looking for west coast painter

[Brad[_2_]]

I'm pretty sure I am going to have my HP-24 professionally painted.
Can anyone recommend a place within a 500 mile radius of the greater
Seattle area that has experience with Prestec?

thanks,
Brad

[Tim Taylor]

On Apr 4, 1:26*pm, Brad > wrote:
> I'm pretty sure I am going to have my HP-24 professionally painted.
> Can anyone recommend a place within a 500 mile radius of the greater
> Seattle area that has experience with Prestec?
>
> thanks,
> Brad

Why damage a perfectly good glider with Prestec? If the molds were
good and smooth, shoot it with a good 2K polyurethane system. It will
last longer, look better, and add less weight.

[Frank Whiteley]

On Apr 4, 3:15*pm, Tim Taylor > wrote:
> On Apr 4, 1:26*pm, Brad > wrote:
>
> > I'm pretty sure I am going to have my HP-24 professionally painted.
> > Can anyone recommend a place within a 500 mile radius of the greater
> > Seattle area that has experience with Prestec?
>
> > thanks,
> > Brad
>
> Why damage a perfectly good glider with Prestec? *If the molds were
> good and smooth, shoot it with a good 2K polyurethane system. *It will
> last longer, look better, and add less weight.

I would imagine there are a number of good shops in the Seattle area.
I would ask about PU shooters on rec.aviation.homebuilt

Frank Whiteley

[Frank Whiteley]

On Apr 4, 9:11*pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
> On Apr 4, 3:15*pm, Tim Taylor > wrote:
>
> > On Apr 4, 1:26*pm, Brad > wrote:
>
> > > I'm pretty sure I am going to have my HP-24 professionally painted.
> > > Can anyone recommend a place within a 500 mile radius of the greater
> > > Seattle area that has experience with Prestec?
>
> > > thanks,
> > > Brad
>
> > Why damage a perfectly good glider with Prestec? *If the molds were
> > good and smooth, shoot it with a good 2K polyurethane system. *It will
> > last longer, look better, and add less weight.
>
> I would imagine there are a number of good shops in the Seattle area.
> I would ask about PU shooters on rec.aviation.homebuilt
>
> Frank Whiteley

PU with Teflon, now that's slick. Hadn't heard of that.

Frank

[Frank Whiteley]

On Apr 4, 9:11*pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
> On Apr 4, 3:15*pm, Tim Taylor > wrote:
>
> > On Apr 4, 1:26*pm, Brad > wrote:
>
> > > I'm pretty sure I am going to have my HP-24 professionally painted.
> > > Can anyone recommend a place within a 500 mile radius of the greater
> > > Seattle area that has experience with Prestec?
>
> > > thanks,
> > > Brad
>
> > Why damage a perfectly good glider with Prestec? *If the molds were
> > good and smooth, shoot it with a good 2K polyurethane system. *It will
> > last longer, look better, and add less weight.
>
> I would imagine there are a number of good shops in the Seattle area.
> I would ask about PU shooters on rec.aviation.homebuilt
>
> Frank Whiteley

This kind of thread
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.homebuilt/browse_thread/thread/e11b730eff4420a/a9b32167f0fe3cff?lnk=gst&q=polyurethane+seattle#a9b32167f0fe3cff

[[email protected]]

On Apr 4, 5:15*pm, Tim Taylor > wrote:
> On Apr 4, 1:26*pm, Brad > wrote:
>
> > I'm pretty sure I am going to have my HP-24 professionally painted.
> > Can anyone recommend a place within a 500 mile radius of the greater
> > Seattle area that has experience with Prestec?
>
> > thanks,
> > Brad
>
> Why damage a perfectly good glider with Prestec? *If the molds were
> good and smooth, shoot it with a good 2K polyurethane system. *It will
> last longer, look better, and add less weight.

Given that this will be the first flying prototype, and may well
require some "refinements" as it develops, Prestec finish would likely
be a very appropriate decision.
It's worth noting that the proper prep for painting is much more work
to get surface quality required than that required for polyester
topcoat.
I've done both.
Another voice heard from
UH

[Brad[_2_]]

On Apr 6, 11:52*am, wrote:
> On Apr 4, 5:15*pm, Tim Taylor > wrote:
>
> > On Apr 4, 1:26*pm, Brad > wrote:
>
> > > I'm pretty sure I am going to have my HP-24 professionally painted.
> > > Can anyone recommend a place within a 500 mile radius of the greater
> > > Seattle area that has experience with Prestec?
>
> > > thanks,
> > > Brad
>
> > Why damage a perfectly good glider with Prestec? *If the molds were
> > good and smooth, shoot it with a good 2K polyurethane system. *It will
> > last longer, look better, and add less weight.
>
> Given that this will be the first flying prototype, and may well
> require some "refinements" as it develops, Prestec finish would likely
> be a very appropriate decision.
> It's worth noting that the proper prep for painting is much more work
> to get surface quality required than that required for polyester
> topcoat.
> I've done both.
> Another voice heard from
> UH

Thanks UH.....................I also have Prestec on hand and want to
use it.

I think the blister problem with my Apis, which we painted with
Prestec about 7 years ago is due to having never been
waxed.............yeah, lazy me, now when I open the trailer during
the wet months it's got lots of little blisters, and after flying on a
typical damp spring day looks even worse.

I plan on not letting that happen with the new ship.

