Any alternative to Europa XS?

[Shin Gou]

I am looking for a design with: 100-120hp engine, 600lbs plus useful
load AND the baggage room for the load capacity, 130miles plus
cruising speed. The useful load should be the real one already in use,
not on paper.

Seems Europa XS meets these requirement and can be much faster, though
the useful load could be less based on most completed ones' empty
weight(about 100lbs heaiver than the company's data). Murphy Rebel
seems another option with even more useful load but it's way too slow.

Does anyone have any other such designs in mind? Thank you.

Sheen

[Rich S.]

"Shin Gou" > wrote in message
om...
> I am looking for a design with: 100-120hp engine, 600lbs plus useful
> load AND the baggage room for the load capacity, 130miles plus
> cruising speed. The useful load should be the real one already in use,
> not on paper.
snip>
> Does anyone have any other such designs in mind? Thank you.

CP-328 Super Emeraude

115 hp
Empty ~900 lbs.
Gross 1545 lbs.
Vne 172
100% cruise @ 5000' = 143 mph
65% cruise @ 5000' = 127 mph
Gross R/C = 820 fpm @ 78 mph
Range 620 sm

There's one advertised on www.barnstormers.com for $13,500 US

Rich S.

[Drew Dalgleish]

On 2 Dec 2003 09:14:33 -0800, (Shin Gou) wrote:

>I am looking for a design with: 100-120hp engine, 600lbs plus useful
>load AND the baggage room for the load capacity, 130miles plus
>cruising speed. The useful load should be the real one already in use,
>not on paper.
>
>Seems Europa XS meets these requirement and can be much faster, though
>the useful load could be less based on most completed ones' empty
>weight(about 100lbs heaiver than the company's data). Murphy Rebel
>seems another option with even more useful load but it's way too slow.
>
>Does anyone have any other such designs in mind? Thank you.
>
>Sheen
A cleaned up 150hp. rebel will easily cruise that fast and has over
700 lb. useful load. The Murphy elite is even faster.
Drew Dalgleish
Murphy Rebel C-FYHO
125hp. 110mph cruise on wheels without the fancy wing tips or wheel
pants or the spring gear etc...

[ET]

(Drew Dalgleish) wrote in
:

> On 2 Dec 2003 09:14:33 -0800, (Shin Gou) wrote:
>
>>I am looking for a design with: 100-120hp engine, 600lbs plus useful
>>load AND the baggage room for the load capacity, 130miles plus
>>cruising speed. The useful load should be the real one already in use,
>>not on paper.
>>
>>Seems Europa XS meets these requirement and can be much faster, though
>>the useful load could be less based on most completed ones' empty
>>weight(about 100lbs heaiver than the company's data). Murphy Rebel
>>seems another option with even more useful load but it's way too slow.
>>
>>Does anyone have any other such designs in mind? Thank you.
>>
>>Sheen
> A cleaned up 150hp. rebel will easily cruise that fast and has over
> 700 lb. useful load. The Murphy elite is even faster.
> Drew Dalgleish
> Murphy Rebel C-FYHO
> 125hp. 110mph cruise on wheels without the fancy wing tips or wheel
> pants or the spring gear etc...
>

This seams to meet your specs. I have no experience with it though:

http://www.usjabiru.com/J250%20Hauler.htm



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[Del Rawlins]

On 02 Dec 2003 08:14 AM, Shin Gou posted the following:
> I am looking for a design with: 100-120hp engine, 600lbs plus useful
> load AND the baggage room for the load capacity, 130miles plus
> cruising speed. The useful load should be the real one already in use,
> not on paper.
>
> Seems Europa XS meets these requirement and can be much faster, though
> the useful load could be less based on most completed ones' empty
> weight(about 100lbs heaiver than the company's data). Murphy Rebel
> seems another option with even more useful load but it's way too slow.
>
> Does anyone have any other such designs in mind? Thank you.

The Bearhawk Patrol (Bob Barrows' new 2 seat design). You may need a
bigger engine to get the speed, but I don't know.

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[John Oliveira]

RV 9A with 0235, Cruise at 145, top speed 170


"Shin Gou" > wrote in message
om...
> I am looking for a design with: 100-120hp engine, 600lbs plus useful
> load AND the baggage room for the load capacity, 130miles plus
> cruising speed. The useful load should be the real one already in use,
> not on paper.
>
> Seems Europa XS meets these requirement and can be much faster, though
> the useful load could be less based on most completed ones' empty
> weight(about 100lbs heaiver than the company's data). Murphy Rebel
> seems another option with even more useful load but it's way too slow.
>
> Does anyone have any other such designs in mind? Thank you.
>
> Sheen

[Charlie]

Check out the Wittman Buttercup.

"Shin Gou" > wrote in message
om...
> I am looking for a design with: 100-120hp engine, 600lbs plus useful
> load AND the baggage room for the load capacity, 130miles plus
> cruising speed. The useful load should be the real one already in use,
> not on paper.
>
> Seems Europa XS meets these requirement and can be much faster, though
> the useful load could be less based on most completed ones' empty
> weight(about 100lbs heaiver than the company's data). Murphy Rebel
> seems another option with even more useful load but it's way too slow.
>
> Does anyone have any other such designs in mind? Thank you.
>
> Sheen

[Ian Donaldson]

G'day Sheen


The Jabiru made in Australia would fit exactly what you need.

Check out their site or contact me for info.

Regards

Ian Donaldson



"Charlie" > wrote in message
...
Check out the Wittman Buttercup.

"Shin Gou" > wrote in message
om...
> I am looking for a design with: 100-120hp engine, 600lbs plus useful
> load AND the baggage room for the load capacity, 130miles plus
> cruising speed. The useful load should be the real one already in use,
> not on paper.
>
> Seems Europa XS meets these requirement and can be much faster, though
> the useful load could be less based on most completed ones' empty
> weight(about 100lbs heaiver than the company's data). Murphy Rebel
> seems another option with even more useful load but it's way too slow.
>
> Does anyone have any other such designs in mind? Thank you.
>
> Sheen