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Roy Smith
August 27th 04, 08:38 PM
There's an AP report in the NY Times about Air Force 2 getting a TCAS RA
recently:

http://nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Cheney-Plane.html

In summary:

"A military plane carrying Vice President Dick Cheney came within almost
half a mile of a small private plane over Bridgeport, Conn., this month,
forcing the pilot to take evasive action
[...]
The plane, which is Air Force II when the vice president is aboard, was
flying at about 7,500 feet Aug. 7 while en route to Westchester County
Airport in White Plains, N.Y., when an on-board alert system alarmed,
telling the pilot to climb to avoid colliding with the other plane.
[...]
FAA spokeswoman Arlene Salac said that both planes were operating under
visual flight rules"

Is it really possible that Air Force 2 was operating under VFR? I find
it hard to believe they wouldn't be IFR all the time.

William W. Plummer
August 27th 04, 09:27 PM
Roy Smith wrote:
> There's an AP report in the NY Times about Air Force 2 getting a TCAS RA
> recently:
>
> http://nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Cheney-Plane.html
>
> In summary:
>
> "A military plane carrying Vice President Dick Cheney came within almost
> half a mile of a small private plane over Bridgeport, Conn., this month,
> forcing the pilot to take evasive action
> [...]
> The plane, which is Air Force II when the vice president is aboard, was
> flying at about 7,500 feet Aug. 7 while en route to Westchester County
> Airport in White Plains, N.Y., when an on-board alert system alarmed,
> telling the pilot to climb to avoid colliding with the other plane.
> [...]
> FAA spokeswoman Arlene Salac said that both planes were operating under
> visual flight rules"
>
> Is it really possible that Air Force 2 was operating under VFR? I find
> it hard to believe they wouldn't be IFR all the time.
Reading that article requires that you give up personal information to
the NY Times, probably accept a tracking cooking, and put up with
endless advertising.

QDurham
August 27th 04, 09:55 PM
>Reading that article requires that you give up personal information to the NY
Times, probably accept a tracking cooking, and put up with endless
advertising.>

English, please.

Quent

Roy Smith
August 27th 04, 10:42 PM
In article <JOMXc.101265$TI1.13664@attbi_s52>,
"William W. Plummer" > wrote:

> Reading that article requires that you give up personal information to
> the NY Times, probably accept a tracking cooking, and put up with
> endless advertising.

You can make up the personal information if you don't want to divulge
your true identify. Yes, they do use cookies, and yes, you get
advertising. But, you know what, you get advertising when you buy the
dead-tree version on the newsstand, and there's no charge to read
exactly the same material on the web. Seems like a good deal to me.

In any case, I quoted the really relevant parts (and as much as I
thought would be within the bounds of "fair use" for copyrighted
material).

Bob Noel
August 27th 04, 11:17 PM
In article >,
(QDurham) wrote:

> >Reading that article requires that you give up personal information to
> >the NY
> Times, probably accept a tracking cooking, and put up with endless
> advertising.>
>
> English, please.

cookie not cooking. You understand browser cookies used for tracking
information, yes?

--
Bob Noel
Seen on Kerry's campaign airplane: "the real deal"
oh yeah baby.

Peter R.
August 30th 04, 01:54 PM
William W. Plummer wrote:

> Reading that article requires that you give up personal information to
> the NY Times, probably accept a tracking cooking, and put up with
> endless advertising.

Use someone else's ID and password:

http://www.bugmenot.com


--
Peter

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