LX NAV offers new V7 Vario

[Richard[_9_]]

It is my great pleasure to announce a new product by LXNAV, V7.

V7 is a standalone digital speed-to-fly variometer and final glide
calculator with GPS input and PDA/PNA input/output. It is a great
companion to the Ultimate Le, Oudie, PDA or PNA.

See details later today at:

www.craggyaero.com

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[johngalloway[_2_]]

On Oct 19, 6:31*pm, Richard > wrote:
> It is my great pleasure to announce a new product by LXNAV, V7.
>
> V7 is a standalone digital speed-to-fly variometer and final glide
> calculator with GPS input and PDA/PNA input/output. It is a great
> companion to the Ultimate Le, Oudie, PDA or PNA.
>
> See details later today at:
>
> www.craggyaero.com
>
> Richardwww.craggyaero.com


If the V7 is connected to a simple GPS (e.g. a Nano) and an Oudie
will the V7 mix and pass through air data from itself with the NMEA
data stream from the GPS?

Would ConnectMe in the Oudie be able to download datalogger traces
from the Nano through the V7 without altering the connections.

If it does both of the above it is effectively an up to date 302
replacement.

John Galloway

[Paul Remde]

Hi John,

I sell the LXNAV V7 also. It is a very, very nice variometer. It will work
fantastically with a Nano and Oudie. I have not received my first batch
yet, so I can't give you a first-hand review yet. But I should receive them
very soon. I have played with the very similar V5 variometer a lot.

Yes. The V7 will pass GPS (and FLARM) data through the V7 to any PDA.

Yes. The V7 will add air data (airspeed, variometer, wind, etc.) and send
it to the PDA.

Yes. You can send a task declaration from an Oudie through the V7 to the
Nano.

However, it is not possible to download a flight log from a Nano over the
serial port because the Nano doesn't support that functionality. If it did,
you could do it through the V7. The idea is to take the Nano home. I don't
know whether it will support flight log downloads over the serial port in
the future. That would be a nice feature for customers that want to leave
the Nano in the glider. Theoretically, you could take the microSD card out
of the Nano and take it home for flight log transfers. But the Nano manual
strongly recommends leaving the microSD card in the Nano permanently.

I have a preliminary version of the V7 manual which I have read from cover
to cover. If it is not up on their web site yet, it will be soon.

I'll finally get the V7 onto my web site today.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"johngalloway" > wrote in message
...
On Oct 19, 6:31 pm, Richard > wrote:
> It is my great pleasure to announce a new product by LXNAV, V7.
>
> V7 is a standalone digital speed-to-fly variometer and final glide
> calculator with GPS input and PDA/PNA input/output. It is a great
> companion to the Ultimate Le, Oudie, PDA or PNA.
>
> See details later today at:
>
> www.craggyaero.com
>
> Richardwww.craggyaero.com


If the V7 is connected to a simple GPS (e.g. a Nano) and an Oudie
will the V7 mix and pass through air data from itself with the NMEA
data stream from the GPS?

Would ConnectMe in the Oudie be able to download datalogger traces
from the Nano through the V7 without altering the connections.

If it does both of the above it is effectively an up to date 302
replacement.

John Galloway

[Greg Arnold[_2_]]

On 10/26/2011 9:31 AM, Paul Remde wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> I sell the LXNAV V7 also. It is a very, very nice variometer. It will
> work fantastically with a Nano and Oudie. I have not received my first
> batch yet, so I can't give you a first-hand review yet. But I should
> receive them very soon. I have played with the very similar V5
> variometer a lot.
>
> Yes. The V7 will pass GPS (and FLARM) data through the V7 to any PDA.
>
> Yes. The V7 will add air data (airspeed, variometer, wind, etc.) and
> send it to the PDA.


Does the V5 also do this? If so, what is the difference between the V5
and the V7?

