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Mark.
December 4th 10, 02:26 PM
http://news.discovery.com/space/secret-mini-shuttle-lands-in-california.html

"Shrouded by darkness, the military’s miniature space shuttle -- a
unmanned robotic craft -- returned early Friday from a trial run in
orbit that spanned 224 days."

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Mark IV

Mark.
December 4th 10, 02:39 PM
On Dec 4, 9:26*am, "Mark." > wrote:
> http://news.discovery.com/space/secret-mini-shuttle-lands-in-californ...
>
> "Shrouded by darkness, the military’s miniature space shuttle -- a
> unmanned robotic craft -- returned early Friday from a trial run in
> orbit that spanned 224 days."
>
> ---
> Mark IV

"Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle
orbiters, the X-37B is powered by gallium arsenide solar cells with
lithium-ion batteries."

WHAT DID THEY JUST SAY? Now they're
using solar cells and lithium-ion batteries?!

Who predicted that?

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Mark IV

December 4th 10, 06:54 PM
Mark. > wrote:
> On Dec 4, 9:26Â*am, "Mark." > wrote:
>> http://news.discovery.com/space/secret-mini-shuttle-lands-in-californ...
>>
>> "Shrouded by darkness, the military’s miniature space shuttle -- a
>> unmanned robotic craft -- returned early Friday from a trial run in
>> orbit that spanned 224 days."
>>
>> ---
>> Mark IV
>
> "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle
> orbiters, the X-37B is powered by gallium arsenide solar cells with
> lithium-ion batteries."
>
> WHAT DID THEY JUST SAY? Now they're
> using solar cells and lithium-ion batteries?!
>
> Who predicted that?

Since spacecraft have been using solar cells and rechargable batteries for
about a half a century now, it would be hard to say who predicted such a
thing.

Though your dim little mind probably thinks they are running the engines
of a spacecraft with electricity.


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Mark.[_2_]
December 4th 10, 07:55 PM
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 18:54:32 -0000, wrote:

> Mark. > wrote:
>> On Dec 4, 9:26*am, "Mark." > wrote:
>>> http://news.discovery.com/space/secret-mini-shuttle-lands-in-californ...
>>>
>>> "Shrouded by darkness, the military¢s miniature space shuttle -- a
>>> unmanned robotic craft -- returned early Friday from a trial run in
>>> orbit that spanned 224 days."
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Mark IV
>>
>> "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle
>> orbiters, the X-37B is powered by gallium arsenide solar cells with
>> lithium-ion batteries."
>>
>> WHAT DID THEY JUST SAY? Now they're
>> using solar cells and lithium-ion batteries?!
>>
>> Who predicted that?
>
> Since spacecraft have been using solar cells and rechargable batteries for
> about a half a century now, it would be hard to say who predicted such a
> thing.
>
> Though your dim little mind probably thinks they are running the engines
> of a spacecraft with electricity.

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Mark.
December 4th 10, 11:16 PM
On Dec 4, 1:54*pm, wrote:
> Mark. > wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 9:26*am, "Mark." > wrote:
> >>http://news.discovery.com/space/secret-mini-shuttle-lands-in-californ....
>
> >> "Shrouded by darkness, the military’s miniature space shuttle -- a
> >> unmanned robotic craft -- returned early Friday from a trial run in
> >> orbit that spanned 224 days."
>
> >> ---
> >> Mark IV
>
> > "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle
> > orbiters, the X-37B is powered by gallium arsenide solar cells with
> > lithium-ion batteries."
>
> > WHAT DID THEY JUST SAY? *Now they're
> > using solar cells and lithium-ion batteries?!
>
> > Who predicted that?
>
> Since spacecraft have been using solar cells and rechargable batteries for
> about a half a century now, it would be hard to say who predicted such a
> thing.
>
> Though your dim little mind probably thinks they are running the engines
> of a spacecraft with electricity.

OPERATIVE PHRASE:

"Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle
orbiters,"

(other reply is ari-troll, not me)

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Mark IV

December 5th 10, 12:09 AM
Mark. > wrote:
> On Dec 4, 1:54Â*pm, wrote:
>> Mark. > wrote:
>> > On Dec 4, 9:26Â*am, "Mark." > wrote:
>> >>http://news.discovery.com/space/secret-mini-shuttle-lands-in-californ...
>>
>> >> "Shrouded by darkness, the military’s miniature space shuttle -- a
>> >> unmanned robotic craft -- returned early Friday from a trial run in
>> >> orbit that spanned 224 days."
>>
>> >> ---
>> >> Mark IV
>>
>> > "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle
>> > orbiters, the X-37B is powered by gallium arsenide solar cells with
>> > lithium-ion batteries."
>>
>> > WHAT DID THEY JUST SAY? Â*Now they're
>> > using solar cells and lithium-ion batteries?!
>>
>> > Who predicted that?
>>
>> Since spacecraft have been using solar cells and rechargable batteries for
>> about a half a century now, it would be hard to say who predicted such a
>> thing.
>>
>> Though your dim little mind probably thinks they are running the engines
>> of a spacecraft with electricity.
>
> OPERATIVE PHRASE:
>
> "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle
> orbiters,"
>
> (other reply is ari-troll, not me)
>
> ---
> Mark IV

It is a military project, which means the goals, conciderations, design
contraints, economics, and everything else has little in common with a
civilian project.


