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Mike the Strike
December 17th 10, 04:06 AM
While browsing all the various international racing rules to get ideas
for our upcoming soaring camp, I came across the FAI's 39-page
treatise on performance enhancing drugs, including the testing
criteria.
As an old geezer who doesn't fly cross-country nearly as fast as I
could (some call me Captain Slow), I was captivated by the idea that
there are drugs that can enhance the performance of a glider pilot.
Obviously a sufficiently severe problem that needs 39 pages of rule-
making!
What are they and where can I get them?
Obviously not alcohol - ruins your reaction time and you fly like
cr@p, but you don't know it.
Not marijuana either - also ruins your reaction time - except you know
it, but don't care.
Perhaps chewing coca leaves to improve oxygen uptake at high
altitudes? (Oxygen is cheaper)
I can't really think of any - so what is this severe problem that
needs the 39 pages of rules?
Mike
Brad[_2_]
December 17th 10, 04:13 AM
On Dec 16, 8:06*pm, Mike the Strike > wrote:
> While browsing all the various international racing rules to get ideas
> for our upcoming soaring camp, I came across the FAI's 39-page
> treatise on performance enhancing drugs, including the testing
> criteria.
>
> As an old geezer who doesn't fly cross-country nearly as fast as I
> could (some call me Captain Slow), I was captivated by the idea that
> there are drugs that can enhance the performance of a glider pilot.
> Obviously a sufficiently severe problem that needs 39 pages of rule-
> making!
>
> What are they and where can I get them?
>
> Obviously not alcohol - ruins your reaction time and you fly like
> cr@p, but you don't know it.
> Not marijuana either - also ruins your reaction time - except you know
> it, but don't care.
>
> Perhaps chewing coca leaves to improve oxygen uptake at high
> altitudes? (Oxygen is cheaper)
>
> I can't really think of any - so what is this severe problem that
> needs the 39 pages of rules?
>
> Mike
sounds like a job for Governor Ventura!
Brad
Basil
December 17th 10, 08:39 AM
One of them is a drug that many older glider pilots are already on.
Beta blockers, prescribed for heart conditions. They make you calmer
under stress, too calm in some situations.
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:06:29 -0800 (PST), Mike the Strike
> wrote:
>While browsing all the various international racing rules to get ideas
>for our upcoming soaring camp, I came across the FAI's 39-page
>treatise on performance enhancing drugs, including the testing
>criteria.
>
>As an old geezer who doesn't fly cross-country nearly as fast as I
>could (some call me Captain Slow), I was captivated by the idea that
>there are drugs that can enhance the performance of a glider pilot.
>Obviously a sufficiently severe problem that needs 39 pages of rule-
>making!
>
>What are they and where can I get them?
>
>Obviously not alcohol - ruins your reaction time and you fly like
>cr@p, but you don't know it.
>Not marijuana either - also ruins your reaction time - except you know
>it, but don't care.
>
>Perhaps chewing coca leaves to improve oxygen uptake at high
>altitudes? (Oxygen is cheaper)
>
>I can't really think of any - so what is this severe problem that
>needs the 39 pages of rules?
>
>Mike
Raphael Warshaw[_2_]
December 17th 10, 01:02 PM
On Dec 16, 11:06*pm, Mike the Strike > wrote:
> While browsing all the various international racing rules to get ideas
> for our upcoming soaring camp, I came across the FAI's 39-page
> treatise on performance enhancing drugs, including the testing
> criteria.
>
> As an old geezer who doesn't fly cross-country nearly as fast as I
> could (some call me Captain Slow), I was captivated by the idea that
> there are drugs that can enhance the performance of a glider pilot.
> Obviously a sufficiently severe problem that needs 39 pages of rule-
> making!
>
> What are they and where can I get them?
>
> Obviously not alcohol - ruins your reaction time and you fly like
> cr@p, but you don't know it.
> Not marijuana either - also ruins your reaction time - except you know
> it, but don't care.
>
> Perhaps chewing coca leaves to improve oxygen uptake at high
> altitudes? (Oxygen is cheaper)
>
> I can't really think of any - so what is this severe problem that
> needs the 39 pages of rules?
>
> Mike
Hi Mike,
There are some compounds out there in DARPA-land that do measurably
inhance human performance in areas not covered by Viagra, at least in
the short term. It's the long term you have to worry about when
taking them though. Of course for us old geezers that's less of a
problem than it would be for the kiddies. I suspect that most of
these new goodies are undetectable (or even looked for) in the current
drug-testing regimes.
FWIW,
Ray Warshaw
1LK
Ralph Jones[_3_]
December 17th 10, 03:34 PM
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 20:06:29 -0800 (PST), Mike the Strike
> wrote:
>While browsing all the various international racing rules to get ideas
>for our upcoming soaring camp, I came across the FAI's 39-page
>treatise on performance enhancing drugs, including the testing
>criteria.
>
>As an old geezer who doesn't fly cross-country nearly as fast as I
>could (some call me Captain Slow), I was captivated by the idea that
>there are drugs that can enhance the performance of a glider pilot.
>Obviously a sufficiently severe problem that needs 39 pages of rule-
>making!
>
>What are they and where can I get them?
>
>Obviously not alcohol - ruins your reaction time and you fly like
>cr@p, but you don't know it.
>Not marijuana either - also ruins your reaction time - except you know
>it, but don't care.