[Richard[_9_]]

On Oct 26, 9:35*am, Greg Arnold > wrote:
> On 10/26/2011 9:31 AM, Paul Remde wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
>
> > I sell the LXNAV V7 also. It is a very, very nice variometer. It will
> > work fantastically with a Nano and Oudie. I have not received my first
> > batch yet, so I can't give you a first-hand review yet. But I should
> > receive them very soon. I have played with the very similar V5
> > variometer a lot.
>
> > Yes. The V7 will pass GPS (and FLARM) data through the V7 to any PDA.
>
> > Yes. The V7 will add air data (airspeed, variometer, wind, etc.) and
> > send it to the PDA.
>
> Does the V5 also do this? *If so, what is the difference between the V5
> and the V7?

Greg,

The V5 is a vario Module for use with only the LX8000, LX8080 and the
LX9000.
The V7 is a standalone Vario that can be used with other GPS inputs
and provides output to many displays, Ultimate Le, Oudie etc.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Tony[_5_]]

On Oct 26, 2:26*pm, Richard > wrote:
> On Oct 26, 9:35*am, Greg Arnold > wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 10/26/2011 9:31 AM, Paul Remde wrote:
>
> > > Hi John,
>
> > > I sell the LXNAV V7 also. It is a very, very nice variometer. It will
> > > work fantastically with a Nano and Oudie. I have not received my first
> > > batch yet, so I can't give you a first-hand review yet. But I should
> > > receive them very soon. I have played with the very similar V5
> > > variometer a lot.
>
> > > Yes. The V7 will pass GPS (and FLARM) data through the V7 to any PDA.
>
> > > Yes. The V7 will add air data (airspeed, variometer, wind, etc.) and
> > > send it to the PDA.
>
> > Does the V5 also do this? *If so, what is the difference between the V5
> > and the V7?
>
> Greg,
>
> The V5 is a vario Module for use with only the LX8000, LX8080 and the
> LX9000.
> The V7 is a standalone Vario that can be used with other GPS inputs
> and provides output to many displays, Ultimate Le, Oudie etc.
>
> Richardwww.craggyaero.com

What functionality would the vario add to an existing Oudie/Nano
system?

[Richard[_9_]]

On Oct 26, 12:50*pm, Tony > wrote:
> On Oct 26, 2:26*pm, Richard > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 26, 9:35*am, Greg Arnold > wrote:
>
> > > On 10/26/2011 9:31 AM, Paul Remde wrote:
>
> > > > Hi John,
>
> > > > I sell the LXNAV V7 also. It is a very, very nice variometer. It will
> > > > work fantastically with a Nano and Oudie. I have not received my first
> > > > batch yet, so I can't give you a first-hand review yet. But I should
> > > > receive them very soon. I have played with the very similar V5
> > > > variometer a lot.
>
> > > > Yes. The V7 will pass GPS (and FLARM) data through the V7 to any PDA.
>
> > > > Yes. The V7 will add air data (airspeed, variometer, wind, etc.) and
> > > > send it to the PDA.
>
> > > Does the V5 also do this? *If so, what is the difference between the V5
> > > and the V7?
>
> > Greg,
>
> > The V5 is a vario Module for use with only the LX8000, LX8080 and the
> > LX9000.
> > The V7 is a standalone Vario that can be used with other GPS inputs
> > and provides output to many displays, Ultimate Le, Oudie etc.
>
> > Richardwww.craggyaero.com
>
> What functionality would the vario add to an existing Oudie/Nano
> system?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Tony,

Direct Winds based on the TAS instead of the winds based on the
circling drift in a thermal.

The SeeYou software will be able to customize the vario. Nav boxes
can also be displayed on the Oudie to change the +/- Volume and +/-
Mc settings.

Thanks ,

Richard,

[Paul Remde]

Hi Tony,

In addition to what Richard stated, adding the V7 to the Nano and Oudie
would also send airspeed and vario data to the Oudie. The vario data would
make the Thermal Assistant much more useful than it is without the V7.

