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Gary Boggs
June 5th 11, 05:07 PM
The authorities that govern our airport have adopted this new
ordinance regulating activity here. What do you think?
http://www.portofhoodriver.com/airport/Ordinance%2023.php
I have filed a complaint with the FAA. We will see what they think
soon.
Boggs
vaughn[_3_]
June 5th 11, 05:22 PM
"GARY BOGGS" > wrote in message
...
> The authorities that govern our airport have adopted this new
> ordinance regulating activity here. What do you think?
>
> http://www.portofhoodriver.com/airport/Ordinance%2023.php
>
> I have filed a complaint with the FAA. We will see what they think
> soon.
Among other issues: Did they really mean to prohibit self-launching motor
gliders?
"e. Only a tow plane shall be used to launch a Glider, unless the Glider pilot
has written permission from the Port, or is permitted by the terms of a
Concession Agreement, to do so."
Vaughn
Gary Boggs
June 5th 11, 05:31 PM
I am encouraging any and all pilots to join me in filing complaints
with the FAA. Please send your thoughts to:
Or:
Boggs
Gary Boggs
June 5th 11, 05:35 PM
And, or:
On Jun 5, 9:31*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
> I am encouraging any and all pilots to join me in filing complaints
> with the FAA. *Please send your thoughts to:
>
>
>
> Or:
>
>
>
> Boggs
Gary Boggs
June 5th 11, 05:39 PM
When I asked the port what authority they had to enact these new laws
this was their response:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua5W90FQSGk
Boggs
On Jun 5, 12:07*pm, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
> The authorities that govern our airport have adopted this new
> ordinance regulating activity here. *What do you think?
>
> http://www.portofhoodriver.com/airport/Ordinance%2023.php
>
> I have filed a complaint with the FAA. *We will see what they think
> soon.
>
> Boggs
What did you guys do to work them up enough to write all this up?
Someone had to be pretty mad at you guys to go to this much effort to
exert this level of control.
Larry Goddard
June 6th 11, 04:15 AM
"SF" > wrote in message
:
> On Jun 5, 12:07*pm, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
> > The authorities that govern our airport have adopted this new
> > ordinance regulating activity here. *What do you think?
> >
> > http://www.portofhoodriver.com/airport/Ordinance%2023.php
> >
> > I have filed a complaint with the FAA. *We will see what they think
> > soon.
> >
> > Boggs
>
> What did you guys do to work them up enough to write all this up?
> Someone had to be pretty mad at you guys to go to this much effort to
> exert this level of control.
IMHO, not necessarily... Remember "There is no kingdom so small that
someone doesn't want to rule it with an iron fist."
Larry
"Zero One"
mgh3485
June 6th 11, 04:39 PM
In Section 27 they claim that an FAA request was behind their action,
and then go on to declare this to be an "emergency" situation (which I
assume allowed for immediate enactment without comment or waiting
periods).
It states: "Because it is important to reduce risks of harm to persons
and property associated with Airport use as soon as possible due to
increasing Airport use in spring and summer, and because the FAA has
requested the Port to enact an ordinance regulating certain Airport
activities, therefore, an emergency is declared to exist. This
Ordinance shall take effect immediately upon passage."
It would be interesting to see exactly what the FAA requested
(assuming such a request exists).
Also, having never been there to see what operations used to be like,
it is hard to tell how limiting these new restrictions are. Were you
doing vehicle tow launches? Were you leaving gliders tied down in
restricted areas for more than 20 minutes as a matter of practice?
How will this change your operations?
Mike
jim archer
June 6th 11, 04:44 PM
On Jun 5, 9:07*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
> The authorities that govern our airport have adopted this new
> ordinance regulating activity here. *What do you think?
>
> http://www.portofhoodriver.com/airport/Ordinance%2023.php
>
> I have filed a complaint with the FAA. *We will see what they think
> soon.
>
> Boggs
Unlikely the FAA will do anything about it since they themselves
supposedly "requested" action be taken:
SECTION 27. Declaration of Emergency. This Ordinance is being enacted
to protect the health and safety of persons who use the Airport, and
the general public... ...and because
the FAA has requested the Port to enact an ordinance regulating
certain Airport activities, therefore, an emergency is declared to
exist. This Ordinance shall take effect immediately upon passage.
Boggs, can you give us some background as to how it has gotten to this
point at Hood River?
Gary Boggs
June 6th 11, 05:01 PM
We have been staging on the SE corner of the airport, about 80ft from
the edge of the runway. We have a perfect safety record and we blend
very well with the small amount of power traffic that we share our
public airport with. The main reason for whatever action the FAA
might have called for is that a grass runway was put in between the
main runway and the taxi way on the north side of the runway. The
port is now requiring the gliders to stage more than 1000ft up the
3000ft runway, which will greatly lower our margins for safety on
takeoff. We will either have to back taxi 1000+ feet back down the
only runway for every flight, tying up the active runway. or leave
1000 feet of runway behind us. Neither option is as good as the way
we have been safely operating for decades now. The requirement that
only one aircraft at a time is allowed on the taxi ways will be very
interesting during our fly-ins when many dozens of aircraft will want
to depart at the same time.
Boggs
Did you, perchance, let a large gopher snake loose in the airport
commission meeting? ;)
Gary Boggs
June 8th 11, 02:05 PM
I guess those that know me know the problem?...
That was fun, wasn't it?
Boggs
(Still having fun!)
On Jun 7, 11:22*pm, " > wrote:
> Did you, perchance, let a large gopher snake loose in the airport
> commission meeting? ;)
Gary Boggs
June 8th 11, 02:08 PM
Ah, I guess those that know me, know the problem?...
That was fun, wasn't it?
Boggs
(Still having too much fun!)
On Jun 7, 11:22*pm, " > wrote:
> Did you, perchance, let a large gopher snake loose in the airport
> commission meeting? ;)
Gary Boggs
June 8th 11, 02:14 PM
Oops.
Absolutely fun. Nice snake. Kinda separated the townies from the
country folk.
Rock On, Gary!
Jay McDaniel[_2_]
June 11th 11, 04:38 PM
On Jun 8, 10:10*pm, " > wrote:
> Absolutely fun. *Nice snake. *Kinda separated the townies from the
> country folk.
>
> Rock On, Gary!
I remember a snake being released at a glider safety meeting at the
Tonopah airport many years back.
Looks like "flying credit cards" aren't Gary's ONLY tricks...
Jay
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