Disclosure Imminent? Eight + Underground NWO Bases Destroyed? [Archive]

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 8th 11, 03:22 PM

Tom wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:31:48 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>> Quaalude wrote:
>>> "...in addition to the first 8, *MANY* additional bases have now had
>>> all personnel and materials mysteriously removed. It happened within
>>> the last week. In this case, the rooms are still there, but they are
>>> now empty -- except for some broken pieces of furniture."
>>>
>>> https://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
>>
>> Ah the website of kook central.
>>
>> Keith
>
> Why do you say that?

Its an amusing mix of ignorance and plain kookiness

I especially liked the claim that the Vatican bank had been
secretly controlling the world since the time of Julius Caesar
who of course died in 44 BC.

Keith

Tom[_15_]

October 8th 11, 04:11 PM

On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 15:22:08 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:

> Tom wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:31:48 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>
>>> Quaalude wrote:
>>>> "...in addition to the first 8, *MANY* additional bases have now had
>>>> all personnel and materials mysteriously removed. It happened within
>>>> the last week. In this case, the rooms are still there, but they are
>>>> now empty -- except for some broken pieces of furniture."
>>>>
>>>> https://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
>>>
>>> Ah the website of kook central.
>>>
>>> Keith
>>
>> Why do you say that?
>
> Its an amusing mix of ignorance and plain kookiness

Hm.

> I especially liked the claim that the Vatican bank had been secretly
> controlling the world since the time of Julius Caesar who of course
> died in 44 BC.

The Knights Templar (created by the Vatican) were the first bankers.

Aside from that, which is OT for the subject of this thread, I didn't
see any displays of ignorance...whether one agrees or not, David Wilcock
is far from being ignorant. Neither is Fulford.

Because you may disagree with them may mean kooky to you, that is your
choosing but ignorant they are not.

Do I assume correctly that you do not believe the essence of the DUMB
destruction/story?

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 8th 11, 04:51 PM

Tom wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 15:22:08 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>> Tom wrote:
>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:31:48 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quaalude wrote:
>>>>> "...in addition to the first 8, *MANY* additional bases have now
>>>>> had all personnel and materials mysteriously removed. It happened
>>>>> within the last week. In this case, the rooms are still there,
>>>>> but they are now empty -- except for some broken pieces of
>>>>> furniture."
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
>>>>
>>>> Ah the website of kook central.
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>
>>> Why do you say that?
>>
>> Its an amusing mix of ignorance and plain kookiness
>
> Hm.
>
>> I especially liked the claim that the Vatican bank had been secretly
>> controlling the world since the time of Julius Caesar who of course
>> died in 44 BC.
>
> The Knights Templar (created by the Vatican) were the first bankers.
>

Well no, there were bankers in ancient Mespotamia, the code of Hammurabi
written around 1760 BC includes laws that regulate banking.

Ancient Egypt had a well established bank system as did China.
The Chinese did introduce paper money and letters of credit
after all.

We know from the bible that Moneylenders were active in
Israel during the Christian era.

During the mediaeval period most bankers were jewish as
the catholic church banned the paying or charging of interest.
The bankers of Lombardy found a loophole in the laws on usury
and founded what is known today as merchant banking.
The Lombard name is still used by banks today.

While the Templars did indeed act as bankers during the crusades
under the authority of the Papal Bull Omne Datum Optimum they
did so at the behest of King Henry II of England who raised
the money, not the Vatican.

> Aside from that, which is OT for the subject of this thread, I didn't
> see any displays of ignorance.

You have however just given one.

> ..whether one agrees or not, David
> Wilcock is far from being ignorant. Neither is Fulford.
>
> Because you may disagree with them may mean kooky to you, that is your
> choosing but ignorant they are not.
>
> Do I assume correctly that you do not believe the essence of the DUMB
> destruction/story?

Thats putting it mildly.

Keith

Dan[_15_]

October 8th 11, 05:00 PM

On 10/8/2011 10:51 AM, Keith Willshaw wrote:
> Tom wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 15:22:08 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>
>>> Tom wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:31:48 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Quaalude wrote:
>>>>>> "...in addition to the first 8, *MANY* additional bases have now
>>>>>> had all personnel and materials mysteriously removed. It happened
>>>>>> within the last week. In this case, the rooms are still there,
>>>>>> but they are now empty -- except for some broken pieces of
>>>>>> furniture."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah the website of kook central.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>> Why do you say that?
>>>
>>> Its an amusing mix of ignorance and plain kookiness
>>
>> Hm.
>>
>>> I especially liked the claim that the Vatican bank had been secretly
>>> controlling the world since the time of Julius Caesar who of course
>>> died in 44 BC.
>>
>> The Knights Templar (created by the Vatican) were the first bankers.
>>
>
> Well no, there were bankers in ancient Mespotamia, the code of Hammurabi
> written around 1760 BC includes laws that regulate banking.
>
> Ancient Egypt had a well established bank system as did China.
> The Chinese did introduce paper money and letters of credit
> after all.
>
> We know from the bible that Moneylenders were active in
> Israel during the Christian era.
>
> During the mediaeval period most bankers were jewish as
> the catholic church banned the paying or charging of interest.
> The bankers of Lombardy found a loophole in the laws on usury
> and founded what is known today as merchant banking.
> The Lombard name is still used by banks today.
>
> While the Templars did indeed act as bankers during the crusades
> under the authority of the Papal Bull Omne Datum Optimum they
> did so at the behest of King Henry II of England who raised
> the money, not the Vatican.
>
>> Aside from that, which is OT for the subject of this thread, I didn't
>> see any displays of ignorance.
>
> You have however just given one.
>
>> ..whether one agrees or not, David
>> Wilcock is far from being ignorant. Neither is Fulford.
>>
>> Because you may disagree with them may mean kooky to you, that is your
>> choosing but ignorant they are not.
>>
>> Do I assume correctly that you do not believe the essence of the DUMB
>> destruction/story?
>
> Thats putting it mildly.
>
> Keith
>
>
OK, buddy, where do you get off using facts to prove your point?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Tom[_15_]

October 8th 11, 05:17 PM

On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 16:51:08 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:

>> ..whether one agrees or not, David
>> Wilcock is far from being ignorant. Neither is Fulford.
>>
>> Because you may disagree with them may mean kooky to you, that is your
>> choosing but ignorant they are not.
>>
>> Do I assume correctly that you do not believe the essence of the DUMB
>> destruction/story?
>
> Thats putting it mildly.

Put it bluntly then.

Tom[_15_]

October 8th 11, 05:20 PM

On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 11:00:41 -0500, Dan wrote:

> On 10/8/2011 10:51 AM, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>> Tom wrote:
>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 15:22:08 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>
>>>> Tom wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:31:48 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Quaalude wrote:
>>>>>>> "...in addition to the first 8, *MANY* additional bases have now
>>>>>>> had all personnel and materials mysteriously removed. It happened
>>>>>>> within the last week. In this case, the rooms are still there,
>>>>>>> but they are now empty -- except for some broken pieces of
>>>>>>> furniture."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah the website of kook central.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you say that?
>>>>
>>>> Its an amusing mix of ignorance and plain kookiness
>>>
>>> Hm.
>>>
>>>> I especially liked the claim that the Vatican bank had been secretly
>>>> controlling the world since the time of Julius Caesar who of course
>>>> died in 44 BC.
>>>
>>> The Knights Templar (created by the Vatican) were the first bankers.
>>>
>>
>> Well no, there were bankers in ancient Mespotamia, the code of Hammurabi
>> written around 1760 BC includes laws that regulate banking.
>>
>> Ancient Egypt had a well established bank system as did China.
>> The Chinese did introduce paper money and letters of credit
>> after all.
>>
>> We know from the bible that Moneylenders were active in
>> Israel during the Christian era.
>>
>> During the mediaeval period most bankers were jewish as
>> the catholic church banned the paying or charging of interest.
>> The bankers of Lombardy found a loophole in the laws on usury
>> and founded what is known today as merchant banking.
>> The Lombard name is still used by banks today.
>>
>> While the Templars did indeed act as bankers during the crusades
>> under the authority of the Papal Bull Omne Datum Optimum they
>> did so at the behest of King Henry II of England who raised
>> the money, not the Vatican.
>>
>>> Aside from that, which is OT for the subject of this thread, I didn't
>>> see any displays of ignorance.
>>
>> You have however just given one.
>>
>>> ..whether one agrees or not, David
>>> Wilcock is far from being ignorant. Neither is Fulford.
>>>
>>> Because you may disagree with them may mean kooky to you, that is your
>>> choosing but ignorant they are not.
>>>
>>> Do I assume correctly that you do not believe the essence of the DUMB
>>> destruction/story?
>>
>> Thats putting it mildly.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
> OK, buddy, where do you get off using facts to prove your point?
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Don't confuse facts with opinions of history. I have an opinion, he has
another. Fact probably lies somewhere in between or could be inclusive
of points of both.

Argument is the display of possibilities. Choose which possibilities you
wish.

Ignorance is the assumption of facts without investigation.

Orval Fairbairn

October 8th 11, 05:52 PM

In article >, Tom >
wrote:

> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 11:00:41 -0500, Dan wrote:
>
> > On 10/8/2011 10:51 AM, Keith Willshaw wrote:
> >> Tom wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 15:22:08 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Tom wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:31:48 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Quaalude wrote:
> >>>>>>> "...in addition to the first 8, *MANY* additional bases have now
> >>>>>>> had all personnel and materials mysteriously removed. It happened
> >>>>>>> within the last week. In this case, the rooms are still there,
> >>>>>>> but they are now empty -- except for some broken pieces of
> >>>>>>> furniture."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbas
> >>>>>>> es
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ah the website of kook central.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Keith
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why do you say that?
> >>>>
> >>>> Its an amusing mix of ignorance and plain kookiness
> >>>
> >>> Hm.
> >>>
> >>>> I especially liked the claim that the Vatican bank had been secretly
> >>>> controlling the world since the time of Julius Caesar who of course
> >>>> died in 44 BC.
> >>>
> >>> The Knights Templar (created by the Vatican) were the first bankers.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Well no, there were bankers in ancient Mespotamia, the code of Hammurabi
> >> written around 1760 BC includes laws that regulate banking.
> >>
> >> Ancient Egypt had a well established bank system as did China.
> >> The Chinese did introduce paper money and letters of credit
> >> after all.
> >>
> >> We know from the bible that Moneylenders were active in
> >> Israel during the Christian era.
> >>
> >> During the mediaeval period most bankers were jewish as
> >> the catholic church banned the paying or charging of interest.
> >> The bankers of Lombardy found a loophole in the laws on usury
> >> and founded what is known today as merchant banking.
> >> The Lombard name is still used by banks today.
> >>
> >> While the Templars did indeed act as bankers during the crusades
> >> under the authority of the Papal Bull Omne Datum Optimum they
> >> did so at the behest of King Henry II of England who raised
> >> the money, not the Vatican.
> >>
> >>> Aside from that, which is OT for the subject of this thread, I didn't
> >>> see any displays of ignorance.
> >>
> >> You have however just given one.
> >>
> >>> ..whether one agrees or not, David
> >>> Wilcock is far from being ignorant. Neither is Fulford.
> >>>
> >>> Because you may disagree with them may mean kooky to you, that is your
> >>> choosing but ignorant they are not.
> >>>
> >>> Do I assume correctly that you do not believe the essence of the DUMB
> >>> destruction/story?
> >>
> >> Thats putting it mildly.
> >>
> >> Keith
> >>
> >>
> > OK, buddy, where do you get off using facts to prove your point?
> >
> > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
> Don't confuse facts with opinions of history. I have an opinion, he has
> another. Fact probably lies somewhere in between or could be inclusive
> of points of both.
>
> Argument is the display of possibilities. Choose which possibilities you
> wish.
>
> Ignorance is the assumption of facts without investigation.

