which VW engine coversion seems most reliable?

[rich[_2_]]

Looking at the various conversions, such as Limbach, Hapi, Revmaster,
Great Plains, and I'm sure there are some others, I'm wondering if one
or the other has a reputation of being the best for reliablity?
The Rotax seems based on the VW, although the company denies that,
just looking at some of their models, the resemblence is too much not
to be somewhat a derivative of the VW. Looking around on the web, the
Revmaster seems to be the only one with a stand alone engine for sale,
Great Plains seems to sell the parts to make the conversion, and
Limbach and Hapi I can't find any parts for them for sale. If they are
even in business any longer.
Rich

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:40:07 -0400, rich >
wrote:

>Looking at the various conversions, such as Limbach, Hapi, Revmaster,
>Great Plains, and I'm sure there are some others, I'm wondering if one
>or the other has a reputation of being the best for reliablity?
>The Rotax seems based on the VW, although the company denies that,
>just looking at some of their models, the resemblence is too much not
>to be somewhat a derivative of the VW. Looking around on the web, the
>Revmaster seems to be the only one with a stand alone engine for sale,
>Great Plains seems to sell the parts to make the conversion, and
>Limbach and Hapi I can't find any parts for them for sale. If they are
>even in business any longer.
>Rich
The Rotax is no more based on the VW than on the BMW twin or the
Lycoming/continental aircraft engines. Or for that matter, on the
Corvair.

[CaveLamb]

rich wrote:
> Looking at the various conversions, such as Limbach, Hapi, Revmaster,
> Great Plains, and I'm sure there are some others, I'm wondering if one
> or the other has a reputation of being the best for reliablity?
> The Rotax seems based on the VW, although the company denies that,
> just looking at some of their models, the resemblence is too much not
> to be somewhat a derivative of the VW. Looking around on the web, the
> Revmaster seems to be the only one with a stand alone engine for sale,
> Great Plains seems to sell the parts to make the conversion, and
> Limbach and Hapi I can't find any parts for them for sale. If they are
> even in business any longer.
> Rich


THe one rated at 40 horsepower or less...

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[Michael Dungrave]

rich wrote:
> Looking at the various conversions, such as Limbach, Hapi, Revmaster,
> Great Plains, and I'm sure there are some others, I'm wondering if one
> or the other has a reputation of being the best for reliablity?
> The Rotax seems based on the VW, although the company denies that,
> just looking at some of their models, the resemblence is too much not
> to be somewhat a derivative of the VW. Looking around on the web, the
> Revmaster seems to be the only one with a stand alone engine for sale,
> Great Plains seems to sell the parts to make the conversion, and
> Limbach and Hapi I can't find any parts for them for sale. If they are
> even in business any longer.
> Rich

Limbach is the one with highest reputation and the most expensive
next to them probably Sauer
http://www.sauer-flugmotorenbau.de/Viertakt_FourStroke.html
about 40 jrs in business, had my Revmaster for overhaul there

both companies are located in Germany. Both also sell certified VW-based
engines, mostly used in motorgliders

my 2c
-Loef (building a Sonex with Revmaster/Sauer up front)

[rich[_2_]]

Well, there are so many different Rotax engines, it depends on which
one. 2 cycle, 4 cycle, etc.. But their flat 4, four cycle engine has
some very suspicious similarities to the VW. The cylinders look very
much alike, and the Rotax is the only other engine besides the VW that
has the exhaust exiting the front of the cylinder on the forward end
of the engine. All others have the exhaust exiting vertically, either
up or down. There seems to be some obvious Rotax designs that are
from the VW. No doubt improved, to get aircraft reliabliity. I looked
the thing over at Reno at their display, and it looked very VW. The
gearbox is of course their own design. In short, a geared VW engine
is all it is.

On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 22:16:42 -0400, wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:40:07 -0400, rich >
>wrote:
>
>>Looking at the various conversions, such as Limbach, Hapi, Revmaster,
>>Great Plains, and I'm sure there are some others, I'm wondering if one
>>or the other has a reputation of being the best for reliablity?
>>The Rotax seems based on the VW, although the company denies that,
>>just looking at some of their models, the resemblence is too much not
>>to be somewhat a derivative of the VW. Looking around on the web, the
>>Revmaster seems to be the only one with a stand alone engine for sale,
>>Great Plains seems to sell the parts to make the conversion, and
>>Limbach and Hapi I can't find any parts for them for sale. If they are
>>even in business any longer.
>>Rich
> The Rotax is no more based on the VW than on the BMW twin or the
>Lycoming/continental aircraft engines. Or for that matter, on the
>Corvair.

[jan olieslagers[_2_]]

Op 27/10/2010 15:13, rich schreef:
> In short, a geared VW engine
> is all it is.
>

Keen oberservers have reported traces of a liquid cooling circuit, too.

[Atheist Chaplain[_2_]]

"jan olieslagers" > wrote in message
...
> Op 27/10/2010 15:13, rich schreef:
>> In short, a geared VW engine
>> is all it is.
>>
>
> Keen oberservers have reported traces of a liquid cooling circuit, too.

yep, them liquid cooled heads are very VW in
appearance........................um no, VW don't rely on water cooling,
forget I spoke, ........but that cylinder design with all the fins, that
very reminiscent of VW, oh and of Triumph, Honda Yamaha and hell even Victa
motor mowers use it, after all flat four horizontally opposed engines were
invented by VW........... Oh that's right it was invented by Karl Benz in
1896................

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[CaveLamb]

Atheist Chaplain wrote:
>
> "jan olieslagers" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Op 27/10/2010 15:13, rich schreef:
>>> In short, a geared VW engine
>>> is all it is.
>>>
>>
>> Keen oberservers have reported traces of a liquid cooling circuit, too.
>
> yep, them liquid cooled heads are very VW in
> appearance........................um no, VW don't rely on water cooling,
> forget I spoke, ........but that cylinder design with all the fins, that
> very reminiscent of VW, oh and of Triumph, Honda Yamaha and hell even
> Victa motor mowers use it, after all flat four horizontally opposed
> engines were invented by VW........... Oh that's right it was invented
> by Karl Benz in 1896................
>


And a model T Ford and a Lamborgine both have four wheels.

Somebody needs glasses!

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