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Richard" > wrote in message
...
On Oct 26, 12:50 pm, Tony > wrote:
> On Oct 26, 2:26 pm, Richard > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 26, 9:35 am, Greg Arnold > wrote:
>
> > > On 10/26/2011 9:31 AM, Paul Remde wrote:
>
> > > > Hi John,
>
> > > > I sell the LXNAV V7 also. It is a very, very nice variometer. It
> > > > will
> > > > work fantastically with a Nano and Oudie. I have not received my
> > > > first
> > > > batch yet, so I can't give you a first-hand review yet. But I should
> > > > receive them very soon. I have played with the very similar V5
> > > > variometer a lot.
>
> > > > Yes. The V7 will pass GPS (and FLARM) data through the V7 to any
> > > > PDA.
>
> > > > Yes. The V7 will add air data (airspeed, variometer, wind, etc.) and
> > > > send it to the PDA.
>
> > > Does the V5 also do this? If so, what is the difference between the V5
> > > and the V7?
>
> > Greg,
>
> > The V5 is a vario Module for use with only the LX8000, LX8080 and the
> > LX9000.
> > The V7 is a standalone Vario that can be used with other GPS inputs
> > and provides output to many displays, Ultimate Le, Oudie etc.
>
> > Richardwww.craggyaero.com
>
> What functionality would the vario add to an existing Oudie/Nano
> system?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Tony,

Direct Winds based on the TAS instead of the winds based on the
circling drift in a thermal.

The SeeYou software will be able to customize the vario. Nav boxes
can also be displayed on the Oudie to change the +/- Volume and +/-
Mc settings.

Thanks ,

Richard,

[Morteza Ansari]

Thanks for the info, looks like a pretty good option. Is there any
functionality that you would be missing if you pair it with other
loggers vs. a Nano? For example if using it with a Colibri, can the
Oudie download flights or set the task or waypoints?


Cheers,
Morteza

[Tony[_5_]]

On Oct 26, 4:53*pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> Hi Tony,
>
> In addition to what Richard stated, adding the V7 to the Nano and Oudie
> would also send airspeed and vario data to the Oudie. *The vario data would
> make the Thermal Assistant much more useful than it is without the V7.
>
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> "Richard" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Oct 26, 12:50 pm, Tony > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 26, 2:26 pm, Richard > wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 26, 9:35 am, Greg Arnold > wrote:
>
> > > > On 10/26/2011 9:31 AM, Paul Remde wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi John,
>
> > > > > I sell the LXNAV V7 also. It is a very, very nice variometer. It
> > > > > will
> > > > > work fantastically with a Nano and Oudie. I have not received my
> > > > > first
> > > > > batch yet, so I can't give you a first-hand review yet. But I should
> > > > > receive them very soon. I have played with the very similar V5
> > > > > variometer a lot.
>
> > > > > Yes. The V7 will pass GPS (and FLARM) data through the V7 to any
> > > > > PDA.
>
> > > > > Yes. The V7 will add air data (airspeed, variometer, wind, etc.) and
> > > > > send it to the PDA.
>
> > > > Does the V5 also do this? If so, what is the difference between the V5
> > > > and the V7?
>
> > > Greg,
>
> > > The V5 is a vario Module for use with only the LX8000, LX8080 and the
> > > LX9000.
> > > The V7 is a standalone Vario that can be used with other GPS inputs
> > > and provides output to many displays, Ultimate Le, Oudie etc.
>
> > > Richardwww.craggyaero.com
>
> > What functionality would the vario add to an existing Oudie/Nano
> > system?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Tony,
>
> Direct *Winds based on the TAS instead of the winds based on the
> circling drift in a thermal.
>
> The SeeYou software will be able to customize the vario. * Nav boxes
> can also be displayed on the Oudie to change the *+/- Volume and *+/-
> Mc settings.
>
> Thanks ,
>
> Richard,

gotcha, thanks guys. It seems that my Oudie/Nano combo offers weird
wind calculations more often than not. Perhaps I don't fly very round
circles :) Of course with a poor wind calculation the final glide and
other calculations on the Oudie become poor as well. It appears that
with the pitot and static inputs on the V7 I could also gain
electronic TE compensation which would be nice. i would have to add an
external speaker since my current LX16 audio vario has a built in
speaker. I'm not sure the additional features are worth $1500 but
maybe I don't know what I'm missing.

[Craig[_2_]]

On Oct 26, 3:04*pm, Morteza Ansari > wrote:
> Thanks for the info, looks like a pretty good option. Is there any
> functionality that you would be missing if you pair it with other
> loggers vs. a Nano? *For example if using it with a Colibri, can the
> Oudie download flights or set the task or waypoints?
>
> Cheers,
> Morteza

If this allows use of PowerFlarm for the GPS input and interfaces with
PDAs running LK800 or XCSoar it's a very attractive option.

