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RobertR237
December 5th 03, 10:28 PM
From ANN.....
================================================== ==========

Top News

Pulsar Crash Takes New A/C Owner's Life
Fri, 05 Dec '03

You Can't Be TOO Careful When Learning A New Airplane
The transition to a new airplane can occasionally be difficult, even hazardous.
In the case of a Kentucky accident, the new owner of Pulsar N97JW found it to
be a fatal one. The Pulsar (File Photo, below) went down next to the small
grass runway at Samuels Airfield, in Bardstown, KY, during what was reported by
the FAA to be a low-altitude flight or a high-speed taxi attempt. An airport
official, Mike Forsee, reported that the deceased, Carl R. McDaniel, (62) of
Shepherdsville, was the only person aboard, and that he had purchased the plane
earlier in the day.

ANN made a polite attempt to contact the aircraft kit manufacturer, Pulsar
Aircraft, for more information. Our reporter was met with hostility by company
officials and hung up on... twice. Pulsar Aircraft has had some history of
questionable business dealings (reported previously by ANN) and some
credibility issues after a number of false and/or conflicting statements were
made by company representatives. This has resulted in their earning a "Not
Recommended" rating for the next edition of the Kindred Spirit Press's
SportPlane Resource Guide.
================================================== ==========

Now I wonder why Pulsar Aircraft might not be too responsive to the request
from a phoney news agency that "made a polite" attempt at contacting them?
Read the response from Pulsar below.

================================================== ==========

Hello everyone,
This is not the first time that ANN is using it's paper for biased reporting
and extortion tactics. ANN had fraudulently tried to extort money for ads
we never ordered. We refused to pay them and were sued by ANN. We did not
need a lawer to win the case in a FL court room. Mr. Jim Campbell is known
in the industry to be of the most questionalble character and was actually
banned from the Sun N' Fun Convention grounds due to his harrasement
tactics while dealing with aircraft companies.

Four news agencies called on us and we were happy to provide them with
information on that evening. When ANN called I politely told them that I did
not care
to share anything with them and that the FAA will be the source for any
information on what happened. How can i know anything being 2000 miles
away. I was not surprised to read their biased reporting again so0 I'm
letting you guys know our side of the story.
I had posted to the group what we know (very little) about the crash as soon
as I heard of it and then today I posted my conclusions as to what happened
for the sake of trying to educate pilots on how carefully they should
approach flying an unfamiliar airplane.
Our condolences to the Mc Daniels family.

================================================== ==========

As a add on to the above, Pulsar was served with the lawsuit at Sun-N-Fun even
though Campbell had been banned from the facilites and had used the Sun-N-Fun
event in the past for serving his lawsuits.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

Yosimite Sam
December 6th 03, 12:42 AM
Zoom is a disgusting creature.....he did the same extortion crap with NSI.

--
Yosimite Sam

ChuckSlusarczyk
December 6th 03, 03:20 AM
In article >, RobertR237 says...
>Hello everyone,
>This is not the first time that ANN is using it's paper for biased reporting
>and extortion tactics. ANN had fraudulently tried to extort money for ads
>we never ordered. We refused to pay them and were sued by ANN.

You and a bunch more .What a lousy human jaun chooses to defend .Birds of a
feather.

> We did not
>need a lawer to win the case in a FL court room.

Sad part was they had to spend money to appear in the Fla court to get it
quashed. Maybe zooms advertisers should be made aware of his tactics. I guess in
America if you don't like a TV show you can write the sponsors so I don't see
how writing zooms sponsors is illegal.

> Mr. Jim Campbell is known
>in the industry to be of the most questionalble character and was actually
>banned from the Sun N' Fun Convention grounds due to his harrasement
>tactics while dealing with aircraft companies.

And that's the tip of the iceberg.

> I was not surprised to read their biased reporting again so0 I'm
>letting you guys know our side of the story.

I'm very familiar with his bias and his vindictive nature and so are more and
more people. This is why we cannot just be quiet and let things drop. The truth
about zoom has to be brought out every so often so that newbies aren't sold a
bill of goods by him and his sock puppet jaun.

