Private Pilot Certificate, or Lightsport Pilot

[Mark IV]

Either one, it's the exact same checkride.

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Mark IV

[Jim Logajan]

Mark IV > wrote:
> Either one, it's the exact same checkride.

Why would an examiner ask a sport pilot about night operations if the pilot
hasn't been trained in them?

How did you determine they were the same checkride?

[[email protected]]

Jim Logajan > wrote:
> Mark IV > wrote:
>> Either one, it's the exact same checkride.
>
> Why would an examiner ask a sport pilot about night operations if the pilot
> hasn't been trained in them?
>
> How did you determine they were the same checkride?

Like everything else he pulled it out of his ass.


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[george]

On Apr 17, 5:34*am, wrote:
> Jim Logajan > wrote:
> > Mark IV > wrote:
> >> Either one, it's the exact same checkride.
>
> > Why would an examiner ask a sport pilot about night operations if the pilot
> > hasn't been trained in them?
>
> > How did you determine they were the same checkride?
>
> Like everything else he pulled it out of his ass.
>
Just asking
Are you required to have time up night flying to do a PPL in the US ?

[Jim Logajan]

george > wrote:
> Are you required to have time up night flying to do a PPL in the US ?

With the exception of those receiving flight training in Alaska, yes.

Even for those in Alaska, a private pilot certificate could be issued with
a limitation that night flying is prohibited - and the person would be
required to get night training within 12 months or the certificate would
become invalid. The rationale appears to be that training during the summer
at high latitudes yields insufficient night hours.

[hierophant[_2_]]

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 13:25:20 -0700 (PDT), george wrote:

> On Apr 17, 5:34*am, wrote:
>> Jim Logajan > wrote:
>>> Mark IV > wrote:
>>>> Either one, it's the exact same checkride.
>>
>>> Why would an examiner ask a sport pilot about night operations if the pilot
>>> hasn't been trained in them?
>>
>>> How did you determine they were the same checkride?
>>
>> Like everything else he pulled it out of his ass.
>>
> Just asking
> Are you required to have time up night flying to do a PPL in the US ?

In all 48 states.

[george]

On Apr 17, 9:47*am, hierophant > wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 13:25:20 -0700 (PDT), george wrote:
> > On Apr 17, 5:34*am, wrote:
> >> Jim Logajan > wrote:
> >>> Mark IV > wrote:
> >>>> Either one, it's the exact same checkride.
>
> >>> Why would an examiner ask a sport pilot about night operations if the pilot
> >>> hasn't been trained in them?
>
> >>> How did you determine they were the same checkride?
>
> >> Like everything else he pulled it out of his ass.
>
> > Just asking
> > Are you required to have time up night flying to do a PPL in the US ?
>
> In all 48 states.

Thanks for that.
Our Regs allowed us to go no more than 10 nm aay from the Airfield so
although I did a few hours night circuits I wasn't interested...

[Jim Logajan]

hierophant > wrote:
> In all 48 states.

Do you plan to vote for Ike or Adlai?

[hierophant[_2_]]

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:47:19 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:

> hierophant > wrote:
>> In all 48 states.
>
> Do you plan to vote for Ike or Adlai?

I missed the point; please advise. ;)

[Mark IV]

On Apr 16, 12:51*pm, Jim Logajan > wrote:
> Mark IV > wrote:
> > Either one, it's the exact same checkride.
>
> Why would an examiner ask a sport pilot about night operations if the pilot
> hasn't been trained in them?

I didn't say the oral was the same. Only the
checkride.

> How did you determine they were the same checkride?

As per a Senior CFI, former commercial jet pilot
that I fly with that currently trains dozens of folks,
works 7 days a week in aviation and in a 141
school and with the FAA.

Hope this helps when deciding what level of
piloting expertise you should expect when choosing
your training.

