Mio S501 GPS

[Dan Marotta]

I just bought a LAK-17a (LOVE it, BTW) and I bought a used Mio S501 on the
net.

I have all the instructions for unlocking the Mio but can't get it to work.
The instructions begin with connecting the Mio to the PC as a mobile device.
I have a desktop running XP and Active Sync and a laptop running Vista and
Windows Mobile Device Center. Neither of these will connect to the Mio.

I can connect my Compaq 1550 to the XP machine via Active Sync but not to
the laptop using a USB to serial converter.

The unlock instructions would have me execute programs on the Mio through
the PC to get everything set up but, since I can't figure out how to connect
it (reading all the instructions over and over), I'm at a loss.

Currently, I can get a desktop on the Mio and, using File Manager, can start
LK8000 or XCSoar but neither of them will connect to the GPS function on the
Mio.

Any help out there?

Dan

[cfinn]

You might try this from the LK8000 hardware section:

For LK8000 to read the Mio GPS signal you must do the following
In LK8000 go to menu - config 2/3 – "setup system"
Go to page 8 "Devices"
Set Device A as Generic - Com2 - 57600
(if you are not using Device B then use the same settings)

Charlie

On Oct 5, 9:52*am, "Dan Marotta" > wrote:
> I just bought a LAK-17a (LOVE it, BTW) and I bought a used Mio S501 on the
> net.
>
> I have all the instructions for unlocking the Mio but can't get it to work.
> The instructions begin with connecting the Mio to the PC as a mobile device.
> I have a desktop running XP and Active Sync and a laptop running Vista and
> Windows Mobile Device Center. *Neither of these will connect to the Mio..
>
> I can connect my Compaq 1550 to the XP machine via Active Sync but not to
> the laptop using a USB to serial converter.
>
> The unlock instructions would have me execute programs on the Mio through
> the PC to get everything set up but, since I can't figure out how to connect
> it (reading all the instructions over and over), I'm at a loss.
>
> Currently, I can get a desktop on the Mio and, using File Manager, can start
> LK8000 or XCSoar but neither of them will connect to the GPS function on the
> Mio.
>
> Any help out there?
>
> Dan

[Dan Marotta]

Thanks, Charlie, I'll give it a try.

I'm the duty tow pilot today but will take the laptop, Mio, etc with me to
the airport and work on this during down time. It doesn't look that great
at Moriarty today anyway...

Dan


"cfinn" > wrote in message
...
You might try this from the LK8000 hardware section:

For LK8000 to read the Mio GPS signal you must do the following
In LK8000 go to menu - config 2/3 – "setup system"
Go to page 8 "Devices"
Set Device A as Generic - Com2 - 57600
(if you are not using Device B then use the same settings)

Charlie

On Oct 5, 9:52 am, "Dan Marotta" > wrote:
> I just bought a LAK-17a (LOVE it, BTW) and I bought a used Mio S501 on the
> net.
>
> I have all the instructions for unlocking the Mio but can't get it to
> work.
> The instructions begin with connecting the Mio to the PC as a mobile
> device.
> I have a desktop running XP and Active Sync and a laptop running Vista and
> Windows Mobile Device Center. Neither of these will connect to the Mio.
>
> I can connect my Compaq 1550 to the XP machine via Active Sync but not to
> the laptop using a USB to serial converter.
>
> The unlock instructions would have me execute programs on the Mio through
> the PC to get everything set up but, since I can't figure out how to
> connect
> it (reading all the instructions over and over), I'm at a loss.
>
> Currently, I can get a desktop on the Mio and, using File Manager, can
> start
> LK8000 or XCSoar but neither of them will connect to the GPS function on
> the
> Mio.
>
> Any help out there?
>
> Dan

[Brian[_1_]]

I am certainly not an expert on it, but have done it once on a similar
Mio.

I seems to recall you may have put file an and SD Card and restart the
mio with the SD card installed to unlock it, ie bypass the default
navigation software.