>
>As a add on to the above, Pulsar was served with the lawsuit at Sun-N-Fun even
>though Campbell had been banned from the facilites and had used the Sun-N-Fun
>event in the past for serving his lawsuits.

Another classic example of how zoom thinks he's above the law.


By the way where was the Pulsar statement posted?

See ya

Chuck Slusarczyk RAH-15/1 ret

Ron Wanttaja
December 6th 03, 03:25 AM
Thanks for the info, Robert, and posting Pulsar's side of the story.

On 05 Dec 2003 22:28:59 GMT, (RobertR237) wrote:

>As a add on to the above, Pulsar was served with the lawsuit at Sun-N-Fun even
>though Campbell had been banned from the facilites and had used the Sun-N-Fun
>event in the past for serving his lawsuits.

Even more interesting, Campbell claims in his latest SnF lawsuit that SnF's
actions caused a loss of advertisers. But I wonder how he's going to prove
how many advertisers were turned against him by SnF's alleged actions vs.
those who felt Pulsar got a raw deal?

Speaking Campbell's serving people at SnF, here' a bit of hypocrisy for
you: This is from Zoom's lawsuit against the RAH-15:

"Counter-Defendants, PUCILLO, and, MILES, have purposely timed legal
actions against Counter-Claimants to coincide with major aviation
journalistic and marketing events so as to embarrass JAMES CAMPBELL, to
hinder the marketing of U.S. AVIATOR MAGAZINE and The Sport Plane Resource
Guide, 2nd Edition, and to dissuade aviation interests from advertising in
CAMPBELL'S publications. These events include the Sun & Fun 1997 and 1998,
the Oshkosh 1997, and the Copperstate 1997 air shows."

Gee...seems like it's OK when Campbell does it.

Ron Wanttaja

RobertR237
December 6th 03, 05:59 AM
In article >, ChuckSlusarczyk
> writes:

>>Hello everyone,
>>This is not the first time that ANN is using it's paper for biased reporting
>>and extortion tactics. ANN had fraudulently tried to extort money for ads
>>we never ordered. We refused to pay them and were sued by ANN.
>
>You and a bunch more .What a lousy human jaun chooses to defend .Birds of a
>feather.
>
>> We did not
>>need a lawer to win the case in a FL court room.
>
>Sad part was they had to spend money to appear in the Fla court to get it
>quashed. Maybe zooms advertisers should be made aware of his tactics. I guess
>in
>America if you don't like a TV show you can write the sponsors so I don't see
>how writing zooms sponsors is illegal.
>

Which is exactly what Campbell hopes will force them into paying since it would
probably have been cheaper than having to travel to FL and hire a lawyer to
fight it.

Well, since he uses his publication to influence your potiential customers I
fail to see how it would be illegal to write and inform his sponsors of your
side of the issues.

>> Mr. Jim Campbell is known
>>in the industry to be of the most questionalble character and was actually
>>banned from the Sun N' Fun Convention grounds due to his harrasement
>>tactics while dealing with aircraft companies.
>
>And that's the tip of the iceberg.
>
>> I was not surprised to read their biased reporting again so0 I'm
>>letting you guys know our side of the story.
>
>I'm very familiar with his bias and his vindictive nature and so are more and
>more people. This is why we cannot just be quiet and let things drop. The
>truth
>about zoom has to be brought out every so often so that newbies aren't sold a
>bill of goods by him and his sock puppet jaun.
>
>>
>>As a add on to the above, Pulsar was served with the lawsuit at Sun-N-Fun
>even
>>though Campbell had been banned from the facilites and had used the
>Sun-N-Fun
>>event in the past for serving his lawsuits.
>
>Another classic example of how zoom thinks he's above the law.
>
>
>By the way where was the Pulsar statement posted?
>
>See ya
>
>Chuck Slusarczyk RAH-15/1 ret