Thanks,

---
Mark IV

[Mark IV]

On Apr 16, 1:34*pm, wrote:
> Jim Logajan > wrote:
> > Mark IV > wrote:
> >> Either one, it's the exact same checkride.
>
> > Why would an examiner ask a sport pilot about night operations if the pilot
> > hasn't been trained in them?
>
> > How did you determine they were the same checkride?
>
> Like everything else he pulled it out of his ass.
>
> --
> Jim Pennino
>
> Remove .spam.sux to reply.

I've swapped posts with you on NUMEROUS
occasions, and discussed MULTIPLE topics in
which we've ALWAYS disagreed, and yet...funny
thing...can you list even one point in which you
were right and I wasn't?

I've even offered to have an independent fiduciary
party hold 10 thousand dollars from each of us,
winner take all to the correct answer. You weren't
able to pass muster.

In the final analysis, you only trolled.

---
Mark IV

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Mark IV > wrote:
> On Apr 16, 1:34Â*pm, wrote:
>> Jim Logajan > wrote:
>> > Mark IV > wrote:
>> >> Either one, it's the exact same checkride.
>>
>> > Why would an examiner ask a sport pilot about night operations if the pilot
>> > hasn't been trained in them?
>>
>> > How did you determine they were the same checkride?
>>
>> Like everything else he pulled it out of his ass.
>>
>> --
>> Jim Pennino
>>
>> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>
> I've swapped posts with you on NUMEROUS
> occasions, and discussed MULTIPLE topics in
> which we've ALWAYS disagreed, and yet...funny
> thing...can you list even one point in which you
> were right and I wasn't?

Yeah, right.

Is that what the voices in you head tell you?

<snip remaining idiocy>


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[hierophant[_2_]]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:10:10 -0000, wrote:

> Mark IV > wrote:
>> On Apr 16, 1:34*pm, wrote:
>>> Jim Logajan > wrote:
>>> > Mark IV > wrote:
>>> >> Either one, it's the exact same checkride.
>>>
>>> > Why would an examiner ask a sport pilot about night operations if the pilot
>>> > hasn't been trained in them?
>>>
>>> > How did you determine they were the same checkride?
>>>
>>> Like everything else he pulled it out of his ass.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jim Pennino
>>>
>>> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>>
>> I've swapped <snipped off meds delusionalities>
>
> Yeah, right.
>
> Is that what the voices in you head tell you?
>
> <snip remaining idiocy>

They also tell him that by buying right seat time he can become a play
pilot. ;)
--

[Jim Logajan]

hierophant > wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:47:19 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:
>
>> hierophant > wrote:
>>> In all 48 states.
>>
>> Do you plan to vote for Ike or Adlai?
>
> I missed the point; please advise. ;)

Eisonhower's was the last administration in which one could accurately use
the phrase "all 48 states."

[Jim Logajan]

Mark IV > wrote:
> On Apr 16, 12:51*pm, Jim Logajan > wrote:
>> How did you determine they were the same checkride?
>
> As per a Senior CFI, former commercial jet pilot
> that I fly with that currently trains dozens of folks,
> works 7 days a week in aviation and in a 141
> school and with the FAA.

He's probably putting you under the hood and having you do maneuvers by
reference to instruments. The Sport Pilot PTS does not require such.

You could also simply go to the FAA web site and download the two PTS
documents and compare them:

http://www.faa.gov/training_testing/testing/airmen/test_standards/pilot/

[Mark IV]

On Apr 17, 3:02*pm, Jim Logajan > wrote:
> Mark IV > wrote:
> > On Apr 16, 12:51*pm, Jim Logajan > wrote:
> >> How did you determine they were the same checkride?
>
> > As per a Senior CFI, former commercial jet pilot
> > that I fly with that currently trains dozens of folks,
> > works 7 days a week in aviation and in a 141
> > school and with the FAA.
>
> He's probably putting you under the hood and having you do maneuvers by
> reference to instruments. The Sport Pilot PTS does not require such.
>
> You could also simply go to the FAA web site and download the two PTS
> documents and compare them:
>
> http://www.faa.gov/training_testing/testing/airmen/test_standards/pilot/

Ok, thanks. I'm more than happy to stand
corrected if need be. There are a few things that
concern me about flight instruction. One is...paying
for unnecessary time, and the other is, the liability
which I have for someone else's plane simply because
I'm responsible for checking the maintenance records.
Sure, I can see when 100 hr. services are done, or
read about repairs, but that's a lot different from owning
your own plane and actually overseeing first hand who
and how it was done.

