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rlovinggood
July 6th 11, 08:21 PM
This was an interesting article by the Secretary of the US Department
of Transportation, Ray LaHood:
http://fastlane.dot.gov/2011/07/alaskan-practice-runway.html#tp
Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
LS1-d
Pete[_8_]
July 7th 11, 06:05 PM
Ray:
This is actually not a bad idea. Its better to try narrow , short
field landing on a nice wide runway than to start someplace like this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pdbrown170b/2526658583/
A variation on this idea might make sense at some glider operations to
let beginners demonstrate their spot landig ability.
Pete
Anchorage
n Jul 6, 11:21*am, rlovinggood > wrote:
> This was an interesting article by the Secretary of the US Department
> of Transportation, Ray LaHood:
>
> http://fastlane.dot.gov/2011/07/alaskan-practice-runway.html#tp
>
> Ray Lovinggood
> Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
> LS1-d
rlovinggood
July 7th 11, 08:22 PM
Pete,
Since some of us are pretty "regulars" at off-field landings (Allez
aux vache...), I was thinking more of the legal aspect. Say you land
somewhere other than an airport and a law inforcement guy shows up, or
a private property land owner, and they are frowning. Might be good
to have a little ammo in the back pocket of "The Federal Government
not only approves of off-field landings, but encourages the training
of it as well..."
Add that ammo to the "Any port in a storm".
I did land once in hay field rented and cropped by a county sheriff
once. He was not happy. Not happy at all. Don't know if telling him
the Federal Government didn't mind would have made him smile. But
it's better than nothing.
Ray
Mike the Strike
July 8th 11, 12:36 AM
On Jul 7, 12:22*pm, rlovinggood > wrote:
> Pete,
>
> Since some of us are pretty "regulars" at off-field landings (Allez
> aux vache...), I was thinking more of the legal aspect. *Say you land
> somewhere other than an airport and a law inforcement guy shows up, or
> a private property land owner, and they are frowning. *Might be good
> to have a little ammo in the back pocket of "The Federal Government
> not only approves of off-field landings, but encourages the training
> of it as well..."
>
> Add that ammo to the "Any port in a storm".
>
> I did land once in hay field rented and cropped by a county sheriff
> once. *He was not happy. *Not happy at all. Don't know if telling him
> the Federal Government didn't mind would have made him smile. *But
> it's better than nothing.
>
> Ray
Don't EVER land in an asparagus field!
....and don't ask me how I know!
Mike
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
July 8th 11, 12:47 AM
On 7/7/2011 4:36 PM, Mike the Strike wrote:
> On Jul 7, 12:22 pm, > wrote:
>> Pete,
>>
>> Since some of us are pretty "regulars" at off-field landings (Allez
>> aux vache...), I was thinking more of the legal aspect. Say you land
>> somewhere other than an airport and a law inforcement guy shows up, or
>> a private property land owner, and they are frowning. Might be good
>> to have a little ammo in the back pocket of "The Federal Government
>> not only approves of off-field landings, but encourages the training
>> of it as well..."
>>
>> Add that ammo to the "Any port in a storm".
>>
>> I did land once in hay field rented and cropped by a county sheriff
>> once. He was not happy. Not happy at all. Don't know if telling him
>> the Federal Government didn't mind would have made him smile. But
>> it's better than nothing.
>>
>> Ray
>
> Don't EVER land in an asparagus field!
>
> ...and don't ask me how I know!
But it was only money, right? Not like landing in a hopfield, where you
might die before any of the parts get down to the ground.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Yakima-Valley-Hop-Yard.jpg
Yes, we have both hopfields and asparagus in our area. It is fairly easy
to know it's a hopfield, at least.
--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
Andy[_1_]
July 8th 11, 12:51 AM
On Jul 7, 4:36*pm, Mike the Strike > wrote:
> On Jul 7, 12:22*pm, rlovinggood > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Pete,
>
> > Since some of us are pretty "regulars" at off-field landings (Allez
> > aux vache...), I was thinking more of the legal aspect. *Say you land
> > somewhere other than an airport and a law inforcement guy shows up, or
> > a private property land owner, and they are frowning. *Might be good
> > to have a little ammo in the back pocket of "The Federal Government
> > not only approves of off-field landings, but encourages the training
> > of it as well..."
>
> > Add that ammo to the "Any port in a storm".
>
> > I did land once in hay field rented and cropped by a county sheriff
> > once. *He was not happy. *Not happy at all. Don't know if telling him
> > the Federal Government didn't mind would have made him smile. *But
> > it's better than nothing.
>
> > Ray
>
> Don't EVER land in an asparagus field!
>
> ...and don't ask me how I know!
>
> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Was it Rommels?
Andy
Berry[_2_]
July 8th 11, 09:01 PM
In article
>,
rlovinggood > wrote:
> Pete,
>
> Since some of us are pretty "regulars" at off-field landings (Allez
> aux vache...), I was thinking more of the legal aspect. Say you land
> somewhere other than an airport and a law inforcement guy shows up, or
> a private property land owner, and they are frowning. Might be good
> to have a little ammo in the back pocket of "The Federal Government
> not only approves of off-field landings, but encourages the training
> of it as well..."
>
> Add that ammo to the "Any port in a storm".
>
> I did land once in hay field rented and cropped by a county sheriff
> once. He was not happy. Not happy at all. Don't know if telling him
> the Federal Government didn't mind would have made him smile. But
> it's better than nothing.
>
> Ray
Growing up in NorCalina (North Carolina, U.S. for northerners and other
foreigners) I know that crashing and dying is preferable to landing in
something as expensive as Tobacco. So, after landing out on one of the
suicide days at the recent U.S. Sports Nationals, it was with the utmost
horror I realized that I had landed in a very recently set tobacco
field. The landowner was not happy about it, either. That is, until
seeing my glider sitting in the field, he exclaimed "You didn't hit a
single plant"! After a few minutes conversation about 'bakker and other
agricultural topics (it helps to know the difference between burley and
bright leaf), we were hitting it off like old friends. I ended up
spending an enjoyable Saturday afternoon with a very lovely family.
The backstory to this outlanding is that I had found myself very low
over more-or-less unlandable ground and had to backtrack a few miles to
an area I had previously identified as having good landing sites.
Arriving at my choice of primary landing site at about 800 feet agl, I
was discomfited to find that an SZD-55 was sitting in the middle of it!
There was probably ample room for me to land there, but an alternate
field was just across the interstate and looked fine. Other than turning
out to be a tobacco field, it was great. Landing uphill, into the wind,
into freshly tilled earth makes for a gentle landing and short rollout.
WB
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