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Jay Honeck[_13_]
December 5th 10, 03:44 AM
So, Jim -- what's the mission of this thing?
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On Dec 4, 6:09*pm, wrote:
> Mark. > wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 1:54*pm, wrote:
> >> Mark. > wrote:
> >> > On Dec 4, 9:26*am, "Mark." > wrote:
> >> >>http://news.discovery.com/space/secret-mini-shuttle-lands-in-californ...
>
> >> >> "Shrouded by darkness, the military’s miniature space shuttle -- a
> >> >> unmanned robotic craft -- returned early Friday from a trial run in
> >> >> orbit that spanned 224 days."
>
> >> >> ---
> >> >> Mark IV
>
> >> > "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle
> >> > orbiters, the X-37B is powered by gallium arsenide solar cells with
> >> > lithium-ion batteries."
>
> >> > WHAT DID THEY JUST SAY? *Now they're
> >> > using solar cells and lithium-ion batteries?!
>
> >> > Who predicted that?
>
> >> Since spacecraft have been using solar cells and rechargable batteries for
> >> about a half a century now, it would be hard to say who predicted such a
> >> thing.
>
> >> Though your dim little mind probably thinks they are running the engines
> >> of a spacecraft with electricity.
>
> > OPERATIVE PHRASE:
>
> > "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle
> > orbiters,"
>
> > (other reply is ari-troll, not me)
>
> > ---
> > Mark IV
>
> It is a military project, which means the goals, conciderations, design
> contraints, economics, and everything else has little in common with a
> civilian project.
>
> --
> Jim Pennino
>
> Remove .spam.sux to reply.

December 5th 10, 05:29 AM
Jay Honeck > wrote:
> So, Jim -- what's the mission of this thing?

The offical mission is to "demonstrate a reliable, reusable, unmanned space
test platform for the U.S. Air Force".

http://www.af.mil/information/factsheets/factsheet.asp?fsID=16639


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Mark.
December 5th 10, 10:54 AM
On Dec 4, 7:09*pm, wrote:
> Mark. > wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 1:54*pm, wrote:
> >> Mark. > wrote:
> >> > On Dec 4, 9:26*am, "Mark." > wrote:
> >> >>http://news.discovery.com/space/secret-mini-shuttle-lands-in-californ...
>
> >> >> "Shrouded by darkness, the military’s miniature space shuttle -- a
> >> >> unmanned robotic craft -- returned early Friday from a trial run in
> >> >> orbit that spanned 224 days."
>
> >> >> ---
> >> >> Mark IV
>
> >> > "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle
> >> > orbiters, the X-37B is powered by gallium arsenide solar cells with
> >> > lithium-ion batteries."
>
> >> > WHAT DID THEY JUST SAY? *Now they're
> >> > using solar cells and lithium-ion batteries?!
>
> >> > Who predicted that?
>
> >> Since spacecraft have been using solar cells and rechargable batteries for
> >> about a half a century now, it would be hard to say who predicted such a
> >> thing.
>
> >> Though your dim little mind probably thinks they are running the engines
> >> of a spacecraft with electricity.
>
> > OPERATIVE PHRASE:
>
> > "Rather than hydrogen-oxygen fuel cells like the space shuttle
> > orbiters,"
>
> > (other reply is ari-troll, not me)
>
> > ---
> > Mark IV
>
> It is a military project, which means the goals, conciderations, design
> contraints, economics, and everything else has little in common with a
> civilian project.
>
> --
> Jim Pennino
>
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Valid points within reason. By virtue of the fact that it
*is* military, right off the bat we know that cost has a far
different priority. The military can not only spend more due
to the fact that they won't go out of business, but they WILL
spend more due to nepotism. Cost overruns are business
as usual.

Goals and considerations are what they are. Spying.
So no, if it were civilian you'd not have the equipment
aboard for that.

Designs constraints? Flight is flight. If a civilian group
wanted a reuseable orbital with autonomous reentry
the design wouldn't have "little in common". It looks
just like the space shuttle, but smaller. That's why
it's called the "minishuttle" by the press.

But among the "technologies to be tested", we see...
"lightweight electromechanical flight systems".