---
Mark IV

[Mark IV]

On Apr 17, 1:05*pm, hierophant > wrote:

> They also tell him that by buying right seat time he can become a play
> pilot. ;)
> --

Guess you're uninformed. People who rent
planes fly from the left seat. People who take
flight instruction are always also seated in the
left seat. Your comment is telling.

---
Mark IV

[Mark IV]

On Apr 17, 11:10*am, wrote:
> Mark IV > wrote:
> > On Apr 16, 1:34*pm, wrote:
> >> Jim Logajan > wrote:
> >> > Mark IV > wrote:
> >> >> Either one, it's the exact same checkride.
>
> >> > Why would an examiner ask a sport pilot about night operations if the pilot
> >> > hasn't been trained in them?
>
> >> > How did you determine they were the same checkride?
>
> >> Like everything else he pulled it out of his ass.
>
> >> --
> >> Jim Pennino
>
> >> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>
> > I've swapped posts with you on NUMEROUS
> > occasions, and discussed MULTIPLE topics in
> > which we've ALWAYS disagreed, and yet...funny
> > thing...can you list even one point in which you
> > were right and I wasn't?
>
> Yeah, right.
>
> Is that what the voices in you head tell you?

Yes that's right. The voice in my head is my
own voice as I construct logic and replay with
lucidity my nearly photographic memory. The
other voices are the replies within the context
of these exchanges. And...sometimes I play
multiple parts as I muse the likely responses which
will result from anticipated future conversations.

I haven't heard a peep from God or Satan. LOL.

---
Mark IV

[Jim Logajan]

Mark IV > wrote:
> There are a few things that
> concern me about flight instruction. One is...paying
> for unnecessary time,

Understandable but on closer inspection not worth worrying about. Aviating
is expensive and a few extra hours really don't matter.

> and the other is, the liability
> which I have for someone else's plane simply because
> I'm responsible for checking the maintenance records.
> Sure, I can see when 100 hr. services are done, or
> read about repairs, but that's a lot different from owning
> your own plane and actually overseeing first hand who
> and how it was done.

That is what renter's insurance is for. Shouldn't cost most than a few
hundred a year.

[hierophant[_2_]]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 13:45:28 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:

> hierophant > wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:47:19 -0500, Jim Logajan wrote:
>>
>>> hierophant > wrote:
>>>> In all 48 states.
>>>
>>> Do you plan to vote for Ike or Adlai?
>>
>> I missed the point; please advise. ;)
>
> Eisonhower's was the last administration in which one could accurately use
> the phrase "all 48 states."

That bit of history I am aware. ;) Hawaii and Alaska do not require
time up night flying for a PPL. 50-2 = ;0)
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[hierophant[_2_]]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:23:45 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:

> On Apr 17, 11:10*am, wrote:
>> Mark IV > wrote:
>>> On Apr 16, 1:34*pm, wrote:
>>>> Jim Logajan > wrote:
>>>> > Mark IV > wrote:
>>>> >> Either one, it's the exact same checkride.
>>
>>>> > Why would an examiner ask a sport pilot about night operations if the pilot
>>>> > hasn't been trained in them?
>>
>>>> > How did you determine they were the same checkride?
>>
>>>> Like everything else he pulled it out of his ass.
>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jim Pennino
>>
>>>> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>>
>>> I've swapped posts with you on NUMEROUS
>>> occasions, and discussed MULTIPLE topics in
>>> which we've ALWAYS disagreed, and yet...funny
>>> thing...can you list even one point in which you
>>> were right and I wasn't?
>>
>> Yeah, right.
>>
>> Is that what the voices in you head tell you?
>
> Yes that's right. The voice in my head.