.... and you, sir have demonstrated comprehensive ignorance (nay,
stupidity) in multiple fields -- aviation among them!

You came into this NG with your 9/11 kookbabble and were promptly shot
down after you rejected the experience and superior knowledge of others,
whose sum total experience is in the hundreds of years and still cling
to the nonsense that you extracted from the tabloids.

It is time for you to exit this NG and to return to your fantasy land of
Dungeons & Dragons.

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 8th 11, 06:18 PM

Tom wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 16:51:08 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>>> ..whether one agrees or not, David
>>> Wilcock is far from being ignorant. Neither is Fulford.
>>>
>>> Because you may disagree with them may mean kooky to you, that is
>>> your choosing but ignorant they are not.
>>>
>>> Do I assume correctly that you do not believe the essence of the
>>> DUMB destruction/story?
>>
>> Thats putting it mildly.
>
> Put it bluntly then.

Its a crock of s**t dreamt up by conspirowhackos and believed
by imbeciles.

Be careful what you ask for - you just might get it.

Keith

Jim Wilkins[_2_]

October 8th 11, 06:20 PM

"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
...
> Tom wrote:
>> ...
>> The Knights Templar (created by the Vatican) were the first bankers.
>>
>
> Well no, there were bankers in ancient Mespotamia, the code of Hammurabi
> written around 1760 BC includes laws that regulate banking.
>
> Keith

One error destroys the entire credibility of the establishment but should be
ignored or forgiven to revisionists.

David E. Powell

October 8th 11, 06:34 PM

UPDATED Wednesday 9/21. No radioactivity was found in either of the
bases. Method of attack still unknown. Damage is so extreme there will
be no effort to access them. Scroll to bottom of article for more.

Given lack of radioactivity or extreme chem/bio hazard, no reason not
to try. Even the dynamited Nordhausen complex was re-entered years
later.

george152

October 8th 11, 07:55 PM

On 9/10/2011 1:31 a.m., Keith Willshaw wrote:
> Quaalude wrote:
>> "...in addition to the first 8, *MANY* additional bases have now had
>> all personnel and materials mysteriously removed. It happened within
>> the last week. In this case, the rooms are still there, but they are
>> now empty -- except for some broken pieces of furniture."
>>
>> https://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
>
> Ah the website of kook central.
>
That's one for the kook bookmarks to be laughed over later

Tom[_15_]

October 8th 11, 08:39 PM

On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 18:18:41 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:

> Tom wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 16:51:08 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>
>>>> ..whether one agrees or not, David
>>>> Wilcock is far from being ignorant. Neither is Fulford.
>>>>
>>>> Because you may disagree with them may mean kooky to you, that is
>>>> your choosing but ignorant they are not.
>>>>
>>>> Do I assume correctly that you do not believe the essence of the
>>>> DUMB destruction/story?
>>>
>>> Thats putting it mildly.
>>
>> Put it bluntly then.
>
> Its a crock of s**t dreamt up by conspirowhackos and believed
> by imbeciles.

Perhaps you're right. Perhaps not. To be right, you would have to submit
more than your opinion regarding the content of the article in question.
You would have to propose that the DUMBs are intact.

Assailing the writer(s) is extremely weak sauce as surely you are aware.
Personal attacks in lieu of facts is the realm of the, how should I say
this, imbeciles and whackos. :)

Tom[_15_]

October 8th 11, 08:41 PM

On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:

> UPDATED Wednesday 9/21. No radioactivity was found in either of the
> bases. Method of attack still unknown. Damage is so extreme there will
> be no effort to access them. Scroll to bottom of article for more.
>
> Given lack of radioactivity or extreme chem/bio hazard, no reason not
> to try. Even the dynamited Nordhausen complex was re-entered years
> later.

If you have the security clearance, let's get together and do so.

Tom[_15_]

October 8th 11, 08:46 PM

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 8th 11, 08:57 PM

Tom wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 11:00:41 -0500, Dan wrote:
>
>> On 10/8/2011 10:51 AM, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>> Tom wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 15:22:08 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tom wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:31:48 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quaalude wrote:
>>>>>>>> "...in addition to the first 8, *MANY* additional bases have
>>>>>>>> now had all personnel and materials mysteriously removed. It
>>>>>>>> happened within the last week. In this case, the rooms are
>>>>>>>> still there, but they are now empty -- except for some broken
>>>>>>>> pieces of furniture."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah the website of kook central.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you say that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Its an amusing mix of ignorance and plain kookiness
>>>>
>>>> Hm.
>>>>
>>>>> I especially liked the claim that the Vatican bank had been
>>>>> secretly controlling the world since the time of Julius Caesar
>>>>> who of course died in 44 BC.
>>>>
>>>> The Knights Templar (created by the Vatican) were the first
>>>> bankers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well no, there were bankers in ancient Mespotamia, the code of
>>> Hammurabi written around 1760 BC includes laws that regulate
>>> banking.
>>>
>>> Ancient Egypt had a well established bank system as did China.
>>> The Chinese did introduce paper money and letters of credit
>>> after all.
>>>
>>> We know from the bible that Moneylenders were active in
>>> Israel during the Christian era.
>>>
>>> During the mediaeval period most bankers were jewish as
>>> the catholic church banned the paying or charging of interest.
>>> The bankers of Lombardy found a loophole in the laws on usury
>>> and founded what is known today as merchant banking.
>>> The Lombard name is still used by banks today.
>>>
>>> While the Templars did indeed act as bankers during the crusades
>>> under the authority of the Papal Bull Omne Datum Optimum they
>>> did so at the behest of King Henry II of England who raised
>>> the money, not the Vatican.
>>>
>>>> Aside from that, which is OT for the subject of this thread, I
>>>> didn't see any displays of ignorance.
>>>
>>> You have however just given one.
>>>
>>>> ..whether one agrees or not, David
>>>> Wilcock is far from being ignorant. Neither is Fulford.
>>>>
>>>> Because you may disagree with them may mean kooky to you, that is
>>>> your choosing but ignorant they are not.
>>>>
>>>> Do I assume correctly that you do not believe the essence of the
>>>> DUMB destruction/story?
>>>
>>> Thats putting it mildly.
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>> OK, buddy, where do you get off using facts to prove your point?
>>
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
> Don't confuse facts with opinions of history. I have an opinion, he
> has another. Fact probably lies somewhere in between or could be
> inclusive of points of both.
>

No it is a proven fact that there were bankers before the Templars.
One of the changes the Romans made when they conquered Egypt
was to break the State Banking monopoly and allow private
banks to be established.

Banks were heavily regulated under Roman Law and the owners
were not able to establish a limited liability model of business.
They had a personal and unlimited liability for their bank debts.

The Emperor had his own banking operation called the fiscus
from which we derive the term fiscal.

> Argument is the display of possibilities. Choose which possibilities
> you wish.
>
> Ignorance is the assumption of facts without investigation.

<wry smile>

Keith

Dan[_15_]

October 8th 11, 08:57 PM

On 10/8/2011 2:46 PM, Tom wrote:
> Personal attacks in lieu of facts is the realm of the, how should I say
> this, imbeciles and whackos.:)

Is that why you do it?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Dan[_15_]

October 8th 11, 08:59 PM

On 10/8/2011 2:41 PM, Tom wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:
>
>> UPDATED Wednesday 9/21. No radioactivity was found in either of the
>> bases. Method of attack still unknown. Damage is so extreme there will
>> be no effort to access them. Scroll to bottom of article for more.
>>
>> Given lack of radioactivity or extreme chem/bio hazard, no reason not
>> to try. Even the dynamited Nordhausen complex was re-entered years
>> later.
>
> If you have the security clearance, let's get together and do so.

If you have ever held a security clearance you'd know just having one
doesn't prove a need to know.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Steve Hix[_2_]

October 8th 11, 09:33 PM

In article >,
"Keith Willshaw" > wrote:

> Tom wrote:
> > On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:31:48 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
> >
> >> Quaalude wrote:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
> >>
> >> Ah the website of kook central.
> >
> > Why do you say that?
>
> Its an amusing mix of ignorance and plain kookiness
>
> I especially liked the claim that the Vatican bank had been
> secretly controlling the world since the time of Julius Caesar
> who of course died in 44 BC.

Forward looking bunch, those Romans.

Tom[_15_]

October 8th 11, 09:53 PM

On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:59:48 -0500, Dan wrote:

> On 10/8/2011 2:41 PM, Tom wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:
>>
>>> UPDATED Wednesday 9/21. No radioactivity was found in either of the
>>> bases. Method of attack still unknown. Damage is so extreme there will
>>> be no effort to access them. Scroll to bottom of article for more.
>>>
>>> Given lack of radioactivity or extreme chem/bio hazard, no reason not
>>> to try. Even the dynamited Nordhausen complex was re-entered years
>>> later.
>>
>> If you have the security clearance, let's get together and do so.
>
> If you have ever held a security clearance you'd know just having one
> doesn't prove a need to know.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

I've had several for several USAF, NSA and CIA projects including "Q"
and subsections of TS.

I fail to see the point you are making.

Tom[_15_]

October 8th 11, 09:56 PM

On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 20:57:17 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:

> No it is a proven fact that there were bankers before the Templars.

Fine.

Back on topic, to be right, you would have to submit more than your
opinion regarding the content of the article in question. You would
have to propose that the DUMBs are intact.

Assailing the writer(s) is extremely weak sauce as surely you are aware.
Personal attacks in lieu of facts is the realm of the, how should I say
this, imbeciles and whackos. :)

Tom[_15_]

October 8th 11, 09:58 PM

On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:33:02 -0700, Steve Hix wrote:

> In article >,
> "Keith Willshaw" > wrote:
>
>> Tom wrote:
>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:31:48 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>
>>>> Quaalude wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
>>>>
>>>> Ah the website of kook central.
>>>
>>> Why do you say that?
>>
>> Its an amusing mix of ignorance and plain kookiness
>>
>> I especially liked the claim that the Vatican bank had been
>> secretly controlling the world since the time of Julius Caesar
>> who of course died in 44 BC.
>
> Forward looking bunch, those Romans.

Not as much so as the Egyptians and the other highly advanced
civilizations that built the geometrically perfect, astronomically
accurate pyramids across the world as warning signs for the generation
of today.