Looking forward to seeing the manual.

Thanks,
Craig

[Brad[_2_]]

On Oct 26, 3:26*pm, Craig > wrote:
> On Oct 26, 3:04*pm, Morteza Ansari > wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the info, looks like a pretty good option. Is there any
> > functionality that you would be missing if you pair it with other
> > loggers vs. a Nano? *For example if using it with a Colibri, can the
> > Oudie download flights or set the task or waypoints?
>
> > Cheers,
> > Morteza
>
> If this allows use of PowerFlarm for the GPS input and interfaces with
> PDAs running LK800 or XCSoar it's a very attractive option.
>
> Looking forward to seeing the manual.
>
> Thanks,
> Craig

Just talked to Richard about the V7....................this will go in
to my panel eventually. I really like the idea of pitot/static driven
wind calculations, since like Tony, my purely driven GPS wind is not
really that accurate and not at all on final glide.

Anyone looking for a nice SB-8??

Brad

[Richard[_9_]]

On Oct 26, 4:40*pm, Brad > wrote:
> On Oct 26, 3:26*pm, Craig > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 26, 3:04*pm, Morteza Ansari > wrote:
>
> > > Thanks for the info, looks like a pretty good option. Is there any
> > > functionality that you would be missing if you pair it with other
> > > loggers vs. a Nano? *For example if using it with a Colibri, can the
> > > Oudie download flights or set the task or waypoints?
>
> > > Cheers,
> > > Morteza
>
> > If this allows use of PowerFlarm for the GPS input and interfaces with
> > PDAs running LK800 or XCSoar it's a very attractive option.
>
> > Looking forward to seeing the manual.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Craig
>
> Just talked to Richard about the V7....................this will go in
> to my panel eventually. I really like the idea of pitot/static driven
> wind calculations, since like Tony, my purely driven GPS wind is not
> really that accurate and not at all on final glide.
>
> Anyone looking for a nice SB-8??
>
> Brad- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Craig,

I did about 15 hours of flight testing this fall with a similar
setup. PowerFlarm, LX1606 (similar to the V7), Craggy Aero
Ultimate Le, SeeYou PNA. It worked great. The software only shows
PF target at this time. Programming on the flight software will be
require to show the PCAS and ADS-B targets. LK8000 and StrePla will
also show flarm targets.

System examples see:

http://www.craggyaero.com/ultimate_systems.htm

I am sure it will work equally as well with the Oudie, PDA, or PNA
devices.


thanks,

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Craig[_2_]]

On Oct 26, 5:08*pm, Richard > wrote:
> On Oct 26, 4:40*pm, Brad > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 26, 3:26*pm, Craig > wrote:
>
> > > On Oct 26, 3:04*pm, Morteza Ansari > wrote:
>
> > > > Thanks for the info, looks like a pretty good option. Is there any
> > > > functionality that you would be missing if you pair it with other
> > > > loggers vs. a Nano? *For example if using it with a Colibri, can the
> > > > Oudie download flights or set the task or waypoints?
>
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Morteza
>
> > > If this allows use of PowerFlarm for the GPS input and interfaces with
> > > PDAs running LK800 or XCSoar it's a very attractive option.
>
> > > Looking forward to seeing the manual.
>
> > > Thanks,
> > > Craig
>
> > Just talked to Richard about the V7....................this will go in
> > to my panel eventually. I really like the idea of pitot/static driven
> > wind calculations, since like Tony, my purely driven GPS wind is not
> > really that accurate and not at all on final glide.
>
> > Anyone looking for a nice SB-8??
>
> > Brad- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Craig,
>
> I did about 15 hours of flight testing this fall with a similar
> setup. * *PowerFlarm, LX1606 (similar to the V7), *Craggy Aero
> Ultimate Le, *SeeYou PNA. * It worked great. * The software only shows
> PF target at this time. *Programming on the flight software will be
> require to show the PCAS and ADS-B targets. *LK8000 and StrePla will
> also show flarm targets.
>
> System examples see:
>
> http://www.craggyaero.com/ultimate_systems.htm
>
> I am sure it will work equally as well with the Oudie, *PDA, or PNA
> devices.
>
> thanks,
>
> Richardwww.craggyaero.com

Thanks Richard,

That's very encouraging for those of us looking to move into more
modern gear without breaking the bank.