Brad

[T8]

On Apr 6, 9:32*pm, Brad > wrote:
> On Apr 6, 11:52*am, wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 4, 5:15*pm, Tim Taylor > wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 4, 1:26*pm, Brad > wrote:
>
> > > > I'm pretty sure I am going to have my HP-24 professionally painted.
> > > > Can anyone recommend a place within a 500 mile radius of the greater
> > > > Seattle area that has experience with Prestec?
>
> > > > thanks,
> > > > Brad
>
> > > Why damage a perfectly good glider with Prestec? *If the molds were
> > > good and smooth, shoot it with a good 2K polyurethane system. *It will
> > > last longer, look better, and add less weight.
>
> > Given that this will be the first flying prototype, and may well
> > require some "refinements" as it develops, Prestec finish would likely
> > be a very appropriate decision.
> > It's worth noting that the proper prep for painting is much more work
> > to get surface quality required than that required for polyester
> > topcoat.
> > I've done both.
> > Another voice heard from
> > UH
>
> Thanks UH.....................I also have Prestec on hand and want to
> use it.
>
> I think the blister problem with my Apis, which we painted with
> Prestec about 7 years ago is due to having never been
> waxed.............yeah, lazy me, now when I open the trailer during
> the wet months it's got lots of little blisters, and after flying on a
> typical damp spring day looks even worse.
>
> I plan on not letting that happen with the new ship.
>
> Brad

I've seen that problem in PU paint. As you describe, they grew and
shrank with humidity. In that case it was clearly contamination
between primer and top coat.

Given typical thickness of polyester top coat, this seems really
weird. I'd have said this wasn't possible, or at least *very*
unlikely.

-Evan Ludeman / T8

[JJ Sinclair[_2_]]

On Apr 7, 7:09*am, T8 > wrote:
> On Apr 6, 9:32*pm, Brad > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 6, 11:52*am, wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 4, 5:15*pm, Tim Taylor > wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 4, 1:26*pm, Brad > wrote:
>
> > > > > I'm pretty sure I am going to have my HP-24 professionally painted.
> > > > > Can anyone recommend a place within a 500 mile radius of the greater
> > > > > Seattle area that has experience with Prestec?
>
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > > Brad
>
> > > > Why damage a perfectly good glider with Prestec? *If the molds were
> > > > good and smooth, shoot it with a good 2K polyurethane system. *It will
> > > > last longer, look better, and add less weight.
>
> > > Given that this will be the first flying prototype, and may well
> > > require some "refinements" as it develops, Prestec finish would likely
> > > be a very appropriate decision.
> > > It's worth noting that the proper prep for painting is much more work
> > > to get surface quality required than that required for polyester
> > > topcoat.
> > > I've done both.
> > > Another voice heard from
> > > UH
>
> > Thanks UH.....................I also have Prestec on hand and want to
> > use it.
>
> > I think the blister problem with my Apis, which we painted with
> > Prestec about 7 years ago is due to having never been
> > waxed.............yeah, lazy me, now when I open the trailer during
> > the wet months it's got lots of little blisters, and after flying on a
> > typical damp spring day looks even worse.
>
> > I plan on not letting that happen with the new ship.
>
> > Brad
>
> I've seen that problem in PU paint. *As you describe, they grew and
> shrank with humidity. *In that case it was clearly contamination
> between primer and top coat.
>
> Given typical thickness of polyester top coat, this seems really
> weird. *I'd have said this wasn't possible, or at least *very*
> unlikely.
>
> -Evan Ludeman / T8- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I don't know the cause, but I have seen little blisters form on both
PU and gelcoat when left in a damp trailer. The only way I know to
prevent this problem is to air out the trailer at least once a month
or store the ship and trailer indoors.
JJ
JJ

[[email protected]]

On Apr 7, 11:00*am, JJ Sinclair > wrote:
> On Apr 7, 7:09*am, T8 > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 6, 9:32*pm, Brad > wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 6, 11:52*am, wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 4, 5:15*pm, Tim Taylor > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Apr 4, 1:26*pm, Brad > wrote:
>
> > > > > > I'm pretty sure I am going to have my HP-24 professionally painted.
> > > > > > Can anyone recommend a place within a 500 mile radius of the greater
> > > > > > Seattle area that has experience with Prestec?
>
> > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > Brad
>
> > > > > Why damage a perfectly good glider with Prestec? *If the molds were
> > > > > good and smooth, shoot it with a good 2K polyurethane system. *It will
> > > > > last longer, look better, and add less weight.
>
> > > > Given that this will be the first flying prototype, and may well
> > > > require some "refinements" as it develops, Prestec finish would likely
> > > > be a very appropriate decision.
> > > > It's worth noting that the proper prep for painting is much more work
> > > > to get surface quality required than that required for polyester
> > > > topcoat.
> > > > I've done both.
> > > > Another voice heard from
> > > > UH
>
> > > Thanks UH.....................I also have Prestec on hand and want to
> > > use it.
>
> > > I think the blister problem with my Apis, which we painted with
> > > Prestec about 7 years ago is due to having never been
> > > waxed.............yeah, lazy me, now when I open the trailer during
> > > the wet months it's got lots of little blisters, and after flying on a
> > > typical damp spring day looks even worse.
>
> > > I plan on not letting that happen with the new ship.
>
> > > Brad
>
> > I've seen that problem in PU paint. *As you describe, they grew and
> > shrank with humidity. *In that case it was clearly contamination
> > between primer and top coat.
>
> > Given typical thickness of polyester top coat, this seems really
> > weird. *I'd have said this wasn't possible, or at least *very*
> > unlikely.
>
> > -Evan Ludeman / T8- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I don't know the cause, but I have seen little blisters form on both
> PU and gelcoat when left in a damp trailer. The only way I know to
> prevent this problem is to air out the trailer at least once a month
> or store the ship and trailer indoors.
> JJ
> JJ- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

This agrees with my experience also.
Usually blisters are where moisture is trapped for a long time.
UH