Re: Portable oxygen system suggestions...

[hnelson]

"Peter" > wrote in message
...
>
> It is for ocassional flights only e.g. 1x or 2x a year at 15000 ft,
> for 1-2 hrs, and 1 or 2 people but expandable to 4. In Europe.
>
> I have looked at the Aerox one with their oxymiser canulas, but wonder
> if a proper mask isn't a better way to go, and it should use less
> oxygen. The problem is the mike and the wiring - trivial enough but a
> hassle since I am not legally allowed to do it myself and doing it
> properly involves fitting a 2nd mike connector somewhere, in parallel
> with my aircraft-powered Bose headset... But some masks have a hole in
> the side and you just poke the existing mike through there,
> apparently.. also there are cheap masks for about $10 and silicone
> ones for $200+ (w/o a mike).
>
> I have the Aircraft Spruce catalogue for reference also; they sell the
> Aerox and some apparently very similar systems.
>
> Any suggestions, or what to avoid, would be appreciated.
>

I would suggest portable system with oxymiser cannulas. Get a finger pulse
oximeter (they are cheap now) and check out how the system works at 15,000.

Howard

[Julian Scarfe]

"Peter" > wrote in message
...
>
> It is for ocassional flights only e.g. 1x or 2x a year at 15000 ft,
> for 1-2 hrs, and 1 or 2 people but expandable to 4. In Europe.
>
> I have looked at the Aerox one with their oxymiser canulas, but wonder
> if a proper mask isn't a better way to go, and it should use less
> oxygen.

We have an Aerox system with cannulas and find it good. According to Aerox,
the system uses less oxygen than a mask would. We also have a Nonin Onyx
pulse oximeter, which is an essential accessory.

http://www.avweb.com/news/aeromed/181936-1.html

You're welcome to take a look at them if we get together at Cambridge some
time.

One of the things I hadn't anticipated was how much better I'd feel on
oxygen after longish flights even around FL100.

Julian Scarfe

[Snowbird]

"Julian Scarfe" > wrote in message >...

> We have an Aerox system with cannulas and find it good. According to Aerox,
> the system uses less oxygen than a mask would.

Concur, although the system we have is Mountain High (same oxymiser cannulae
though). They work very well and live up to their name. IIRC the
system itself has a recommendation about how high they can be used
vs. the mask, and there's an article about this on AvWeb somewhere.
Might be worth a hunt.

We don't have the pulse oxymeter but have had no problems at 14K (15K
above our service ceiling). I'm kind of a "canary in a coal mine",
if there are problems I'll find them.

> One of the things I hadn't anticipated was how much better I'd feel on
> oxygen after longish flights even around FL100.

Concur again, but even lower in our experience -- 7-8K (Gotta admit
Julian FL100 looks funny to this Yank)

Cheers,
Sydney

[Julian Scarfe]

"Snowbird" > wrote in message
m...

> We don't have the pulse oxymeter but have had no problems at 14K (15K
> above our service ceiling). I'm kind of a "canary in a coal mine",
> if there are problems I'll find them.

Susceptibility tends to vary greatly. I was pretty shocked the first time I
put the PO on at altitude. I'd never bothered to even take my pulse at
altitude before! Other people don't seem to have anything like the same
SpO2 drop.

> Concur again, but even lower in our experience -- 7-8K (Gotta admit
> Julian FL100 looks funny to this Yank)

Yeah, I kind of like writing that sort of stuff just to see what sort of
reaction I get. You should try FL30. :-)

Julian

[Eastward Bound]

"hnelson" > wrote in message >...
> "Peter" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > It is for ocassional flights only e.g. 1x or 2x a year at 15000 ft,
> > for 1-2 hrs, and 1 or 2 people but expandable to 4. In Europe.
> >
> > I have looked at the Aerox one with their oxymiser canulas, but wonder
> > if a proper mask isn't a better way to go, and it should use less
> > oxygen. The problem is the mike and the wiring - trivial enough but a
> > hassle since I am not legally allowed to do it myself and doing it
> > properly involves fitting a 2nd mike connector somewhere, in parallel
> > with my aircraft-powered Bose headset... But some masks have a hole in
> > the side and you just poke the existing mike through there,
> > apparently.. also there are cheap masks for about $10 and silicone
> > ones for $200+ (w/o a mike).
> >
> > I have the Aircraft Spruce catalogue for reference also; they sell the
> > Aerox and some apparently very similar systems.
> >
> > Any suggestions, or what to avoid, would be appreciated.
> >
>
> I would suggest portable system with oxymiser cannulas. Get a finger pulse
> oximeter (they are cheap now) and check out how the system works at 15,000.
>
> Howard



This is the ultimate example of pussyfication!

Your the type of dispicable character who asks his/her doctor for
"sugar pills" to make them feel normal!

Get on board the plane, sit down, buckle up, shut up!

"Oh but help me doctor, i'm weak doctor, I'm incapable. I also need
food stamps and I need a volunteer to deliver that food to my house
and to also put them away in the cupboards for me..." PUSSY!

[Jim Weir]

Had a double helping of bitch flakes for breakfast this morning, did we?

Jim


(Eastward Bound)
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:


->
->Your the type of dispicable character who asks his/her doctor for
->"sugar pills" to make them feel normal!


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Thomas Borchert]

Eastward,

get out of here.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Thomas Borchert]

Peter,

cannulas are a much more comfortable solution in that altitude. You
should get an oxymeter to check your blood oxygen content, too. Are you
familiar with www.aeromedix.com?

Also, don't know about rules in Europe, but in the US it is perfectly
legal to fill the bottles yourself from welder'S oxygen bottles. It is
the same oxygen anyway. Check for some columns at www.avweb.com on that
topic.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Thomas Borchert]

Peter,

> This Palco one looks a lot nicer
>

beauty certainly is in the eye of the beholder in that case...

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[gross_arrow]

(Snowbird) wrote in message >...
..
>
> We don't have the pulse oxymeter but have had no problems at 14K (15K
> above our service ceiling).
>
> Cheers,
> Sydney

your service ceiling is a negative 1k?

(sorry, couldn't resist)

g_a