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November 13th 10, 01:22 AM
Is this the SX 300 you flew in when you were back in IA ?

http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/events01/media/02_3ZX.txt



Ben
www.haaspowerair.com

Jay Honeck[_13_]
November 13th 10, 06:25 AM
On Nov 12, 7:22*pm, " > wrote:
> Is this the SX 300 you flew in when you were back in IA ?
>
> http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/e...
>
> Benwww.haaspowerair.com

Nope. One just like it, though.

Boy, these guys are taking a terrible hit these last couple of weeks.
Lost a Glassair III en route to a fly-in of air racers in Iowa City
last week, too.
--
Jay Honeck
Port Aransas, TX
Pathfinder N56993

Orval Fairbairn[_2_]
November 13th 10, 04:48 PM
In article
>,
Jay Honeck > wrote:

> On Nov 12, 7:22*pm, " > wrote:
> > Is this the SX 300 you flew in when you were back in IA ?
> >
> > http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/e...
> >
> > Benwww.haaspowerair.com
>
> Nope. One just like it, though.
>
> Boy, these guys are taking a terrible hit these last couple of weeks.
> Lost a Glassair III en route to a fly-in of air racers in Iowa City
> last week, too.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Port Aransas, TX
> Pathfinder N56993

The Glasair was a beloved couple from Spruce Creek. I looked at the
national weather last night -- all of Iowa was one big storm, with snow
& ice in part of it.

I don't think an SX-300 would carry very much ice before you got into
deep trouble -- likewise, a Glasair III.

November 13th 10, 08:33 PM
On Nov 13, 9:48*am, Orval Fairbairn >
wrote:
> In article
> >,
> *Jay Honeck > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 12, 7:22*pm, " > wrote:
> > > Is this the SX 300 you flew in when you were back in IA ?
>
> > >http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/e....
>
> > > Benwww.haaspowerair.com
>
> > Nope. * One just like it, though.
>
> > Boy, these guys are taking a terrible hit these last couple of weeks.
> > Lost a Glassair III en route to a fly-in of air racers in Iowa City
> > last week, too.
> > --
> > Jay Honeck
> > Port Aransas, TX
> > Pathfinder N56993
>
> The Glasair was a beloved couple from Spruce Creek. I looked at the
> national weather last night -- all of Iowa was one big storm, with snow
> & ice in part of it.
>
> I don't think an SX-300 would carry very much ice before you got into
> deep trouble -- likewise, a Glasair III.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Orval, I know all you guys down at Spruce Creek are close. Sorry for
your loss.

I agree the Glasair, SX 300 and all the other "slippery" planes have a
low tolerance for any kind of build up on the wing surface.

Ben
www.haaspowerair.com

Orval Fairbairn[_2_]
November 15th 10, 06:17 PM
In article
>,
" > wrote:

> On Nov 13, 9:48*am, Orval Fairbairn >
> wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> > *Jay Honeck > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Nov 12, 7:22*pm, " > wrote:
> > > > Is this the SX 300 you flew in when you were back in IA ?
> >
> > > >http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/e...
> >
> > > > Benwww.haaspowerair.com
> >
> > > Nope. * One just like it, though.
> >
> > > Boy, these guys are taking a terrible hit these last couple of weeks.
> > > Lost a Glassair III en route to a fly-in of air racers in Iowa City
> > > last week, too.
> > > --
> > > Jay Honeck
> > > Port Aransas, TX
> > > Pathfinder N56993
> >
> > The Glasair was a beloved couple from Spruce Creek. I looked at the
> > national weather last night -- all of Iowa was one big storm, with snow
> > & ice in part of it.
> >
> > I don't think an SX-300 would carry very much ice before you got into
> > deep trouble -- likewise, a Glasair III.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Orval, I know all you guys down at Spruce Creek are close. Sorry for
> your loss.
>
> I agree the Glasair, SX 300 and all the other "slippery" planes have a
> low tolerance for any kind of build up on the wing surface.
>
> Ben
> www.haaspowerair.com

Thanks, Ben.

Apparently, the bad wx moved in later in the day, so the accident was
Friday morning, in clear wx. The accident has the SX guys spooked, as
they don't know if it was an airframe failure, incapacitation or a bird
strike.

