Oshkosh Bound With Ham Radio

[Jim Weir]

In about two weeks (and for ten days thereafter) the largest collection of
aircraft in the world will be converging on Oshkosh WI from all corners of the
USA and several countries. The show actually starts on the 29th of July and
ends on the 4th of August, but the heaviest traffic is going to be the weekends
of 26 July and 2 August.

There is a large crossbreeding of pilots and hams. Our (admittedly
nonscientific) research shows that approximately 15% of all certificated pilots
are also certificated amateur radio operators. Given that there will be about
10,000 aircraft flying in at some point during the week, that means 1500
pilot-hams will be in the air somewhere over this country.

Most of us flying our own aircraft have installed ham rigs in the airplane,
predominantly 2-meters. Most of the rest will at least have an HT with them.

If you hear one of us on 52 simplex, please give us a shout. Flying between,
oh, say, Salt Lake to Minneapolis is hours and hours of nothing but hours and
hours. And, please excuse us if you turn it back to us and we don't immediately
respond. Every now and again the ground controllers want us to talk with them,
and with all due respects, they've got priority.

Jim & Gail
WX6RST & KB9MII

Cessna 182A N 73 CQ


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[JimC]

I have noticed an overlap between piloting and amateur radio too but have
never put a number to it. Back in the days when I was active on radio I
communicated with several people in planes. Now I'm a pilot too but have
not operated amateur radio from the air. Sounds like something to look
into.

Do people still exchange QSL cards?

Good flying,

JimC
N2233W
WT0J

"Jim Weir" > wrote in message
...
> In about two weeks (and for ten days thereafter) the largest collection of
> aircraft in the world will be converging on Oshkosh WI from all corners of
the
> USA and several countries. The show actually starts on the 29th of July
and
> ends on the 4th of August, but the heaviest traffic is going to be the
weekends
> of 26 July and 2 August.
>
> There is a large crossbreeding of pilots and hams. Our (admittedly
> nonscientific) research shows that approximately 15% of all certificated
pilots
> are also certificated amateur radio operators. Given that there will be
about
> 10,000 aircraft flying in at some point during the week, that means 1500
> pilot-hams will be in the air somewhere over this country.
>
> Most of us flying our own aircraft have installed ham rigs in the
airplane,
> predominantly 2-meters. Most of the rest will at least have an HT with
them.
>
> If you hear one of us on 52 simplex, please give us a shout. Flying
between,
> oh, say, Salt Lake to Minneapolis is hours and hours of nothing but hours
and
> hours. And, please excuse us if you turn it back to us and we don't
immediately
> respond. Every now and again the ground controllers want us to talk with
them,
> and with all due respects, they've got priority.
>
> Jim & Gail
> WX6RST & KB9MII
>
> Cessna 182A N 73 CQ
>
>
> Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
> VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
> http://www.rst-engr.com

[Peter Gottlieb]

Maybe a good time to get back on the air. Besides the 146.52 simplex, what
repeaters are best for use at the show?

It's been a long time. Is receive or transmit (on the portable) higher?



"Jim Weir" > wrote in message
...
> In about two weeks (and for ten days thereafter) the largest collection of
> aircraft in the world will be converging on Oshkosh WI from all corners of
the
> USA and several countries. The show actually starts on the 29th of July
and
> ends on the 4th of August, but the heaviest traffic is going to be the
weekends
> of 26 July and 2 August.
>
> There is a large crossbreeding of pilots and hams. Our (admittedly
> nonscientific) research shows that approximately 15% of all certificated
pilots
> are also certificated amateur radio operators. Given that there will be
about
> 10,000 aircraft flying in at some point during the week, that means 1500
> pilot-hams will be in the air somewhere over this country.
>
> Most of us flying our own aircraft have installed ham rigs in the
airplane,
> predominantly 2-meters. Most of the rest will at least have an HT with
them.
>
> If you hear one of us on 52 simplex, please give us a shout. Flying
between,
> oh, say, Salt Lake to Minneapolis is hours and hours of nothing but hours
and
> hours. And, please excuse us if you turn it back to us and we don't
immediately
> respond. Every now and again the ground controllers want us to talk with
them,
> and with all due respects, they've got priority.
>
> Jim & Gail
> WX6RST & KB9MII
>
> Cessna 182A N 73 CQ
>
>
> Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
> VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
> http://www.rst-engr.com

[Scott]

Not sure if I understand the question, but if you are referring to the
offsets on the HT to access repeaters, on 2 Meters, below 147.000 you
transmit 600 KHz down from your receive freq. and above 147.000 you
transmit 600 KHz above your receive freq. There are exceptions such as
exactly at 147.000...some repeaters listen 600 KHZ down and some listen
600 KHz above and the (few) repeaters with odd splits. Examples: Set
your HT to listen to a repeater at 145.190 and you transmit back to it
at 144.590, Listen at 146.610 and TX at 146.010, and finally, listen at
147.300 and TX at 147.900.