Simple. Back on your Lithium and Xanax. Voila! Still crazy but at
least able to sustain an existence of welfare!

Maybe :(

[Mark IV]

On Apr 17, 11:06*pm, Jim Logajan > wrote:
> Mark IV > wrote:
> > There are a few things that
> > concern me about flight instruction. *One is...paying
> > for unnecessary time,
>
> Understandable but on closer inspection not worth worrying about. Aviating
> is expensive and a few extra hours really don't matter.

Agreed. My instructors reason with me that I'm going
to want to know these other things anyway (they're
right) so I'm pretty much going with the flow. You have
to trust them, or find someone whom you can.

> > and the other is, the liability
> > which I have for someone else's plane simply because
> > I'm responsible for checking the maintenance records.
> > Sure, I can see when 100 hr. services are done, or
> > read about repairs, but that's a lot different from owning
> > your own plane and actually overseeing first hand who
> > and how it was done.
>
> That is what renter's insurance is for. Shouldn't cost most than a few
> hundred a year.

Yeah, about 350. I need to get off my ass
and give them a call.

---
Mark IV

[Mark IV]

On Apr 18, 1:34*am, hierophant > wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:23:45 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
> > On Apr 17, 11:10 am, wrote:
> >> Mark IV > wrote:
> >>> On Apr 16, 1:34 pm, wrote:
> >>>> Jim Logajan > wrote:
> >>>> > Mark IV > wrote:
> >>>> >> Either one, it's the exact same checkride.
>
> >>>> > Why would an examiner ask a sport pilot about night operations if the pilot
> >>>> > hasn't been trained in them?
>
> >>>> > How did you determine they were the same checkride?
>
> >>>> Like everything else he pulled it out of his ass.
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jim Pennino
>
> >>>> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>
> >>> I've swapped posts with you on NUMEROUS
> >>> occasions, and discussed MULTIPLE topics in
> >>> which we've ALWAYS disagreed, and yet...funny
> >>> thing...can you list even one point in which you
> >>> were right and I wasn't?
>
> >> Yeah, right.
>
> >> Is that what the voices in you head tell you?
>
> > Yes that's right. *The voice in my head.
>
> Simple. Back on your Lithium and Xanax. Voila! Still crazy but at
> least able to sustain an existence of welfare!
>
> Maybe :(

I imagine from the perspective of an outside
observer, they would see you making these
claims...knowing that of course your claims are
both fabricated and obviously impossible to
substantiate...and they would say to themselves,
"this hierophant fellow seems to be another one
of those internet goofballs that quacks out his
ass".

That would be the first conclusion.

By the way, sometimes I don't fly from the
left seat. I fly from the "front" seat. There are
however, actually pilots that fly alone...from the
right seat due to personal preference.

You sure do talk a lot about psychotropic
drugs. I'm just sayin'. Makes us wonder.

---
Mark IV

[hierophant[_2_]]

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:26:52 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:

> On Apr 18, 1:34*am, hierophant > wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:23:45 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
>>> On Apr 17, 11:10 am, wrote:
>>>> Mark IV > wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 16, 1:34 pm, wrote:
>>>>>> Jim Logajan > wrote:
>>>>>> > Mark IV > wrote:
>>>>>> >> Either one, it's the exact same checkride.
>>
>>>>>> > Why would an examiner ask a sport pilot about night operations if the pilot
>>>>>> > hasn't been trained in them?
>>
>>>>>> > How did you determine they were the same checkride?
>>
>>>>>> Like everything else he pulled it out of his ass.
>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jim Pennino
>>
>>>>>> Remove .spam.sux to reply.
>>
>>>>> I've swapped posts with you on NUMEROUS
>>>>> occasions, and discussed MULTIPLE topics in
>>>>> which we've ALWAYS disagreed, and yet...funny
>>>>> thing...can you list even one point in which you
>>>>> were right and I wasn't?
>>
>>>> Yeah, right.
>>
>>>> Is that what the voices in you head tell you?
>>
>>> Yes that's right. *The voice in my head.
>>
>> Simple. Back on your Lithium and Xanax. Voila! Still crazy but at
>> least able to sustain an existence off welfare!
>>
>> Maybe :(
>
> I imagine..