The rumor has it that he went straight in at about 300 kt.

Jay Honeck[_13_]
November 16th 10, 04:13 AM
On Nov 15, 12:17*pm, Orval Fairbairn >
wrote:
> In article
> >,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> " > wrote:
> > On Nov 13, 9:48 am, Orval Fairbairn >
> > wrote:
> > > In article
> > > >,
> > > Jay Honeck > wrote:
>
> > > > On Nov 12, 7:22 pm, " > wrote:
> > > > > Is this the SX 300 you flew in when you were back in IA ?
>
> > > > >http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/e...
>
> > > > > Benwww.haaspowerair.com
>
> > > > Nope. One just like it, though.
>
> > > > Boy, these guys are taking a terrible hit these last couple of weeks.
> > > > Lost a Glassair III en route to a fly-in of air racers in Iowa City
> > > > last week, too.
> > > > --
> > > > Jay Honeck
> > > > Port Aransas, TX
> > > > Pathfinder N56993
>
> > > The Glasair was a beloved couple from Spruce Creek. I looked at the
> > > national weather last night -- all of Iowa was one big storm, with snow
> > > & ice in part of it.
>
> > > I don't think an SX-300 would carry very much ice before you got into
> > > deep trouble -- likewise, a Glasair III.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Orval, I know all you guys down at Spruce Creek are close. Sorry for
> > your loss.
>
> > I agree the Glasair, SX 300 and all the other "slippery" planes have a
> > low tolerance for any kind of build up on the wing surface.
>
> > Ben
> >www.haaspowerair.com
>
> Thanks, Ben.
>
> Apparently, the bad wx moved in later in the day, so the accident was
> Friday morning, in clear wx. The accident has the SX guys spooked, as
> they don't know if it was an airframe failure, incapacitation or a bird
> strike.
>
> The rumor has it that he went straight in at about 300 kt.

Any word on what happened with the guy he was flying loose formation
with? Did he see anything?
--
Jay Honeck
Port Aransas, TX
Pathfinder N56993

Orval Fairbairn[_2_]
November 16th 10, 04:22 AM
In article
>,
Jay Honeck > wrote:

> On Nov 15, 12:17*pm, Orval Fairbairn >
> wrote:
> > In article
> > >,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > " > wrote:
> > > On Nov 13, 9:48 am, Orval Fairbairn >
> > > wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > >,
> > > > Jay Honeck > wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Nov 12, 7:22 pm, " > wrote:
> > > > > > Is this the SX 300 you flew in when you were back in IA ?
> >
> > > > > >http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/e
> > > > > >...
> >
> > > > > > Benwww.haaspowerair.com
> >
> > > > > Nope. One just like it, though.
> >
> > > > > Boy, these guys are taking a terrible hit these last couple of weeks.
> > > > > Lost a Glassair III en route to a fly-in of air racers in Iowa City
> > > > > last week, too.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jay Honeck
> > > > > Port Aransas, TX
> > > > > Pathfinder N56993
> >
> > > > The Glasair was a beloved couple from Spruce Creek. I looked at the
> > > > national weather last night -- all of Iowa was one big storm, with snow
> > > > & ice in part of it.
> >
> > > > I don't think an SX-300 would carry very much ice before you got into
> > > > deep trouble -- likewise, a Glasair III.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > Orval, I know all you guys down at Spruce Creek are close. Sorry for
> > > your loss.
> >
> > > I agree the Glasair, SX 300 and all the other "slippery" planes have a
> > > low tolerance for any kind of build up on the wing surface.
> >
> > > Ben
> > >www.haaspowerair.com
> >
> > Thanks, Ben.
> >
> > Apparently, the bad wx moved in later in the day, so the accident was
> > Friday morning, in clear wx. The accident has the SX guys spooked, as
> > they don't know if it was an airframe failure, incapacitation or a bird
> > strike.
> >
> > The rumor has it that he went straight in at about 300 kt.
>
> Any word on what happened with the guy he was flying loose formation
> with? Did he see anything?

I haven't heard.

Ari Silverstein
November 16th 10, 03:31 PM
On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 12:48:16 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

> The Glasair was a beloved couple from Spruce Creek. I looked at the
> national weather last night -- all of Iowa was one big storm, with snow
> & ice in part of it.