Dan[_15_]

October 8th 11, 10:35 PM

On 10/8/2011 3:53 PM, Tom wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:59:48 -0500, Dan wrote:
>
>> On 10/8/2011 2:41 PM, Tom wrote:
>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:
>>>
>>>> UPDATED Wednesday 9/21. No radioactivity was found in either of the
>>>> bases. Method of attack still unknown. Damage is so extreme there will
>>>> be no effort to access them. Scroll to bottom of article for more.
>>>>
>>>> Given lack of radioactivity or extreme chem/bio hazard, no reason not
>>>> to try. Even the dynamited Nordhausen complex was re-entered years
>>>> later.
>>>
>>> If you have the security clearance, let's get together and do so.
>>
>> If you have ever held a security clearance you'd know just having one
>> doesn't prove a need to know.
>>
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
> I've had several for several USAF, NSA and CIA projects including "Q"
> and subsections of TS.
>
> I fail to see the point you are making.

OK, since it is obvious you have never actually held a clearance I
will keep it simple. If person A and person B each hold an identical
clearance but work for different activities A doesn't have a need to
know what B is doing.

BTW, there's no such thing as a USAF clearance. The confidential,
secret and top secret clearances are DOD.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Dan[_15_]

October 8th 11, 10:39 PM

On 10/8/2011 3:58 PM, Tom wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:33:02 -0700, Steve Hix wrote:
>
>> In >,
>> "Keith > wrote:
>>
>>> Tom wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:31:48 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Quaalude wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah the website of kook central.
>>>>
>>>> Why do you say that?
>>>
>>> Its an amusing mix of ignorance and plain kookiness
>>>
>>> I especially liked the claim that the Vatican bank had been
>>> secretly controlling the world since the time of Julius Caesar
>>> who of course died in 44 BC.
>>
>> Forward looking bunch, those Romans.
>
> Not as much so as the Egyptians and the other highly advanced
> civilizations that built the geometrically perfect, astronomically
> accurate pyramids across the world as warning signs for the generation
> of today.

No, the stars the pyramids may have been aligned with have moved out
of alignment since then. If the ancients wanted us to use the pyramids
as you suggest they would be in alignment now.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 8th 11, 10:44 PM

Tom wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 18:18:41 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>> Tom wrote:
>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 16:51:08 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>
>>>>> ..whether one agrees or not, David
>>>>> Wilcock is far from being ignorant. Neither is Fulford.
>>>>>
>>>>> Because you may disagree with them may mean kooky to you, that is
>>>>> your choosing but ignorant they are not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do I assume correctly that you do not believe the essence of the
>>>>> DUMB destruction/story?
>>>>
>>>> Thats putting it mildly.
>>>
>>> Put it bluntly then.
>>
>> Its a crock of s**t dreamt up by conspirowhackos and believed
>> by imbeciles.
>
> Perhaps you're right. Perhaps not. To be right, you would have to
> submit more than your opinion regarding the content of the article in
> question.

I did and in fact pointed outr some imbecilic errors

> You would have to propose that the DUMBs are intact.
>

There are pleaty of dumbs out there.

Keith

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 8th 11, 10:46 PM

Tom wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:59:48 -0500, Dan wrote:
>
>> On 10/8/2011 2:41 PM, Tom wrote:
>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:
>>>
>>>> UPDATED Wednesday 9/21. No radioactivity was found in either of the
>>>> bases. Method of attack still unknown. Damage is so extreme there
>>>> will be no effort to access them. Scroll to bottom of article for
>>>> more.
>>>>
>>>> Given lack of radioactivity or extreme chem/bio hazard, no reason
>>>> not to try. Even the dynamited Nordhausen complex was re-entered
>>>> years later.
>>>
>>> If you have the security clearance, let's get together and do so.
>>
>> If you have ever held a security clearance you'd know just having
>> one doesn't prove a need to know.
>>
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
> I've had several for several USAF, NSA and CIA projects including "Q"
> and subsections of TS.
>

Bull**** , if you had a security clearance at any level you would
recognize why.

Keith

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 8th 11, 10:47 PM

Tom wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 20:57:17 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>> No it is a proven fact that there were bankers before the Templars.
>
> Fine.
>
> Back on topic, to be right, you would have to submit more than your
> opinion regarding the content of the article in question. You would
> have to propose that the DUMBs are intact.
>

You are living proof that there is no shortage of DUMB's

Keith

VOR-DME[_4_]

October 8th 11, 11:55 PM

In article >, says...
>
>
>"...in addition to the first 8, *MANY* additional bases have now had all
>personnel and materials mysteriously removed. It happened within the
>last week. In this case, the rooms are still there, but they are now
>empty -- except for some broken pieces of furniture."
>

Oh my God! Who broke the furniture?It's not good to break things... Not
good, not good, not good, not good..............

If the rooms ARE STILL THERE, that can only mean there's still room
for......YOU KNOW WHAT!

Oh Good Lord - THEY'RE COMING! THEY'RE COMING!!!!!

David E. Powell

October 9th 11, 04:05 AM

On Oct 8, 3:41*pm, Tom > wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:
> > UPDATED Wednesday 9/21. No radioactivity was found in either of the
> > bases. Method of attack still unknown. Damage is so extreme there will
> > be no effort to access them. Scroll to bottom of article for more.
>
> > Given lack of radioactivity or extreme chem/bio hazard, no reason not
> > to try. Even the dynamited Nordhausen complex was re-entered years
> > later.
>
> If you have the security clearance, let's get together and do so.

Let's get the people who wrote the story. As they gave details about
the inside of the base surely they've been in there. Let's go together
with a camera to take pictures.

I mean they have to know this stuff somehow, so surely they have GPS
locations, pictures, etc. of these supposed secret bases.

Heck if we have satellite coordinates or GPS stuff Google Earth will
be our initial recon.

Please post GPS coordinates of these base complexes, we should be able
to see surface features or if collapsed a sunken area where the earth
or bunker caved in.

Tom[_15_]

October 9th 11, 04:41 AM

On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 22:47:25 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:

> Tom wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 20:57:17 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>
>>> No it is a proven fact that there were bankers before the Templars.
>>
>> Fine.
>>
>> Back on topic, to be right, you would have to submit more than your
>> opinion regarding the content of the article in question. You would
>> have to propose that the DUMBs are intact.
>>
>
> You are living proof that there is no shortage of DUMB's
>
> Keith

*PLONK*

Is there anyone on the rec.aviation groups who knows hoew to debate
without acting like an infant?

Tom[_15_]

October 9th 11, 04:43 AM

On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 20:05:30 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:

> On Oct 8, 3:41*pm, Tom > wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:
>>> UPDATED Wednesday 9/21. No radioactivity was found in either of the
>>> bases. Method of attack still unknown. Damage is so extreme there will
>>> be no effort to access them. Scroll to bottom of article for more.
>>
>>> Given lack of radioactivity or extreme chem/bio hazard, no reason not
>>> to try. Even the dynamited Nordhausen complex was re-entered years
>>> later.
>>
>> If you have the security clearance, let's get together and do so.
>
> Let's get the people who wrote the story. As they gave details about
> the inside of the base surely they've been in there.

No they have made it very clear that their information is not onsite.
Read the article.

LIBERATOR[_5_]

October 9th 11, 10:21 AM

On Oct 8, 2:53*pm, Tom > wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:59:48 -0500, Dan wrote:
> > On 10/8/2011 2:41 PM, Tom wrote:
> >> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:
>
> >>> UPDATED Wednesday 9/21. No radioactivity was found in either of the
> >>> bases. Method of attack still unknown. Damage is so extreme there will
> >>> be no effort to access them. Scroll to bottom of article for more.
>
> >>> Given lack of radioactivity or extreme chem/bio hazard, no reason not
> >>> to try. Even the dynamited Nordhausen complex was re-entered years
> >>> later.
>
> >> If you have the security clearance, let's get together and do so.
>
> > * *If you have ever held a security clearance you'd know just having one
> > doesn't prove a need to know.
>
> > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
> I've had several for several USAF, NSA and CIA projects including "Q"
> and subsections of TS.
>
> I fail to see the point you are making.-

Then you know that George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Madonna and many
others are not from earth, they are running the CIA and all
intelligence operations, which means staging PSYOPs and also control
all flying saucer space flight, the huge secret arsenal of technology
acquired from the 3rd Reich which is light years beyond all admitted
technology that NASA claims to have.

Disclosure is a must, you know Bob Lazar & Steve Greer are the same
individual, an Alpha Centaurian, who morphs the different body style
(Steven Greer a bodybuilder).

You guys got all these secret clearances lets make sure you don't
forget you're obliged to serve the common people namely the American
public.

Make disclosure happen...

LIBERATOR[_5_]

October 9th 11, 10:22 AM

On Oct 8, 2:58*pm, Tom > wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:33:02 -0700, Steve Hix wrote:
> > In article >,
> > *"Keith Willshaw" > wrote:
>
> >> Tom wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:31:48 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
> >>>> Quaalude wrote:
>
> >>>>>https://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
>
> >>>> Ah the website of kook central.
>
> >>> Why do you say that?
>
> >> Its an amusing mix of ignorance and plain kookiness
>
> >> I especially liked the claim that the Vatican bank had been
> >> secretly controlling the world since the time of Julius Caesar
> >> who of course died in 44 BC.
>
> > Forward looking bunch, those Romans.
>
> Not as much so as the Egyptians and the other highly advanced
> civilizations that built the geometrically perfect, astronomically
> accurate pyramids across the world as warning signs for the generation
> of today.-

William Shatner of Star Trek told me that the Martians built them.

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 9th 11, 10:49 AM

David E. Powell wrote:
> On Oct 8, 3:41 pm, Tom > wrote:
>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:
>>> UPDATED Wednesday 9/21. No radioactivity was found in either of the
>>> bases. Method of attack still unknown. Damage is so extreme there
>>> will be no effort to access them. Scroll to bottom of article for
>>> more.
>>
>>> Given lack of radioactivity or extreme chem/bio hazard, no reason
>>> not to try. Even the dynamited Nordhausen complex was re-entered
>>> years later.
>>
>> If you have the security clearance, let's get together and do so.
>
> Let's get the people who wrote the story. As they gave details about
> the inside of the base surely they've been in there. Let's go together
> with a camera to take pictures.
>
> I mean they have to know this stuff somehow, so surely they have GPS
> locations, pictures, etc. of these supposed secret bases.
>
> Heck if we have satellite coordinates or GPS stuff Google Earth will
> be our initial recon.
>
> Please post GPS coordinates of these base complexes, we should be able
> to see surface features or if collapsed a sunken area where the earth
> or bunker caved in.

Wait for the excuses, no proof is ever forthcoming.

Keith

VOR-DME[_4_]

October 9th 11, 12:50 PM

>
>> Tom wrote:

>
>*PLONK*
>
>Is there anyone on the rec.aviation groups who knows hoew to debate
>without acting like an infant?

