US Winching Sites

[Karl Striedieck[_2_]]

We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other
locations?

Thanks

KS

[Tony[_5_]]

On Nov 11, 9:55*am, Karl Striedieck >
wrote:
> We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
> power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other
> locations?
>
> Thanks
>
> KS

Don at Cross Country Soaring at Fairbault, MN uses his winch on the
main runway at the public airport.

[BobW]

On 11/11/2011 8:55 AM, Karl Striedieck wrote:
> We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
> power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other
> locations?
>
> Thanks
>
> KS

Boulder (CO) IS an example of a U.S. airport with (longstanding, since at
least 1976 in my direct exposure) parallel glider/power runways, but over that
time span has NEVER had winch operations to my knowledge.

Regards,
Bob W.

[Frank Whiteley]

On Nov 11, 8:55*am, Karl Striedieck >
wrote:
> We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
> power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other
> locations?
>
> Thanks
>
> KS

No winching at Boulder currently (yet).

From the winchdesign yahoo group.

May not be current or complete.

Notably missing
High Flights, Meadow Lake Airport, CO Hydrowinch
Colorado Spring East, modified Gehrlein
Rose City Soaring, Georgia
Cache Valley Soarnig, Logan, UT (engine upgrade in progress?)
Penn State Soaring Club, Mifflin, PA

Autotow included where applicable below.

"""Site Name""" """Winch""" """Autotow"""
Colorado Soaring Association\, Fort Collins\, CO Single drum\, 350cid
\, 4bbl No
Soaring Sooners Association\, Hinton\, OK Gehrlein single drum
(modified) Yes
Orange County Soaring Assoc.\, Hemet\, CA Gehrlein single drum yes
Los Alamitos CAP Self made two drum no
AGCSC\, Torrey Pines\, CA Roman design
29 Palms Soaring Club\, Twentynine Palms\, CA Gehrlein double drum yes
Permian Soaring Association\, Odessa\, TX Dual design\, single in use
\, 454cid no
Carolina Soaring Association\, Spartanburg\, SC homebuilt\, single drum
\, Ford 460cuin engine\, 310Hp occasionally
Philadelphia Glider Council\, Hilltown\, PA Dual Drum Eagle Winch
Prescott Soaring Society\, Prescott\, AZ Yes No
Finger Lakes Soaring Club\, Dansville\, NY Yes ?
VULTURES SOARING CLUB\, MARLETTE\, MI DREW\, Chev. 350\, Single drum
NO
Cross Country Soaring- Faribault\, MN Gehrlein
Wave Soaring Adventures- Toledo\, WA 253-380-8226 Gehrlein
Faultline Flyers\, Briggs\, TX No Yes
Greater Houston Soaring Assocation (GHSA) Yes\, retrofit of single
drum No (sold, no longer winching)
Sandhill Soaring Club\, Gregory\, MI TOST Model 04 Double Drum No
El Paso Soaring Society Yes No
Mohawk Soaring Club\, North Adams\, MA Yes No (status unknown)

[Frank Whiteley]

