Curtiss Pusher Model D

A couple friends and I are planning to build a 1911 Curtiss. We acquired
plans from the Curtiss Museum a number of years ago and hope to finally get
started soon. While the plans are quite detailed in some ways, there are
many things that are not specified. Even the type of wood used is not shown
on the plans as well as the type of fabric and "dope" used. We'd like to be
consistent to the original design as much as possible but realize there
will have to some compromises. One of my partners is a machinist and has a
radial engine rebuilding business (Holloway Engineering- Quincy, CA) so he
will be fabricating all metal parts and has an OX5 engine on hand so those
problems are already handled.

I'm wondering if there are any RAHers who have been involved in a project
like this and would be willing to offer some of those answers. Any helpful
suggestions will certainly be appreciated.
Al Hansen

[Corky Scott]

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:21:29 GMT, > wrote:

One of my partners is a machinist and has a
>radial engine rebuilding business (Holloway Engineering- Quincy, CA) so he
>will be fabricating all metal parts and has an OX5 engine on hand so those
>problems are already handled.
>
>I'm wondering if there are any RAHers who have been involved in a project
>like this and would be willing to offer some of those answers. Any helpful
>suggestions will certainly be appreciated.
>Al Hansen

Al, I realise that you can't be 100% accurate in your reproduction but
I have a question about the use of the OX5 engine. The "Official
Website" for the OX5 puts it's creation sometime in 1913, and it was
used in civil and military aircraft from 1913 to 1918.

I guess having an OX5 is interesting enough, but what did the Curtis
Pusher Model D actually use for an engine 1911?

Thanks, Corky Scott

[BernadetteTS]

In article >,
> wrote:

> A couple friends and I are planning to build a 1911 Curtiss.
> One of my partners is a machinist and has a
> radial engine rebuilding business (Holloway Engineering- Quincy, CA) so he
> will be fabricating all metal parts and has an OX5 engine on hand so those
> problems are already handled.
> Al Hansen
>
So it would look like this one;
http://vulaorg.vws0104.fast.net/pictures2/earlyplanes/beacheylincoln.jpg

Somewhere in storage I have a 25 year old set of plans for a Raynor
Pusher. Please don't ask me to find them. We put the contents of a 4
bedroom farmhouse into a 20X40 foot storage room and they are in there
somewhere. I won't be unpacking it for another year or two. Based
roughly on the Curtiss Pusher as far as the looks but all welded steel
tube and 65-85 hp continental engine.

Bernadette

[Al Hansen]

Interesting, Corky... Just talked to my friend Holloway who is the
real "old airplane" authority (of our group). He confirmed what you
said. He admitted too that he wasn't aware that the OX5 came into
being in 1913. He thought a few years later. He said the 1911 Pusher
used the OX4 (among other engines) but he said he wasn't aware of a
single OX4 still in existance. In fact I guess it was common in those
days for the manufactures to sell the airframes without engines and
let the buyers install anything they wanted. The Pusher in the EAA
museum is a 1912 and has an OX5 displayed right next to it but don't
know what is actually in the plane. Holloway tells me that he doesn't
think there were great differences between the 4 & 5.
Appreciate your input...
Al

> Al, I realise that you can't be 100% accurate in your reproduction but
> I have a question about the use of the OX5 engine. The "Official
> Website" for the OX5 puts it's creation sometime in 1913, and it was
> used in civil and military aircraft from 1913 to 1918.
>
> I guess having an OX5 is interesting enough, but what did the Curtis
> Pusher Model D actually use for an engine 1911?
>
> Thanks, Corky Scott

[Harry Burns]

I can't confess to knowing very much about Curtiss machines, as I have been in
the Wright camp for 7 years now. However, I'd be willing to offer any info.
that I can regarding ancient flying machines. I've got a Wright 1902 glider,
and a few older ships.

Harry

[AMF]

I have been looking for this issue for a while. Anybody that has one and
would like to sell it I would be interested. My Uncle's plane is on the
cover. Thanks

[DAV REICH]

Hi,
Isn't there a Curtis Pusher hanging in the Milwaukee Wisconsin Main terminal
building? They probably have some info and pictures of it hanging from the
ceiling. Hope this helps. Dave Reich

[Brian Reynolds]

In article >,
DAV REICH > wrote:
>Hi,
> Isn't there a Curtis Pusher hanging in the Milwaukee Wisconsin Main
>terminal building? They probably have some info and pictures of it
>hanging from the ceiling. Hope this helps. Dave Reich

The Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome <URL:http://www.oldrhinebrck.org/> has a
reproduction 1911 Curtiss Pusher Model D with an original 1911
Hall-Scott engine. I'm not sure if they still fly it during the
Pioneer (Saturday) airshows.

I was lucky enough to sit in this airplane during a tour a few years
ago. You can see the airplane and specs at:

<URL:http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/aircraft/Curtiss%20Pusher%20Model%20D.htm>

--
Brian Reynolds | "But in the new approach, as you know,
| the important thing is to understand
http://www.panix.com/~reynolds/ | what you're doing rather than to get
NAR# 54438 | the right answer." -- Tom Lehrer

[CandEHAMP]

It is still there, and is still flown. Saw it fly during the Labor day
weekend.

Ed H

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well done

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On Saturday, December 13, 2003 at 5:21:29 AM UTC+13, wrote:
> A couple friends and I are planning to build a 1911 Curtiss. We acquired
> plans from the Curtiss Museum a number of years ago and hope to finally get
> started soon. While the plans are quite detailed in some ways, there are
> many things that are not specified. Even the type of wood used is not shown
> on the plans as well as the type of fabric and "dope" used. We'd like to be
> consistent to the original design as much as possible but realize there
> will have to some compromises. One of my partners is a machinist and has a
> radial engine rebuilding business (Holloway Engineering- Quincy, CA) so he
> will be fabricating all metal parts and has an OX5 engine on hand so those
> problems are already handled.
>
> I'm wondering if there are any RAHers who have been involved in a project
> like this and would be willing to offer some of those answers. Any helpful
> suggestions will certainly be appreciated.
> Al Hansen

[[email protected]]

are you in new Zealand

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On Monday, December 22, 2003 at 3:10:32 AM UTC+13, AMF wrote:
> I have been looking for this issue for a while. Anybody that has one and
> would like to sell it I would be interested. My Uncle's plane is on the
> cover. Thanks

yes