You may want to search for something like MIO S501 UNLOCK

Brian

[Dan Marotta]

Been here, done this...

http://navmanunlocked.wikispaces.com/Unlock

Check step 2 Connecting the device.
Connect your device by the USB cable to your PC.

This does not work for me. The Mio is seen by the laptop as simply a remote
disk. I can move files onto the SD card either while it's installed in the
Mio or in the slot on my laptop. If I run the unlock file on the laptop, I
can't install the desktop since that's for Windows CE. If I try to run it
on the Mio, I'm told that the program doesn't work on this operating system.

I know that I'm supposed to connect via Womdows Mobile Device Center, but,
when I try that, the Mio is seen as simply a disk and not a windows mobile
device, hence no connection.


"Brian" > wrote in message
...
>I am certainly not an expert on it, but have done it once on a similar
> Mio.
>
> I seems to recall you may have put file an and SD Card and restart the
> mio with the SD card installed to unlock it, ie bypass the default
> navigation software.
>
> You may want to search for something like MIO S501 UNLOCK
>
> Brian
>

[Allan[_4_]]

To unlock the Mio
1. Go to http://www.mediafire.com/?ytgjnkngqdx and download
mio_moov_unlock.zip

2. Extract mio_moov_unlock.zip into a folder on your computer - NOT
the Mio M400

3. Plug your M400 into your computer using a USB data cable then turn
on the M400 and wait for the communications screen.

4. Open the folder where you stored the extracted mio_moov_unlock.
Double click on Setup.exe. When the screen comes up click on "install
desktop". Then click on "close". Unplug the M400 USB cable, reset it
and turn it on again. It should now be unlocked and you will get a
Windows desktop with one Icon on it called SmartST (This is a Navigon
program called Smart Street used by Mio. If you press this icon it
will start the MioMap program and you will have to reset the M400
again to get back to the desktop)

5. Plug in the M400 with the USB cable and wait for the communications
screen. Transfer a copy of the LK8000 folder you are using from your
computer to the root directory of the M400. Unplug the M400 and wait
for the desktop.

6. On the M400 - click on "start" - click on "FileManCe" - click on
"My Flash Disk" - click on "LK8000" - click on "LK8000-PNA.exe" and
(roll of drums") LK8000 should start!

To set up desktop icons for LK8000 and for Rotate Screen

1. On the M400 - click on "start" - click on "FileManCe" - click on
"My Flash Disk" - click on "LK8000". Highlight the file LK8000-PNA.exe
- click on "file" (top left corner of desktop and it might be
partially obscured by the Windows logo) - click on "create shortcut"
and it will create the file LK8000-PNA.lnk. Do not close "FileManCe" –
continue with step 2.

2. Click on _SYSTEM – click on _CEUtilities. Highlight the file
ROTATE.EXE - click on "file" (top left corner of desktop and it might
be partially obscured by the Windows logo) - click on "create
shortcut" and it will create the file ROTATE.lnk. Close "FileManCe".

3. Plug the M400 into your computer and wait for the communications
screen.

4. On your computer (not the M400) Open the folder \Mio Device\LK8000
and copy the file LK8000-PNA.lnk and paste it into the folder \Mio
Device\Program Files\Unlock\Desktop - when you do this DO NOT TRY TO
OPEN the Desktop folder - just paste the file on to it.

5. On your computer (not the M400) Open the folder \Mio Device
\LK8000\_SYSTEM\_CEUtilities and copy the file ROTATE.lnk and paste it
into the folder \Mio Device\Program Files\Unlock\Desktop - again DO
NOT TRY TO OPEN the Desktop folder - just paste the file on to it.

6. Unplug the M400 USB cable and you will have three icons on the desk
top. LK8000, SmartST (MioMap) and Rotate.

For LK8000 to read the Mio GPS signal you must do the following
In LK8000 go to menu - config 2/3 – "setup system"
Go to page 8 "Devices"
Set Device A as Generic - Com2 - 57600
(if you are not using Device B then use the same settings)

[Dan Marotta]

Thanks for some great help, Allan.

