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Gary Boggs
April 29th 11, 03:12 PM
Wow, now that the Blaniks are all grounded, the price of 2-33s has
sure shot up! There are two now listed at 16K? Who would have
guessed?

Boggs

Tony[_5_]
April 29th 11, 03:21 PM
On Apr 29, 9:12*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
> Wow, now that the Blaniks are all grounded, the price of 2-33s has
> sure shot up! *There are two now listed at 16K? *Who would have
> guessed?
>
> Boggs

well there is always a difference between asking price and selling
price. i'd be very surprised if any actually sell for that much.

Bart[_4_]
April 29th 11, 04:57 PM
On Apr 29, 7:12*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
> Wow, now that the Blaniks are all grounded, the price of 2-33s has
> sure shot up! *There are two now listed at 16K? *

Well, what other two seaters are there in the <20k price range? Are
there any?

Bart

Scott[_7_]
April 30th 11, 12:44 AM
On 4-29-2011 14:12, GARY BOGGS wrote:
> Wow, now that the Blaniks are all grounded, the price of 2-33s has
> sure shot up! There are two now listed at 16K? Who would have
> guessed?
>
> Boggs

Made of gold? Doubtful...they would be way too heavy to fly at all ;)

Tony[_5_]
April 30th 11, 01:30 AM
On Apr 29, 6:44*pm, Scott > wrote:
> On 4-29-2011 14:12, GARY BOGGS wrote:
>
> > Wow, now that the Blaniks are all grounded, the price of 2-33s has
> > sure shot up! *There are two now listed at 16K? *Who would have
> > guessed?
>
> > Boggs
>
> Made of gold? *Doubtful...they would be way too heavy to fly at all *;)

plus the fatigue life of aluminum has got to be way better than gold.

April 30th 11, 01:57 AM
On Apr 29, 8:30*pm, Tony > wrote:
> On Apr 29, 6:44*pm, Scott > wrote:
>
> > On 4-29-2011 14:12, GARY BOGGS wrote:
>
> > > Wow, now that the Blaniks are all grounded, the price of 2-33s has
> > > sure shot up! *There are two now listed at 16K? *Who would have
> > > guessed?
>
> > > Boggs
>
> > Made of gold? *Doubtful...they would be way too heavy to fly at all *;)
>
> plus the fatigue life of aluminum has got to be way better than gold.

Having gliders to fly when you otherwise would be grounded- Priceless!
UH

John Smith
April 30th 11, 12:08 PM
Bart wrote:
> Well, what other two seaters are there in the <20k price range? Are
> there any?

My sofa was way cheaper and has about the same glide ratio.

Gary Boggs
April 30th 11, 02:28 PM
I have a student transitioning from hang gliders that is amazed by the
terrific L/D and speed range of the 2-33.
It has a great handicap...

Boggs



>
> My sofa was way cheaper and has about the same glide ratio.

BobW
April 30th 11, 03:08 PM
> I have a student transitioning from hang gliders that is amazed by the
> terrific L/D and speed range of the 2-33.
> It has a great handicap...
>
>>
>> My sofa was way cheaper and has about the same glide ratio.
>

Let's have this discussion when your sofa 50 is years old.

Debating the pros & cons of 2-33's, or the pros and cons of aluminum airframe
construction, is about as fruitful and conclusive as debating religion. I'm
utterly convinced that if only their radial engines hadn't been run out of the
market by the jet turbine conspiracy, that - eventually - fervid pilots would
be dissing the metal fatigue related issues of DC-3 airframes, because sooner
or later, they *will* begin to suffer from fatigue issues. The darned things
should never have been built out of aluminum.

Right now I'm going to channel Hitler to get his opinion on the subject...

Bob - is it spring yet? - W.

May 1st 11, 06:50 AM
> >> My sofa was way cheaper and has about the same glide ratio.
>
> Let's have this discussion when your sofa 50 is years old.



I'll bet when your sofa IS 50 yrs old, it will be more comfortable
than the back seat of a 2-33.

But why wait to find out? Pull some of those cushons out an go fly
one!

aerodine

Tim Taylor
May 1st 11, 07:12 AM
On Apr 29, 8:21*am, Tony > wrote:
> On Apr 29, 9:12*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
>
> > Wow, now that the Blaniks are all grounded, the price of 2-33s has
> > sure shot up! *There are two now listed at 16K? *Who would have
> > guessed?
>
> > Boggs
>
> well there is always a difference between asking price and selling
> price. i'd be very surprised if any actually sell for that much.

Good news, bad news.

Good news: Our Blanik is worth five thousand more than it used to be.

Bad news: It will cost ten thousand to make it worth five thousand
more.

Jim Beckman[_2_]
May 1st 11, 12:27 PM
At 11:08 30 April 2011, John Smith wrote:
>Bart wrote:
>> Well, what other two seaters are there in the there any?
>
>My sofa was way cheaper and has about the same glide ratio.

Probably handles a lot better than the 2-33, too.

Jim Beckman

Gary Boggs
May 1st 11, 03:19 PM
It still beats being on the ground.

http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0/gliding/flightinfo.html;jsessionid=A6EA044DC82478785446F55 DF5137E64?flightId=-1448224106

Ken Latam
May 1st 11, 04:29 PM
I just picked up a realy nice KA-7 with trailer(thanks Frank) from New York
for $8000. I notice that the 2-33's listed are $16,000+ without trailer.

It's kinda a shame that the Schwitzer brother's stopped producing
glider's, as building a better twin would of been a logical step.
Something like a 2-35 or a 2-36 Twin Sprite.


Ken

Gary Boggs
May 1st 11, 05:09 PM
The 2-33 is a good ship. Check out how excited my student was after
his first time over 6K:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Northwest-Sky-Sports/129861727032953?ref=ts

Boggs

Paul[_2_]
May 1st 11, 07:26 PM
On May 1, 11:09*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
> The 2-33 is a good ship. *Check out how excited my student was after
> his first time over 6K:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Northwest-Sky-Sports/129861727032953?r...
>
> Boggs

Yep, another satisfied customer.

I learned to fly in the 2-33 and got my private and commercial
licenses in it. My memories of it are therefore bathed in a nice rosy
glow, but I want to go on record that Tubby the Trainer has many
virtues. If you can't manage to have fun in it, the fault is not with
the aircraft.

It's a nice ship to give rides in; it's pretty easy for first-timers
to get in and out of, comfortable to sit in, and visibility is good.
(From the front seat, that is. My friend Don Turner observed that
"Although the back seat is very uncomfortable, you can't see
anything." Well, nothing is perfect.)

It really is pretty safe. The elevator won't let you point the nose up
very sharply, and even when it does stall, it doesn't want to spin. I
know, I know, everyone needs spin training, but (in my view) low-time
students don't need a glider that's easy to spin.

It's pretty hard to break. Some of my early landing left dents in the
turf, but none in the glider.

The wheel brake actually works, a nice contrast to some more expensive
machines. I would rather be able to stop quickly than have to look for
something cheap to hit.

If you should land out in it, you will find out who your friends are.
Anyone who will help you dismantle and trailer this thing is a true
friend.

Anyway, long live the 2-33.

p.

Ralph Jones[_3_]
May 3rd 11, 12:38 AM
On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:08:52 +0200, John Smith
> wrote:

>Bart wrote:
>> Well, what other two seaters are there in the <20k price range? Are
>> there any?
>
>My sofa was way cheaper and has about the same glide ratio.

Well, he said made of gold, right? That's 7.1 times as heavy as
aluminum...;-)

rj

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