Debate this then:

I just love the assertion that Sukarno, of Indonesia, gave Pres Kennedy
140,000 tons of gold! That’s a lot of gold! In fact, with an estimated
160,000 tons having been extracted throughout history, and 15% being
used in industry, this pretty much means that every ring, every
necklace, every coin and every ingot and bar in the world had to be
requisitioned by Sukarno to make this ostentatious gift! My parents
never told me about the sad day they had to surrender their wedding
rings to Indonesia!

Still in on the debate, Tom?

The weird thing about kookbabble though, is that they are not in the
least destabilized when one points out these outrageous stupidities.
They will blithely wipe it away "Oh well, change that to..." They do not
seem to realize how obvious it becomes that the entire rubble pile of
verbiage is simply pulled out of some latter day Ted Kazinski’s rear
end, and they will adhere to it as gospel until every single pebble of
it has been held up to the light and dissipates under scrutiny. A bit
like the Unabomber, in fact, the idea would appear to be to wow the
ignorant with the sheer sticky mass of gooey verbiage, and to discourage
more serious critics by the sheer vastness of the wasteland of
nonsensical assertions.

Don’t get me wrong though, I am fully convinced of the existence of the
DUMBS!

Tankfixer[_2_]

October 9th 11, 03:32 PM

In article <4ec11d49-36cf-4d78-b1fd-3c6790ccd6b1
@u24g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, - LIBERATOR spouted !
> You guys got all these secret clearances lets make sure you don't
> forget you're obliged to serve the common people namely the American
> public.
>
> Make disclosure happen...

Well..
Nothing in the files about aliens..
Lots of stuff about kooks who think aliens control the CIA...

Tom[_15_]

October 9th 11, 07:14 PM

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 02:22:28 -0700 (PDT), LIBERATOR wrote:

> On Oct 8, 2:58*pm, Tom > wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:33:02 -0700, Steve Hix wrote:
>>> In article >,
>>> *"Keith Willshaw" > wrote:
>>
>>>> Tom wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:31:48 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>
>>>>>> Quaalude wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>https://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
>>
>>>>>> Ah the website of kook central.
>>
>>>>> Why do you say that?
>>
>>>> Its an amusing mix of ignorance and plain kookiness
>>
>>>> I especially liked the claim that the Vatican bank had been
>>>> secretly controlling the world since the time of Julius Caesar
>>>> who of course died in 44 BC.
>>
>>> Forward looking bunch, those Romans.
>>
>> Not as much so as the Egyptians and the other highly advanced
>> civilizations that built the geometrically perfect, astronomically
>> accurate pyramids across the world as warning signs for the generation
>> of today.-
>
> William Shatner of Star Trek told me that the Martians built them.

Maybe they did. It wasn't a bunch of Chinese, Aztecs, Egyptians or, for
that matter, anyone today that could build, much less build in the
constraints of time that occurred, the pyramids of subject.

Tom[_15_]

October 9th 11, 07:21 PM

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 02:21:46 -0700 (PDT), LIBERATOR wrote:

> On Oct 8, 2:53*pm, Tom > wrote:
>> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:59:48 -0500, Dan wrote:
>>> On 10/8/2011 2:41 PM, Tom wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:
>>
>>>>> UPDATED Wednesday 9/21. No radioactivity was found in either of the
>>>>> bases. Method of attack still unknown. Damage is so extreme there will
>>>>> be no effort to access them. Scroll to bottom of article for more.
>>
>>>>> Given lack of radioactivity or extreme chem/bio hazard, no reason not
>>>>> to try. Even the dynamited Nordhausen complex was re-entered years
>>>>> later.
>>
>>>> If you have the security clearance, let's get together and do so.
>>
>>> * *If you have ever held a security clearance you'd know just having one
>>> doesn't prove a need to know.
>>
>>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>>
>> I've had several for several USAF, NSA and CIA projects including "Q"
>> and subsections of TS.
>>
>> I fail to see the point you are making.-
>
> Then you know that George Lucas, Steven Spielberg, Madonna and many
> others are not from earth,

No I do not know this.

> they are running the CIA and all intelligence operations, which means
> staging PSYOPs and also control all flying saucer space flight, the
> huge secret arsenal of technology acquired from the 3rd Reich which
> is light years beyond all admitted technology that NASA claims to
> have.

Neither this.

> Disclosure is a must, you know Bob Lazar & Steve Greer are the same
> individual, an Alpha Centaurian, who morphs the different body style
> (Steven Greer a bodybuilder).

Neither this.

> You guys got all these secret clearances lets make sure you don't
> forget you're obliged to serve the common people namely the American
> public.
>
> Make disclosure happen...

The people who have MAGIC or equivalent clearances are very unlikely to
do much of anything. The few who have (Dan Crain/Burnisch et al) face a
"pull of the root".

Where we differ is in "knowing". I have many possibilities which
include parts of what you claim nothing of what you claim and most often
I choose mixes of what you claim appended with other possibilities.

What we don't appear to share is the acknowledgment that the
intellectual prowess..of ETs, NASA, military, intelligence
agencies...far exceeds our imagination. Why then would we expect to know
with certainty what it is they have accomplished or on their agenda?

Tom[_15_]

October 9th 11, 07:26 PM

On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 13:50:41 +0200, VOR-DME wrote:

>>> Tom wrote:
>
>>
>>*PLONK*
>>
>>Is there anyone on the rec.aviation groups who knows hoew to debate
>>without acting like an infant?
>
> Debate this then:
>
> I just love the assertion that Sukarno, of Indonesia, gave Pres Kennedy
> 140,000 tons of gold!

I have no interest or knowledge in the above nor is it on topic for this
thread.

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 9th 11, 07:30 PM

Tom wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 02:22:28 -0700 (PDT), LIBERATOR wrote:
>
>> On Oct 8, 2:58 pm, Tom > wrote:
>>> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:33:02 -0700, Steve Hix wrote:
>>>> In article >,
>>>> "Keith Willshaw" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Tom wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:31:48 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> Quaalude wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
>>>
>>>>>>> Ah the website of kook central.
>>>
>>>>>> Why do you say that?
>>>
>>>>> Its an amusing mix of ignorance and plain kookiness
>>>
>>>>> I especially liked the claim that the Vatican bank had been
>>>>> secretly controlling the world since the time of Julius Caesar
>>>>> who of course died in 44 BC.
>>>
>>>> Forward looking bunch, those Romans.
>>>
>>> Not as much so as the Egyptians and the other highly advanced
>>> civilizations that built the geometrically perfect, astronomically
>>> accurate pyramids across the world as warning signs for the
>>> generation of today.-
>>
>> William Shatner of Star Trek told me that the Martians built them.
>
> Maybe they did. It wasn't a bunch of Chinese, Aztecs, Egyptians or,
> for that matter, anyone today that could build, much less build in the
> constraints of time that occurred, the pyramids of subject.

Except for the minor problem that we know that the blocks
of stone used to build the pyramids were worked with
stone and copper tools. Moreover we know from the excavations
of the villages that they lived in that the pyramid builders were
were organized into work groups 1,000 strong with names such
as the 'Friends of Menkaure' and the 'Drunkards of Menkaure'

We have the records that show the daily ration for a labourer
was ten loaves and a measure of beer. Recall that many of these
were married men with families so these settlements were actually
quite large towns with a population of better than 20,000
with their own temples, breweries , bakeries etc.

Why did these 'alien' builders live on bread and beer in wooden
huts and build the pyramids with stone tools ?

Keith

VOR-DME[_4_]

October 9th 11, 07:42 PM

In article >, says...

>
>I have no interest or knowledge in the above nor is it on topic for this
>thread.

Isn't it? The link I am quoting is the sole content of the originating
article of this thread.

I do understand your intense embarrassement though, and I have to agree,
running and hiding would be your best strategy at this point.

Tom[_15_]

October 9th 11, 08:03 PM

On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 20:42:17 +0200, VOR-DME wrote:

> In article >, says...
>
>>
>>I have no interest or knowledge in the above nor is it on topic for this
>>thread.
>
> Isn't it?

No and you know it isn't. *PLONK*

Dan[_15_]

October 9th 11, 09:18 PM

On 10/9/2011 2:11 PM, george152 wrote:
> On 10/10/2011 7:30 a.m., Keith Willshaw wrote:
>> Tom wrote:
>>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 02:22:28 -0700 (PDT), LIBERATOR wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Oct 8, 2:58 pm, > wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:33:02 -0700, Steve Hix wrote:
>>>>>> In >,
>>>>>> "Keith > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 13:31:48 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Quaalude wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ah the website of kook central.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why do you say that?
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Its an amusing mix of ignorance and plain kookiness
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I especially liked the claim that the Vatican bank had been
>>>>>>> secretly controlling the world since the time of Julius Caesar
>>>>>>> who of course died in 44 BC.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Forward looking bunch, those Romans.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not as much so as the Egyptians and the other highly advanced
>>>>> civilizations that built the geometrically perfect, astronomically
>>>>> accurate pyramids across the world as warning signs for the
>>>>> generation of today.-
>>>>
>>>> William Shatner of Star Trek told me that the Martians built them.
>>>
>>> Maybe they did. It wasn't a bunch of Chinese, Aztecs, Egyptians or,
>>> for that matter, anyone today that could build, much less build in the
>>> constraints of time that occurred, the pyramids of subject.
>>
>> Except for the minor problem that we know that the blocks
>> of stone used to build the pyramids were worked with
>> stone and copper tools. Moreover we know from the excavations
>> of the villages that they lived in that the pyramid builders were
>> were organized into work groups 1,000 strong with names such
>> as the 'Friends of Menkaure' and the 'Drunkards of Menkaure'
>>
>> We have the records that show the daily ration for a labourer
>> was ten loaves and a measure of beer. Recall that many of these
>> were married men with families so these settlements were actually
>> quite large towns with a population of better than 20,000
>> with their own temples, breweries , bakeries etc.
>>
>> Why did these 'alien' builders live on bread and beer in wooden
>> huts and build the pyramids with stone tools ?
>>
>
> And the record that the pyramid builders went on strike because their
> daily ration of beer and onions got cut back.
> And the graffiti of the building gangs, one of the best was from the
> West gang.
> And the ostrace recovered with the daily list of workers and rations...
> I reckon some-one should actually read about the archaeology before posting
>
>
Would you believe the space aliens planted all that "evidence" as
part of the massive coverup?

I wonder if those space aliens are edible. As far as I know there are
no laws against eating extraterrestrials.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Canned Unicorn

October 9th 11, 09:43 PM

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:49:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:

> Wait for the excuses, no proof is ever forthcoming. In the meantime,
> I'm going to hunt me down some 12 year old girls to **** hard.
>
> Keith

good god.
--
â€œPÃ¢tÃ© is passÃ©. Unicorn, the new white meat. An excellent source of
sparkles!â€

Tom[_15_]

October 9th 11, 09:46 PM

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 16:34:53 -0400, nix wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 15:18:46 -0500, Dan wrote:
>
>> Would you believe the space aliens planted all that "evidence" as
>> part of the massive coverup?
>>
>> I wonder if those space aliens are edible. As far as I know there are
>> no laws against me "eating" gay extraterrestrials.
>>
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, homosexual
>
> True this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^

That explains quite a number of this man's perverseness.

