Stinson 108-1 as a tug?

[Gary Boggs]

Has anyone used a Stinson 108 to tow? I'm considering a 108-1 with a
190hp 0435 in it. I know it won't be as good as a Pawnee, but will it
be good enough?

Thoughts and opinions please.

Boggs

[Bill D]

On Dec 9, 7:22*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
> Has anyone used a Stinson 108 to tow? *I'm considering a 108-1 with a
> 190hp 0435 in it. *I know it won't be as good as a Pawnee, but will it
> be good enough?
>
> Thoughts and opinions please.
>
> Boggs

I recall tows in an LK-10A behind a WW2 surplus L-5 with a six-
cylinder Lycoming O-435 engine of 190 horsepower. Even with this
engine, it seemed heavy and underpowered. My most vivid recollection
is of awesome wake turbulence and unimpressive climb rate.

[T[_2_]]

On Dec 9, 6:22*am, GARY BOGGS > wrote:
> Has anyone used a Stinson 108 to tow? *I'm considering a 108-1 with a
> 190hp 0435 in it. *I know it won't be as good as a Pawnee, but will it
> be good enough?
>
> Thoughts and opinions please.
>
> Boggs

How does the Stinson climb with full fuel and pilot at 60kias?If the
climb rate is mediocre, don't expect it to be a good tow plane.
Our Pawnee will climb at 1200fpm at 60kias with no one on tow. Add a
2-33 or Grob 103 with 2 people and the climb rate drops to 600fpm. So
if the Stinson will only climb at 400-500fpm, you may only get 200fpm
on tow.

T

[Paul T[_4_]]

At 16:45 09 December 2011, Bill D wrote:
>On Dec 9, 7:22=A0am, GARY BOGGS wrote:
>> Has anyone used a Stinson 108 to tow? =A0I'm considering a 108-1 with a
>> 190hp 0435 in it. =A0I know it won't be as good as a Pawnee, but will
it
>> be good enough?
>>
>> Thoughts and opinions please.
>>
>> Boggs
>
>I recall tows in an LK-10A behind a WW2 surplus L-5 with a six-
>cylinder Lycoming O-435 engine of 190 horsepower. Even with this
>engine, it seemed heavy and underpowered. My most vivid recollection
>is of awesome wake turbulence and unimpressive climb rate.
>

I believe if memory serves me right that they used to tow behind a Stinson
108 at Invermere B.C. in the late 90's - all I'll say is some tows were
sometimes interesting! Might be worth contacting Trevor Florence there for
his views.

[Dan[_6_]]

On Dec 10, 4:17*am, Paul T > wrote:
> At 16:45 09 December 2011, Bill D wrote:
>
> >On Dec 9, 7:22=A0am, GARY BOGGS *wrote:
> >> Has anyone used a Stinson 108 to tow? =A0I'm considering a 108-1 with a
> >> 190hp 0435 in it. =A0I know it won't be as good as a Pawnee, but will
> it
> >> be good enough?
>
> >> Thoughts and opinions please.
>
> >> Boggs
>
> >I recall tows in an LK-10A behind a WW2 surplus L-5 with a six-
> >cylinder Lycoming O-435 engine of 190 horsepower. *Even with this
> >engine, it seemed heavy and underpowered. *My most vivid recollection
> >is of awesome wake turbulence and unimpressive climb rate.
>
> I believe if memory serves me right that they used to tow behind a Stinson
> 108 at Invermere B.C. in the late 90's - all I'll say is some tows were
> sometimes interesting! Might be worth contacting Trevor Florence there for
> his views.

not exactly the same but the banner towing company at my local airport
uses a fleet of them.
they've used them for years and they seem to do just fine.
They pull some huge banners.
Dan
WO

[Dan Marotta]

It's been about 36 years since I flew a Stinson 108 but, if memory serves, I
wouldn't want to be on either end of the tow rope if the glider was
loaded...


"Dan" > wrote in message
...
On Dec 10, 4:17 am, Paul T > wrote:
> At 16:45 09 December 2011, Bill D wrote:
>
> >On Dec 9, 7:22=A0am, GARY BOGGS wrote:
> >> Has anyone used a Stinson 108 to tow? =A0I'm considering a 108-1 with a
> >> 190hp 0435 in it. =A0I know it won't be as good as a Pawnee, but will
> it
> >> be good enough?
>
> >> Thoughts and opinions please.
>
> >> Boggs
>
> >I recall tows in an LK-10A behind a WW2 surplus L-5 with a six-
> >cylinder Lycoming O-435 engine of 190 horsepower. Even with this
> >engine, it seemed heavy and underpowered. My most vivid recollection
> >is of awesome wake turbulence and unimpressive climb rate.
>
> I believe if memory serves me right that they used to tow behind a Stinson
> 108 at Invermere B.C. in the late 90's - all I'll say is some tows were
> sometimes interesting! Might be worth contacting Trevor Florence there for
> his views.

not exactly the same but the banner towing company at my local airport
uses a fleet of them.
they've used them for years and they seem to do just fine.
They pull some huge banners.
Dan
WO

[Auxvache]

We used to have a 108-3 with the Continental O-470 conversion.
My first power solo, and a much beloved airplane.
With one notch of flaps, it towed like a, like a, like a prettier 235
Pawnee.
Recommended!

[Dan Marotta]

Sure didn't fly like a Pawnee, though...


"Auxvache" > wrote in message
...
> We used to have a 108-3 with the Continental O-470 conversion.
> My first power solo, and a much beloved airplane.
> With one notch of flaps, it towed like a, like a, like a prettier 235
> Pawnee.
> Recommended!
>