On Nov 11, 11:47*am, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
> On Nov 11, 8:55*am, Karl Striedieck >
> wrote:
>
> > We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
> > power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other
> > locations?
>
> > Thanks
>
> > KS
>
> No winching at Boulder currently (yet).
>
> From the winchdesign yahoo group.
>
> May not be current or complete.
>
> Notably missing
> High Flights, Meadow Lake Airport, CO *Hydrowinch
> Colorado Spring East, modified Gehrlein
> Rose City Soaring, Georgia
> Cache Valley Soarnig, Logan, UT (engine upgrade in progress?)
> Penn State Soaring Club, Mifflin, PA
>
> Autotow included where applicable below.
>
> """Site Name""" * """Winch""" * * * """Autotow"""
> Colorado Soaring Association\, Fort Collins\, CO * * * *Single drum\, 350cid
> \, 4bbl No
> Soaring Sooners Association\, Hinton\, OK * * * Gehrlein single drum
> (modified) * * *Yes
> Orange County Soaring Assoc.\, Hemet\, CA * * * Gehrlein single drum * *yes
> Los Alamitos CAP * * * *Self made two drum * * *no
> AGCSC\, Torrey Pines\, CA * * * Roman design
> 29 Palms Soaring Club\, Twentynine Palms\, CA * Gehrlein double drum * *yes
> Permian Soaring Association\, Odessa\, TX * * * Dual design\, single in use
> \, 454cid * * * no
> Carolina Soaring Association\, Spartanburg\, SC homebuilt\, single drum
> \, Ford 460cuin engine\, 310Hp *occasionally
> Philadelphia Glider Council\, Hilltown\, PA * * Dual Drum Eagle Winch
> Prescott Soaring Society\, Prescott\, AZ * * * *Yes * * No
> Finger Lakes Soaring Club\, Dansville\, NY * * *Yes * * ?
> VULTURES SOARING CLUB\, MARLETTE\, MI * DREW\, Chev. 350\, Single drum
> NO
> Cross Country Soaring- Faribault\, MN * Gehrlein
> Wave Soaring Adventures- Toledo\, WA 253-380-8226 * * * Gehrlein
> Faultline Flyers\, Briggs\, TX *No * * *Yes
> Greater Houston Soaring Assocation (GHSA) * * * Yes\, retrofit of single
> drum * *No *(sold, no longer winching)
> Sandhill Soaring Club\, Gregory\, MI * *TOST Model 04 Double Drum * * * No
> El Paso Soaring Society Yes * * No
> Mohawk Soaring Club\, North Adams\, MA *Yes * * No *(status unknown)

One more start up

Menomonie Flying Club, WI, sidewinder winch yes yes

[Stephen[_3_]]

On Nov 11, 1:02*pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
> On Nov 11, 11:47*am, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
>
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>
>
>
>
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> > On Nov 11, 8:55*am, Karl Striedieck >
> > wrote:
>
> > > We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
> > > power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other
> > > locations?
>
> > > Thanks
>
> > > KS
>
> > No winching at Boulder currently (yet).
>
> > From the winchdesign yahoo group.
>
> > May not be current or complete.
>
> > Notably missing
> > High Flights, Meadow Lake Airport, CO *Hydrowinch
> > Colorado Spring East, modified Gehrlein
> > Rose City Soaring, Georgia
> > Cache Valley Soarnig, Logan, UT (engine upgrade in progress?)
> > Penn State Soaring Club, Mifflin, PA
>
> > Autotow included where applicable below.
>
> > """Site Name""" * """Winch""" * * * """Autotow"""
> > Colorado Soaring Association\, Fort Collins\, CO * * * *Single drum\, 350cid
> > \, 4bbl No
> > Soaring Sooners Association\, Hinton\, OK * * * Gehrlein single drum
> > (modified) * * *Yes
> > Orange County Soaring Assoc.\, Hemet\, CA * * * Gehrlein single drum * *yes
> > Los Alamitos CAP * * * *Self made two drum * * *no
> > AGCSC\, Torrey Pines\, CA * * * Roman design
> > 29 Palms Soaring Club\, Twentynine Palms\, CA * Gehrlein double drum * *yes
> > Permian Soaring Association\, Odessa\, TX * * * Dual design\, single in use
> > \, 454cid * * * no
> > Carolina Soaring Association\, Spartanburg\, SC homebuilt\, single drum
> > \, Ford 460cuin engine\, 310Hp *occasionally
> > Philadelphia Glider Council\, Hilltown\, PA * * Dual Drum Eagle Winch
> > Prescott Soaring Society\, Prescott\, AZ * * * *Yes * * No
> > Finger Lakes Soaring Club\, Dansville\, NY * * *Yes * * ?
> > VULTURES SOARING CLUB\, MARLETTE\, MI * DREW\, Chev. 350\, Single drum
> > NO
> > Cross Country Soaring- Faribault\, MN * Gehrlein
> > Wave Soaring Adventures- Toledo\, WA 253-380-8226 * * * Gehrlein
> > Faultline Flyers\, Briggs\, TX *No * * *Yes
> > Greater Houston Soaring Assocation (GHSA) * * * Yes\, retrofit of single
> > drum * *No *(sold, no longer winching)
> > Sandhill Soaring Club\, Gregory\, MI * *TOST Model 04 Double Drum * * * No
> > El Paso Soaring Society Yes * * No
> > Mohawk Soaring Club\, North Adams\, MA *Yes * * No *(status unknown)
>
> One more start up
>
> Menomonie Flying Club, WI, sidewinder winch yes yes

