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wallyboy
June 13th 11, 09:12 PM
I'm posting this blind, so someone else may have posted it.

The Liberty Bell crashed and burned outside Chicago this morning. I't a
total loss.





Chicago Tribune article:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chibrknews-crews-responding-to-incident-involving-wwii-bomber-20110613,0,5852034.story

wallyboy
June 13th 11, 09:28 PM
On 2011-06-13 15:12:14 -0500, wallyboy said:

> I'm posting this blind, so someone else may have posted it.
>
> The Liberty Bell crashed and burned outside Chicago this morning. I't a
> total loss.
>
>
>
> <image>
>
>
> Chicago Tribune article:
>
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chibrknews-crews-responding-to-incident-involving-wwii-bomber-20110613,0,5852034.story

Nobody
>
hurt. It looks like the ragged edge of a "good landing."

Indrek[_2_]
June 13th 11, 11:00 PM
"wallyboy" > wrote in message
news:2011061315283753306-chezelwig1@comcastnet...
> On 2011-06-13 15:12:14 -0500, wallyboy said:
>
>> I'm posting this blind, so someone else may have posted it.
>>
>> The Liberty Bell crashed and burned outside Chicago this morning. I't a
>> total loss.
>>
>>
>>
>> <image>
>>
>>
>> Chicago Tribune article:
>>
>> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chibrknews-crews-responding-to-incident-involving-wwii-bomber-20110613,0,5852034.story
>
> Nobody
>>
> hurt. It looks like the ragged edge of a "good landing."
>

Thankfully everyone on board walked away.

It does not look as though much can be salvaged from the remains of the
aircraft. Bummer.

Cheers,

Indrek Aavisto


--
Criticism is easy; achievement is difficult W.S. Churchill

Stetson J.B. Mentzer
June 14th 11, 12:22 AM
Hi all

Deep link to the Chicago Trib's slideshow:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-110613-b17-plane-crash-pictures,0,3672607.photogallery

The inboard engine on the Pilot's wing has feathered props. Is that
engine No. 2? Also, Dan McHale's photos and aerial photos show a
wheels-down landing and roll out. Too bad it didn't make the airfield
.... they might've saved it.

/Stetson



On 6/13/11 16:28 , wallyboy wrote:
> On 2011-06-13 15:12:14 -0500, wallyboy said:
>
>> I'm posting this blind, so someone else may have posted it.
>>
>> The Liberty Bell crashed and burned outside Chicago this morning. I't a
>> total loss.
>>
>>
>>
>> <image>
>>
>>
>> Chicago Tribune article:
>>
>> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chibrknews-crews-responding-to-incident-involving-wwii-bomber-20110613,0,5852034.story
>>
>
> Nobody
>>
> hurt. It looks like the ragged edge of a "good landing."
>

Bob (not my real pseudonym)
June 14th 11, 12:55 AM
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:12:14 -0500, wallyboy >
wrote:

>I'm posting this blind, so someone else may have posted it.
>
>The Liberty Bell crashed and burned outside Chicago this morning. I't a
>total loss.

Thankfully, everybody aboard is okay.

'Liberty Belle' was just in Seattle a few weeks ago.

RIP, Pretty Lady...

Bob ^,,^

Indrek[_2_]
June 14th 11, 01:17 AM
"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:12:14 -0500, wallyboy >
> wrote:
>
>>I'm posting this blind, so someone else may have posted it.
>>
>>The Liberty Bell crashed and burned outside Chicago this morning. I't a
>>total loss.
>
> Thankfully, everybody aboard is okay.
>
> 'Liberty Belle' was just in Seattle a few weeks ago.
>
> RIP, Pretty Lady...
>
> Bob ^,,^
>
>
here are a few more taken last year.

