FAA
specifies.

Who decides in the United States what rules
and flying methods will be accepted and
satisfactory to obtain an American pilot's
certificate?

The FAA.

What type of syllabus does the part 141
school go by?

An FAA syllabus, both in content and
methodology, as derived from FAA fars,
and any books which proliferate information
which the FAA approves and will include
in your final oral and written FAA exams.

Yes, the FAA also tells you how to teach
if you're a 141 school.

---
Mark

[[email protected]]

Mark > wrote:

> Looks like you want another spanking. Ok then.

What is your facination with men's butts?

> Where did you begin this "arguement" and what
> do you think you're trying to prove? Let me
> refresh your memory. I stated that the 141 school
> goes by an FAA syllabus. You claimed they don't.

Lying sack of ****.

What started this is you claimed that a CFI must follow a FAA supplied
syllabus.

I said then and I say now this is babbling nonsense starting with the
fact that the FAA does not supply syllabi followed by the fact that
only CFI's working in a Part 141 school have to follow a FAA approved
syllabus.

You can't understand what you yourself wrote, much less the writting of
anyone else, including the FAA stuff you keep quoting and failing to
understand.


--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

[Mark]

On Oct 16, 6:45*pm, wrote:
> Mark > wrote:
> > Looks like you want another spanking. Ok then.
>
> What is your facination with men's butts?
>
> > Where did you begin this "arguement" and what
> > do you think you're trying to prove? *Let me
> > refresh your memory. I stated that the 141 school
> > goes by an FAA syllabus. You claimed they don't.
>
> Lying sack of ****.
>
> What started this is you claimed that a CFI must follow a FAA supplied
> syllabus.
>
> I said then and I say now this is babbling nonsense starting with the
> fact that the FAA does not supply syllabi followed by the fact that
> only CFI's working in a Part 141 school have to follow a FAA approved
> syllabus.
>
> You can't understand what you yourself wrote, much less the writting of
> anyone else, including the FAA stuff you keep quoting and failing to
> understand.
>
> --
> Jim Pennino
>
> Remove .spam.sux to reply.

Whatever.

I attended a 141 school. I know how things actually
work there. End of story.

[[email protected]]

Mark > wrote:
> On Oct 16, 6:45Â*pm, wrote:
>> Mark > wrote:
>> > Looks like you want another spanking. Ok then.
>>
>> What is your facination with men's butts?
>>
>> > Where did you begin this "arguement" and what
>> > do you think you're trying to prove? Â*Let me
>> > refresh your memory. I stated that the 141 school
>> > goes by an FAA syllabus. You claimed they don't.
>>
>> Lying sack of ****.
>>
>> What started this is you claimed that a CFI must follow a FAA supplied
>> syllabus.
>>
>> I said then and I say now this is babbling nonsense starting with the
>> fact that the FAA does not supply syllabi followed by the fact that
>> only CFI's working in a Part 141 school have to follow a FAA approved
>> syllabus.
>>
>> You can't understand what you yourself wrote, much less the writting of
>> anyone else, including the FAA stuff you keep quoting and failing to
>> understand.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Pennino
>>
>> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>
> Whatever.
>
> I attended a 141 school. I know how things actually
> work there. End of story.

In other words, you made grand, sweeping generalizations based on a narrow
point of view.


--
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[Ari Silverstein]

On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 13:05:24 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:

> On Oct 16, 6:45*pm, wrote:
>> Mark > wrote:
>>> Looks like you want another spanking. Ok then.
>>
>> What is your facination with men's butts?
>>
>>> Where did you begin this "arguement" and what
>>> do you think you're trying to prove? *Let me
>>> refresh your memory. I stated that the 141 school
>>> goes by an FAA syllabus. You claimed they don't.
>>
>> Lying sack of ****.
>>
>> What started this is you claimed that a CFI must follow a FAA supplied
>> syllabus.
>>
>> I said then and I say now this is babbling nonsense starting with the
>> fact that the FAA does not supply syllabi followed by the fact that
>> only CFI's working in a Part 141 school have to follow a FAA approved
>> syllabus.
>>
>> You can't understand what you yourself wrote, much less the writting of
>> anyone else, including the FAA stuff you keep quoting and failing to
>> understand.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Pennino
>>
>> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>
> Whatever.
>
> I attended a 141 school. I know how things actually
> work there. End of story.