The Soaring Sooners Glider Club operates our winch off the Hinton
Municipal Airport main runway under agreement with the Airport
Manager. There is light power traffic in and out of the airport.
Stephen S9

[Frank Whiteley]

On Nov 11, 11:47*am, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
> On Nov 11, 8:55*am, Karl Striedieck >
> wrote:
>
> > We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
> > power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other
> > locations?
>
> > Thanks
>
> > KS
>
> No winching at Boulder currently (yet).
>
> From the winchdesign yahoo group.
>
> May not be current or complete.
>
> Notably missing
># High Flights, Meadow Lake Airport, CO *Hydrowinch
> #Colorado Spring East, modified Gehrlein
> #Rose City Soaring, Georgia
> #Cache Valley Soarnig, Logan, UT (engine upgrade in progress?)
> #Penn State Soaring Club, Mifflin, PA
>
> Autotow included where applicable below.
>
> """Site Name""" * """Winch""" * * * """Autotow"""
> Colorado Soaring Association\, Wellington\, CO * * * *Single drum\, 350cid
> \, 4bbl No
> #Soaring Sooners Glider Club\, Hinton\, OK * * * Gehrlein single drum
> (modified) * * *Yes
> #Orange County Soaring Assoc.\, Hemet\, CA * * * Gehrlein single drum * *yes
> #Los Alamitos CAP * * * *Self made two drum * * *no
> #AGCSC\, Torrey Pines\, CA * * * Roman design
> #29 Palms Soaring Club\, Twentynine Palms\, CA * Gehrlein double drum * *yes
> #Permian Soaring Association\, Odessa\, TX * * * Dual design\, single in use
> \, 454cid * * * no
> #Carolina Soaring Association\, Spartanburg\, SC homebuilt\, single drum
> \, Ford 460cuin engine\, 310Hp *occasionally
> Philadelphia Glider Council\, Hilltown\, PA * * Dual Drum Eagle Winch
> Prescott Soaring Society\, Prescott\, AZ * * * *Yes * * No
> #Finger Lakes Soaring Club\, Dansville\, NY * * *Yes * * ?
> #VULTURES SOARING CLUB\, MARLETTE\, MI * DREW\, Chev. 350\, Single drum
> NO
> #Cross Country Soaring- Faribault\, MN * Gehrlein
> #Wave Soaring Adventures- Toledo\, WA 253-380-8226 * * * Gehrlein
> Faultline Flyers\, Briggs\, TX *No * * *Yes
> Greater Houston Soaring Assocation (GHSA) * * * Yes\, retrofit of single
> drum * *No *(sold, no longer winching)
> Sandhill Soaring Club\, Gregory\, MI * *TOST Model 04 Double Drum * * * No
> #El Paso Soaring Society Yes * * No
> Mohawk Soaring Club\, North Adams\, MA *Yes * * No *(status unknown)
#Greater Boston Soaring Club (MITSA)
#Shreveport Soaring
#Menomonie Flying Club, WI, sidewinder winch yes yes

Those marked with a # operate or have operated off of mixed use public/
private airports using main runways, taxiways, or adjacent surfaces.

[RAS56]

;789192']We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other
locations?

Thanks

KS

The folks down in Boerne, Texas have winch ops intermingled with power traffic.