As for repeaters at OSH...I've never been able to get anyone to talk to
me, but here is a link to the listing of all Wisconsin repeaters:
http://www.wi-repeaters.org/warlst.htm

Scott
N0EDV
Listening 146.580 Simplex at OSH
Also Listening FRS Channel 5 Tone 12 (call "Acepilot")



Peter Gottlieb wrote:
>
> Maybe a good time to get back on the air. Besides the 146.52 simplex, what
> repeaters are best for use at the show?
>
> It's been a long time. Is receive or transmit (on the portable) higher?
>
> "Jim Weir" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In about two weeks (and for ten days thereafter) the largest collection of
> > aircraft in the world will be converging on Oshkosh WI from all corners of
> the
> > USA and several countries. The show actually starts on the 29th of July
> and
> > ends on the 4th of August, but the heaviest traffic is going to be the
> weekends
> > of 26 July and 2 August.
> >
> > There is a large crossbreeding of pilots and hams. Our (admittedly
> > nonscientific) research shows that approximately 15% of all certificated
> pilots
> > are also certificated amateur radio operators. Given that there will be
> about
> > 10,000 aircraft flying in at some point during the week, that means 1500
> > pilot-hams will be in the air somewhere over this country.
> >
> > Most of us flying our own aircraft have installed ham rigs in the
> airplane,
> > predominantly 2-meters. Most of the rest will at least have an HT with
> them.
> >
> > If you hear one of us on 52 simplex, please give us a shout. Flying
> between,
> > oh, say, Salt Lake to Minneapolis is hours and hours of nothing but hours
> and
> > hours. And, please excuse us if you turn it back to us and we don't
> immediately
> > respond. Every now and again the ground controllers want us to talk with
> them,
> > and with all due respects, they've got priority.
> >
> > Jim & Gail
> > WX6RST & KB9MII
> >
> > Cessna 182A N 73 CQ
> >
> >
> > Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
> > VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
> > http://www.rst-engr.com

--

Scott
http://corbenflyer.tripod.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ParasolAirplanes
Building RV-4
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die!

[Jim Weir]

Scott >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

[snip some particularly confusing answers]


->As for repeaters at OSH...I've never been able to get anyone to talk to
->me

Why not download just the Oshkosh repeaters from the Oshkosh frequency chart at
www.rstengineering.com ? I've never had a problem with getting ANY of the
locals to talk to me; they actually seem to be a very nice lot.


->Listening 146.580 Simplex at OSH


Why don't you try 52 simplex? That's where the rest of us are going to be


Jim
Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Peter Gottlieb]

"Jim Weir" > wrote in message
...
> Scott >


Thank you both. I'll reprogram my Visar tonight (and hopefully there won't
be a CAP mission I need to be on until OSH).

Peter

[Jay Honeck]

> Most of us flying our own aircraft have installed ham rigs in the
airplane,
> predominantly 2-meters. Most of the rest will at least have an HT with
them.

Hey Jim -- can you set up your radio at poolside?

We can be "live from the Alexis Park Inn & Suites" worldwide during the
fly-in pool party!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jim Weir]

Well, we certainly can, Jay. Both Gail and I (WX6RST and KB9MII) carry
handhelds that will do as well as a full-featured rig, but...

2 meters is just a little above the VHF COM band...that is, line of sight.
"Live from the ...." will be anything within a hundred miles or so at 5000MSL or
so, and I really wouldn't expect one, maybe two checkins all of Sunday afternoon
and evening.

HOWEVER, as the Wizard of Cheap-Ass Homebuilt Antennas, I'll bring along
something that will let us listen to any of our brethren and sistren that choose
to yack at us as they proceed along their chosen course.

Jim & Gail






"Jay Honeck" >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->> Most of us flying our own aircraft have installed ham rigs in the
->airplane,
->> predominantly 2-meters. Most of the rest will at least have an HT with
->them.
->
->Hey Jim -- can you set up your radio at poolside?
->
->We can be "live from the Alexis Park Inn & Suites" worldwide during the
->fly-in pool party!

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[john smith]

> Hey Jim -- can you set up your radio at poolside?
> We can be "live from the Alexis Park Inn & Suites" worldwide during the
> fly-in pool party!

Hmmm... satellite, earth-moon-earth, or HF?

