Thread hijack

[Andy[_1_]]

At least twice in the last month someone has renamed a thread to make
a post about a completely unrelated subject. Of course this causes
the original thread to disappear.

Is it that the hijacker does not know how to start their own new
thread, or is there a bug in one of the tools being used?

Andy

[vaughn[_3_]]

"Andy" > wrote in message
...
> At least twice in the last month someone has renamed a thread to make
> a post about a completely unrelated subject. Of course this causes
> the original thread to disappear.

Original thread disappear because someone renamed it? Not on my computer!

Vaughn

[Andy[_1_]]

On Oct 25, 9:36*am, "vaughn" > wrote:
> "Andy" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > At least twice in the last month someone has renamed a thread to make
> > a post about a completely unrelated subject. *Of course this causes
> > the original thread to disappear.
>
> Original thread disappear because someone renamed it? *Not on my computer!
>
> Vaughn

Does not appear in thread list except as the new name. Thus the
original thread has disappeared unless one knows to open the thread
with the new name.

Are you saying that you see both the original named thread, and the
newly named thread, as separate items in the thread list? If so, what
reader are you using?


Andy

[S. Murry]

On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 11:58:23 -0500, Andy > wrote:

> On Oct 25, 9:36 am, "vaughn" > wrote:
>> "Andy" > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > At least twice in the last month someone has renamed a thread to make
>> > a post about a completely unrelated subject. Of course this causes
>> > the original thread to disappear.
>>
>> Original thread disappear because someone renamed it? Not on my
>> computer!
>>
>> Vaughn
>
> Does not appear in thread list except as the new name. Thus the
> original thread has disappeared unless one knows to open the thread
> with the new name.
>
> Are you saying that you see both the original named thread, and the
> newly named thread, as separate items in the thread list? If so, what
> reader are you using?
>
>
> Andy
On my computer, the thread stays put, even if renamed. I'm using the
Opera reader.

--
Stefan Murry

[ContestID67[_2_]]

On Oct 25, 11:15*am, Andy > wrote:
> At least twice in the last month someone has renamed a thread to make
> a post about a completely unrelated subject. *Of course this causes
> the original thread to disappear.
>
> Is it that the hijacker does not know how to start their own new
> thread, or is there a bug in one of the tools being used?
>
> Andy


I just noticed this myself on the "Diamant 16.5. - found" topic which
started life as the "IGC Reader for iPhone/iPad Options" topic.

It appears that the "IGC Reader for iPhone/iPad Options" topic has
disappeared and yet all the prior text is still within the "Diamant
16.5. - found" thread.

At least in Google's news reader web site (http://groups.google.com/
group/rec.aviation.soaring) you can search for "IGC Reader for iPhone/
iPad Options" and still find the information. It just no longer shows
up in the list of RAS Topics.

So it didn't disappear so much as it was absorbed. You could
reconstitute the "IGC Reader for iPhone/iPad Options" thread by a copy/
paste all the information into a new thread.

I have alerted the "Diamant 16.5. - found" thread owner that he/she is
doing something wrong when they start a new topic. I don't think
anything nefarious is going on.

[vaughn[_3_]]

"S. Murry" > wrote in message
...
> On my computer, the thread stays put, even if renamed. I'm using the Opera
> reader.

Same deal with Outlook Express. It just leaves the renamed thread buried down
inside the original thread.

Vaughn

[BobW]

On 10/25/2011 10:58 AM, Andy wrote:
> On Oct 25, 9:36 am, > wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> At least twice in the last month someone has renamed a thread to make
>>> a post about a completely unrelated subject. Of course this causes
>>> the original thread to disappear.
>>
>> Original thread disappear because someone renamed it? Not on my computer!
>>
>> Vaughn
>
> Does not appear in thread list except as the new name. Thus the
> original thread has disappeared unless one knows to open the thread
> with the new name.
>
> Are you saying that you see both the original named thread, and the
> newly named thread, as separate items in the thread list? If so, what
> reader are you using?
>
>
> Andy

In Mozilla Thunderbird, if viewing with the "Unread" option checked, new
entries appear under their most recent title.

Changing the viewing option to "All" shows a thread's entire history,
including any topical name changes.

As I type, since the thread originally titled "IGC Reader for iPhone/Pad" and
subsequently re-named/forked to "Diamant 16.5 - found" shows 9
consecutive-in-time posts under the original name, then 4 consecutive-in-time
posts under the second. Cliff Hilty's post of 10/24 at 4:36PM is the most
recent post under the original name.

Bob W.

[ContestID67[_2_]]

On Oct 25, 1:08*pm, "vaughn" > wrote:

> Same deal with Outlook Express. *It just leaves the renamed thread buried down
> inside the original thread.
>
> Vaughn

Google shows the name change, and by whom, in the thread at the point
of the change. Mr. Vaughn changed the name of this thread (using
Outlook Express). I cannot do that using Google.

It would seem like a bad feature to have (confuses the innocent like
in our example above) but this cannot be removed from Network News
feature set at this point even though Google saw fit to remove the
ability from their implementation.

- John

[Andy[_1_]]

On Oct 25, 11:17*am, ContestID67 > wrote:
>*I cannot do that using Google.

Sure you can - just select "edit subject". As I did to this one using
Google groups.

The question is - why would anyone do that if they wanted to start a
discussion on a completely unrelated topic?

Andy

[Dave Hansen]

On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:08:08 -0400, "vaughn"
> wrote:

>
>"S. Murry" > wrote in message
...
>> On my computer, the thread stays put, even if renamed. I'm using the Opera
>> reader.
>
>Same deal with Outlook Express. It just leaves the renamed thread buried down
>inside the original thread.

I'm using an old (1.21/32 from 1999) version of Free Agent. When the
subject of a follow-up to a message is changed, a separate thread is
created. So the old messages remain under the original thread title,
and the new messages show up under the new title.

But that's only because I have the option checked in the preferences
dialog. Perhaps your newsreaders have a similar option?

-=Dave

[Cliff Hilty[_2_]]

Interesting, I am using gliderpilot.net and don't usually view the threads.
Instead I pick a post and then go to the "first in thread" and then in
order as they were written. When the name changes it just continues on
with the new name however, which ever post I am on , if I reply it carries
the thread name it had in that post. I guess you could "restore the name
that way :)

CH

At 18:17 25 October 2011, ContestID67 wrote:
>On Oct 25, 1:08=A0pm, "vaughn" wrote:
>
>> Same deal with Outlook Express. =A0It just leaves the renamed thread
>buri=
>ed down
>> inside the original thread.
>>
>> Vaughn
>
>Google shows the name change, and by whom, in the thread at the point
>of the change. Mr. Vaughn changed the name of this thread (using
>Outlook Express). I cannot do that using Google.
>
>It would seem like a bad feature to have (confuses the innocent like
>in our example above) but this cannot be removed from Network News
>feature set at this point even though Google saw fit to remove the
>ability from their implementation.
>
>- John
>
CH Ventus B

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