Non-towered airport, Boerne Stage Field...5C1

http://www.5c1.net/sass.html

Dave White is the main instructor, good guy, can give you more info on their ops.

http://www.salsaaviation.com/aboutsalsa.html

[[email protected]]

On Nov 11, 10:55*am, Karl Striedieck >
wrote:
> We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
> power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other
> locations?
>
> Thanks
>
> KS

The Carolina Soaring Association is actively winching off the
Spartanburg Downtown airport (KSPA). We have mixed traffic - anything
from home-built single engine planes to business jets, helicopters and
anything inbetween. Works well so far.

Uli Neumann
'CSA's Winchmeister'

[[email protected]]

On Nov 12, 1:35*am, wrote:
> On Nov 11, 10:55*am, Karl Striedieck >
> wrote:
>
> > We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
> > power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other
> > locations?
>
> > Thanks
>
> > KS
>
> The Carolina Soaring Association is actively winching off the
> Spartanburg Downtown airport (KSPA). We have mixed traffic - anything
> from home-built single engine planes to business jets, helicopters and
> anything inbetween. Works well so far.
>
> Uli Neumann
> 'CSA's Winchmeister'

Today, about 8-10 business jets came into KSPA since there is a
republican presidential debate at a local college tonight, all while
we were winching. It works since we all talk to each other and the
winch launch announcements are being made on the unicom frequency.
Only once did I have to tell one of the jet-jock's to hold their take-
off since the line was not on the ground, yet.
Uli Neumann

[Herbert kilian]

On Nov 12, 7:09*pm, wrote:
> On Nov 12, 1:35*am, wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 10:55*am, Karl Striedieck >
> > wrote:
>
> > > We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
> > > power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other
> > > locations?
>
> > > Thanks
>
> > > KS
>
> > The Carolina Soaring Association is actively winching off the
> > Spartanburg Downtown airport (KSPA). We have mixed traffic - anything
> > from home-built single engine planes to business jets, helicopters and
> > anything inbetween. Works well so far.
>
> > Uli Neumann
> > 'CSA's Winchmeister'
>
> Today, about 8-10 business jets came into KSPA since there is a
> republican presidential debate at a local college tonight, all while
> we were winching. It works since we all talk to each other and the
> winch launch announcements are being made on the unicom frequency.
> Only once did I have to tell one of the jet-jock's to hold their take-
> off since the line was not on the ground, yet.
> Uli Neumann

Uli,
I still have my Windenfahrerschein back from the 80's in Germany.
There were over 3,000 winch launches that I did at our Bisperode Ith
location (near Hamelin) from the winch drivers seat. Since you
probably need a relief driver now and then, it may be time for Renate
and me to relocate to Spartanburg.
Herb, J7

[[email protected]]

On Nov 13, 1:17*pm, Herbert kilian > wrote:
> On Nov 12, 7:09*pm, wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 12, 1:35*am, wrote:
>
> > > On Nov 11, 10:55*am, Karl Striedieck >
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
> > > > power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other
> > > > locations?
>
> > > > Thanks
>
> > > > KS
>
> > > The Carolina Soaring Association is actively winching off the
> > > Spartanburg Downtown airport (KSPA). We have mixed traffic - anything
> > > from home-built single engine planes to business jets, helicopters and
> > > anything inbetween. Works well so far.
>
> > > Uli Neumann
> > > 'CSA's Winchmeister'
>
> > Today, about 8-10 business jets came into KSPA since there is a
> > republican presidential debate at a local college tonight, all while
> > we were winching. It works since we all talk to each other and the
> > winch launch announcements are being made on the unicom frequency.
> > Only once did I have to tell one of the jet-jock's to hold their take-
> > off since the line was not on the ground, yet.
> > Uli Neumann
>
> Uli,
> I still have my Windenfahrerschein back from the 80's in Germany.
> There were over 3,000 winch launches that I did at our Bisperode Ith
> location (near Hamelin) from the winch drivers seat. *Since you
> probably need a relief driver now and then, it may be time for Renate
> and me to relocate to Spartanburg.
> Herb, J7- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Hello Herbert,

that makes two with a 'Windenfahrerschein'! :-) And yes, I could use a
relief now and then despite having trained a number of operators by
now, so come on down this winter.