Cheers,

Indrek Aavisto


--
Criticism is easy; achievement is difficult W.S. Churchill

Savageduck[_3_]
June 14th 11, 05:05 AM
On 2011-06-13 16:22:52 -0700, "Stetson J.B. Mentzer"
> said:

> Hi all
>
> Deep link to the Chicago Trib's slideshow:
> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-110613-b17-plane-crash-pictures,0,3672607.photogallery

The
>
> inboard engine on the Pilot's wing has feathered props. Is that engine
> No. 2? Also, Dan McHale's photos and aerial photos show a wheels-down
> landing and roll out. Too bad it didn't make the airfield ... they
> might've saved it.
>
> /Stetson

Agreed.
That looked like the best possible wheels-down landing he could have
made. It is obvious he didn't want to belly in. It is just sad that he
didn't make the runway where the emergency fire response might have had
a better chance at suppressing the fire.

Does anybody know the distance from the corn field to the runway?
....and without second guessing, whether it would have been worth the
risk to those on board to attempt to make the runway?


>
>
>
> On 6/13/11 16:28 , wallyboy wrote:
>> On 2011-06-13 15:12:14 -0500, wallyboy said:
>>
>>> I'm posting this blind, so someone else may have posted it.
>>>
>>> The Liberty Bell crashed and burned outside Chicago this morning. I't a
>>> total loss.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <image>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chicago Tribune article:
>>>
>>> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chibrknews-crews-responding-to-incident-involving-wwii-bomber-20110613,0,5852034.story


Nobody

hurt.
>>>
>> It looks like the ragged edge of a "good landing."


--
Regards,

Savageduck

D. St-Sanvain
June 14th 11, 06:11 AM
Hello,

Indrek a écrit :
> "wallyboy" > wrote in message
> news:2011061315283753306-chezelwig1@comcastnet...
>> On 2011-06-13 15:12:14 -0500, wallyboy said:
>>> I'm posting this blind, so someone else may have posted it.
>>> The Liberty Bell crashed and burned outside Chicago this morning. I't a
>>> total loss.
Argh...
Hard times for bombers...
I'll post somes pics of Russell's Raiders B-25 :/
Bye,

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John Szalay[_2_]
June 14th 11, 12:10 PM
Savageduck > wrote in
n
> Agreed.
> That looked like the best possible wheels-down landing he could have
> made. It is obvious he didn't want to belly in. It is just sad that he
> didn't make the runway where the emergency fire response might have
> had a better chance at suppressing the fire.
>
> Does anybody know the distance from the corn field to the runway?
> ...and without second guessing, whether it would have been worth the
> risk to those on board to attempt to make the runway?
>


9.3 miles

SWAG:
about roughly 35-40% of the route back would have been over houses
she was still on the almost direct line of flight to Indy.

Savageduck[_3_]
June 14th 11, 04:10 PM
On 2011-06-14 04:10:03 -0700, John Szalay <john.szalayATatt.net> said:

> Savageduck > wrote in
> n
>> Agreed.
>> That looked like the best possible wheels-down landing he could have
>> made. It is obvious he didn't want to belly in. It is just sad that he
>> didn't make the runway where the emergency fire response might have
>> had a better chance at suppressing the fire.
>>
>> Does anybody know the distance from the corn field to the runway?
>> ...and without second guessing, whether it would have been worth the
>> risk to those on board to attempt to make the runway?
>>
>
>
> 9.3 miles
>
> SWAG:
> about roughly 35-40% of the route back would have been over houses
> she was still on the almost direct line of flight to Indy.
>
> <image>

Thanks for the info.

Well he still made a good landing, but lost the gamble on controlling the fire.
....and we still have "Aluminum Overcast" & from what I understand 13
others still flying.
< http://www.b17.org/ >

--
Regards,

Savageduck

FLG
June 14th 11, 05:53 PM
Bob (not my real pseudonym) wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 15:12:14 -0500, wallyboy
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm posting this blind, so someone else may have posted it.
>>
>> The Liberty Bell crashed and burned outside Chicago this morning.
>> I't a total loss.
>
> Thankfully, everybody aboard is okay.
>
> 'Liberty Belle' was just in Seattle a few weeks ago.
>
> RIP, Pretty Lady...
>
> Bob ^,,^

On "Seattle time" sunday :
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2015308240_apusbombercrash.html

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