Cheap self-rig system demonstration

[Frank Paynter[_2_]]

Evan Ludeman (T8) took this video of me assembling my Ventus 2bx at
Wurtsboro last week, using my el-cheapo single-rig system. The video
has not been edited in any way, and assembly that morning was actually
a little slower than usual ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRipsiPgdk

TA

[mike]

On Jul 13, 8:42*pm, Frank Paynter > wrote:
> Evan Ludeman (T8) took this video of me assembling my Ventus 2bx at
> Wurtsboro last week, using my el-cheapo single-rig system. *The video
> has not been edited in any way, and assembly that morning was actually
> a little slower than usual ;-)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRipsiPgdk
>
> TA

Pretty slick!

[CLewis95]

On Jul 13, 10:06*pm, mike > wrote:
> On Jul 13, 8:42*pm, Frank Paynter > wrote:
>
> > Evan Ludeman (T8) took this video of me assembling my Ventus 2bx at
> > Wurtsboro last week, using my el-cheapo single-rig system. *The video
> > has not been edited in any way, and assembly that morning was actually
> > a little slower than usual ;-)
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRipsiPgdk
>
> > TA
>
> Pretty slick!

VERY NICE! ... Frank you can sure tell all those contest assemblies
are paying off ... ~7minute On-Man Assy.

Curt - 95

[Mike the Strike]

On Jul 13, 8:06*pm, mike > wrote:
> On Jul 13, 8:42*pm, Frank Paynter > wrote:
>
> > Evan Ludeman (T8) took this video of me assembling my Ventus 2bx at
> > Wurtsboro last week, using my el-cheapo single-rig system. *The video
> > has not been edited in any way, and assembly that morning was actually
> > a little slower than usual ;-)
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRipsiPgdk
>
> > TA
>
> Pretty slick!

Yes indeed - very slick indeed.

How would you do that on a rock and gravel surface?

Mike

[Gary[_5_]]

On Jul 13, 10:42*pm, Frank Paynter > wrote:
> Evan Ludeman (T8) took this video of me assembling my Ventus 2bx at
> Wurtsboro last week, using my el-cheapo single-rig system. *The video
> has not been edited in any way, and assembly that morning was actually
> a little slower than usual ;-)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRipsiPgdk
>
> TA

Wow!! We're going to talk when you get home! What are the tubes?

Gary Adams GA2

[Eric Greenwell[_4_]]

On 7/13/2011 7:42 PM, Frank Paynter wrote:
> Evan Ludeman (T8) took this video of me assembling my Ventus 2bx at
> Wurtsboro last week, using my el-cheapo single-rig system. The video
> has not been edited in any way, and assembly that morning was actually
> a little slower than usual ;-)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRipsiPgdk

Very nice! But why do you put the gear down before rigging? Wouldn't it
be easier if the fuselage was lowered as much as possible?

Also, with the hydraulic jack, there is the possibility it will leak
down (or someone will accidentally trip/kick the release lever) before a
wing is on it, and let the fuselage tip over.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm
http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl

[GM]

On Jul 13, 10:42*pm, Frank Paynter > wrote:
> Evan Ludeman (T8) took this video of me assembling my Ventus 2bx at
> Wurtsboro last week, using my el-cheapo single-rig system. *The video
> has not been edited in any way, and assembly that morning was actually
> a little slower than usual ;-)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRipsiPgdk
>
> TA

Hi Frank,
amazing! What are these rolls you are using to lay the wings on?
Anyhow, the time to beat is ...... ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG_nEAfdnD0&feature=fvwrel
GM

[Andy[_1_]]

On Jul 13, 7:42*pm, Frank Paynter > wrote:
> Evan Ludeman (T8) took this video of me assembling my Ventus 2bx at
> Wurtsboro last week, using my el-cheapo single-rig system. *The video
> has not been edited in any way, and assembly that morning was actually
> a little slower than usual ;-)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRipsiPgdk
>
> TA

How much wear do you have on the bottoms of the spar stubs and the
base of the fuselage spar box?

Even lifting the wing root into place during 2 man rig will produce
some rubbing there. One of the nice things about a good one man rig
is the the wear in that area is almost eliminated.

Andy

[Dan Marotta]

Holy wing stand, Batman...

I was rigging my Mosquito B like that out of a Pfeiffer trailer 25 years
ago. It's good to see that there are other geniuses in the world besides
just me! ;-)

Of course, I only did it on grass...

"Frank Paynter" > wrote in message
...
> Evan Ludeman (T8) took this video of me assembling my Ventus 2bx at
> Wurtsboro last week, using my el-cheapo single-rig system. The video
> has not been edited in any way, and assembly that morning was actually
> a little slower than usual ;-)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRipsiPgdk
>
> TA

[Tony[_5_]]

love it! fastest wings in the east lol

[Grider Pirate[_2_]]

On Jul 13, 7:42*pm, Frank Paynter > wrote:
> Evan Ludeman (T8) took this video of me assembling my Ventus 2bx at
> Wurtsboro last week, using my el-cheapo single-rig system. *The video
> has not been edited in any way, and assembly that morning was actually
> a little slower than usual ;-)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRipsiPgdk
>
> TA

Elegant! That's the simplist solution I've ever seen. Even though it
wouldn't work for my glider (and many others I suspect) I still admire
the simplicity and effectiveness.

[T8]

On Jul 13, 10:42*pm, Frank Paynter > wrote:
> Evan Ludeman (T8) took this video of me assembling my Ventus 2bx at
> Wurtsboro last week, using my el-cheapo single-rig system. *The video
> has not been edited in any way, and assembly that morning was actually
> a little slower than usual ;-)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRipsiPgdk
>
> TA

I'll vouch for the fact that this was the second slowest assembly I
saw Frank do all week... the slowest was when he did it with help!