The Pulsar was posted to the KIS Builders NewGroup and I reposted it for this
group. The shame of the ANN tactic is that you and others that he trashes on a
reoccuring basis have not way to counter his trash and have now way to know how
much damage he really causes.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

red12049
December 6th 03, 07:10 AM
Well,

for what its' worth.... I sent a copy of this (less any names) to Jim at ANN
and his response was that Pulsar didn't reply, they hung up, and that the
rest was a lie, and his lawyers could prove it. Not sure he realizes (at
least until he sees this, that I also posted the e-mail in the community
forum. Might as well use his own resources to dispute him, since he is so
kind as to provide them.... :)

Red

"RobertR237" > wrote in message
...
> From ANN.....
> ================================================== ==========
>
> Top News
>
> Pulsar Crash Takes New A/C Owner's Life
> Fri, 05 Dec '03
>
> You Can't Be TOO Careful When Learning A New Airplane
> The transition to a new airplane can occasionally be difficult, even
hazardous.
> In the case of a Kentucky accident, the new owner of Pulsar N97JW found it
to
> be a fatal one. The Pulsar (File Photo, below) went down next to the small
> grass runway at Samuels Airfield, in Bardstown, KY, during what was
reported by
> the FAA to be a low-altitude flight or a high-speed taxi attempt. An
airport
> official, Mike Forsee, reported that the deceased, Carl R. McDaniel, (62)
of
> Shepherdsville, was the only person aboard, and that he had purchased the
plane
> earlier in the day.
>
> ANN made a polite attempt to contact the aircraft kit manufacturer, Pulsar
> Aircraft, for more information. Our reporter was met with hostility by
company
> officials and hung up on... twice. Pulsar Aircraft has had some history of
> questionable business dealings (reported previously by ANN) and some
> credibility issues after a number of false and/or conflicting statements
were
> made by company representatives. This has resulted in their earning a "Not
> Recommended" rating for the next edition of the Kindred Spirit Press's
> SportPlane Resource Guide.
> ================================================== ==========
>
> Now I wonder why Pulsar Aircraft might not be too responsive to the
request
> from a phoney news agency that "made a polite" attempt at contacting them?
> Read the response from Pulsar below.
>
> ================================================== ==========
>
> Hello everyone,
> This is not the first time that ANN is using it's paper for biased
reporting
> and extortion tactics. ANN had fraudulently tried to extort money for ads
> we never ordered. We refused to pay them and were sued by ANN. We did
not
> need a lawer to win the case in a FL court room. Mr. Jim Campbell is
known
> in the industry to be of the most questionalble character and was actually
> banned from the Sun N' Fun Convention grounds due to his harrasement
> tactics while dealing with aircraft companies.
>
> Four news agencies called on us and we were happy to provide them with
> information on that evening. When ANN called I politely told them that I
did
> not care
> to share anything with them and that the FAA will be the source for any
> information on what happened. How can i know anything being 2000 miles
> away. I was not surprised to read their biased reporting again so0 I'm
> letting you guys know our side of the story.
> I had posted to the group what we know (very little) about the crash as
soon
> as I heard of it and then today I posted my conclusions as to what
happened
> for the sake of trying to educate pilots on how carefully they should
> approach flying an unfamiliar airplane.
> Our condolences to the Mc Daniels family.
>
> ================================================== ==========
>
> As a add on to the above, Pulsar was served with the lawsuit at Sun-N-Fun
even
> though Campbell had been banned from the facilites and had used the
Sun-N-Fun
> event in the past for serving his lawsuits.
>
>
> Bob Reed
> www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
> KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....
>
> "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
> pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
> (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)
>


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red12049
December 6th 03, 07:30 AM
Oops... Spoke too soon..... Just looked, and my post in the forum is gone.
Even more hysterically, my login no longer works. Gotta love it. Fair and
unbiased reporting, equal access.... justice, the American Way.... yada yada
yada

