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Mark IV
December 3rd 10, 12:24 PM
“Warm up the engine at 1,000 to 1,200 rpm unless it’s necessary to
reduce rpm to keep from exceeding the oil pressure redline. As the oil
warms up, the rpm can be increased. Allow plenty of time for the
engine to warm up,” Steven W. Ells advised "
“The system, although simple, does have one major downside. In most
light aircraft installations, because the residual heat from the
exhaust is what powers the cabin heater, a leak in the exhaust system
could mean exhaust coming into the cockpit. And that means carbon
monoxide could be entering as well. Carbon monoxide is an odorless,
colorless gas that can incapacitate pilots and passengers,” Alton K.
Marsh said
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Final exam question of the day:
Question: What is the difference between best rate of climb speed and
best angle of climb speed?
Answer: The best rate of climb speed, also known as VY, provides the
greatest gain in altitude in the least amount of time. The best angle
of climb speed (also known as VX) provides the greatest gain in
altitude over a given horizontal distance. The different airspeeds
that either limit or result in specific aircraft performance are known
as “V speeds”—V for velocity. The different V-speed abbreviations are
listed in the federal aviation regulations under Part 1: Definitions
and Abbreviations.
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Mark IV
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instant noodle snack. It’s called Not Poodle.
December 3rd 10, 04:54 PM
Mark IV > got the latest AOPA ePilot Flight Training:
Then regurgitated it here as though he wrote it.
“Warm up the engine at 1,000 to 1,200 rpm unless it’s necessary to
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Mark IV
December 3rd 10, 06:29 PM
On Dec 3, 11:54*am, wrote:
> Mark IV > got the latest AOPA ePilot Flight Training:
>
> Then regurgitated it here as though he wrote it.
"Stephen W.Ells advised", "Alton K.Marsh said".
Anything else you'd like rubbed in your face?
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Mark IV
December 3rd 10, 06:42 PM
Mark IV > wrote:
> On Dec 3, 11:54Â*am, wrote:
>> Mark IV > got the latest AOPA ePilot Flight Training:
>>
>> Then regurgitated it here as though he wrote it.
>
> "Stephen W.Ells advised", "Alton K.Marsh said".
There are no such attributions in the text you plagiarized.
> Anything else you'd like rubbed in your face?
Bluster on fool.
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Jim Logajan
December 3rd 10, 07:24 PM
Mark IV > wrote:
> On Dec 3, 11:54*am, wrote:
>> Mark IV > got the latest AOPA ePilot Flight
>> Traini
> ng:
>>
>> Then regurgitated it here as though he wrote it.
>
> "Stephen W.Ells advised", "Alton K.Marsh said".
>
> Anything else you'd like rubbed in your face?
Those aren't attributions, and would not in any case justify the lack of
attribution in the "Final exam question of the day" portion.
There didn't seem to be any point in your original post, other than
posturing by stealing the text written by others and making it appear as
your own.
Bug Dout
December 3rd 10, 07:41 PM
Mark IV > writes:
> Question: What is the difference between best rate of climb speed and
> best angle of climb speed?
>
>
>
> Answer: The best rate of climb speed, also known as VY, provides the
> greatest gain in altitude in the least amount of time. The best angle
> of climb speed (also known as VX) provides the greatest gain in
> altitude over a given horizontal distance.
Quibble: I would change the first to:
The best rate of climb speed, also known as VY, provides the
greatest gain in altitude in a unit time (or given time).
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george
December 3rd 10, 07:43 PM
On Dec 4, 8:24*am, Jim Logajan > wrote:
> Those aren't attributions, and would not in any case justify the lack of
> attribution in the "Final exam question of the day" portion.
>
> There didn't seem to be any point in your original post, other than
> posturing by stealing the text written by others and making it appear as
> your own.
Looks like he's found one of those training courses where the
contributors are 'captain' so and so...
All that solar clothes drier installation must be getting to him
December 3rd 10, 07:56 PM
Bug Dout > wrote:
> Mark IV > writes:
>
>> Question: What is the difference between best rate of climb speed and
>> best angle of climb speed?
>>
>>
>>
>> Answer: The best rate of climb speed, also known as VY, provides the
>> greatest gain in altitude in the least amount of time. The best angle
>> of climb speed (also known as VX) provides the greatest gain in
>> altitude over a given horizontal distance.