Last night, I spoke with Wells Morse and he helped me get the MIO unlocked.

I'm now reviewing the XCSoar manual trying to get the Moriarty turnpoints,
terrain, and special use airspace files loaded. I'm sure it's simply a
matter of getting the file structure correct.

Dan



"Allan" > wrote in message
...

To unlock the Mio
1. Go to http://www.mediafire.com/?ytgjnkngqdx and download
mio_moov_unlock.zip

2. Extract mio_moov_unlock.zip into a folder on your computer - NOT
the Mio M400

3. Plug your M400 into your computer using a USB data cable then turn
on the M400 and wait for the communications screen.

4. Open the folder where you stored the extracted mio_moov_unlock.
Double click on Setup.exe. When the screen comes up click on "install
desktop". Then click on "close". Unplug the M400 USB cable, reset it
and turn it on again. It should now be unlocked and you will get a
Windows desktop with one Icon on it called SmartST (This is a Navigon
program called Smart Street used by Mio. If you press this icon it
will start the MioMap program and you will have to reset the M400
again to get back to the desktop)

5. Plug in the M400 with the USB cable and wait for the communications
screen. Transfer a copy of the LK8000 folder you are using from your
computer to the root directory of the M400. Unplug the M400 and wait
for the desktop.

6. On the M400 - click on "start" - click on "FileManCe" - click on
"My Flash Disk" - click on "LK8000" - click on "LK8000-PNA.exe" and
(roll of drums") LK8000 should start!

To set up desktop icons for LK8000 and for Rotate Screen

1. On the M400 - click on "start" - click on "FileManCe" - click on
"My Flash Disk" - click on "LK8000". Highlight the file LK8000-PNA.exe
- click on "file" (top left corner of desktop and it might be
partially obscured by the Windows logo) - click on "create shortcut"
and it will create the file LK8000-PNA.lnk. Do not close "FileManCe" –
continue with step 2.

2. Click on _SYSTEM – click on _CEUtilities. Highlight the file
ROTATE.EXE - click on "file" (top left corner of desktop and it might
be partially obscured by the Windows logo) - click on "create
shortcut" and it will create the file ROTATE.lnk. Close "FileManCe".

3. Plug the M400 into your computer and wait for the communications
screen.

4. On your computer (not the M400) Open the folder \Mio Device\LK8000
and copy the file LK8000-PNA.lnk and paste it into the folder \Mio
Device\Program Files\Unlock\Desktop - when you do this DO NOT TRY TO
OPEN the Desktop folder - just paste the file on to it.

5. On your computer (not the M400) Open the folder \Mio Device
\LK8000\_SYSTEM\_CEUtilities and copy the file ROTATE.lnk and paste it
into the folder \Mio Device\Program Files\Unlock\Desktop - again DO
NOT TRY TO OPEN the Desktop folder - just paste the file on to it.

6. Unplug the M400 USB cable and you will have three icons on the desk
top. LK8000, SmartST (MioMap) and Rotate.

For LK8000 to read the Mio GPS signal you must do the following
In LK8000 go to menu - config 2/3 – "setup system"
Go to page 8 "Devices"
Set Device A as Generic - Com2 - 57600
(if you are not using Device B then use the same settings)

[Dan Marotta]

Got it all running!

I was the duty tow pilot again today, but winds were 20 gusting 40 directly
across the runway, so no flying. It worked in the car, however!

Now I've gotta determine if there's a cable available or if I can build one
to connect the 302 serial port to the Mio USB port. That ought to give me a
$75 Clear Nav!