>
>Perhaps chewing coca leaves to improve oxygen uptake at high
>altitudes? (Oxygen is cheaper)
>
>I can't really think of any - so what is this severe problem that
>needs the 39 pages of rules?
>
>Mike
Something that would help an old fart go four or five hours witrhout
taking a leak?
rj
Paul Cordell
December 17th 10, 05:25 PM
I rely on the Old standbys, Sugar, Caffeine, Protein and Water. Why
mess with a good thing!
Paul
Bob Kuykendall
December 17th 10, 05:40 PM
Performance-enhancing substance?
Carbon.
And a sawzall.
Gary Boggs
December 17th 10, 06:07 PM
So now there is something that will help us keep it up longer and make
our equipment bigger? What a surprize!
You never know when an ordinary day might just turn into a boomer, so
be prepared, take liftsallot once daily. Your glider will thank
you...
Boggs
December 17th 10, 06:25 PM
On Dec 16, 11:06*pm, Mike the Strike > wrote:
> While browsing all the various international racing rules to get ideas
> for our upcoming soaring camp, I came across the FAI's 39-page
> treatise on performance enhancing drugs, including the testing
> criteria.
>
> As an old geezer who doesn't fly cross-country nearly as fast as I
> could (some call me Captain Slow), I was captivated by the idea that
> there are drugs that can enhance the performance of a glider pilot.
> Obviously a sufficiently severe problem that needs 39 pages of rule-
> making!
>
> What are they and where can I get them?
>
> Obviously not alcohol - ruins your reaction time and you fly like
> cr@p, but you don't know it.
> Not marijuana either - also ruins your reaction time - except you know
> it, but don't care.
>
> Perhaps chewing coca leaves to improve oxygen uptake at high
> altitudes? (Oxygen is cheaper)
>
> I can't really think of any - so what is this severe problem that
> needs the 39 pages of rules?
>
> Mike
Fresh air and sunshine. Makes even us old guys feel better.
UH
Brad[_2_]
December 17th 10, 06:34 PM
On Dec 17, 5:02*am, Raphael Warshaw > wrote:
> On Dec 16, 11:06*pm, Mike the Strike > wrote:
>
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>
>
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>
> > While browsing all the various international racing rules to get ideas
> > for our upcoming soaring camp, I came across the FAI's 39-page
> > treatise on performance enhancing drugs, including the testing
> > criteria.
>
> > As an old geezer who doesn't fly cross-country nearly as fast as I
> > could (some call me Captain Slow), I was captivated by the idea that
> > there are drugs that can enhance the performance of a glider pilot.
> > Obviously a sufficiently severe problem that needs 39 pages of rule-
> > making!
>
> > What are they and where can I get them?
>
> > Obviously not alcohol - ruins your reaction time and you fly like
> > cr@p, but you don't know it.
> > Not marijuana either - also ruins your reaction time - except you know
> > it, but don't care.
>
> > Perhaps chewing coca leaves to improve oxygen uptake at high
> > altitudes? (Oxygen is cheaper)
>
> > I can't really think of any - so what is this severe problem that
> > needs the 39 pages of rules?
>
> > Mike
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> There are some compounds out there in DARPA-land that do measurably
> inhance human performance in areas not covered by Viagra, at least in
> the short term. *It's the long term you have to worry about when
> taking them though. *Of course for us old geezers that's less of a
> problem than it would be for the kiddies. *I suspect that most of
> these new goodies are undetectable (or even looked for) in the current
> drug-testing regimes.
>
> FWIW,
>
> Ray Warshaw
> 1LK
yes, for soaring flights lasting over 4 hours, call your Dr.
immediately and seek the nearest LZ.
Brad
December 18th 10, 04:51 AM
http://www.provigil.com/
Good enough for fighter pilots. As someone else pointed out given the
age of most glider pilots some of them are likely to be on a banned
substance for an unrelated malady.
Jim Beckman[_2_]
December 18th 10, 12:03 PM
At 17:25 17 December 2010, Paul Cordell wrote:
>
>I rely on the Old standbys, Sugar, Caffeine, Protein and Water. Why
>mess with a good thing!
How about nicotine? I remember, back in the day, a few guys who regularly
smoked while they flew. Does anybody still do that these days?
Jim Beckman
Jim Beckman[_2_]
December 18th 10, 12:13 PM
At 18:07 17 December 2010, GARY BOGGS wrote:
>So now there is something that will help us keep it up longer and make
>our equipment bigger?
Can they guarantee we'll be able to stay up for over four hours? If so,
I wouldn't even call my doctor. He'd probably be out flying anyway.
Jim Beckman
John Godfrey (QT)[_2_]
December 18th 10, 01:23 PM
On Dec 18, 7:13*am, Jim Beckman > wrote:
> At 18:07 17 December 2010, GARY BOGGS wrote:
>
> >So now there is something that will help us keep it up longer and make
> >our equipment bigger? *
>
> Can they guarantee we'll be able to stay up for over four hours? *If so,
> I wouldn't even call my doctor. *He'd probably be out flying anyway.
>
> Jim Beckman
Somewhere out there, there is some drug company person who
(legitimately) has on the their resume: "I convinced the FDA to
REQUIRE the following warning on Viagra - 'If your erection lasts over
4 hours...'" Talk about marking coups...
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