Imagination is a good thing, MarkTroll, but evil when mixed with
genetically induced mental afflictions. ;)

It could cause one to pursue a sports pilot license...for years and
years on end! ;0)

[hierophant[_2_]]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:

> There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
> One is...paying for unnecessary time,

A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
of aviation is in the thousands?

Curious and curiouser. ;)

[george]

On Apr 19, 2:36*am, hierophant > wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
> > There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
> > One is...paying for unnecessary time,
>
> A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
> of aviation is in the thousands?
>
> Curious and curiouser. ;)

I can't work out how any time in an aircraft can be classed as
unnecessary...

[hierophant[_2_]]

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:50 -0700 (PDT), george wrote:

> On Apr 19, 2:36*am, hierophant > wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
>>> There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
>>> One is...paying for unnecessary time,
>>
>> A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
>> of aviation is in the thousands?
>>
>> Curious and curiouser. ;)
>
> I can't work out how any time in an aircraft can be classed as
> unnecessary...

george, hint coming. MarkTroll isn't spending any time in any
aircraft...except the one's buzzing around in his head. ;)

[george]

On Apr 19, 8:48*am, hierophant > wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:50 -0700 (PDT), george wrote:
> > On Apr 19, 2:36 am, hierophant > wrote:
> >> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
> >>> There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
> >>> One is...paying for unnecessary time,
>
> >> A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
> >> of aviation is in the thousands?
>
> >> Curious and curiouser. ;)
>
> > I can't work out how any time in an aircraft can be classed as
> > unnecessary...
>
> george, hint coming. MarkTroll isn't spending any time in any
> aircraft...except the one's buzzing around in his head. ;)

Yup. But he -might- have Microsofts toy and think that he's a pilot.
Happened on here before you know...

[hierophant[_2_]]

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 14:17:12 -0700 (PDT), george wrote:

> On Apr 19, 8:48*am, hierophant > wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:50 -0700 (PDT), george wrote:
>>> On Apr 19, 2:36 am, hierophant > wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
>>>>> There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
>>>>> One is...paying for unnecessary time,
>>
>>>> A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
>>>> of aviation is in the thousands?
>>
>>>> Curious and curiouser. ;)
>>
>>> I can't work out how any time in an aircraft can be classed as
>>> unnecessary...
>>
>> george, hint coming. MarkTroll isn't spending any time in any
>> aircraft...except the one's buzzing around in his head. ;)
>
> Yup. But he -might- have Microsofts toy and think that he's a pilot.
> Happened on here before you know...

Point made. ;0)

[Mark IV]

On Apr 18, 4:48*pm, hierophant > wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:50 -0700 (PDT), george wrote:
> > On Apr 19, 2:36 am, hierophant > wrote:
> >> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
> >>> There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
> >>> One is...paying for unnecessary time,
>
> >> A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
> >> of aviation is in the thousands?
>
> >> Curious and curiouser. ;)
>
> > I can't work out how any time in an aircraft can be classed as
> > unnecessary...
>
> george, hint coming. MarkTroll isn't spending any time in any
> aircraft...except the one's buzzing around in his head. ;)

Care to put your money where your mouth is?