Red

"red12049" > wrote in message
...
> Well,
>
> for what its' worth.... I sent a copy of this (less any names) to Jim at
ANN
> and his response was that Pulsar didn't reply, they hung up, and that the
> rest was a lie, and his lawyers could prove it. Not sure he realizes (at
> least until he sees this, that I also posted the e-mail in the community
> forum. Might as well use his own resources to dispute him, since he is so
> kind as to provide them.... :)
>
> Red
>
> "RobertR237" > wrote in message
> ...
> > From ANN.....
> > ================================================== ==========
> >
> > Top News
> >
> > Pulsar Crash Takes New A/C Owner's Life
> > Fri, 05 Dec '03
> >
> > You Can't Be TOO Careful When Learning A New Airplane
> > The transition to a new airplane can occasionally be difficult, even
> hazardous.
> > In the case of a Kentucky accident, the new owner of Pulsar N97JW found
it
> to
> > be a fatal one. The Pulsar (File Photo, below) went down next to the
small
> > grass runway at Samuels Airfield, in Bardstown, KY, during what was
> reported by
> > the FAA to be a low-altitude flight or a high-speed taxi attempt. An
> airport
> > official, Mike Forsee, reported that the deceased, Carl R. McDaniel,
(62)
> of
> > Shepherdsville, was the only person aboard, and that he had purchased
the
> plane
> > earlier in the day.
> >
> > ANN made a polite attempt to contact the aircraft kit manufacturer,
Pulsar
> > Aircraft, for more information. Our reporter was met with hostility by
> company
> > officials and hung up on... twice. Pulsar Aircraft has had some history
of
> > questionable business dealings (reported previously by ANN) and some
> > credibility issues after a number of false and/or conflicting
statements
> were
> > made by company representatives. This has resulted in their earning a
"Not
> > Recommended" rating for the next edition of the Kindred Spirit Press's
> > SportPlane Resource Guide.
> > ================================================== ==========
> >
> > Now I wonder why Pulsar Aircraft might not be too responsive to the
> request
> > from a phoney news agency that "made a polite" attempt at contacting
them?
> > Read the response from Pulsar below.
> >
> > ================================================== ==========
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> > This is not the first time that ANN is using it's paper for biased
> reporting
> > and extortion tactics. ANN had fraudulently tried to extort money for
ads
> > we never ordered. We refused to pay them and were sued by ANN. We did
> not
> > need a lawer to win the case in a FL court room. Mr. Jim Campbell is
> known
> > in the industry to be of the most questionalble character and was
actually
> > banned from the Sun N' Fun Convention grounds due to his harrasement
> > tactics while dealing with aircraft companies.
> >
> > Four news agencies called on us and we were happy to provide them with
> > information on that evening. When ANN called I politely told them that
I
> did
> > not care
> > to share anything with them and that the FAA will be the source for any
> > information on what happened. How can i know anything being 2000 miles
> > away. I was not surprised to read their biased reporting again so0 I'm
> > letting you guys know our side of the story.
> > I had posted to the group what we know (very little) about the crash as
> soon
> > as I heard of it and then today I posted my conclusions as to what
> happened
> > for the sake of trying to educate pilots on how carefully they should
> > approach flying an unfamiliar airplane.
> > Our condolences to the Mc Daniels family.
> >
> > ================================================== ==========
> >
> > As a add on to the above, Pulsar was served with the lawsuit at
Sun-N-Fun
> even
> > though Campbell had been banned from the facilites and had used the
> Sun-N-Fun
> > event in the past for serving his lawsuits.
> >
> >
> > Bob Reed
> > www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
> > KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....
> >
> > "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
> > pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
> > (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)
> >
>
>
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RR Urban
December 6th 03, 11:26 AM
>Well,
>
>for what its' worth.... I sent a copy of this (less any names) to Jim...


>Red
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

It is worth less than nothing.

Unless, you consider posturing yourself for a
possible frivolous lawsuit is worth something.


Barnyard BOb -- leopards don't change their spots

red12049
December 6th 03, 01:24 PM
And a good morning to you also :)


"RR Urban" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> >Well,
> >
> >for what its' worth.... I sent a copy of this (less any names) to Jim...
>
>
> >Red
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> It is worth less than nothing.
>
> Unless, you consider posturing yourself for a
> possible frivolous lawsuit is worth something.
>
>
> Barnyard BOb -- leopards don't change their spots


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RR Urban
December 6th 03, 03:28 PM
>> >Well,
>> >
>> >for what its' worth.... I sent a copy of this (less any names) to Jim...