>
> Quibble: I would change the first to:
>
> The best rate of climb speed, also known as VY, provides the
> greatest gain in altitude in a unit time (or given time).
You need to quibble with the ePilot flight training edition which is where
the quote, unattributed of course, came from.
Had he bothered to quote the entire passage, there would have been a
reference to a link that gave expanded information.
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Ari Silverstein
December 3rd 10, 08:04 PM
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 16:54:27 -0000, wrote:
> Mark IV > got the latest AOPA ePilot Flight Training:
>
> Then regurgitated it here as though he wrote it.
> ´Warm up the engine at 1,000 to 1,200 rpm unless it˙s necessary to
Yep, another fake Mark(ie) the bookworm pilot trick.
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MarkIV[_2_]
December 3rd 10, 08:07 PM
On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:24:56 -0600, Jim Logajan wrote:
> Mark IV > wrote:
>> On Dec 3, 11:54*am, wrote:
>>> Mark IV > got the latest AOPA ePilot Flight
>>> Traini
>> ng:
>>>
>>> Then regurgitated it here as though he wrote it.
>>
>> "Stephen W.Ells advised", "Alton K.Marsh said".
>>
>> Anything else you'd like rubbed in your face?
>
> Those aren't attributions, and would not in any case justify the lack of
> attribution in the "Final exam question of the day" portion.
>
> There didn't seem to be any point in your original post, other than
> posturing by stealing the text written by others and making it appear as
> your own.
I like you, Jim. I like this newsgroup. A lot of people
like me here too and there is nothing you can do to
make people stop liking me.
http://gayincarolina.jottit.com/my_main_squeeze
Mark IV
Ari Silverstein
December 3rd 10, 08:27 PM
On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 15:07:48 -0500, MarkIV wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:24:56 -0600, Jim Logajan wrote:
>
>> Mark IV > wrote:
>>> On Dec 3, 11:54*am, wrote:
>>>> Mark IV > got the latest AOPA ePilot Flight
>>>> Traini
>>> ng:
>>>>
>>>> Then regurgitated it here as though he wrote it.
>>>
>>> "Stephen W.Ells advised", "Alton K.Marsh said".
>>>
>>> Anything else you'd like rubbed in your face?
>>
>> Those aren't attributions, and would not in any case justify the lack of
>> attribution in the "Final exam question of the day" portion.
>>
>> There didn't seem to be any point in your original post, other than
>> posturing by stealing the text written by others and making it appear as
>> your own.
>
> I like you, Jim. I like this newsgroup. A lot of people
> like me here too and there is nothing you can do to
> make people stop liking me.
>
> http://gayincarolina.jottit.com/my_main_squeeze
>
> Mark IV
You have a point there, Mark(ie)...too bad it sits prominently on your
head.
*lol*
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Mark IV
December 3rd 10, 09:19 PM
On Dec 3, 2:24*pm, Jim Logajan > wrote:
> Mark IV > wrote:
> > On Dec 3, 11:54 am, wrote:
> >> Mark IV > got the latest AOPA ePilot Flight
> >> Traini
> > ng:
>
> >> Then regurgitated it here as though he wrote it.
>
> > "Stephen W.Ells advised", "Alton K.Marsh said".
>
> > Anything else you'd like rubbed in your face?
>
> Those aren't attributions, and would not in any case justify the lack of
> attribution in the "Final exam question of the day" portion.
>
> There didn't seem to be any point in your original post, other than
> posturing by stealing the text written by others and making it appear as
> your own.
You are both incorrect as per established standards
or literacy and writing. The quotation marks (yeah,
those little tick marks I MADE SURE WERE THERE,
are sufficient to convey that the information is imported
from a third source. That is writing 101.
Now, we have
1. The displayance of quotation marks
2. The author's names who wrote it.
3. The internet link to it which is available
to me, would only link back to my e mail,
not where it originates.
So, if you guy must insist in bitching today, I
suggest you do so with your husbands. Others
may simply take the information and use it for
aviation. It's not like there's an overwhelming load
of it being posted here anyway.