---
Mark IV

[hierophant[_2_]]

On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:38:29 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:

> On Apr 18, 4:48*pm, hierophant > wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:50 -0700 (PDT), george wrote:
>>> On Apr 19, 2:36 am, hierophant > wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
>>>>> There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
>>>>> One is...paying for unnecessary time,
>>
>>>> A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
>>>> of aviation is in the thousands?
>>
>>>> Curious and curiouser. ;)
>>
>>> I can't work out how any time in an aircraft can be classed as
>>> unnecessary...
>>
>> george, hint coming. MarkTroll isn't spending any time in any
>> aircraft...except the one's buzzing around in his head. ;)
>
> Care to put your money where your mouth is?
>
> ---
> Mark IV

Certainly! I bet $1,000 that you will not post the CFI and the
training school you are <not> attending. ;)

[Mark IV]

On Apr 18, 4:07*pm, george > wrote:
> On Apr 19, 2:36*am, hierophant > wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
> > > There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
> > > One is...paying for unnecessary time,
>
> > A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
> > of aviation is in the thousands?
>
> > Curious and curiouser. ;)
>
> I can't work out how any time in an aircraft can be classed as
> unnecessary...

I didn't say "time in an aircraft". I said "instruction".
The real gravy for CFIs is GROUND SCHOOL. No
fuel expenditure, no wear and tear on the plane, no
risk. Yesterday while out of town, I stopped into an
FBO and saw a former instructor of mine at his hanger
with a young student. He had the kid washing his plane.
Poor kid was probably paying by the hour to do it too.

---
Mark IV

[Mark IV]

On Apr 19, 12:05*am, hierophant > wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:38:29 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
> > On Apr 18, 4:48*pm, hierophant > wrote:
> >> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:50 -0700 (PDT), george wrote:
> >>> On Apr 19, 2:36 am, hierophant > wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
> >>>>> There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
> >>>>> One is...paying for unnecessary time,
>
> >>>> A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
> >>>> of aviation is in the thousands?
>
> >>>> Curious and curiouser. ;)
>
> >>> I can't work out how any time in an aircraft can be classed as
> >>> unnecessary...
>
> >> george, hint coming. MarkTroll isn't spending any time in any
> >> aircraft...except the one's buzzing around in his head. ;)
>
> > Care to put your money where your mouth is?
>
> > ---
> > Mark IV
>
> Certainly! I bet $1,000 that you will not post the CFI and the
> training school you are <not> attending. ;)

That's not enough money Mr. Rich man. I'm just
a poor student, but why don't we up the ante.
You seem to know all about me. You say I don't
have a dime to spend. Poor, poor me. Shall we
find a reputable legal firm to establish this little
escrow account? I will transfer $100,000.00
today. Will you match me?

---
Poor Mark IV

[hierophant[_2_]]

On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 05:02:21 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:

> On Apr 19, 12:05*am, hierophant > wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:38:29 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
>>> On Apr 18, 4:48*pm, hierophant > wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:50 -0700 (PDT), george wrote:
>>>>> On Apr 19, 2:36 am, hierophant > wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
>>>>>>> There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
>>>>>>> One is...paying for unnecessary time,
>>
>>>>>> A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
>>>>>> of aviation is in the thousands?
>>
>>>>>> Curious and curiouser. ;)
>>
>>>>> I can't work out how any time in an aircraft can be classed as
>>>>> unnecessary...
>>
>>>> george, hint coming. MarkTroll isn't spending any time in any
>>>> aircraft...except the one's buzzing around in his head. ;)
>>
>>> Care to put your money where your mouth is?
>>
>>> ---
>>> Mark IV
>>
>> Certainly! I bet $1,000 that you will not post the CFI and the
>> training school you are <not> attending. ;)
>
> That's not enough money Mr. Rich man. I'm just
> a poor student, but why don't we up the ante.
> You seem to know all about me. You say I don't
> have a dime to spend. Poor, poor me. Shall we
> find a reputable legal firm to establish this little
> escrow account? I will transfer $100,000.00
> today. Will you match me?
>
> ---
> Poor Mark IV

Only after you transfer the $1,000 I have won! ;)

[hierophant[_2_]]

On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 04:56:40 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:

> On Apr 18, 4:07*pm, george > wrote:
>> On Apr 19, 2:36*am, hierophant > wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
>>> > There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
>>> > One is...paying for unnecessary time,
>>
>>> A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
>>> of aviation is in the thousands?
>>
>>> Curious and curiouser. ;)
>>
>> I can't work out how any time in an aircraft can be classed as
>> unnecessary...
>
> I didn't say "time in an aircraft".

george, you were right and I admit I was wrong. MarkTroll /is/ a
Microsoft MVP!

