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Deltasierra
February 7th 11, 05:22 PM
The proposed Sports Class Handicaps for 2011 are now available for
viewing on
the SSA Website: http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=6242029070. The
site
shows "Current Sailplane Handicaps" which include proposed updates for
2011.
Please submit comments & questions prior to February 21, directed to
me at
(please include a telephone #), as I am not
monitoring RAS.

David Stevenson

Andy[_1_]
February 7th 11, 10:19 PM
On Feb 7, 10:22*am, Deltasierra > wrote:
> The proposed Sports Class Handicaps for 2011 are now available for
> viewing on
> the SSA Website: *http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=6242029070. The
> site
> shows "Current Sailplane Handicaps" which include proposed updates for
> 2011.
> Please submit comments & questions prior to February 21, directed to
> me at
> (please include a telephone #), as I am not
> monitoring RAS.
>
> David Stevenson

It's not immediately obvious from the posting but it seem you have to
download the Excel file and then filter on the change date to find the
recent changes.

Of immediate interest to me is the change for LS-8, Discus, and
ASW-28. It's going to make it just a bit harder to beat the 15m guys
in our handicap club series. Here are the 2011 changes I extracted
but it may not format very well.

Andy

AB Sportine Aviacija LAK-12 20.4 1059 0.865 1/13/2011 18:09
AMS Flight Carat A 15 1035 MR 1.07 1/13/2011 19:04
AMS Flight Carat A 15 1038 MWR 1.06 1/13/2011 17:16
Centrair ASW-20F 15 838 C 0.913 1/13/2011 17:27
Fournier RF-5B M 1/14/2011 14:19
Glasflugel 604-22 22 1257 0.865 1/13/2011 18:10
Glasflugel 604-23.5 23.5 1270 0.835 1/13/2011 18:11
Niedrauer NG-1 15.3 800 1.24 2/7/2011 11:51
Rolladen-Schneider LS-8-15 15 820 SW 0.915 2/6/2011 21:10
Schempp-Hirth Discus 2a 15 790 SW 0.915 2/6/2011 21:21
Schempp-Hirth Discus 2b 15 790 S 0.925 2/6/2011 21:22
Schempp-Hirth Discus 2b 15 800 SW 0.915 2/6/2011 21:21
Schleicher ASG-29-15 15 864 W 0.88 2/6/2011 22:02
Schleicher ASG-29-18 18 883 W 0.855 1/13/2011 18:16
Schleicher ASW-28 15 778 SW 0.915 2/6/2011 21:08

Wayne Paul
February 12th 11, 03:17 PM
Wow! The handicaps on the Schreder sailplane series sure has changed! A couple years ago a HP18 had a handicap of 1.063 and this year it is 0.99. The HP16, RS15 moved from 1.063 to 1.03. My HP14 has changed from 1.034 to 1.01. Even the old HP-11 which was 1.09 for almost 50 years is now 1.04.

Wayne
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder



"Andy" > wrote in message ...
On Feb 7, 10:22 am, Deltasierra > wrote:
> The proposed Sports Class Handicaps for 2011 are now available for
> viewing on
> the SSA Website: http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=6242029070. The
> site
> shows "Current Sailplane Handicaps" which include proposed updates for
> 2011.
> Please submit comments & questions prior to February 21, directed to
> me at
> (please include a telephone #), as I am not
> monitoring RAS.
>
> David Stevenson

It's not immediately obvious from the posting but it seem you have to
download the Excel file and then filter on the change date to find the
recent changes.

Of immediate interest to me is the change for LS-8, Discus, and
ASW-28. It's going to make it just a bit harder to beat the 15m guys
in our handicap club series. Here are the 2011 changes I extracted
but it may not format very well.