Tom[_15_]

October 9th 11, 09:47 PM

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 16:43:31 -0400, Canned Unicorn wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:49:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>> Wait for the excuses, no proof is ever forthcoming. In the meantime,
>> I'm going to hunt me down some 12 year old girls to **** hard.
>>
>> Keith
>
> good god.

It appears that the rec.aviation groups are full of pedophiles and
homosexuals with perverse activities.

David E. Powell

October 9th 11, 09:54 PM

On Oct 8, 11:43*pm, Tom > wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 20:05:30 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:
> > On Oct 8, 3:41 pm, Tom > wrote:
> >> On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 10:34:40 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:
> >>> UPDATED Wednesday 9/21. No radioactivity was found in either of the
> >>> bases. Method of attack still unknown. Damage is so extreme there will
> >>> be no effort to access them. Scroll to bottom of article for more.
>
> >>> Given lack of radioactivity or extreme chem/bio hazard, no reason not
> >>> to try. Even the dynamited Nordhausen complex was re-entered years
> >>> later.
>
> >> If you have the security clearance, let's get together and do so.
>
> > Let's get the people who wrote the story. As they gave details about
> > the inside of the base surely they've been in there.
>
> No they have made it very clear that their information is not onsite.
> Read the article.

I did. My point being that unless there was an extreme radiation,
biological or chemical hazard, as the writer said there was not, even
my untrained self could go there with a camera and take some
pictures.

So the article asks people to buy some base in an undisclosed location
existed at one time, was destroyed in an unknown way, and there are no
people who have gone down because, well, worried over damage, which is
ridiculous as things like Nordhausen and other collapsed underground
base complexes have been entered over the years, in some cases decades
after they were collapsed.

It's a fancy tale with no proof posited by people who freak out when
asked for some. WIthout proof it is a waste of time.

Failing exact coordinates, is there a general area for these bases
that were known to exist and known to be destroyed with no proof of
existence or destruction given? We could search with publically
available satellite technology for traces of above ground structures
or caved in areas. In fact you sould want this more than I do because
you believe the story and are presumably attempting to convince
others.

David E. Powell

October 9th 11, 09:57 PM

On Oct 9, 4:43*pm, Canned Unicorn >
wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:49:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
> > Wait for the excuses, no proof is ever forthcoming. In the meantime,
> > I'm going to hunt me down some 12 year

snip

> > Keith
>
> good god.

Yes, it is appaling, appaling how people who claim to seriously
advance a fantastic and fanciful story with zero evidence presented to
back it up go so quick to spoofing and post doctoring efforts that
were passe on Usenet 15 years ago. It is a wondrous comment on the
credibility of their other stories and a tremendous indication of
their level of professionalism.

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 9th 11, 10:02 PM

Canned Unicorn wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:49:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>> Wait for the excuses, no proof is ever forthcoming. In the meantime,
>> I'm going to hunt me down some 12 year old girls to **** hard.
>>
>> Keith
>
> good god.

Yeah you really shouldnt fake posts like this its bad Karma

Keith

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 9th 11, 10:03 PM

David E. Powell wrote:
> On Oct 9, 4:43 pm, Canned Unicorn >
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:49:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>> Wait for the excuses, no proof is ever forthcoming. In the meantime,
>>> I'm going to hunt me down some 12 year
>
> snip
>
>>> Keith
>>
>> good god.
>
> Yes, it is appaling, appaling how people who claim to seriously
> advance a fantastic and fanciful story with zero evidence presented to
> back it up go so quick to spoofing and post doctoring efforts that
> were passe on Usenet 15 years ago. It is a wondrous comment on the
> credibility of their other stories and a tremendous indication of
> their level of professionalism.

They are so dumb they assume nobody else

a) Can remember what was posted yesterday
b) Can use google groups

Keith

Tom[_15_]

October 9th 11, 10:08 PM

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:57:54 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:

> On Oct 9, 4:43*pm, Canned Unicorn >
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:49:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>> Wait for the excuses, no proof is ever forthcoming. In the meantime,
>>> I'm going to hunt me down some 12 year
>
> snip
>
>>> Keith
>>
>> good god.
>
> Yes, it is appaling, appaling how people who claim to seriously
> advance a fantastic and fanciful story with zero evidence presented to
> back it up go so quick to spoofing and post doctoring efforts that
> were passe on Usenet 15 years ago. It is a wondrous comment on the
> credibility of their other stories and a tremendous indication of
> their level of professionalism.

Who is it that you are speaking?

Canned Unicorn

October 9th 11, 10:10 PM

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 22:02:08 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:

> Canned Unicorn wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:49:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>
>>> Wait for the excuses, no proof is ever forthcoming. In the meantime,
>>> I'm going to hunt me down some 12 year old girls to **** hard.
>>>
>>> Keith
>>
>> good god.
>
> Yeah you really shouldnt fake posts like this its bad Karma and the
> next thing you know, I'll be humping your 5th grade daughter.
>
> Keith

i don't have a daughter. try www.kindercare.com

Canned Unicorn

October 9th 11, 10:12 PM

Tom[_15_]

October 9th 11, 10:13 PM

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:12:10 -0400, Canned Unicorn wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:57:54 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:
>
>> On Oct 9, 4:43*pm, Canned Unicorn >
>> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:49:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>> Wait for the excuses, no proof is ever forthcoming. In the meantime,
>>>> I'm going to hunt me down some 12 year
>>
>> snip
>>
>>>> Keith
>>>
>>> good god.
>>
>> Yes, it is appaling, appaling how people who claim to seriously
>> advance a fantastic and fanciful story with zero evidence presented to
>> back it up go so quick to spoofing and post doctoring efforts that
>> were passe on Usenet 15 years ago. It is a wondrous comment on the
>> credibility of their other stories and a tremendous indication of
>> their level of professionalism.
>
> IF you were forged which you were not why would it matter? Usenet
> reputation?
>
> *bahahahahaha*

There it is.

When your life is tied to your "appearance" on Usenet, the gloves come
off and the perversions ultimately show.

Dan[_15_]

October 9th 11, 10:38 PM

On 10/9/2011 3:47 PM, Tom wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 16:43:31 -0400, Canned Unicorn wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:49:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>
>>> Wait for the excuses, no proof is ever forthcoming. In the meantime,
>>> I'm going to hunt me down some 12 year old girls to **** hard.
>>>
>>> Keith
>>
>> good god.
>
> It appears that the rec.aviation groups are full of pedophiles and
> homosexuals with perverse activities.

I suppose the childish tactic of altering someone's post entertains
the likes of you.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Tom[_15_]

October 9th 11, 10:41 PM

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:54:44 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:

>>> Let's get the people who wrote the story. As they gave details about
>>> the inside of the base surely they've been in there.
>>
>> No they have made it very clear that their information is not onsite.
>> Read the article.
>
> I did.

Telling.

> My point being that unless there was an extreme radiation, biological
> or chemical hazard, as the writer said there was not, even my
> untrained self could go there with a camera and take some pictures.

You're a liar. No, that's too harsh - perhaps you're just a waffling
moron who can't remember from one minute to the next what he wrote. Let
me refresh your addled memory; I'll quote verbatim what you wrote:

"Let's get the people who wrote the story. As they gave details about
the inside of the base *surely they've been in there*"

Truth is simple. You moved the goalposts to cover either for the lie
that you read the article or the establishment that you fail to read
with the lowest level of comprehension.

Tom[_15_]

October 9th 11, 10:47 PM

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:54:44 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:

> So the article asks people to buy some base in an undisclosed location
> existed at one time, was destroyed in an unknown way, and there are no
> people who have gone down...

Partially correct, neither of the authors have visited the DUMBS there
is no statement that claims that no one has visited them.

> because, well, worried over damage, which is ridiculous as things like
> Nordhausen and other collapsed underground base complexes have been
> entered over the years, in some cases decades after they were
> collapsed.

Another lie. I doubt seriously you read the article at all or your
effort to disinform is elementary at best. Either way, this is nothing
more than an effort to be loved and liked by the denizens of these
newsgroups.

I just don't get your motivation. Look in the mirror. What is it in
your personality that makes you crave approval from total strangers?

> It's a fancy tale with no proof posited by people who freak out when
> asked for some. WIthout proof it is a waste of time.

That's your opinion.

Tom[_15_]

October 9th 11, 10:48 PM

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:10:58 -0400, Canned Unicorn wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 22:02:08 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>> Canned Unicorn wrote:
>>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:49:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wait for the excuses, no proof is ever forthcoming. In the meantime,
>>>> I'm going to hunt me down some 12 year old girls to **** hard.
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>
>>> good god.
>>
>> Yeah you really shouldnt fake posts like this its bad Karma and the
>> next thing you know, I'll be humping your 5th grade daughter.
>>
>> Keith
>
> i don't have a daughter. try www.kindercare.com

It would be helpful in the future if you did not assist this pervert
with child location. Thanks.

Wrkitout

October 9th 11, 10:50 PM

On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 16:38:55 -0500, Dan wrote:

> On 10/9/2011 3:47 PM, Tom wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 16:43:31 -0400, Canned Unicorn wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:49:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wait for the excuses, no proof is ever forthcoming. In the meantime,
>>>> I'm going to hunt me down some 12 year old girls to **** hard.
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>
>>> good god.
>>
>> It appears that the rec.aviation groups are full of pedophiles and
>> homosexuals with perverse activities.
>
> I suppose my childish tactic of seeking kiddie butts on usenet entertains
> the likes of you.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, child molester

They sur don't me.

Tom[_15_]

October 9th 11, 10:51 PM

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 17:50:17 -0400, Wrkitout wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 16:38:55 -0500, Dan wrote:
>
>> On 10/9/2011 3:47 PM, Tom wrote:
>>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 16:43:31 -0400, Canned Unicorn wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 10:49:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wait for the excuses, no proof is ever forthcoming. In the meantime,
>>>>> I'm going to hunt me down some 12 year old girls to **** hard.
>>>>>
>>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>> good god.
>>>
>>> It appears that the rec.aviation groups are full of pedophiles and
>>> homosexuals with perverse activities.
>>
>> I suppose my childish tactic of seeking kiddie butts on usenet entertains
>> the likes of you.
>>
>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, child molester
>
> They sur don't me.

Do me a favor, don't quote this pervert. My killfile won't delete his
quoted posts.

Thor Kuntelin

October 11th 11, 04:36 PM

On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 19:30:00 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:

>> Maybe they did. It wasn't a bunch of Chinese, Aztecs, Egyptians or,
>> for that matter, anyone today that could build, much less build in the
>> constraints of time that occurred, the pyramids of subject.
>
> Except for the minor problem that we know that the blocks
> of stone used to build the pyramids were worked with
> stone and copper tools.

In fact attempts have been made to prove that the pyramid could be
constructed using the known ancient Egyptian tools and methods.
Egyptologist Mark Lehner has made an attempt with a large group of
people but failed to even create a 6 m scale model of the pyramid.