To respond to Andy's comment about wear on the fuselage from wing
spars: stick a little spare mylar seal material as a bearing surface
on the area where the spar tends to rub on the fuselage. Problem
solved.

-Evan Ludeman / T8

[Gary Ittner[_2_]]

"Frank Paynter" > wrote in message
...
> Evan Ludeman (T8) took this video of me assembling my Ventus 2bx at
> Wurtsboro last week, using my el-cheapo single-rig system. The video
> has not been edited in any way, and assembly that morning was actually
> a little slower than usual ;-)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRipsiPgdk
>
> TA

Very good, Frank.

One suggestion: If you were to insert the left wing first, as per the
Schempp-Hirth flight manual, you could insert the main pin part-ways into
the left spar stub to prevent the first wing being pushed out while the
second wing is inserted. This would eliminate the need for the second wing
stand and eliminate the need to walk back around to the first wingtip and
re-shove it into place. This one change would probably knock another 20% off
your rigging times.

Gary Ittner P7
"Have glider, will race"

[Ventus_a]

;777009']On 7/13/2011 7:42 PM, Frank Paynter wrote:
Evan Ludeman (T8) took this video of me assembling my Ventus 2bx at
Wurtsboro last week, using my el-cheapo single-rig system. The video
has not been edited in any way, and assembly that morning was actually
a little slower than usual ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRipsiPgdk

Very nice! But why do you put the gear down before rigging? Wouldn't it
be easier if the fuselage was lowered as much as possible?

Also, with the hydraulic jack, there is the possibility it will leak
down (or someone will accidentally trip/kick the release lever) before a
wing is on it, and let the fuselage tip over.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm
http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl

Pretty slick Frank

Further to Eric's point about leaving the wheel up, I use the jack to raise or lower the fuse for final wing alignment on my Nimbus3D. Saves walking out and adjusting the wing stands and the main pin goes in real easy. I also put the left wing in first so the partially inserted pin keeps the wing in place

Cheers
Colin

[Frank Paynter[_2_]]

On Jul 14, 4:16*pm, Ventus_a >
wrote:
> 'Eric Greenwell[_4_ Wrote:
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> > ;777009']On 7/13/2011 7:42 PM, Frank Paynter wrote:-
> > Evan Ludeman (T8) took this video of me assembling my Ventus 2bx at
> > Wurtsboro last week, using my el-cheapo single-rig system. *The video
> > has not been edited in any way, and assembly that morning was actually
> > a little slower than usual ;-)
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcRipsiPgdk-
>
> > Very nice! But why do you put the gear down before rigging? Wouldn't it
> > be easier if the fuselage was lowered as much as possible?
>
> > Also, with the hydraulic jack, there is the possibility it will leak
> > down (or someone will accidentally trip/kick the release lever) before a
>
> > wing is on it, and let the fuselage tip over.
>
> > --
> > Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
> > email me)
> > - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm
> >http://tinyurl.com/yb3xywl
>
> Pretty slick Frank
>
> Further to Eric's point about leaving the wheel up, I use the jack to
> raise or lower the fuse for final wing alignment on my Nimbus3D. Saves
> walking out and adjusting the wing stands and the main pin goes in real
> easy. *I also put the left wing in first so the partially inserted pin
> keeps the wing in place
>
> Cheers
> Colin
>
> --
> Ventus_a

To reply to several people at once:

- I started out putting the left wing in first, but found that the
spar kept slipping backwards into the space where the right wing spar
comes through. This meant I had to iterate several times out to the
left wingtip and back to get it fully inserted, and it was apparent
that there was a significant danger of the left wing coming off its
stand during this operation. Putting the right wing on first
completely eliminates this problem at the cost of not being able to
half-pin the right wing before putting the left one one. Believe me,
I tried this both ways many times and am convinced the right wing
first method is much faster and much safer.

I put the gear down because that gives me a good calibration of the
fuselage height off the ground (about 1/2 inch clearance of the wheel
is what I'm after). I agree there is a slight possibility of the
hydraulic jack leaking down, so by all rights I should put the gear
down for height calibration, and then put it right back up again - I'm
just too lazy

The material inside the carpet roll is common 6" or 8" corrugated
drain tubing, available in 12' lengths from Lowes or Home Depot.

regarding gravel surfaces - that's no problem as the wingtips are
held several inches off the ground, and the carpet roll still works
fine. The nice thing about the carpet is even if it doesn't roll
(uneven ground), the wingtip will still slide on it. I've used this
on all sorts of surfaces (dirt, concrete, grass, gravel) and it works
great.

TA

[Eric Greenwell[_4_]]

On 7/15/2011 10:43 PM, Frank Paynter wrote:

>
> I put the gear down because that gives me a good calibration of the
> fuselage height off the ground (about 1/2 inch clearance of the wheel
> is what I'm after). I agree there is a slight possibility of the
> hydraulic jack leaking down, so by all rights I should put the gear
> down for height calibration, and then put it right back up again - I'm
> just too lazy

Perhaps you could just unlock the gear lever and pull the handle back in
the slot a ways - easier than retracting, and it will retract if the
jack bleeds down instead of holding the fuselage up.

I realize the possibility is small, but it's happened to several people,
causing severe canopy damage in at least one case. My personal
experience was catching my pant leg on the lever; fortunately, the gear
was not down, because the jack released immediately.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)