Cheers,
Craig

[Paul Remde]

Yes.

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Eurofighter" > wrote in message
...
>
> Can the V7 be combined with a Colibri and an Oudie?
> I know that the Colibri and the Oudie communicate well and allow for
> task declaration from the Oudie to the Colibri and igc download from
> Colibri to the Oudie.
> Will this work if I connect a V7 between them?
> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
> --
> Eurofighter

[Eurofighter]

SeeYou Mobile has a menu just for configuring the LX1600.
Can that menu be used also for the V7 or Naviter will have to release an update?

[Richard[_9_]]

On Oct 29, 7:25*am, Eurofighter <Eurofighter.
> wrote:
> SeeYou Mobile has a menu just for configuring the LX1600.
> Can that menu be used also for the V7 or Naviter will have to release an
> update?
>
> --
> Eurofighter

EF,

I think it might require some programming. I sent an email to both
LXNAV and Naviter to find out.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Paul Remde]

Hi,

If I remember correctly, the LX1600 did not have any control knobs or other
user-interface - therefore it was necessary to configure it and change the
MacCready on it with a PDA.

Since the LXNAV V7 has a knob / push button user-interface that can do all
setup and in-flight changes, there is no need for SeeYou to have a special
setup menu for it.

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Eurofighter" > wrote in message
...
>
> SeeYou Mobile has a menu just for configuring the LX1600.
> Can that menu be used also for the V7 or Naviter will have to release an
> update?
>
>
>
>
> --
> Eurofighter

[Richard[_9_]]

On Oct 29, 5:41*pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If I remember correctly, the LX1600 did not have any control knobs or other
> user-interface - therefore it was necessary to configure it and change the
> MacCready on it with a PDA.
>
> Since the LXNAV V7 has a knob / push button user-interface that can do all
> setup and in-flight changes, there is no need for SeeYou to have a special
> setup menu for it.
>
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> "Eurofighter" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
> > SeeYou Mobile has a menu just for configuring the LX1600.
> > Can that menu be used also for the V7 or Naviter will have to release an
> > update?
>
> > --
> > Eurofighter- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Paul,

Many things can be change on the Old LX1600 & New LX1606 on two
pages of the SeeYou Mobile software. Pushing buttons and twirling
knobs is very tedious in comparison. The V7 also has two way
communication with the software so it would make sense that pages of
SeeYou may be developed to set up the V7. I beleive the V7 will need
to be defined as an input Device for the SeeYou software, so that will
require some programming. This is the case with other variometers
such as the CAI 302, Tasman, Borgelt, Westerboer, etc.

For those that don't use in flight navigation software it is nice that
the settings can be changed with the knob. But their are many
advantages to setup pages in the software.

Polar. MC +/- & Vol +/- is also much easier to change in the SeeYou
software by Nav Boxes. Especially when you have a large sunlight
readable screen like the Ultimate Le. No need to go two places for
changes.

Lets see what LXNAV & SeeYou say before jumping to conclusions.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[johngalloway[_2_]]

Does the same apply to the new little Colibri 11?

If so that would make it a much better match that the Nano as it would
be a nuisance to have to remove the Nano and hand it over to control
for scoring or to have to transfer the flight log to a card via a
PC. Much more desirable to download the log through the V7 to a card
in a PDA. It would be ironic if the LX Navigation company data
recorder were to be a better match for an LX NAV company variometer
than their own data recorder!

John Galloway


On Oct 27, 8:55*pm, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> Yes.
>
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> "Eurofighter" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Can the V7 be combined with a Colibri and an Oudie?
> > I know that the Colibri and the Oudie communicate well and allow for
> > task declaration from the Oudie to the Colibri and igc download from
> > Colibri to the Oudie.
> > Will this work if I connect a V7 between them?
> > Thank you!
>
> > --
> > Eurofighter

[Eurofighter]

The LX1600/1606 also has the knob/push button

Hi,

If I remember correctly, the LX1600 did not have any control knobs or other
user-interface - therefore it was necessary to configure it and change the
MacCready on it with a PDA.