A Japanese team funded by Nissan made another attempt to create an 18 m
high scale model using the same primitive ancient Egyptian tools such
as chisels and hammers. The once so proud Japanese team returned home
disillusioned and embarrassed, since they had to use jackhammers to cut
the hard stone, only small blocks were carved from the quarry.

We call people who are stuck in the Age Of Pyramid Stupidity
"pyramidiots". If the (pyramid) point fits, wear it.
--
Thor Kuntelin
http://www.anta.com/

Tom[_15_]

October 11th 11, 04:43 PM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:36:39 -0400, Thor Kuntelin wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 19:30:00 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>>> Maybe they did. It wasn't a bunch of Chinese, Aztecs, Egyptians or,
>>> for that matter, anyone today that could build, much less build in the
>>> constraints of time that occurred, the pyramids of subject.
>>
>> Except for the minor problem that we know that the blocks
>> of stone used to build the pyramids were worked with
>> stone and copper tools.
>
> In fact attempts have been made to prove that the pyramid could be
> constructed using the known ancient Egyptian tools and methods.
> Egyptologist Mark Lehner has made an attempt with a large group of
> people but failed to even create a 6 m scale model of the pyramid.
>
> A Japanese team funded by Nissan made another attempt to create an 18 m
> high scale model using the same primitive ancient Egyptian tools such
> as chisels and hammers. The once so proud Japanese team returned home
> disillusioned and embarrassed, since they had to use jackhammers to cut
> the hard stone, only small blocks were carved from the quarry.

It's so highly implausible to not be discussible.

> We call people who are stuck in the Age Of Pyramid Stupidity
> "pyramidiots". If the (pyramid) point fits, wear it.

<rofl>

Pyramidiots fail to see that these "primitive" stone and chisel users
were somehow master mathematicians with highly advanced geometrical
capabilities. To wit:

The mathematic value of Pi defines the ratio of the circumference to the
diameter of a circle found in the pyramid math.

pi can be found taking twice the base length of the pyramid divided by
its height:

pi = 2 * 440/280 = 880/280 = 22/7 approximating
pi = 3.14159.

Perhaps pi was never specifically calculated, but its value became
incorporated to a very high degree of accuracy for and by future
generations to discover.

Of course, after "chiseling" to perfection the blocks of granite (nary a
human hair can fit in a joint), they would wipe of their sweat, take a
dip in the Nile and resume mathematical excellence.

Of course.

David E. Powell

October 11th 11, 06:04 PM

On Oct 9, 5:47*pm, Tom > wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:54:44 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:
> > So the article asks people to buy some base in an undisclosed location
> > existed at one time, was destroyed in an unknown way, and there are no
> > people who have gone down...
>
> Partially correct, neither of the authors have visited the DUMBS there
> is no statement that claims that no one has visited them.

OK in other words it is out of thin air BS and people are asked to
accept it with no proof. Thank you. The thread may safely be closed
now.

> > because, well, worried over damage, which is ridiculous as things like
> > Nordhausen and other collapsed underground base complexes have been
> > entered over the years, in some cases decades after they were
> > collapsed.
>
> Another lie. I doubt seriously you read the article at all or your
> effort to disinform is elementary at best. Either way, this is nothing
> more than an effort to be loved and liked by the denizens of these
> newsgroups.

Tunnels of Nordhausen reopened in the 1990s. Pics here. Stop
projecting.

http://www.thirdreichruins.com/mittelwerk.htm

> I just don't get your motivation. *Look in the mirror. *What is it in
> your personality that makes you crave approval from total strangers?

You are projecting again. I don't care what you think. You obviously
are looking to troll and worth no further attention.

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 11th 11, 06:59 PM

Thor Kuntelin wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 19:30:00 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>>> Maybe they did. It wasn't a bunch of Chinese, Aztecs, Egyptians or,
>>> for that matter, anyone today that could build, much less build in
>>> the constraints of time that occurred, the pyramids of subject.
>>
>> Except for the minor problem that we know that the blocks
>> of stone used to build the pyramids were worked with
>> stone and copper tools.
>
> In fact attempts have been made to prove that the pyramid could be
> constructed using the known ancient Egyptian tools and methods.
> Egyptologist Mark Lehner has made an attempt with a large group of
> people but failed to even create a 6 m scale model of the pyramid.
>
> A Japanese team funded by Nissan made another attempt to create an 18
> m high scale model using the same primitive ancient Egyptian tools
> such as chisels and hammers. The once so proud Japanese team returned
> home disillusioned and embarrassed, since they had to use jackhammers
> to cut the hard stone, only small blocks were carved from the quarry.
>

On the other hand Denys Stocks successfully showed that the stone
can indeed be worked using copper tools and quartz sand. The sand
lies between the tool and the stone block and does the cutting nicely.

Sand is not exactly rare in Egypt.

see Experiments in Egyptian Archaeology: Stoneworking Technology in Ancient
Egypt
Denys A. Stocks

Keith

george152

October 11th 11, 08:10 PM

On 12/10/2011 6:59 a.m., Keith Willshaw wrote:

> On the other hand Denys Stocks successfully showed that the stone
> can indeed be worked using copper tools and quartz sand. The sand
> lies between the tool and the stone block and does the cutting nicely.
>
> Sand is not exactly rare in Egypt.
>
> see Experiments in Egyptian Archaeology: Stoneworking Technology in Ancient
> Egypt
> Denys A. Stocks
>
Hey. No fair using facts and evidence against kookdom

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 11th 11, 08:44 PM

george152 wrote:
> On 12/10/2011 6:59 a.m., Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>> On the other hand Denys Stocks successfully showed that the stone
>> can indeed be worked using copper tools and quartz sand. The sand
>> lies between the tool and the stone block and does the cutting
>> nicely. Sand is not exactly rare in Egypt.
>>
>> see Experiments in Egyptian Archaeology: Stoneworking Technology in
>> Ancient Egypt
>> Denys A. Stocks
>>
> Hey. No fair using facts and evidence against kookdom

It doesn't matter, they never actually pay attention to anyone
else.

Keith

Thor Kuntelin

October 11th 11, 08:57 PM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:59:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:

> Thor Kuntelin wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 19:30:00 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>
>>>> Maybe they did. It wasn't a bunch of Chinese, Aztecs, Egyptians or,
>>>> for that matter, anyone today that could build, much less build in
>>>> the constraints of time that occurred, the pyramids of subject.
>>>
>>> Except for the minor problem that we know that the blocks
>>> of stone used to build the pyramids were worked with
>>> stone and copper tools.
>>
>> In fact attempts have been made to prove that the pyramid could be
>> constructed using the known ancient Egyptian tools and methods.
>> Egyptologist Mark Lehner has made an attempt with a large group of
>> people but failed to even create a 6 m scale model of the pyramid.
>>
>> A Japanese team funded by Nissan made another attempt to create an 18
>> m high scale model using the same primitive ancient Egyptian tools
>> such as chisels and hammers. The once so proud Japanese team returned
>> home disillusioned and embarrassed, since they had to use jackhammers
>> to cut the hard stone, only small blocks were carved from the quarry.
>>
>
> On the other hand Denys Stocks successfully showed that the stone
> can indeed be worked using copper tools and quartz sand.

Except not one copper tool was found on the entire Giza Plateau.

You're an asshole but I feel in the Xmas mood so.............

I have some helpful information for you.

There are exactly two categories of people who might read any article
you post. The first group comprises those who know you're a liar, a
plagiarist, a fraud and an idiot. The second includes only those who
have never heard of you..

Your lies and incoherent nonsense just give the first group an
opportunity to laugh at you, and any of the second group who see that
crap will immediately migrate to the first.

If you want to maintain as good an image as possible, your best bet?

Shut the **** up.
--
Thor Kuntelin
http://www.anta.com/

rwalker

October 11th 11, 08:58 PM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:44:20 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:

> george152 wrote:
>> On 12/10/2011 6:59 a.m., Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>
>>> On the other hand Denys Stocks successfully showed that the stone
>>> can indeed be worked using copper tools and quartz sand. The sand
>>> lies between the tool and the stone block and does the cutting
>>> nicely. Sand is not exactly rare in Egypt.
>>>
>>> see Experiments in Egyptian Archaeology: Stoneworking Technology in
>>> Ancient Egypt
>>> Denys A. Stocks
>>>
>> Hey. No fair using facts and evidence against kookdom
>
> It doesn't matter, they never actually pay attention to anyone else
> unless I am showing my pics butt****ing children.
>
> Keith The Butt****ing Pony

SWELL!
--
Know me. **** "w" of alt.music.jehtro-tull; "w"'s real name Thomas
or Tom Giarmo

Tom[_15_]

October 11th 11, 09:23 PM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:04:38 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:

> On Oct 9, 5:47*pm, Tom > wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 13:54:44 -0700 (PDT), David E. Powell wrote:
>>> So the article asks people to buy some base in an undisclosed location
>>> existed at one time, was destroyed in an unknown way, and there are no
>>> people who have gone down...
>>
>> Partially correct, neither of the authors have visited the DUMBS there
>> is no statement that claims that no one has visited them.
>
> OK

<snipped crap>

Of course I snip your nonsense. Just because you've wandered into a
quagmire of inanities, irrelevances, and stupidities doesn't mean I
have to follow you in.

Tom[_15_]

October 11th 11, 09:28 PM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:58:53 -0400, rwalker wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:44:20 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>> george152 wrote:
>>> On 12/10/2011 6:59 a.m., Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the other hand Denys Stocks successfully showed that the stone
>>>> can indeed be worked using copper tools and quartz sand. The sand
>>>> lies between the tool and the stone block and does the cutting
>>>> nicely. Sand is not exactly rare in Egypt.
>>>>
>>>> see Experiments in Egyptian Archaeology: Stoneworking Technology in
>>>> Ancient Egypt
>>>> Denys A. Stocks
>>>>
>>> Hey. No fair using facts and evidence against kookdom
>>
>> It doesn't matter, they never actually pay attention to anyone else
>> unless I am showing my pics butt****ing children.
>>
>> Keith The Butt****ing Pony
>
> SWELL!

Swell? As in rectal bleeding? Have at it, you two deserve one another.

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 11th 11, 10:02 PM

Thor Kuntelin wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:59:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>> Thor Kuntelin wrote:
>>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 19:30:00 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Maybe they did. It wasn't a bunch of Chinese, Aztecs, Egyptians
>>>>> or, for that matter, anyone today that could build, much less
>>>>> build in the constraints of time that occurred, the pyramids of
>>>>> subject.
>>>>
>>>> Except for the minor problem that we know that the blocks
>>>> of stone used to build the pyramids were worked with
>>>> stone and copper tools.
>>>
>>> In fact attempts have been made to prove that the pyramid could be
>>> constructed using the known ancient Egyptian tools and methods.
>>> Egyptologist Mark Lehner has made an attempt with a large group of
>>> people but failed to even create a 6 m scale model of the pyramid.
>>>
>>> A Japanese team funded by Nissan made another attempt to create an
>>> 18 m high scale model using the same primitive ancient Egyptian
>>> tools such as chisels and hammers. The once so proud Japanese team
>>> returned home disillusioned and embarrassed, since they had to use
>>> jackhammers to cut the hard stone, only small blocks were carved
>>> from the quarry.
>>>
>>
>> On the other hand Denys Stocks successfully showed that the stone
>> can indeed be worked using copper tools and quartz sand.
>
> Except not one copper tool was found on the entire Giza Plateau.
>
> You're an asshole but I feel in the Xmas mood so.............
>
> I have some helpful information for you.
>
> There are exactly two categories of people who might read any article
> you post. The first group comprises those who know you're a liar, a
> plagiarist, a fraud and an idiot. The second includes only those who
> have never heard of you..
>
> Your lies and incoherent nonsense just give the first group an
> opportunity to laugh at you, and any of the second group who see that
> crap will immediately migrate to the first.
>
> If you want to maintain as good an image as possible, your best bet?
>
> Shut the **** up.