That wouldn't be something done for half a century,
or it wouldn't be technologies to be tested.

So your "dim witted" comment would be best done to
the mirror, or better yet...not at all.

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Mark IV

Ari Silverstein
December 5th 10, 09:29 PM
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010 02:54:29 -0800 (PST), Mark. wrote:

> Valid points within reason. By virtue of the fact that it
> *is* military, right off the bat we know that cost has a far
> different priority. The military can not only spend more due
> to the fact that they won't go out of business, but they WILL
> spend more due to nepotism. Cost overruns are business
> as usual.

Bull**** and proof that you have never been involved in a Prime
Contractor relationship with the miliary.

Stupid git.

That you are.

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Mark.[_2_]
December 5th 10, 09:33 PM
On Sun, 5 Dec 2010 16:29:26 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:

> On Sun, 5 Dec 2010 02:54:29 -0800 (PST), Mark. wrote:
>
>> Valid points within reason. By virtue of the fact that it
>> *is* military, right off the bat we know that cost has a far
>> different priority. The military can not only spend more due
>> to the fact that they won't go out of business, but they WILL
>> spend more due to nepotism. Cost overruns are business
>> as usual.
>
> Bull**** and proof that you have never been involved in a Prime
> Contractor relationship with the miliary.
>
> Stupid git.
>
> That you are.

I've since moved on to guitars, turbojets, alternative energy, and
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and swimming pool industry.

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G Paleologopoulos
December 6th 10, 06:30 AM
"Ari Silverstein" > wrote
...
>
> On Sun, 5 Dec 2010 02:54:29 -0800 (PST), Mark. wrote:
>
>> Valid points within reason. By virtue of the fact that it
>> *is* military, right off the bat we know that cost has a far
>> different priority. The military can not only spend more due
>> to the fact that they won't go out of business, but they WILL
>> spend more due to nepotism. Cost overruns are business
>> as usual.
>
> Bull**** and proof that you have never been involved in a Prime
> Contractor relationship with the miliary.
>
> Stupid git.
>
> That you are.


That's telling him, Ari!
You really know the ins-and-outs of the military procurement processes!
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ari Silverstein
December 6th 10, 10:28 PM
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 08:30:10 +0200, G Paleologopoulos wrote:

> "Ari Silverstein" > wrote
> ...
>>
>> On Sun, 5 Dec 2010 02:54:29 -0800 (PST), Mark. wrote:
>>
>>> Valid points within reason. By virtue of the fact that it
>>> *is* military, right off the bat we know that cost has a far
>>> different priority. The military can not only spend more due
>>> to the fact that they won't go out of business, but they WILL
>>> spend more due to nepotism. Cost overruns are business
>>> as usual.
>>
>> Bull**** and proof that you have never been involved in a Prime
>> Contractor relationship with the miliary.
>>
>> Stupid git.
>>
>> That you are.
>
> That's telling him, Ari!
> You really know the ins-and-outs of the military procurement processes!

Got that right.

Care to match wits? Eh?
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Brian Whatcott
December 7th 10, 12:27 AM
On 12/4/2010 9:44 PM, Jay Honeck wrote:
> So, Jim -- what's the mission of this thing?
> --
> Jay Honeck

That's a leading question - which you will not find answered definitively.
The vessel has however changed orbit several times, so exercising the
ready reconnaissance mode is a fair bet. Another likely objective
was to find how long it was reasonable to expect a mission to last.
There was a suggestion of "up to nine months" at one point.
Then there's the "check out the other guys' satellites."
(Yep, the military DOES watch the movies - including Bond, James Bond,
and the satellite that swallows satellites.)
Last but not least, porting a high power laser weapon into orbit for trials.

Brian W

Ari Silverstein
December 8th 10, 05:49 PM
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 17:28:24 -0500, Ari Silverstein wrote:

> On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 08:30:10 +0200, G Paleologopoulos wrote:
>
>> "Ari Silverstein" > wrote
>> ...
>>>
>>> On Sun, 5 Dec 2010 02:54:29 -0800 (PST), Mark. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Valid points within reason. By virtue of the fact that it
>>>> *is* military, right off the bat we know that cost has a far
>>>> different priority. The military can not only spend more due
>>>> to the fact that they won't go out of business, but they WILL
>>>> spend more due to nepotism. Cost overruns are business
>>>> as usual.
>>>
>>> Bull**** and proof that you have never been involved in a Prime
>>> Contractor relationship with the miliary.
>>>
>>> Stupid git.
>>>
>>> That you are.
>>
>> That's telling him, Ari!
>> You really know the ins-and-outs of the military procurement processes!
>
> Got that right.
>
> Care to match wits? Eh?

No?

What a surprise, a drive-by moron.
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