"Dan Marotta" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for some great help, Allan.
>
> Last night, I spoke with Wells Morse and he helped me get the MIO
> unlocked.
>
> I'm now reviewing the XCSoar manual trying to get the Moriarty turnpoints,
> terrain, and special use airspace files loaded. I'm sure it's simply a
> matter of getting the file structure correct.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> "Allan" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> To unlock the Mio
> 1. Go to http://www.mediafire.com/?ytgjnkngqdx and download
> mio_moov_unlock.zip
>
> 2. Extract mio_moov_unlock.zip into a folder on your computer - NOT
> the Mio M400
>
> 3. Plug your M400 into your computer using a USB data cable then turn
> on the M400 and wait for the communications screen.
>
> 4. Open the folder where you stored the extracted mio_moov_unlock.
> Double click on Setup.exe. When the screen comes up click on "install
> desktop". Then click on "close". Unplug the M400 USB cable, reset it
> and turn it on again. It should now be unlocked and you will get a
> Windows desktop with one Icon on it called SmartST (This is a Navigon
> program called Smart Street used by Mio. If you press this icon it
> will start the MioMap program and you will have to reset the M400
> again to get back to the desktop)
>
> 5. Plug in the M400 with the USB cable and wait for the communications
> screen. Transfer a copy of the LK8000 folder you are using from your
> computer to the root directory of the M400. Unplug the M400 and wait
> for the desktop.
>
> 6. On the M400 - click on "start" - click on "FileManCe" - click on
> "My Flash Disk" - click on "LK8000" - click on "LK8000-PNA.exe" and
> (roll of drums") LK8000 should start!
>
> To set up desktop icons for LK8000 and for Rotate Screen
>
> 1. On the M400 - click on "start" - click on "FileManCe" - click on
> "My Flash Disk" - click on "LK8000". Highlight the file LK8000-PNA.exe
> - click on "file" (top left corner of desktop and it might be
> partially obscured by the Windows logo) - click on "create shortcut"
> and it will create the file LK8000-PNA.lnk. Do not close "FileManCe" –
> continue with step 2.
>
> 2. Click on _SYSTEM – click on _CEUtilities. Highlight the file
> ROTATE.EXE - click on "file" (top left corner of desktop and it might
> be partially obscured by the Windows logo) - click on "create
> shortcut" and it will create the file ROTATE.lnk. Close "FileManCe".
>
> 3. Plug the M400 into your computer and wait for the communications
> screen.
>
> 4. On your computer (not the M400) Open the folder \Mio Device\LK8000
> and copy the file LK8000-PNA.lnk and paste it into the folder \Mio
> Device\Program Files\Unlock\Desktop - when you do this DO NOT TRY TO
> OPEN the Desktop folder - just paste the file on to it.
>
> 5. On your computer (not the M400) Open the folder \Mio Device
> \LK8000\_SYSTEM\_CEUtilities and copy the file ROTATE.lnk and paste it
> into the folder \Mio Device\Program Files\Unlock\Desktop - again DO
> NOT TRY TO OPEN the Desktop folder - just paste the file on to it.
>
> 6. Unplug the M400 USB cable and you will have three icons on the desk
> top. LK8000, SmartST (MioMap) and Rotate.
>
> For LK8000 to read the Mio GPS signal you must do the following
> In LK8000 go to menu - config 2/3 – "setup system"
> Go to page 8 "Devices"
> Set Device A as Generic - Com2 - 57600
> (if you are not using Device B then use the same settings)
>
>

[cfinn]

Here's a cable for you with a 12 to 5 volt power supply:
http://www.glidertools.com/news/rs-232-o-usb-converter-with-12-5v-switching-power-supply/.

Charlie

[Allan[_4_]]

This should do it. Allan.

http://www.glidertools.com/products/converter-rs232-to-usb-for-pna-with-switching-power-supply-5v/



On Oct 6, 6:38*pm, "Dan Marotta" > wrote:
> Got it all running!
>
> I was the duty tow pilot again today, but winds were 20 gusting 40 directly
> across the runway, so no flying. *It worked in the car, however!
>
> Now I've gotta determine if there's a cable available or if I can build one
> to connect the 302 serial port to the Mio USB port. *That ought to give me a
> $75 Clear Nav!
>
> "Dan Marotta" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>

[MikeCarris]