---
Mark IV
Jim Logajan
December 3rd 10, 09:57 PM
Mark IV > wrote:
> 1. The displayance of quotation marks
None appear around the "Final exam question of the day".
> 2. The author's names who wrote it.
Missing the attribution to AOPA. Even the subject line is a rip-off.
> 3. The internet link to it which is available
> to me, would only link back to my e mail,
> not where it originates.
If you had prefaced your post with something like "Here are some useful
tips from an AOPA ePilot Training Tip e-mail" you wouldn't now have to be
defending your posting. If you had actually followed some of the links in
that e-mail you would have found valid internet links where readers could
find the full text.
> Others
> may simply take the information and use it for
> aviation.
Anyone interested could join AOPA and get those e-mails. (I get them.) You
are not adding any value.
> It's not like there's an overwhelming load
> of it being posted here anyway.
You've copied at least one post of mine in a way that made it appear as
your own, so don't go using that excuse to ride on the efforts of others.
a[_3_]
December 3rd 10, 09:57 PM
On Dec 3, 7:24*am, Mark IV > wrote:
> “Warm up the engine at 1,000 to 1,200 rpm unless it’s necessary to
> reduce rpm to keep from exceeding the oil pressure redline. As the oil
> warms up, the rpm can be increased. Allow plenty of time for the
> engine to warm up,” Steven W. Ells advised "
>
> “The system, although simple, does have one major downside. In most
> light aircraft installations, because the residual heat from the
> exhaust is what powers the cabin heater, a leak in the exhaust system
> could mean exhaust coming into the cockpit. And that means carbon
> monoxide could be entering as well. Carbon monoxide is an odorless,
> colorless gas that can incapacitate pilots and passengers,” Alton K.
> Marsh said
>
> ---
> Final exam question of the day:
>
> Question: What is the difference between best rate of climb speed and
> best angle of climb speed?
>
> Answer: The best rate of climb speed, also known as VY, provides the
> greatest gain in altitude in the least amount of time. The best angle
> of climb speed (also known as VX) provides the greatest gain in
> altitude over a given horizontal distance. The different airspeeds
> that either limit or result in specific aircraft performance are known
> as “V speeds”—V for velocity. The different V-speed abbreviations are
> listed in the federal aviation regulations under Part 1: Definitions
> and Abbreviations.
>
> ---
> Mark IV
> Koreans have recently brought out their own vegetarian version of an
> instant noodle snack. It’s called Not Poodle.
So you're on the runway accelerating: With no significant crosswind,
if it's a short runway this pilot tends to keep the airplane on the
surface to Vx, then applies back pressure to keep it there until clear
of the threat.
If there's a serious crosswind I keep the wheels on the ground until
I'm sure there's plenty of airspeed, then take it off firmly. By the
way, on a wide runway with a lot of crosswind component start your run
not on the centerline but more to the downwind edge of the runway,
when you're within 10 kts or so of takeoff speed you can take some of
the crosswind component away by turning toward the upwind edge of the
runway. 100 feet of useful runway width (say on one whose paved width
is 150 feet) can really change the relative angle of the wind.
On a longer runway back pressure comes on when airspeed reaches bottom
of the yellow, some of it is released when a/s is at Vx. At 50 feet
or so more back pressure comes off, I trim for Vy, then at 500 feet I
trim for cruise climb and when the airspeed is where I want it I bring
the engine back to 25 square.
How do the rest of you guys in complex singles do it?
December 3rd 10, 10:14 PM
Mark IV > wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2:24Â*pm, Jim Logajan > wrote:
>> Mark IV > wrote:
>> > On Dec 3, 11:54 am, wrote:
>> >> Mark IV > got the latest AOPA ePilot Flight
>> >> Traini
>> > ng:
>>
>> >> Then regurgitated it here as though he wrote it.
>>
>> > "Stephen W.Ells advised", "Alton K.Marsh said".
>>
>> > Anything else you'd like rubbed in your face?
>>
>> Those aren't attributions, and would not in any case justify the lack of
>> attribution in the "Final exam question of the day" portion.
>>
>> There didn't seem to be any point in your original post, other than
>> posturing by stealing the text written by others and making it appear as
>> your own.