<http://www.news-journalonline.com/news/local/east-volusia/2010/11/07/aviator-community-mourns-loss.html>

or

http://preview.tinyurl.com/2ep9mwl

Shelbyville is Middle TN (not SE) as I have flown into there and
Lewisburg (Marshall County) many times. Coming over Alabama into TN is
the smallest slip of the NE corner of AL and this area is hilly and
mountainous.

R.I.P.

Dave Doe
November 18th 10, 07:49 AM
In article <1cae999c-6438-4ae0-95a7-
>, , benford2
@aol.com says...
>
> Is this the SX 300 you flew in when you were back in IA ?
>
> http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/events01/media/02_3ZX.txt
>
>
>
> Ben
> www.haaspowerair.com

Hey with all due respect mate - do yourself a favour. Either stop
promoting your site, or get the site done by a pro. That's horrible! :)

--
Duncan.

November 19th 10, 12:46 AM
On Nov 18, 12:49*am, Dave Doe > wrote:
> In article <1cae999c-6438-4ae0-95a7-
> >, , benford2
> @aol.com says...
>
>
>
> > Is this the SX 300 you flew in when you were back in IA ?
>
> >http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/e...
>
> > Ben
> >www.haaspowerair.com
>
> Hey with all due respect mate - do yourself a favour. *Either stop
> promoting your site, or get the site done by a pro. *That's horrible! :)
>
> --
> Duncan.

You might be right...... I spend all my money on the motor project. I
am somewhat successful though... You looked at it . <GG>

Dave Doe
November 19th 10, 03:26 AM
In article <6313b87b-0922-4277-b761-300c6afcde29
@d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, ,
says...
>
> On Nov 18, 12:49*am, Dave Doe > wrote:
> > In article <1cae999c-6438-4ae0-95a7-
> > >, , benford2
> > @aol.com says...
> >
> >
> >
> > > Is this the SX 300 you flew in when you were back in IA ?
> >
> > >http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/e...
> >
> > > Ben
> > >www.haaspowerair.com
> >
> > Hey with all due respect mate - do yourself a favour. *Either stop
> > promoting your site, or get the site done by a pro. *That's horrible! :)
> >
> > --
> > Duncan.
>
> You might be right...... I spend all my money on the motor project. I
> am somewhat successful though... You looked at it . <GG>

Well I would assume no less - and that you are very good at what you do.

However, if folk don't know you already, and they see your website -
they'll make a judgement right there and then - based on your *website*.

I'm from New Zealand - so I really don't know what a simple website
would cost to get done by a web designer over there - say a two page
site... all key details on the front page (don't want it to scroll *too*
much) - and a Contact Us page.

You get a genuinely professional looking website - that matches what you
do and what you stand for - for maybe $800 or so? (as said I don't know
what it would cost over there).

--
Duncan.

November 19th 10, 06:51 AM
On Nov 18, 8:26*pm, Dave Doe > wrote:
> In article <6313b87b-0922-4277-b761-300c6afcde29
> @d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, ,
> says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 18, 12:49 am, Dave Doe > wrote:
> > > In article <1cae999c-6438-4ae0-95a7-
> > > >, , benford2
> > > @aol.com says...
>
> > > > Is this the SX 300 you flew in when you were back in IA ?
>
> > > >http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/e...
>
> > > > Ben
> > > >www.haaspowerair.com
>
> > > Hey with all due respect mate - do yourself a favour. Either stop
> > > promoting your site, or get the site done by a pro. That's horrible! :)
>
> > > --
> > > Duncan.
>
> > You might be right...... I spend all my money on the motor project. I
> > am somewhat successful though... You looked at it . <GG>
>
> Well I would assume no less - and that you are very good at what you do.
>
> However, if folk don't know you already, and they see your website -
> they'll make a judgement right there and then - based on your *website*.
>
> I'm from New Zealand - so I really don't know what a simple website
> would cost to get done by a web designer over there - say a two page
> site... all key details on the front page (don't want it to scroll *too*
> much) - and a Contact Us page.
>
> You get a genuinely professional looking website - that matches what you
> do and what you stand for - for maybe $800 or so? (as said I don't know
> what it would cost over there).
>
> --
> Duncan.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thank you sir for the feedback.