On 10/6/2011 5:56 PM, Allan wrote:
> This should do it. Allan.
>
> http://www.glidertools.com/products/converter-rs232-to-usb-for-pna-with-switching-power-supply-5v/
>
>
>
> On Oct 6, 6:38 pm, "Dan > wrote:
>> Got it all running!
>>
>> I was the duty tow pilot again today, but winds were 20 gusting 40 directly
>> across the runway, so no flying. It worked in the car, however!
>>
>> Now I've gotta determine if there's a cable available or if I can build one
>> to connect the 302 serial port to the Mio USB port. That ought to give me a
>> $75 Clear Nav!
>>
>> "Dan > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
I have one of the cables Allan has linked to. Unused, if you would like
one. Since purchasing the Nano and Android Streak, I have no need for it.

[Dan Marotta]

Wow! Thanks.

I'm reconsidering but still enjoying hearing about all that's available in
the world. The Mio S501 has its own internal logger which, I believe, is
valid for OLC claims. I also have a Cambridge 302 connected to a Compaq
Aero 1550 running Glide Navigator II, so I'm good for badges (got 'em all)
and records (not interested).

It appears that, running XCSoar, I'll have all the GPS functions from the
internal reciever and the glide functions are synthesized from GPS data and
displayed on a 3D terrain map. I can compare these to the actual readings
displayed on the Compaq. This is gonna be fun! Now, if the weather would
only cooperate on the days that I'm not towing or hiking with my Sweetie...


"cfinn" > wrote in message
...
> Here's a cable for you with a 12 to 5 volt power supply:
> http://www.glidertools.com/news/rs-232-o-usb-converter-with-12-5v-switching-power-supply/.
>
> Charlie

[Dan Marotta]

Will you let me try it out first?

And... Have you talked to Bob about that turn and bank indicator? I'm
looking at one of these, http://www.pcflightsystems.com/EGYRO2.htm, to
replace the 8-day clock in the panel...

My first tow is at 1015 this morning. If you're coming to the airport,
please bring the cable and, maybe, we can try it out in the hangar...


"MikeCarris" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/6/2011 5:56 PM, Allan wrote:
>> This should do it. Allan.
>>
>> http://www.glidertools.com/products/converter-rs232-to-usb-for-pna-with-switching-power-supply-5v/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 6, 6:38 pm, "Dan > wrote:
>>> Got it all running!
>>>
>>> I was the duty tow pilot again today, but winds were 20 gusting 40
>>> directly
>>> across the runway, so no flying. It worked in the car, however!
>>>
>>> Now I've gotta determine if there's a cable available or if I can build
>>> one
>>> to connect the 302 serial port to the Mio USB port. That ought to give
>>> me a
>>> $75 Clear Nav!
>>>
>>> "Dan > wrote in message
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
> I have one of the cables Allan has linked to. Unused, if you would like
> one. Since purchasing the Nano and Android Streak, I have no need for it.

[Dan Marotta]

Thanks for that additional information on LK8000. I haven't tried it yet,
but have the XCSoar working and now I'm having fun learning how to use it.
Unfortunately, the weather hasn't been too cooperative since I got it
working...


"Martin Gregorie" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 08:58:17 -0600, Dan Marotta wrote:
>
>> Thanks for some great help, Allan.
>>
>> Last night, I spoke with Wells Morse and he helped me get the MIO
>> unlocked.
>>
>> I'm now reviewing the XCSoar manual trying to get the Moriarty
>> turnpoints, terrain, and special use airspace files loaded. I'm sure
>> it's simply a matter of getting the file structure correct.
>>
> Don't confuse the two: LK8000 and XCSoar put files in completely
> different places.
>
> In LK8000 the various data files go into the appropriate subfolders in
> the LK8000 folder (airspace into _Airspaces, turnpoints into _Waypoints,
> maps into _Maps and the profiles (which hold your settings) are in
> _Configuration
>
> XCSoar puts the lot in the XCSoarData directory. I'd first try putting
> XCSoarData in the root of the flash memory. If that doesn't work, try
> moving it into the documents directory.
>
>
> --
> martin@ | Martin Gregorie
> gregorie. | Essex, UK
> org |