[Mark IV]

On Apr 19, 9:17*am, hierophant > wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 05:02:21 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
> > On Apr 19, 12:05 am, hierophant > wrote:
> >> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:38:29 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
> >>> On Apr 18, 4:48 pm, hierophant > wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:50 -0700 (PDT), george wrote:
> >>>>> On Apr 19, 2:36 am, hierophant > wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
> >>>>>>> There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
> >>>>>>> One is...paying for unnecessary time,
>
> >>>>>> A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
> >>>>>> of aviation is in the thousands?
>
> >>>>>> Curious and curiouser. ;)
>
> >>>>> I can't work out how any time in an aircraft can be classed as
> >>>>> unnecessary...
>
> >>>> george, hint coming. MarkTroll isn't spending any time in any
> >>>> aircraft...except the one's buzzing around in his head. ;)
>
> >>> Care to put your money where your mouth is?
>
> >>> ---
> >>> Mark IV
>
> >> Certainly! I bet $1,000 that you will not post the CFI and the
> >> training school you are <not> attending. ;)
>
> > That's not enough money Mr. Rich man. I'm just
> > a poor student, but why don't we up the ante.
> > You seem to know all about me. You say I don't
> > have a dime to spend. Poor, poor me. Shall we
> > find a reputable legal firm to establish this little
> > escrow account? *I will transfer $100,000.00
> > today. Will you match me?
>
> > ---
> > Poor Mark IV
>
> Only after you transfer the $1,000 I have won! ;)

Stop being childish and act like a man.
Stand behind your words or admit that
you're just another internet goofball.

Now, talk about piloting. If you can.

Also, I have attorneys standing by to complete
our arrangement of truth validation. This could
be your lucky day.

---
Mark IV

[Mark IV]

On Apr 19, 9:19*am, hierophant > wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 04:56:40 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
> > On Apr 18, 4:07 pm, george > wrote:
> >> On Apr 19, 2:36 am, hierophant > wrote:
>
> >>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
> >>> > There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
> >>> > One is...paying for unnecessary time,
>
> >>> A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
> >>> of aviation is in the thousands?
>
> >>> Curious and curiouser. ;)
>
> >> I can't work out how any time in an aircraft can be classed as
> >> unnecessary...
>
> > I didn't say "time in an aircraft".
>
> george, you were right and I admit I was wrong. MarkTroll /is/ a
> Microsoft MVP!

Put up or shut up.

---
Mark IV

[[email protected]]

Mark IV > wrote:
> On Apr 19, 9:17Â*am, hierophant > wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 05:02:21 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
>> > On Apr 19, 12:05 am, hierophant > wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:38:29 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
>> >>> On Apr 18, 4:48 pm, hierophant > wrote:
>> >>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:50 -0700 (PDT), george wrote:
>> >>>>> On Apr 19, 2:36 am, hierophant > wrote:
>> >>>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
>> >>>>>>> There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
>> >>>>>>> One is...paying for unnecessary time,
>>
>> >>>>>> A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
>> >>>>>> of aviation is in the thousands?
>>
>> >>>>>> Curious and curiouser. ;)
>>
>> >>>>> I can't work out how any time in an aircraft can be classed as
>> >>>>> unnecessary...
>>
>> >>>> george, hint coming. MarkTroll isn't spending any time in any
>> >>>> aircraft...except the one's buzzing around in his head. ;)
>>
>> >>> Care to put your money where your mouth is?
>>
>> >>> ---
>> >>> Mark IV
>>
>> >> Certainly! I bet $1,000 that you will not post the CFI and the
>> >> training school you are <not> attending. ;)
>>
>> > That's not enough money Mr. Rich man. I'm just
>> > a poor student, but why don't we up the ante.
>> > You seem to know all about me. You say I don't
>> > have a dime to spend. Poor, poor me. Shall we
>> > find a reputable legal firm to establish this little
>> > escrow account? Â*I will transfer $100,000.00
>> > today. Will you match me?
>>
>> > ---
>> > Poor Mark IV
>>
>> Only after you transfer the $1,000 I have won! ;)
>
> Stop being childish and act like a man.
> Stand behind your words or admit that
> you're just another internet goofball.
>
> Now, talk about piloting. If you can.
>
> Also, I have attorneys standing by to complete
> our arrangement of truth validation. This could
> be your lucky day.
>
> ---
> Mark IV