[Jay Honeck]

> Well, we certainly can, Jay. Both Gail and I (WX6RST and KB9MII) carry
> handhelds that will do as well as a full-featured rig, but...

Cool!

AND, just to add some high-voltage fun to our little get together, our very
own Aviv Hod has agreed to display (and fly!) his very cool (and scarily
bizarre) "flying machine" (he calls it a "lifter") that flies with no
visible means of propulsion -- just for all of our Usenet visitors.

As you may recall, this contraption looks for all the world like a billiards
triangle, attaches to some VERY high voltage power supplies, and flies on a
stream of ions -- or something like that. It makes a cool humming noise,
and probably emits deadly radiation. Best of all, if you touch it, you die
instantly!

(Sounds like a great thing to have at poolside while drinking beer -- no? :)

But, honestly, he'll be there all day long, demonstrating it for all of our
startled guests. Don't miss it!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Peter Gottlieb]

Perhaps with a repeater up at 20,000 feet on a balloon? That should get
some decent range.



"Jim Weir" > wrote in message
...
> Well, we certainly can, Jay. Both Gail and I (WX6RST and KB9MII) carry
> handhelds that will do as well as a full-featured rig, but...
>
> 2 meters is just a little above the VHF COM band...that is, line of sight.
> "Live from the ...." will be anything within a hundred miles or so at
5000MSL or
> so, and I really wouldn't expect one, maybe two checkins all of Sunday
afternoon
> and evening.
>
> HOWEVER, as the Wizard of Cheap-Ass Homebuilt Antennas, I'll bring along
> something that will let us listen to any of our brethren and sistren that
choose
> to yack at us as they proceed along their chosen course.
>
> Jim & Gail
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jay Honeck" >
> shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:
>
> ->> Most of us flying our own aircraft have installed ham rigs in the
> ->airplane,
> ->> predominantly 2-meters. Most of the rest will at least have an HT
with
> ->them.
> ->
> ->Hey Jim -- can you set up your radio at poolside?
> ->
> ->We can be "live from the Alexis Park Inn & Suites" worldwide during the
> ->fly-in pool party!
>
> Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
> VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
> http://www.rst-engr.com

[Richard Lamb]

As long as it's not tethered?


Peter Gottlieb wrote:
>
> Perhaps with a repeater up at 20,000 feet on a balloon? That should get
> some decent range.
>
> "Jim Weir" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Well, we certainly can, Jay. Both Gail and I (WX6RST and KB9MII) carry
> > handhelds that will do as well as a full-featured rig, but...
> >
> > 2 meters is just a little above the VHF COM band...that is, line of sight.
> > "Live from the ...." will be anything within a hundred miles or so at
> 5000MSL or
> > so, and I really wouldn't expect one, maybe two checkins all of Sunday
> afternoon
> > and evening.
> >
> > HOWEVER, as the Wizard of Cheap-Ass Homebuilt Antennas, I'll bring along
> > something that will let us listen to any of our brethren and sistren that
> choose
> > to yack at us as they proceed along their chosen course.
> >
> > Jim & Gail
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jay Honeck" >
> > shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:
> >
> > ->> Most of us flying our own aircraft have installed ham rigs in the
> > ->airplane,
> > ->> predominantly 2-meters. Most of the rest will at least have an HT
> with
> > ->them.
> > ->
> > ->Hey Jim -- can you set up your radio at poolside?
> > ->
> > ->We can be "live from the Alexis Park Inn & Suites" worldwide during the
> > ->fly-in pool party!
> >
> > Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
> > VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
> > http://www.rst-engr.com

[Roger Halstead]

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 08:18:43 -0700, Jim Weir > wrote:

>Scott >
>shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:
>
>[snip some particularly confusing answers]
>
>
>->As for repeaters at OSH...I've never been able to get anyone to talk to
>->me
>
>Why not download just the Oshkosh repeaters from the Oshkosh frequency chart at
>www.rstengineering.com ? I've never had a problem with getting ANY of the
>locals to talk to me; they actually seem to be a very nice lot.

Couple years ago the locals had a ham station set up over by Baslers.
I stopped by and shot the breeze for quite some time.

I'd assume they make it a regular tradition, but I've not been there
the past few years.

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)
>
>
>->Listening 146.580 Simplex at OSH
>
>
>Why don't you try 52 simplex? That's where the rest of us are going to be


>
>
>Jim
>Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
>VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
>http://www.rst-engr.com

[Jay Honeck]

> Perhaps with a repeater up at 20,000 feet on a balloon? That should get
> some decent range.

Might want to file a NOTAM for that one. (We're adjacent to RWY 25,
rememember!)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"