>> >Red
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> It is worth less than nothing.
>>
>> Unless, you consider posturing yourself for a
>> possible frivolous lawsuit is worth something.

>> Barnyard BOb --

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 08:24:43 -0500, "red12049"
> wrote:

>And a good morning to you also :)
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Sorry.
I'm not the tooth fairy, Red.

I tells it like it is.
So, proceed at your own risk/peril.

Once last time - corresponding with Zoom is
fruitless, unless you are kissing ass like Jaun
or have counsel with a penchant to play with a
loose cannon of his caliber.

Barnyard BOb --

Richard Riley
December 6th 03, 04:34 PM
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 09:28:43 -0600, RR Urban > wrote:

:
:Sorry.
:I'm not the tooth fairy, Red.
:
:I tells it like it is.
:So, proceed at your own risk/peril.
:
:Once last time - corresponding with Zoom is
:fruitless, unless you are kissing ass like Jaun
:or have counsel with a penchant to play with a
:loose cannon of his caliber.

There are at least 5 opportunities there for good puns there, but I'm
too sleep deprived to take advantage of them.

Of course you're right, corresponding with Captain Fruitball is like
wrestling with a pig (you both get dirty, and after a while you
realize the pig likes it).

But somehow, he always has new recruits for the Barking Moonbat
Patrol. I guess we shouldn't underestimate the power of human
stupidity.

RobertR237
December 6th 03, 05:17 PM
In article >, "red12049"
> writes:

>
>Oops... Spoke too soon..... Just looked, and my post in the forum is gone.
>Even more hysterically, my login no longer works. Gotta love it. Fair and
>unbiased reporting, equal access.... justice, the American Way.... yada yada
>yada
>
>Red
>
>

Welcome to the world according to Zoom. You don't agree with him and you
suddenly find that you have no option to reply. The next thing you will see
will be an email threat of some sort stating that if you try to contact them
again that he will take legal action.

Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

RobertR237
December 6th 03, 05:17 PM
In article >, "red12049"
> writes:

>
>Well,
>
>for what its' worth.... I sent a copy of this (less any names) to Jim at ANN
>and his response was that Pulsar didn't reply, they hung up, and that the
>rest was a lie, and his lawyers could prove it. Not sure he realizes (at
>least until he sees this, that I also posted the e-mail in the community
>forum. Might as well use his own resources to dispute him, since he is so
>kind as to provide them.... :)
>
>Red
>
>

Gee, I don't know how well Jim and ANN are doing but he must be making a bunch
of lawyers very happy with all the proving they must be doing.

What really ****es me off about this is the use of a very sad and unfortunate
accident as a ploy to further his own agenda and slander a company who really
had nothing to do with the accident and no direct knowledge regarding the
accident. Any call to Pulsar by the normal news media would have been to
gather information on the aircraft that is already well known (or should be) to
ANN. Any call to Pulsar by ANN would have been placed with the full advance
knowledge that under the circumstances Pulsar would have nothing to say to ANN
and nothing to add to the report. The entire story and call was a frame job
from the outset with the intent to try and imply blame on Pulsar. The same
damn dirty crap they have been doing to Chuck all these years.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

RR Urban
December 6th 03, 05:26 PM
>What really ****es me off about this is the use of a very sad and unfortunate
>accident as a ploy to further his own agenda and slander a company who really
>had nothing to do with the accident and no direct knowledge regarding the
>accident. Any call to Pulsar by the normal news media would have been to
>gather information on the aircraft that is already well known (or should be) to
>ANN. Any call to Pulsar by ANN would have been placed with the full advance
>knowledge that under the circumstances Pulsar would have nothing to say to ANN
>and nothing to add to the report. The entire story and call was a frame job
>from the outset with the intent to try and imply blame on Pulsar. The same
>damn dirty crap they have been doing to Chuck all these years.
>
>
>Bob Reed
+++++++++++

Another frame job, if ever there was one.
Bullseye, Bob.