Someone that really had $100,000 laying around and attorneys (note plural)
on standby for betting purposes wouldn't be whinning about the cost of
flight instruction.


--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

[hierophant[_2_]]

On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:42:35 -0000, wrote:

> Mark IV > wrote:
>> On Apr 19, 9:17*am, hierophant > wrote:
>>> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 05:02:21 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
>>> > On Apr 19, 12:05 am, hierophant > wrote:
>>> >> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 18:38:29 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
>>> >>> On Apr 18, 4:48 pm, hierophant > wrote:
>>> >>>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:07:50 -0700 (PDT), george wrote:
>>> >>>>> On Apr 19, 2:36 am, hierophant > wrote:
>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
>>> >>>>>>> There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
>>> >>>>>>> One is...paying for unnecessary time,
>>>
>>> >>>>>> A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
>>> >>>>>> of aviation is in the thousands?
>>>
>>> >>>>>> Curious and curiouser. ;)
>>>
>>> >>>>> I can't work out how any time in an aircraft can be classed as
>>> >>>>> unnecessary...
>>>
>>> >>>> george, hint coming. MarkTroll isn't spending any time in any
>>> >>>> aircraft...except the one's buzzing around in his head. ;)
>>>
>>> >>> Care to put your money where your mouth is?
>>>
>>> >>> ---
>>> >>> Mark IV
>>>
>>> >> Certainly! I bet $1,000 that you will not post the CFI and the
>>> >> training school you are <not> attending. ;)
>>>
>>> > That's not enough money Mr. Rich man. I'm just
>>> > a poor student, but why don't we up the ante.
>>> > You seem to know all about me. You say I don't
>>> > have a dime to spend. Poor, poor me. Shall we
>>> > find a reputable legal firm to establish this little
>>> > escrow account? *I will transfer $100,000.00
>>> > today. Will you match me?
>>>
>>> > ---
>>> > Poor Mark IV
>>>
>>> Only after you transfer the $1,000 I have won! ;)
>>
>> Stop being childish and act like a man.
>> Stand behind your words or admit that
>> you're just another internet goofball.
>>
>> Now, talk about piloting. If you can.
>>
>> Also, I have attorneys standing by to complete
>> our arrangement of truth validation. This could
>> be your lucky day.
>>
>> ---
>> Mark IV
>
> Someone that really had $100,000 laying around and attorneys (note plural)
> on standby for betting purposes wouldn't be whinning about the cost of
> flight instruction.

Stop with the logic, Jim. ;)

[george]

On Apr 20, 1:19*am, hierophant > wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 04:56:40 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
> > On Apr 18, 4:07 pm, george > wrote:
> >> On Apr 19, 2:36 am, hierophant > wrote:
>
> >>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:03:02 -0700 (PDT), Mark IV wrote:
> >>> > There are a few things that concern me about flight instruction.
> >>> > One is...paying for unnecessary time,
>
> >>> A self-proclaimed rich man? Worried about a few pounds when the cost
> >>> of aviation is in the thousands?
>
> >>> Curious and curiouser. ;)
>
> >> I can't work out how any time in an aircraft can be classed as
> >> unnecessary...
>
> > I didn't say "time in an aircraft".
>
> george, you were right and I admit I was wrong. MarkTroll /is/ a
> Microsoft MVP!

It happens.
I enjoyed the 'poor pilot' claim whereupon he later claims to have
$100,000 to throw around.
I doubt he actually read what he writes