Uli

[Frank Whiteley]

On Nov 11, 4:47*pm, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
> On Nov 11, 11:47*am, Frank Whiteley > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 11, 8:55*am, Karl Striedieck >
> > wrote:
>
> > > We need examples of glider winch operations in the US at airports with
> > > power traffic. Boulder comes to mind. Do readers know of other
> > > locations?
>
> > > Thanks
>
> > > KS
>
> > No winching at Boulder currently (yet).
>
> > From the winchdesign yahoo group.
>
> > May not be current or complete.
>
> > Notably missing
> ># High Flights, Meadow Lake Airport, CO *Hydrowinch
> > #Colorado Spring East, modified Gehrlein
> > #Rose City Soaring, Georgia
> > #Cache Valley Soarnig, Logan, UT (engine upgrade in progress?)
> > #Penn State Soaring Club, Mifflin, PA
>
> > Autotow included where applicable below.
>
> > """Site Name""" * """Winch""" * * * """Autotow"""
> > Colorado Soaring Association\, Wellington\, CO * * * *Single drum\, 350cid
> > \, 4bbl No
> > #Soaring Sooners Glider Club\, Hinton\, OK * * * Gehrlein single drum
> > (modified) * * *Yes
> > #Orange County Soaring Assoc.\, Hemet\, CA * * * Gehrlein single drum * *yes
> > #Los Alamitos CAP * * * *Self made two drum * * *no
> > #AGCSC\, Torrey Pines\, CA * * * Roman design
> > #29 Palms Soaring Club\, Twentynine Palms\, CA * Gehrlein double drum * *yes
> > #Permian Soaring Association\, Odessa\, TX * * * Dual design\, single in use
> > \, 454cid * * * no
> > #Carolina Soaring Association\, Spartanburg\, SC homebuilt\, single drum
> > \, Ford 460cuin engine\, 310Hp *occasionally
> > Philadelphia Glider Council\, Hilltown\, PA * * Dual Drum Eagle Winch
> > Prescott Soaring Society\, Prescott\, AZ * * * *Yes * * No
> > #Finger Lakes Soaring Club\, Dansville\, NY * * *Yes * * ?
> > #VULTURES SOARING CLUB\, MARLETTE\, MI * DREW\, Chev. 350\, Single drum
> > NO
> > #Cross Country Soaring- Faribault\, MN * Gehrlein
> > #Wave Soaring Adventures- Toledo\, WA 253-380-8226 * * * Gehrlein
> > Faultline Flyers\, Briggs\, TX *No * * *Yes
> > Greater Houston Soaring Assocation (GHSA) * * * Yes\, retrofit of single
> > drum * *No *(sold, no longer winching)
> > Sandhill Soaring Club\, Gregory\, MI * *TOST Model 04 Double Drum * * * No
> > #El Paso Soaring Society Yes * * No
> > Mohawk Soaring Club\, North Adams\, MA *Yes * * No *(status unknown)
>
> #Greater Boston Soaring Club (MITSA)
> #Shreveport Soaring
> #Menomonie Flying Club, WI, sidewinder winch yes yes
>
> Those marked with a # operate or have operated off of mixed use public/
> private airports using main runways, taxiways, or adjacent surfaces.

#Caprock Soaring Club, Littlefield, TX

[Randy[_2_]]

We just purchased a winch this past weekend and are planning to use it
at the Pryor/ MidAmerica Airport (H71). We still need to get
permission
to use it here. There is very little power traffic except for about 6
active
local pilots and a few transitional pilots coming in for fuel.


Randy

Tulsa, OK

http://tulsasoaring.com/
http://talihinasoaring.com/