Since the LXNAV V7 has a knob / push button user-interface that can do all
setup and in-flight changes, there is no need for SeeYou to have a special
setup menu for it.

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
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[Richard[_9_]]

On Oct 30, 6:00*am, Eurofighter <Eurofighter.
> wrote:
> The LX1600/1606 also has the knob/push button
>
> Paul Remde;788324 Wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > If I remember correctly, the LX1600 did not have any control knobs or
> > other
> > user-interface - therefore it was necessary to configure it and change
> > the
> > MacCready on it with a PDA.
>
> > Since the LXNAV V7 has a knob / push button user-interface that can do
> > all
> > setup and in-flight changes, there is no need for SeeYou to have a
> > special
> > setup menu for it.
>
> > Paul Remde
> > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
> >
>
> --
> Eurofighter- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -[/i][/color]

EF

I recieved a response from LXNAV about the SeeYou Mobile Pages.

It will be same pages as for 1600.
However all settings can also be done on V7 itself.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Richard[_9_]]

EF,

Just received the answer about the V7 & SeeYou Mobile.

You have to select LX 1600 as your device in Menu > Settings > Hardware > Device until we fix this in the new version so that this becomes automatic.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Eurofighter]

Thank you!

[[email protected]]

On Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:31:08 AM UTC+10, Richard wrote:
> It is my great pleasure to announce a new product by LXNAV, V7. V7 is a standalone digital speed-to-fly variometer and final glide calculator with GPS input and PDA/PNA input/output. It is a great companion to the Ultimate Le, Oudie, PDA or PNA. See details later today at: www.craggyaero.com Richard www.craggyaero.com

I am considering a Nano - V7 - PNA (Nexus 7 tablet with XC soar) with a Mini oz flarm set up . Could I send all flarm data to the tablet using a bluetooth dongle on the back of the V7? If so, what exactly would appear on my tablet screen? Would I see registration and climb rates for other aircraft?

Mark

[Dave Springford]

Mark,

The V7 will pass data from the GPS source through to XC Soar.

You said you would connect a Nano to the V7, but to get the flarm info. you either need an IOIO board that will take the signals from both the V7 and flarm into the tablet, or mpre simply use the flarm as the GPS source for the V7.

This will allow the flarm info to be passed through the V7 to XC Soar via the V7 bluetooth module.

Dave Springford

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On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 1:02:25 PM UTC+10, Dave Springford wrote:
> Mark, The V7 will pass data from the GPS source through to XC Soar. You said you would connect a Nano to the V7, but to get the flarm info. you either need an IOIO board that will take the signals from both the V7 and flarm into the tablet, or mpre simply use the flarm as the GPS source for the V7.. This will allow the flarm info to be passed through the V7 to XC Soar via the V7 bluetooth module. Dave Springford

Dave,
OK, thanks for that and that sounds like what I want to do, but what will appear on the tablet (xcsoar)? A flarm radar with registration and climb rates? Or just targets. I suppose it doesn't really matter, but it would be nice to see those two things!
Mark

[Dan Daly[_2_]]

Mark, I have an IOIO board mixing an LX7007 Pro IGC and PowerFLARM Core, to a Dell Streak running XC Soar 6.5.

The answer to your questions, in my case - though I'm wired to the Android device not bluetoothing (once the connection is made, really to the user there are no differences) - are:

1. On the map page - you see the FLARM targets and, IF you have installed the FLARMnet database for XC Soar (easy), you also see the contest ID (or whatever the FLARMnet owner has decided to put in - perhaps, registration). Page 104 of the 6.6.5 manual shows a picture.

2. To get more detail, when the FLARM radar screen appears (lower right corner) over top of the screen (so you may lose info boxes depending on your screen set-up), you tap it. It takes over the whole screen; you then get
Top left : If available the FLARM ID of the selected target.
Top right : Vario of the target, derived from the consecutive altitude
messages.
Bottom left : The distance to the target.
Bottom right : The relative height of the target, for the selected target.