Nope , the fact that I irritate you is an extra incentive.

Keith

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 11th 11, 10:03 PM

rwalker wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:44:20 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>> george152 wrote:
>>> On 12/10/2011 6:59 a.m., Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>
>>>> On the other hand Denys Stocks successfully showed that the stone
>>>> can indeed be worked using copper tools and quartz sand. The sand
>>>> lies between the tool and the stone block and does the cutting
>>>> nicely. Sand is not exactly rare in Egypt.
>>>>
>>>> see Experiments in Egyptian Archaeology: Stoneworking Technology in
>>>> Ancient Egypt
>>>> Denys A. Stocks
>>>>
>>> Hey. No fair using facts and evidence against kookdom
>>
>> It doesn't matter, they never actually pay attention to anyone else
>> unless I am showing my pics butt****ing children.
>>
>> Keith The Butt****ing Pony
>
> SWELL!

Another mental midget proves he has mastered spoofing posts.

It was dumb in the 90's now its just silly.

Keith

rwalker

October 11th 11, 10:09 PM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:03:47 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:

>>> It doesn't matter, they never actually pay attention to anyone else
>>> unless I am showing my pics butt****ing children.
>>>
>>> Keith The Butt****ing Pony
>>
>> SWELL!
>
> Another midget I can hope to stick my schlock in.
>
> It was dumb in the 90's now its just an addiction.
>
> Keith The Midgit ****er

I'm only 3'6!

Thor Kuntelin

October 11th 11, 10:12 PM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:02:29 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:

>>> On the other hand Denys Stocks successfully showed that the stone
>>> can indeed be worked using copper tools and quartz sand.
>>
>> Except not one copper tool was found on the entire Giza Plateau.
>>
>> You're an asshole but I feel in the Xmas mood so.............
>>
>> I have some helpful information for you.
>>
>> There are exactly two categories of people who might read any article
>> you post. The first group comprises those who know you're a liar, a
>> plagiarist, a fraud and an idiot. The second includes only those who
>> have never heard of you..
>>
>> Your lies and incoherent nonsense just give the first group an
>> opportunity to laugh at you, and any of the second group who see that
>> crap will immediately migrate to the first.
>>
>> If you want to maintain as good an image as possible, your best bet?
>>
>> Shut the **** up.
>
> Nope , the fact that I irritate you is an extra incentive.

You know, you think you (and your puppets) way
of....uh...."writing"....is as a "big, badass on Usenet." Do you not
realize It actually comes across more like white trailer trash? Someone
of any intellect at all doesn't need to write things like.....

"It doesn't matter, they never actually pay attention to anyone else
unless I am showing my pics butt****ing children.

Keith The Butt****ing Pony"

NOBODY who talks and writes like that to prove themselves as a "big mean
dog on Usenet" has an ounce of respect from anybody. It's a funny
thing, go figure, there's just something about that white trailer trash
talk that grates on the nerves of any one with a lick of sense.

OK, I admit, I had to get the last word in. Your trailer talk just
demands a decent white man's back hand.
--
Thor Kuntelin
http://www.anta.com/

Tom[_15_]

October 11th 11, 10:15 PM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:09:34 -0400, rwalker wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:03:47 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>>>> It doesn't matter, they never actually pay attention to anyone else
>>>> unless I am showing my pics butt****ing children.
>>>>
>>>> Keith The Butt****ing Pony
>>>
>>> SWELL!
>>
>> Another midget I can hope to stick my schlock in.
>>
>> It was dumb in the 90's now its just an addiction.
>>
>> Keith The Midgit ****er
>
> I'm only 3'6!

We have a match.

Keith Willshaw[_3_]

October 11th 11, 10:43 PM

Thor Kuntelin wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:02:29 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>>>> On the other hand Denys Stocks successfully showed that the stone
>>>> can indeed be worked using copper tools and quartz sand.
>>>
>>> Except not one copper tool was found on the entire Giza Plateau.
>>>
>>> You're an asshole but I feel in the Xmas mood so.............
>>>
>>> I have some helpful information for you.
>>>
>>> There are exactly two categories of people who might read any
>>> article you post. The first group comprises those who know you're a
>>> liar, a plagiarist, a fraud and an idiot. The second includes only
>>> those who have never heard of you..
>>>
>>> Your lies and incoherent nonsense just give the first group an
>>> opportunity to laugh at you, and any of the second group who see
>>> that crap will immediately migrate to the first.
>>>
>>> If you want to maintain as good an image as possible, your best bet?
>>>
>>> Shut the **** up.
>>
>> Nope , the fact that I irritate you is an extra incentive.
>
> You know, you think you (and your puppets) way
> of....uh...."writing"....is as a "big, badass on Usenet." Do you not
> realize It actually comes across more like white trailer trash?
> Someone of any intellect at all doesn't need to write things like.....
>

Here's a clue , this is Usenet , posting isn't compulsory.

> "It doesn't matter, they never actually pay attention to anyone else
> unless I am showing my pics butt****ing children.
>
> Keith The Butt****ing Pony"
>
> NOBODY who talks and writes like that to prove themselves as a "big
> mean dog on Usenet" has an ounce of respect from anybody. It's a funny
> thing, go figure, there's just something about that white trailer
> trash talk that grates on the nerves of any one with a lick of sense.
>

Nice of you to self identify as another of the sock puppets of 'Tom'

Keith

Thor Kuntelin

October 11th 11, 10:55 PM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:43:28 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:

> Nice

*Now to killfile...*

I do hope you enjoy the meeting coming soon with your supervisor, he
sure was unhappy about this.

http://tinyurl.com/6eorwzu
--
Thor Kuntelin
http://www.anta.com/

Jim Wilkins[_2_]

October 11th 11, 11:03 PM

"Keith Willshaw" > wrote in message
...
> Thor Kuntelin wrote:
>> ...>>
>
> On the other hand Denys Stocks successfully showed that the stone
> can indeed be worked using copper tools and quartz sand. The sand
> lies between the tool and the stone block and does the cutting nicely.
>
> Sand is not exactly rare in Egypt.
>
> see Experiments in Egyptian Archaeology: Stoneworking Technology in
> Ancient Egypt
> Denys A. Stocks
>
> Keith

Jewelers have been cutting stones with hard grit pressed into copper from
Egyptian Dynastic times right up to today:
http://lapidarytool.com/cart/lapidary-jewelry-tool/copper-flat-laps/cat_75.html
http://www.usfacetersguild.org/articles/glenn_klein/charging_and_scoring_laps/
http://www.eeescience.utoledo.edu/faculty/harrell/egypt/Stone%20Use/Harrell_Stones_text.htm

jsw

Tom[_15_]

October 11th 11, 11:50 PM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:57:30 -0400, Thor Kuntelin wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:59:32 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>
>> Thor Kuntelin wrote:
>>> On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 19:30:00 +0100, Keith Willshaw wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Maybe they did. It wasn't a bunch of Chinese, Aztecs, Egyptians or,
>>>>> for that matter, anyone today that could build, much less build in
>>>>> the constraints of time that occurred, the pyramids of subject.
>>>>
>>>> Except for the minor problem that we know that the blocks
>>>> of stone used to build the pyramids were worked with
>>>> stone and copper tools.
>>>
>>> In fact attempts have been made to prove that the pyramid could be
>>> constructed using the known ancient Egyptian tools and methods.
>>> Egyptologist Mark Lehner has made an attempt with a large group of
>>> people but failed to even create a 6 m scale model of the pyramid.
>>>
>>> A Japanese team funded by Nissan made another attempt to create an 18
>>> m high scale model using the same primitive ancient Egyptian tools
>>> such as chisels and hammers. The once so proud Japanese team returned
>>> home disillusioned and embarrassed, since they had to use jackhammers
>>> to cut the hard stone, only small blocks were carved from the quarry.
>>>
>>
>> On the other hand Denys Stocks successfully showed that the stone
>> can indeed be worked using copper tools and quartz sand.
>
> Except not one copper tool was found on the entire Giza Plateau.

The pyramid is much older than claimed and must have been built by a
culture far superior to the Egyptians. Even today we simply don¢t have
the technology to build an edifice like the Great Pyramid.

The reason why Egyptologists and pyramidiots cling on to their own
archaic theories is that they have no other choice but to defend them.

Many Egyptologists and pyramidiots are Muslim and the Koran simply
states that the Earth is no older than 4000 years. So they simply don¢t
buy any theory that may date the Great Pyramid to a timeframe before the
established date of construction 2589 B.C

As Keel says in Disneyland of the Gods: "We know that pyramid building
was once a universal practice throughout the world. Over six thousand
years ago unknown peoples were assembling great pyramids in Mexico.
Gigantic man-made mounds were constructed in China, Great Britain, North
America, and on remote Pacific islands while the Egyptians were still
living in mud huts along the Nile."

Thor Kuntelin

October 12th 11, 12:00 AM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:43:56 -0400, Tom wrote:

> <rofl>
>
> Pyramidiots fail to see that these "primitive" stone and chisel users
> were somehow master mathematicians with highly advanced geometrical
> capabilities. To wit:
>
> The mathematic value of Pi defines the ratio of the circumference to the
> diameter of a circle found in the pyramid math.
>
> pi can be found taking twice the base length of the pyramid divided by
> its height:
>
> pi = 2 * 440/280 = 880/280 = 22/7 approximating
> pi = 3.14159.
>
> Perhaps pi was never specifically calculated, but its value became
> incorporated to a very high degree of accuracy for and by future
> generations to discover.
>
> Of course, after "chiseling" to perfection the blocks of granite (nary a
> human hair can fit in a joint), they would wipe of their sweat, take a
> dip in the Nile and resume mathematical excellence.
>
> Of course.

One of the first archaeologists to carry out a thorough survey of the
Pyramid was Petrie, who was particularly struck by the granite coffer
in the King¢s Chamber. The precision with which the coffer had been
carved out of a /single block of extremely hard granite/ struck him as
quite remarkable.

Petrie estimated that diamond-tipped drills would need to have been
applied with a pressure of two tons, in order to hollow out the granite
box. It was not a serious suggestion as to the method actually used but
simply his way of expressing the *impossibility* of creating that
artifact using nineteenth century technology.

It is still a difficult challenge, even with twentieth century
technology. And yet we are supposed to believe that Khufu achieved this
at a time when the Egyptians possessed only the most basic copper hand
tools?