>
> You are both incorrect as per established standards
> or literacy and writing. The quotation marks (yeah,
> those little tick marks I MADE SURE WERE THERE,
> are sufficient to convey that the information is imported
> from a third source. That is writing 101.
Wrong yet again.
Writing 101 says you state the source.
Here is an example that may be simple enough for you to understand.
According to So And So:
"quouted text"
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Jim Logajan
December 3rd 10, 10:27 PM
Ari Silverstein > wrote:
> You have a point there, Mark(ie)...too bad it sits prominently on your
> head.
Responding to Mark's moronic shadow has always shown you for the dolt that
you are. You, he, and his shadow, are well matched in intellect, maturity,
and personality.
Ari Silverstein
December 3rd 10, 10:33 PM
On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 16:27:45 -0600, Jim Logajan wrote:
> Ari Silverstein > wrote:
>> You have a point there, Mark(ie)...too bad it sits prominently on your
>> head.
>
> Responding to Mark's moronic shadow has always shown you for the dolt that
> you are. You, he, and his shadow, are well matched in intellect, maturity,
> and personality.
Feel free to go **** yourself, you self-righteous assclown.
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Mark.
December 4th 10, 01:29 PM
On Dec 3, 2:56*pm, wrote:
> Bug Dout > wrote:
> > Mark IV > writes:
>
> >> Question: What is the difference between best rate of climb speed and
> >> best angle of climb speed?
>
> >> Answer: The best rate of climb speed, also known as VY, provides the
> >> greatest gain in altitude in the least amount of time. The best angle
> >> of climb speed (also known as VX) provides the greatest gain in
> >> altitude over a given horizontal distance.
>
> > Quibble: I would change the first to:
>
> > The best rate of climb speed, also known as VY, provides the
> > greatest gain in altitude in a unit time (or given time).
>
> You need to quibble with the ePilot flight training edition which is where
> the quote, unattributed of course, came from.
It didn't attribution. It's from the public domaine.
> Had he bothered to quote the entire passage, there would have been a
> reference to a link that gave expanded information.
And the copied link wouldn't have worked, resulting
in a broken like. So I didn't.
> --
> Jim Pennino
>
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Mark.
December 4th 10, 01:39 PM
On Dec 3, 4:57*pm, Jim Logajan > wrote:
> Mark IV > wrote:
> > *1. The displayance of quotation marks
>
> None appear around the "Final exam question of the day".
Yes that's true. I'm so horrible.
> > *2. The author's names who wrote it.
>
> Missing the attribution to AOPA. Even the subject line is a rip-off.
Yes, that's true. Suicide?
> > *3. The internet link to it which is available
> > * * *to me, would only link back to my e mail,
> > * * *not where it originates.
>
> If you had prefaced your post with something like "Here are some useful
> tips from an AOPA ePilot Training Tip e-mail" you wouldn't now have to be
> defending your posting. If you had actually followed some of the links in
> that e-mail you would have found valid internet links where readers could
> find the full text.
If people here didn't **** and moan so much,
then maybe I'd have taken the time to do that.
> > Others
> > may simply take the information and use it for
> > aviation.
>
> Anyone interested could join AOPA and get those e-mails. (I get them.) You
> are not adding any value.
Or...someone just browsing through usenet might
actually see an aviation related post, and be glad
I bothered to put something here on topic.
> > It's not like there's an overwhelming load
> > of it being posted here anyway.
>
> You've copied at least one post of mine in a way that made it appear as
> your own, so don't go using that excuse to ride on the efforts of others.
Yes, and upon examination of that event, it
was both revealed and explanined that not only
was I not plagerizing you...in reality, it was a
compliment to you. Subsequent to that, the same
information came up again, and I went out of my
way to be sure you were given credit.
Quotation marks denote importation from another
source. Giving the authors name attributes who
wrote it. Providing a link...is an internet thing. Yes,
it's a courtesy, but that's the poster's choice. It
isn't a literature violation to omit it, because of
a little thing we call...search engines.
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Mark IV
Mark.
December 4th 10, 01:51 PM
On Dec 3, 5:27*pm, Jim Logajan > wrote:
> Ari Silverstein > wrote:
> > You have a point there, Mark(ie)...too bad it sits prominently on your
> > head.