Personally I feel actions speak louder then words, or even fancy
websites.

In this day of Bernie Madoff smoke and mirrors hype, the dazzle of
websites promoting vaporware are all too common.
Take the ----hawk Diesel, with all talk and NO deliveries. Or some
unnamed Subaru site that has firewall forward packages that don't seem
to cool , or fit, or operate as advertised, or even the famous Rotary
Engine website where the author has NEVER built build and flown an
experimental plane but is quick to tell every one how good he is and
how dangerous 'others' are.. It goes on and on but you get my drift.
My concept is simple, action speaks louder then words. Like the old
saying, " results talk, bull**** walks... Now, I need to get back to
test flying my prototype to comfirm the past 400+ hours and 5 years
of successful operation is not a fluke.

Thanks again for the feedback.

Ben.

Ari Silverstein
November 19th 10, 07:17 PM
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:49:24 +1300, Dave Doe wrote:

> In article <1cae999c-6438-4ae0-95a7-
> >, , benford2
> @aol.com says...
>>
>> Is this the SX 300 you flew in when you were back in IA ?
>>
>> http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/events01/media/02_3ZX.txt
>>
>> Ben
>> www.haaspowerair.com
>
> Hey with all due respect mate - do yourself a favour. Either stop
> promoting your site, or get the site done by a pro. That's horrible! :)

As a Velocity owner, I can vouch that regardless of Ben's horribly
mangled website, his engines are the snitch.
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!
http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

November 19th 10, 10:25 PM
On Nov 19, 12:17*pm, Ari Silverstein > wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:49:24 +1300, Dave Doe wrote:
> > In article <1cae999c-6438-4ae0-95a7-
> > >, , benford2
> > @aol.com says...
>
> >> Is this the SX 300 you flew in when you were back in IA ?
>
> >>http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/e....
>
> >> Ben
> >>www.haaspowerair.com
>
> > Hey with all due respect mate - do yourself a favour. *Either stop
> > promoting your site, or get the site done by a pro. *That's horrible! :)
>
> As a Velocity owner, I can vouch that regardless of Ben's horribly
> mangled website, his engines are the snitch.
> --
> A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
> Motto: Live To Spooge It!

OK. I can take a hint <GG>..

I will 'try' to open up the GO Daddy site and rework my website. This
is my first time at attempting website design and I can assure you I
am much better at machining and welding metal. The Go Daddy site
offers different templates and maybe I need to pick another one that
fits my needs. I ain't promising anything but....... I will try.

Call it stupid but I find it alot easier to test fly a plane with
twice the HP requirements then to create a decent website.

Ben.
www.Iain'tpostingmylink yet.com <GGGGG>

Ari Silverstein
November 20th 10, 05:50 PM
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:25:34 -0800 (PST), wrote:

> On Nov 19, 12:17*pm, Ari Silverstein > wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:49:24 +1300, Dave Doe wrote:
>>> In article <1cae999c-6438-4ae0-95a7-
>>> >, , benford2
>>> @aol.com says...
>>
>>>> Is this the SX 300 you flew in when you were back in IA ?
>>
>>>>http://www.faa.gov/data_research/accident_incident/preliminary_data/e...
>>
>>>> Ben
>>>>www.haaspowerair.com
>>
>>> Hey with all due respect mate - do yourself a favour. *Either stop
>>> promoting your site, or get the site done by a pro. *That's horrible! :)
>>
>> As a Velocity owner, I can vouch that regardless of Ben's horribly
>> mangled website, his engines are the snitch.
>> --
>> A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
>> Motto: Live To Spooge It!
>
> OK. I can take a hint <GG>..
>
> I will 'try' to open up the GO Daddy site and rework my website. This
> is my first time at attempting website design and I can assure you I
> am much better at machining and welding metal. The Go Daddy site
> offers different templates and maybe I need to pick another one that
> fits my needs. I ain't promising anything but....... I will try.
>
> Call it stupid but I find it alot easier to test fly a plane with
> twice the HP requirements then to create a decent website.
>
> Ben.
> www.Iain'tpostingmylink yet.com <GGGGG>

lol

Hang in there, maybe you can find a web designer who will trade you
seat time or lessons for a spiffy site?
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!
http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

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