Or well before hand tools were even used?
--
Thor Kuntelin
http://www.anta.com/

Tom[_15_]

October 12th 11, 12:15 AM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:00:22 -0400, Thor Kuntelin wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:43:56 -0400, Tom wrote:
>
>> <rofl>
>>
>> Pyramidiots fail to see that these "primitive" stone and chisel users
>> were somehow master mathematicians with highly advanced geometrical
>> capabilities. To wit:
>>
>> The mathematic value of Pi defines the ratio of the circumference to the
>> diameter of a circle found in the pyramid math.
>>
>> pi can be found taking twice the base length of the pyramid divided by
>> its height:
>>
>> pi = 2 * 440/280 = 880/280 = 22/7 approximating
>> pi = 3.14159.
>>
>> Perhaps pi was never specifically calculated, but its value became
>> incorporated to a very high degree of accuracy for and by future
>> generations to discover.
>>
>> Of course, after "chiseling" to perfection the blocks of granite (nary a
>> human hair can fit in a joint), they would wipe of their sweat, take a
>> dip in the Nile and resume mathematical excellence.
>>
>> Of course.
>
> One of the first archaeologists to carry out a thorough survey of the
> Pyramid was Petrie, who was particularly struck by the granite coffer
> in the Kingÿs Chamber. The precision with which the coffer had been
> carved out of a /single block of extremely hard granite/ struck him as
> quite remarkable.
>
> Petrie estimated that diamond-tipped drills would need to have been
> applied with a pressure of two tons, in order to hollow out the granite
> box. It was not a serious suggestion as to the method actually used but
> simply his way of expressing the *impossibility* of creating that
> artifact using nineteenth century technology.
>
> It is still a difficult challenge, even with twentieth century
> technology. And yet we are supposed to believe that Khufu achieved this
> at a time when the Egyptians possessed only the most basic copper hand
> tools?
>
> Or well before hand tools were even used?

Also in Egypt tens of thousands of diorite bowls have been found with
hieroglyphs engraved. Diorite is one of the hardest stones on the
planet, harder than iron, yet intricate inscriptions have been made,
not through the use of chisels or scraping but some unknown ancient
technology.

Whatever it was, was capable of etching lines 1/150th of an inch wide,
often in sets of parallel lines separated by a mere 1/30th of an inch.
The same kind of workmanship has been found in vases, urns, and other
pottery unearthed at the Pyramid of Zoser.

Graham Hancock says: ´There was no technology known to have been
available to the Ancient Egyptians capable of achieving such results.
Nor, for that matter, would any stone-carver today be able to match
them, even if he were working with the best tungsten-carbide tools. The
implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had
been put to use in Ancient Egypt.¡

Jim Wilkins[_2_]

October 12th 11, 12:58 AM

"Tom" > wrote in message
...
> ...The
> implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had
> been put to use in Ancient Egypt.¡

The Romans built with granite on the same massive scale that we do. Who
helped them?

Dan[_15_]

October 12th 11, 01:23 AM

On 10/11/2011 6:58 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> ...The
>> implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had
>> been put to use in Ancient Egypt.¡
>
> The Romans built with granite on the same massive scale that we do. Who
> helped them?
>
The ancient Egyptians sold the space aliens to the Romans.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Thor Kuntelin

October 12th 11, 04:36 AM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:15:20 -0400, Tom wrote:

> Also in Egypt tens of thousands of diorite bowls have been found with
> hieroglyphs engraved. Diorite is one of the hardest stones on the
> planet, harder than iron, yet intricate inscriptions have been made,
> not through the use of chisels or scraping but some unknown ancient
> technology.
>
> Whatever it was, was capable of etching lines 1/150th of an inch wide,
> often in sets of parallel lines separated by a mere 1/30th of an inch.
> The same kind of workmanship has been found in vases, urns, and other
> pottery unearthed at the Pyramid of Zoser.
>
> Graham Hancock says: ´There was no technology known to have been
> available to the Ancient Egyptians capable of achieving such results.
> Nor, for that matter, would any stone-carver today be able to match
> them, even if he were working with the best tungsten-carbide tools. The
> implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had
> been put to use in Ancient Egypt.¡

My concern is over the Black Pyramid and the 12+ underground ones.
--
Thor Kuntelin
http://www.anta.com/

Tankfixer[_2_]

October 12th 11, 04:52 AM

In article >, - Thor Kuntelin
spouted !
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:15:20 -0400, Tom wrote:
>
> > [quoted text muted]
> > available to the Ancient Egyptians capable of achieving such results.
> > Nor, for that matter, would any stone-carver today be able to match
> > them, even if he were working with the best tungsten-carbide tools. The
> > implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had
> > been put to use in Ancient Egypt.?
>
> My concern is over the Black Pyramid and the 12+ underground ones.
>

I think those are the least of your concerns...

Tom[_15_]

October 12th 11, 04:53 AM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:36:50 -0400, Thor Kuntelin wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:15:20 -0400, Tom wrote:
>
>> Also in Egypt tens of thousands of diorite bowls have been found with
>> hieroglyphs engraved. Diorite is one of the hardest stones on the
>> planet, harder than iron, yet intricate inscriptions have been made,
>> not through the use of chisels or scraping but some unknown ancient
>> technology.
>>
>> Whatever it was, was capable of etching lines 1/150th of an inch wide,
>> often in sets of parallel lines separated by a mere 1/30th of an inch.
>> The same kind of workmanship has been found in vases, urns, and other
>> pottery unearthed at the Pyramid of Zoser.
>>
>> Graham Hancock says: ´There was no technology known to have been
>> available to the Ancient Egyptians capable of achieving such results.
>> Nor, for that matter, would any stone-carver today be able to match
>> them, even if he were working with the best tungsten-carbide tools. The
>> implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had
>> been put to use in Ancient Egypt.¡
>
> My concern is over the Black Pyramid and the 12+ underground ones.

Twelve up to 17 or more. I question whether we will ever get to see them
before they are finished being looted by ???????? including the
Atlantean Hall of Records.

None of this became an issue until The Geomatrix plan was been cracked
by Bill Brown. Evidence from its code is validated by past
archaeological activity on the Plateau. It will be furhter validated
*if* and when it is discloses where and why unannounced excavations are
taking place now.

Thor Kuntelin

October 12th 11, 04:54 AM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:52:36 -0700, Tankfixer wrote:

> In article >, - Thor Kuntelin
> spouted !
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:15:20 -0400, Tom wrote:
>>
>>> [quoted text muted]
>>> available to the Ancient Egyptians capable of achieving such results.
>>> Nor, for that matter, would any stone-carver today be able to match
>>> them, even if he were working with the best tungsten-carbide tools. The
>>> implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had
>>> been put to use in Ancient Egypt.?
>>
>> My concern is over the Black Pyramid and the 12+ underground ones.
>>
>
> I think those are the least of your concerns...

Listening...
--
Thor Kuntelin
http://www.anta.com/

Tankfixer[_2_]

October 12th 11, 05:13 AM

In article >, - Thor Kuntelin
spouted !
>
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:52:36 -0700, Tankfixer wrote:
>
> > In article >, - Thor Kuntelin
> > spouted !
> >> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:15:20 -0400, Tom wrote:
> >>
> >>> [quoted text muted]
> >>> available to the Ancient Egyptians capable of achieving such results.
> >>> Nor, for that matter, would any stone-carver today be able to match
> >>> them, even if he were working with the best tungsten-carbide tools. The
> >>> implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had
> >>> been put to use in Ancient Egypt.?
> >>
> >> My concern is over the Black Pyramid and the 12+ underground ones.
> >>
> >
> > I think those are the least of your concerns...
>
> Listening...

WHooossshhhhh

Thor Kuntelin

October 12th 11, 05:18 AM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:53:25 -0400, Tom wrote:

>>> Graham Hancock says: ´There was no technology known to have been
>>> available to the Ancient Egyptians capable of achieving such results.
>>> Nor, for that matter, would any stone-carver today be able to match
>>> them, even if he were working with the best tungsten-carbide tools. The
>>> implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had
>>> been put to use in Ancient Egypt.¡
>>
>> My concern is over the Black Pyramid and the 12+ underground ones.
>
> Twelve up to 17 or more. I question whether we will ever get to see them
> before they are finished being looted by ???????? including the
> Atlantean Hall of Records.
>
> None of this became an issue until The Geomatrix plan was cracked by
> Bill Brown. Evidence from its code is validated by past
> archaeological activity on the Plateau. It will be furhter validated
> *if* and when it is discloses where and why unannounced excavations
> are taking place now.

It's not just the excavations that worry me.
--
Thor Kuntelin
http://www.anta.com/

Tom[_15_]

October 12th 11, 05:25 AM

On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:18:08 -0400, Thor Kuntelin wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:53:25 -0400, Tom wrote:
>
>>>> Graham Hancock says: ´There was no technology known to have been
>>>> available to the Ancient Egyptians capable of achieving such results.
>>>> Nor, for that matter, would any stone-carver today be able to match
>>>> them, even if he were working with the best tungsten-carbide tools. The
>>>> implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had
>>>> been put to use in Ancient Egypt.¡
>>>
>>> My concern is over the Black Pyramid and the 12+ underground ones.
>>
>> Twelve up to 17 or more. I question whether we will ever get to see them
>> before they are finished being looted by ???????? including the
>> Atlantean Hall of Records.
>>
>> None of this became an issue until The Geomatrix plan was cracked by
>> Bill Brown. Evidence from its code is validated by past
>> archaeological activity on the Plateau. It will be furhter validated
>> *if* and when it is discloses where and why unannounced excavations
>> are taking place now.
>
> It's not just the excavations that worry me.

I cannot name the military intel team who was being sent to Egypt
because of a heat signature registered in the "top room" of the 'major
pyramid" -- apparently, according to him, an area that no one had
access and yet there was this heat signature...and mention of an
"entity".

I remote viewed that "room" at the top of the pyramid and clearly saw a
very tall being, dressed in gold, wearing a bird headdress and the name
I got was Ibis. I was informed that is Thoth.

Looks like there really is something going on at Giza beyond stealing
antiquities and treasure.

Thor Kuntelin

October 12th 11, 05:27 AM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:13:11 -0700, Tankfixer wrote:

> In article >, - Thor Kuntelin
> spouted !
>>
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:52:36 -0700, Tankfixer wrote:
>>
>>> In article >, - Thor Kuntelin
>>> spouted !
>>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:15:20 -0400, Tom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> [quoted text muted]
>>>>> available to the Ancient Egyptians capable of achieving such results.
>>>>> Nor, for that matter, would any stone-carver today be able to match
>>>>> them, even if he were working with the best tungsten-carbide tools. The
>>>>> implication, therefore, is that an unknown or secret technology had
>>>>> been put to use in Ancient Egypt.?
>>>>
>>>> My concern is over the Black Pyramid and the 12+ underground ones.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think those are the least of your concerns...
>>
>> Listening...
>
> WHooossshhhhh

Ignoring...
--
Thor Kuntelin
http://www.anta.com/