>
> Responding to Mark's moronic shadow has always shown you for the dolt that
> you are. You, he, and his shadow, are well matched in intellect, maturity,
> and personality.
Jim, he *is the sockpuppet shadow*.
Haven't you ever read this?
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Rec/rec.aviation.piloting/2010-07/msg00204.html
I don't write nonsense.
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Mark IV
Mark.
December 4th 10, 01:54 PM
On Dec 3, 4:57*pm, a > wrote:
[...]
> By the
> way, on a wide runway with a lot of crosswind component start your run
> not on the centerline but more to the downwind edge of the runway,
> when you're within 10 kts or so of takeoff speed you can take some of
> the crosswind component away by turning toward the upwind edge of the
> runway. 100 feet of useful runway width (say on one whose paved width
> is 150 feet) can really change the relative angle of the wind.
[...]
Now that's a good common-sense tip that I've
not heard before.
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Mark IV
Mark.
December 4th 10, 01:59 PM
On Dec 4, 8:29*am, "Mark." > wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2:56*pm, wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Bug Dout > wrote:
> > > Mark IV > writes:
>
> > >> Question: What is the difference between best rate of climb speed and
> > >> best angle of climb speed?
>
> > >> Answer: The best rate of climb speed, also known as VY, provides the
> > >> greatest gain in altitude in the least amount of time. The best angle
> > >> of climb speed (also known as VX) provides the greatest gain in
> > >> altitude over a given horizontal distance.
>
> > > Quibble: I would change the first to:
>
> > > The best rate of climb speed, also known as VY, provides the
> > > greatest gain in altitude in a unit time (or given time).
>
> > You need to quibble with the ePilot flight training edition which is where
> > the quote, unattributed of course, came from.
>
> It didn't attribution. It's from the public domaine.
>
> > Had he bothered to quote the entire passage, there would have been a
> > reference to a link that gave expanded information.
>
> And the copied link wouldn't have worked, resulting
> in a broken like. So I didn't.
>
>
>
> > --
> > Jim Pennin
Corrections
"didn't need attribution"
"in a broken link"
(have to speed type replies to you, as you
have proven to be a waste of my time)
a[_3_]
December 4th 10, 02:30 PM
On Dec 4, 8:54*am, "Mark." > wrote:
> On Dec 3, 4:57*pm, a > wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > By the
> > way, on a wide runway with a lot of crosswind component start your run
> > not on the centerline but more to the downwind edge of the runway,
> > when you're within 10 kts or so of takeoff speed you can take some of
> > the crosswind component away by turning toward the upwind edge of the
> > runway. 100 feet of useful runway width (say on one whose paved width
> > is 150 feet) can really change the relative angle of the wind.
>
> [...]
>
> Now that's a good common-sense tip that I've
> not heard before.
>
> ---
> Mark IV
Something to think about: "the numbers" and "the centerline" are
useful references for CFI's to use when training pilots. As one
becomes more experienced the desired touchdown point on a runway is in
relation to the turn - off you're wanting to use: most of us do that
already. The true sign of a low time or thoughtless or ignorant pilot
is one who touches down within 100 feet of the numbers on a 7000 foot
long runway when the taxiway closest to the FBO desired is at the
other end.
Less appreciated is using the physical width of the runway to one's
advantage. If there's a significant crosswind component my over-the-
ground track is well to the downwind side of a wide runway's
centerline and close to touchdown speed I may turn a little more into
the wind toward the centerline. It's less wear and tear on tires and
more gentle on the airplane. On the other hand, unless you really know
your airplane, don't do it. My M20 and I are good friends, it permits
me to take liberties like these because I know when it's ready to fly
and ready to land.
I'm also the guy who because the Mooney is low wing flies 50 or 100
feet below my assigned altitude as a minor mid-air avoidance
probability reducing technique, ditto being at pattern altitude a mile
or two from the pattern and making minor clearing turns when on the
entry leg at an uncontrolled airport as well: it makes it easier to
see other airplanes higher than me and unlikely to have any lower.
All of these things and countless others probably add up to a
marginally safer flight: at least it's evidence there's some thinking
going on. I don't want to fly 'by rote'.
December 4th 10, 06:43 PM
Mark. > wrote:
> If people here didn't **** and moan so much,
> then maybe I'd have taken the time to do that.