Andy

AB Sportine Aviacija LAK-12 20.4 1059 0.865 1/13/2011 18:09
AMS Flight Carat A 15 1035 MR 1.07 1/13/2011 19:04
AMS Flight Carat A 15 1038 MWR 1.06 1/13/2011 17:16
Centrair ASW-20F 15 838 C 0.913 1/13/2011 17:27
Fournier RF-5B M 1/14/2011 14:19
Glasflugel 604-22 22 1257 0.865 1/13/2011 18:10
Glasflugel 604-23.5 23.5 1270 0.835 1/13/2011 18:11
Niedrauer NG-1 15.3 800 1.24 2/7/2011 11:51
Rolladen-Schneider LS-8-15 15 820 SW 0.915 2/6/2011 21:10
Schempp-Hirth Discus 2a 15 790 SW 0.915 2/6/2011 21:21
Schempp-Hirth Discus 2b 15 790 S 0.925 2/6/2011 21:22
Schempp-Hirth Discus 2b 15 800 SW 0.915 2/6/2011 21:21
Schleicher ASG-29-15 15 864 W 0.88 2/6/2011 22:02
Schleicher ASG-29-18 18 883 W 0.855 1/13/2011 18:16
Schleicher ASW-28 15 778 SW 0.915 2/6/2011 21:08

John Cochrane[_2_]
February 14th 11, 02:42 AM
On Feb 7, 4:19*pm, Andy > wrote:
> On Feb 7, 10:22*am, Deltasierra > wrote:
>
> > The proposed Sports Class Handicaps for 2011 are now available for
> > viewing on
> > the SSA Website: *http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=6242029070. The
> > site
> > shows "Current Sailplane Handicaps" which include proposed updates for
> > 2011.
> > Please submit comments & questions prior to February 21, directed to
> > me at
> > (please include a telephone #), as I am not
> > monitoring RAS.
>
> > David Stevenson
>
> It's not immediately obvious from the posting but it seem you have to
> download the Excel file and then filter on the change date to find the
> recent changes.
>
> Of immediate interest to me is the change for LS-8, Discus, and
> ASW-28. *It's going to make it just a bit harder to beat the 15m guys
> in our handicap club series. *Here are the 2011 changes I extracted
> but it may not format very well.
>
> Andy
>
> AB Sportine Aviacija * *LAK-12 *20.4 * *1059 * * * * * *0.865 * 1/13/2011 18:09
> AMS Flight * * *Carat A 15 * * *1035 * *MR * * *1.07 * *1/13/2011 19:04
> AMS Flight * * *Carat A 15 * * *1038 * *MWR * * 1.06 * *1/13/2011 17:16
> Centrair * * * *ASW-20F 15 * * *838 * * C * * * 0..913 * 1/13/2011 17:27
> Fournier * * * *RF-5B * * * * * * * * * M * * * * * * * 1/14/2011 14:19
> Glasflugel * * *604-22 *22 * * *1257 * * * * * *0.865 * 1/13/2011 18:10
> Glasflugel * * *604-23.5 * * * *23.5 * *1270 * * * * * *0.835 * 1/13/2011 18:11
> Niedrauer * * * NG-1 * *15.3 * *800 * * * * * * 1.24 * *2/7/2011 11:51
> Rolladen-Schneider * * *LS-8-15 15 * * *820 * * SW * * *0.915 * 2/6/2011 21:10
> Schempp-Hirth * Discus 2a * * * 15 * * *790 * * SW * * *0.915 * 2/6/2011 21:21
> Schempp-Hirth * Discus 2b * * * 15 * * *790 * * S * * * 0.925 * 2/6/2011 21:22
> Schempp-Hirth * Discus 2b * * * 15 * * *800 * * SW * * *0.915 * 2/6/2011 21:21
> Schleicher * * *ASG-29-15 * * * 15 * * *864 * * W * * * 0.88 * *2/6/2011 22:02
> Schleicher * * *ASG-29-18 * * * 18 * * *883 * * W * * * 0.855 * 1/13/2011 18:16
> Schleicher * * *ASW-28 *15 * * *778 * * SW * * *0..915 * 2/6/2011 21:08

On the other hand, the gap of 0.88 to 0.925 between ASW27 and D2/28
was surely too big, so bringing standard up to 0.915 seems pretty
reasonable.
Anyone with a 604 at 23.5 with 0.835 should get a saw and cut it down
to 22 / 0.865
John Cochrane

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