Barnyard BOb --

ChuckSlusarczyk
December 7th 03, 02:56 AM
In article >, RobertR237 says...

> Any call to Pulsar by ANN would have been placed with the full advance
>knowledge that under the circumstances Pulsar would have nothing to say to ANN
>and nothing to add to the report. The entire story and call was a frame job
>from the outset with the intent to try and imply blame on Pulsar. The same
>damn dirty crap they have been doing to Chuck all these years.

Just goes to show that zoom never changes . Yet in light of this jaun still
sucks up to zoom .I guess they both have the same moral standards...none.
Funny thing ,back in 83 Pulsar won First place in the DuPont design competition
in the Sport plane division and I won first place in the Ultralight division. So
here's 2 companys that have proven accomplishments being judged by a guy who
never even won a sausage. Sheesh!!

He's still a phoney ,always was a phoney and will always be a phoney .
I'll have to contact Pulsar and see if his ducks might want to play with my
ducks...

See ya

Chuck S RAH-15/1 ret

ChuckSlusarczyk
December 7th 03, 03:04 AM
In article >, red12049 says...
>
>Oops... Spoke too soon..... Just looked, and my post in the forum is gone.
>Even more hysterically, my login no longer works. Gotta love it. Fair and
>unbiased reporting, equal access.... justice, the American Way.... yada yada
>yada
>
>Red

Proof positive of the importance of RAH as a conduit of free speech. I went thru
the same thing years ago and finally had to resort to using RAH to get my side
of the story out. People have to be made aware of the caliber person zoom is and
from time to time posts have to be made to inform the newbies .

The fact he pulled your letter so fast is proof that he still reads RAH but
lacks the testicular fortitude to post here in a free forum. He prefers a
controlled enviroment where he can publish his brand of the truth unfettered by
honesty.

See ya

Chuck S RAH-15/1 ret

Frank Hitlaw
December 7th 03, 08:24 PM
(RobertR237) wrote in message >...
> In article >, "red12049"
> > write
> Gee, I don't know how well Jim and ANN are doing but he must be making a bunch
> of lawyers very happy with all the proving they must be doing.
>
> What really ****es me off about this is the use of a very sad and unfortunate
> accident as a ploy to further his own agenda and slander a company who really
> had nothing to do with the accident and no direct knowledge regarding the
> accident. Any call to Pulsar by the normal news media would have been to
> gather information on the aircraft that is already well known (or should be) to
> ANN. Any call to Pulsar by ANN would have been placed with the full advance
> knowledge that under the circumstances Pulsar would have nothing to say to ANN
> and nothing to add to the report. The entire story and call was a frame job
> from the outset with the intent to try and imply blame on Pulsar. The same
> damn dirty crap they have been doing to Chuck all these years.
> >
> Bob Reed
> www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
> KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....
>
> "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
> pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
> (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
This is nothing new remember the Cappella deal.I just wonder if Capt
fruitloops will have a moment of rememberance for this pilot at his
next SnF party.I am surprised that he hasn't flown many hours with
him.
Frank M.Hitlaw

RobertR237
December 8th 03, 02:46 AM
In article >,
(Frank Hitlaw) writes:

> This is nothing new remember the Cappella deal.I just wonder if Capt
>fruitloops will have a moment of rememberance for this pilot at his
>next SnF party.I am surprised that he hasn't flown many hours with
>him.
> Frank M.Hitlaw
>
>

Naw, he wasn't famous enough to be one of Zooms long term best buddies.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

John Ousterhout
December 8th 03, 05:10 AM
On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 16:34:52 GMT, Richard Riley
> wrote:

>Of course you're right, corresponding with Captain Fruitball is like
>wrestling with a pig (you both get dirty, and after a while you
>realize the pig likes it).
>
>But somehow, he always has new recruits for the Barking Moonbat
>Patrol. I guess we shouldn't underestimate the power of human
>stupidity.