You tap again to get rid of it and go back to your navigation screens. Pages 105-108 talk about and show pictures of this (manual at http://www.xcsoar..org/discover/manual.html).

I don't think the PCAS/ADS-B targets are passed from PowerFLARM; I don't know if miniOZ flarm does transponders/ADS-B.

For me, having the flarm take over the whole display is bothersome; even the small flarm radar screen is a problem, overlapping info boxes whenever traffic is displayed (where I fly, airspace is usually nearby). I will probably turn off the flarm radar screens, and just keep the map display of flarm targets. I have an external rectangular Butterfly display that displays flarm targets, climb rates on selected targets; a glance at that screen gets me the info I want, and keeps my head out of the cockpit for the large number of gliders around me that aren't flarm equipped. If you don't have space for a small display, the android display likely will meet your needs; if not, purpose-built flarm displays are fairly cheap.

Overall, for me it works very well; if I lose my Butterfly display in flight, I have a back-up, and get situational awareness of traffic around me on the XC Soar map. You do have to have a friend or vendor make an IOIO box if you are a techno-bozo like me (thanks again Luke). Dave indicates that the dongle will pass the flarm data by bluetooth. A neat solution.

So, in answer to your questions:
A flarm radar with registration and climb rates? Or just targets.

The answers are: Yes (qualified, when you go to the purpose flarm screen), and yes (always, with contest numbers).

There has been discussion on why more tactical data isn't displayed on the main screen; the developers feel that more data would clutter the screen, and that the purpose of the flarm - anti-collision warning - is achieved by the current implementation, and it keeps your head out of the cockpit.

Hope this helps.

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On Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:31:08 PM UTC-4, Richard wrote:
> It is my great pleasure to announce a new product by LXNAV, V7. V7 is a standalone digital speed-to-fly variometer and final glide calculator with GPS input and PDA/PNA input/output. It is a great companion to the Ultimate Le, Oudie, PDA or PNA. See details later today at: www.craggyaero.com Richard www.craggyaero.com

Does the V7 require a proprietary bluetooth dongle or can one purchase a generic module? Are there any specs to consider, if commercial dongles are a player?

Mike

[Dave Springford]

First, thanks Dan for the detailed description for the XC Soar part. I don't use XC Soar, so I couldn't help with that.

As for the Bluetooth adapter, I'm not sure if a generic unit would work. The LX Nav adapter has an RJ connector that plugs directly to the PDA port on the back of the V7 and is wired correctly. I suppose if someone knew what they were doing, they could probably make one. But, the LX Nav adapter is only 75 Euro compared to hours of tinkering.

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On Wednesday, 11 September 2013 07:22:54 UTC+10, Dave Springford wrote:
> First, thanks Dan for the detailed description for the XC Soar part. I don't use XC Soar, so I couldn't help with that.
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> As for the Bluetooth adapter, I'm not sure if a generic unit would work. The LX Nav adapter has an RJ connector that plugs directly to the PDA port on the back of the V7 and is wired correctly. I suppose if someone knew what they were doing, they could probably make one. But, the LX Nav adapter is only 75 Euro compared to hours of tinkering.

Dan, thanks very much for your excellent reply! After all that, I think I may well just get a flarmview (around $300), because I agree, it sounds like the PNA might get a bit cluttered!

Mike - this might help:
http://store.swiftavionics.com.au/v7-pda-bt-bluetooth-module/

Mark

[Dave Springford]

A 57 mm Flarmview unit will be available from LX Nav in October for any one looking for something that mounts a little better in their panel than the current rectangular Flarmview.

[Morgan[_2_]]

On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 5:08:26 PM UTC-7, Dave Springford wrote:
> A 57 mm Flarmview unit will be available from LX Nav in October for any one looking for something that mounts a little better in their panel than the current rectangular Flarmview.

I am very happy with the Flarmview I purchased from Paul Remde. Shocking how small it actually is, so you could pretty easily mount it with any number of standoffs if you needed to. I have it plugged into a Portable unit via a Soartronic BT module. So my Streak gets GPS via bluetooth and the Flarmview is cabled. So far that works well, aside from the portable flarm not performing as well as the Bricks.