Yeah, it is everyone else's fault you are a blustering, babbling, twit.
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December 4th 10, 06:48 PM
Mark. > wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2:56Â*pm, wrote:
>> You need to quibble with the ePilot flight training edition which is where
>> the quote, unattributed of course, came from.
>
> It didn't attribution. It's from the public domaine.
No, it is not, you lieing sack of crap.
It is copyright 2010 by the AOPA.
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Mark.[_2_]
December 4th 10, 08:00 PM
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 18:43:41 -0000, wrote:
> Mark. > wrote:
>
>> If people here didn't **** and moan so much,
>> then maybe I'd have taken the time to do that.
>
> Yeah, it is everyone else's fault you are a blustering, babbling, twit.
Jim, he is the sockpuppet shadow, blither, blather, bloviate...
Haven't you ever stroked this?
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Mark IV
Ari Silverstein
December 4th 10, 08:00 PM
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 05:29:02 -0800 (PST), Mark. wrote:
> It didn't attribution. It's from the public domaine.
"domain"
LOL
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Ari Silverstein
December 4th 10, 08:01 PM
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 05:29:02 -0800 (PST), Mark. wrote:
> And the copied link wouldn't have worked, resulting
> in a broken like.
"link"
LOL
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Ted Sherman
December 4th 10, 08:02 PM
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 05:59:12 -0800 (PST), Mark. wrote:
>>> Jim Pennin
>
> (have to speed type replies to you, as you
> have proven to be a waste of my time which is why
> I keep typing. I don't post nonsense.)
OoooooooooooooK
Mark.
December 4th 10, 11:26 PM
On Dec 4, 1:48*pm, wrote:
> Mark. > wrote:
> > On Dec 3, 2:56*pm, wrote:
> >> You need to quibble with the ePilot flight training edition which is where
> >> the quote, unattributed of course, came from.
>
> > It didn't attribution. It's from the public domaine.
>
> No, it is not, you lieing sack of crap.
>
> It is copyright 2010 by the AOPA.
>
> --
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>
> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
What's lieing?
The definition of Vx and Vy is in the public
domain. That was what I didn't use quotation marks on.
Crybaby.
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Mark IV
December 5th 10, 12:03 AM
Mark. > wrote:
> On Dec 4, 1:48Â*pm, wrote:
>> Mark. > wrote:
>> > On Dec 3, 2:56Â*pm, wrote:
>> >> You need to quibble with the ePilot flight training edition which is where
>> >> the quote, unattributed of course, came from.
>>
>> > It didn't attribution. It's from the public domaine.
>>
>> No, it is not, you lieing sack of crap.
>>
>> It is copyright 2010 by the AOPA.
>>
>> --
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>>
>> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>
> What's lieing?
>
> The definition of Vx and Vy is in the public
> domain. That was what I didn't use quotation marks on.
>
> Crybaby.
Babbling idiot.
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Mark.
December 5th 10, 11:01 AM
On Dec 4, 7:03*pm, wrote:
> > The definition of Vx and Vy is in the public
> > domain. That was what I didn't use quotation marks on.
>
> > Crybaby.
>
> Babbling idiot.
> ,
> --
> Jim Pennino
You cannot defend yourself with facts, nor
do you properly interpret scenerios, FAR's,
or presentations of technology. Instead you
resort to "snipping" and name calling.
That's on you dude, not me.
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Mark IV
December 5th 10, 06:46 PM
Mark. > wrote:
> On Dec 4, 7:03Â*pm, wrote:
>
>> > The definition of Vx and Vy is in the public
>> > domain. That was what I didn't use quotation marks on.
>>
>> > Crybaby.
>>
>> Babbling idiot.
>> ,
>> --
>> Jim Pennino
>
> You cannot defend yourself with facts, nor
> do you properly interpret scenerios, FAR's,
> or presentations of technology. Instead you
> resort to "snipping" and name calling.
I have nothing to defend.
You are the one that blatantly plagiarized copyright AOPA material then
lied and said they material is in the public domain.
Then you tried to shift the focus by claiming a few of the words in the
material are in the public domain.
No matter how you try to squirm out of it, you plagiarized copyright
material.
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Jim Pennino
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