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity,
and I'm not sure about the former.
--Albert Einstein

There's no shortage of those stupid enough to become Zoomies, however
-- with the exception of Juan -- most of them learn the truth after a
while.

- John Ousterhout -
the web page Jim Campbell has tried to shut down.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ousterj/

ChuckSlusarczyk
December 8th 03, 11:17 AM
In article >, John Ousterhout says...

>
>There's no shortage of those stupid enough to become Zoomies, however
>-- with the exception of Juan -- most of them learn the truth after a
>while.

Miss Vickie needed only a few months to see the light. jaun will stay dim for a
long time :-)

Chuck S RAH-15/1 ret

RR Urban
December 8th 03, 02:42 PM
ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:

>>There's no shortage of those stupid enough to become Zoomies, however
>>-- with the exception of Juan -- most of them learn the truth after a
>>while.
>
>Miss Vickie needed only a few months to see the light. jaun will stay dim for a
>long time :-)
>
>Chuck S RAH-15/1 ret
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

It's Vicki without the "e".

But, it's ok 'Bro'...
Nobody but you and I can spell your surname...
much less pronounce it. <g>

Clue: surname is not 'Chuck' or El Pollo Loco'.


Barnyard BOb -- can anybody pronounce Chadukiewicz

RobertR237
December 8th 03, 02:53 PM
In article >, John Ousterhout
> writes:

>
>There's no shortage of those stupid enough to become Zoomies, however
>-- with the exception of Juan -- most of them learn the truth after a
>while.
>
>- John Ousterhout -
>the web page Jim Campbell has tried to shut down.
>http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ousterj/
>
>

Guilty as charged!


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

B2431
December 8th 03, 07:11 PM
>From: ChuckSlusarczyk

>In article >, red12049 says...
>>
>>Oops... Spoke too soon..... Just looked, and my post in the forum is gone.
>>Even more hysterically, my login no longer works. Gotta love it. Fair and
>>unbiased reporting, equal access.... justice, the American Way.... yada yada
>>yada
>>
>>Red
>
>Proof positive of the importance of RAH as a conduit of free speech. I went
>thru
>the same thing years ago and finally had to resort to using RAH to get my
>side
>of the story out. People have to be made aware of the caliber person zoom is
>and
>from time to time posts have to be made to inform the newbies .
>
>The fact he pulled your letter so fast is proof that he still reads RAH but
>lacks the testicular fortitude to post here in a free forum. He prefers a
>controlled enviroment where he can publish his brand of the truth unfettered
>by
>honesty.
>
>See ya
>
>Chuck S RAH-15/1 ret
>

It would be nice if someone hacked int ANN and published the letters zoom
refuses to acknowledge. Better yet, post an article telling the truth about
Chuck.

Not that I would suggest an illegal act.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

Ron Wanttaja
December 9th 03, 03:01 AM
On 08 Dec 2003 19:11:10 GMT, (B2431) wrote:

>It would be nice if someone hacked int ANN and published the letters zoom
>refuses to acknowledge. Better yet, post an article telling the truth about
>Chuck.

No. If someone did this, then he has deniability for *any* article on his
web page: "I didn't post that...the hackers did!"

If anyone feels the truth has to be told, then *tell it*. Let your friends
and fellow pilots know. Campbell's tactics are effective only if people
don't know the other side of the story.

Ron Wanttaja

ChuckSlusarczyk
December 9th 03, 03:03 AM
In article >, RR Urban says...

>
>It's Vicki without the "e".

Oops it's an olde Polish habit trying to give people that don't have enough
letters in their names a extra letter or two. But I can't believe I gave her a
vowel :-)

>
>But, it's ok 'Bro'...
>Nobody but you and I can spell your surname...
>much less pronounce it. <g>
>
>Clue: surname is not 'Chuck' or El Pollo Loco'.
>
>
>Barnyard BOb -- can anybody pronounce Chadukiewicz

I can :-)

Dzien dobry

Karol S
>

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