Looking in the window is not *attending*, AssClown, lol
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[hierophant[_2_]]

On Sun, 17 June 2010 13:05:24 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:

> I attended a 141 school.

Mark, that post was over nine months ago. You can't pass a medical and
all you need is a measly 20 hours to get your SPL, what's the rub,
Bub? ;0)

[Virgil Cane]

On Apr 23, 10:05*am, hierophant > wrote:
> On Sun, 17 June 2010 13:05:24 -0700 (PDT), Mark wrote:
> > I attended a 141 school.
>
> Mark, that post was over nine months ago. You can't pass a medical and
> all you need is a measly 20 hours to get your SPL, what's the rub,
> Bub? ;0)

Call me at home and we'll discuss it.
770-426-0203

[hierophant[_2_]]

On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:40:44 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV trolling as Virgil
Cane wrote:

> NNTP-Posting-Host: 98.71.164.181

> 770-426-0203

Mark, why would I call an Atlanta SMSA area code when you are posting
from NW South Carolina? :(

Am I missing something? ;0) Wouldn't 864-567-(naw I wouldn't do that
to you, Mark!)

[Virgil Cane]

On Apr 23, 11:52*am, hierophant > wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:40:44 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV trolling as Virgil
>
> Cane wrote:
> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 98.71.164.181
> > 770-426-0203
>
> Mark, why would I call an Atlanta SMSA area code when you are posting
> from NW South Carolina? :(
>
> Am I missing something? ;0) Wouldn't 864-567-(naw I wouldn't do that
> to you, Mark!)

I route my posting through an out of state
anonymous server. But please, let's
have that phone number.

Ok, go---->

---
Mark IV

[CupCaked]

On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 09:51:49 -0700 (PDT), Virgil Cane wrote:

> On Apr 23, 11:52*am, hierophant > wrote:
>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:40:44 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV trolling as Virgil
>>
>> Cane wrote:
>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 98.71.164.181
>>> 770-426-0203
>>
>> Mark, why would I call an Atlanta SMSA area code when you are posting
>> from NW South Carolina? :(
>>
>> Am I missing something? ;0) Wouldn't 864-567-(naw I wouldn't do that
>> to you, Mark!)
>
> I route my posting through an out of state
> anonymous server.

You have little knowledge of TCP/IP. adsl-177-95-51.gsp.bellsouth.net
is not an "out of state" nor an "anonymous server".

That IP Host resolves approximately to:

Continent Lat/Lon: 46.07305 / -100.546
Country Lat/Lon: 38 / -98
City Lat/Lon: (34.6774) / (-82.928)

Please, you look like an idiot when you post such ludicrousness.

[Mark IV]

On Apr 23, 2:48*pm, CupCaked > wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 09:51:49 -0700 (PDT), Virgil Cane wrote:
> > On Apr 23, 11:52*am, hierophant > wrote:
> >> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:40:44 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV trolling as Virgil
>
> >> Cane wrote:
> >>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 98.71.164.181
> >>> 770-426-0203
>
> >> Mark, why would I call an Atlanta SMSA area code when you are posting
> >> from NW South Carolina? :(
>
> >> Am I missing something? ;0) Wouldn't 864-567-(naw I wouldn't do that
> >> to you, Mark!)
>
> > I route my posting through an out of state
> > anonymous server.
>
> You have little knowledge of TCP/IP. adsl-177-95-51.gsp.bellsouth.net
> is not an "out of state" nor an "anonymous server".
>
> That IP Host resolves approximately to:
>
> Continent Lat/Lon: * * *46.07305 / -100.546
> Country Lat/Lon: * * * *38 / -98
> City Lat/Lon: * * * * * (34.6774) / (-82.928)
>
> Please, you look like an idiot when you post such ludicrousness.

No, you're the idiot. No wonder you're unemployable.

It's called a Slingbox.

But then, you're such a ****tard, you call little
old ladies and kill them, without even knowing how
to hide your caller I.D., so why would we think you'd
know about something as simple as a slingbox.

---
Mark IV

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