PDA

View Full Version : UK2 AL504 Consolidated LiberatorMkI 1944 Northolt JDOughtonColl.jpg


Joseph Testagrose
July 29th 11, 12:16 AM

Orval Fairbairn
July 29th 11, 01:59 AM
In article >,
Joseph Testagrose > wrote:

> begin 644 UK2 AL504 Consolidated LiberatorMkI 1944 Northolt JDOughtonColl.jpg
> [Image]
>
> end

"Commando" was Winston Churchill's personal airplane.

Milton Lewis
July 29th 11, 12:52 PM
Orval Fairbairn wrote:
> In article >,
> Joseph Testagrose > wrote:
>
>> begin 644 UK2 AL504 Consolidated LiberatorMkI 1944 Northolt JDOughtonColl.jpg
>> [Image]
>>
>> end
>
> "Commando" was Winston Churchill's personal airplane.
Didn't the Brits make any distinction between the Liberator and the
Privateer? This is clearly a Privateer.

Andrew Chaplin
July 29th 11, 03:13 PM
Milton Lewis > wrote in
m:

> Orval Fairbairn wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Joseph Testagrose > wrote:
>>
>>> begin 644 UK2 AL504 Consolidated LiberatorMkI 1944 Northolt
>>> JDOughtonColl.jpg [Image]
>>
>> "Commando" was Winston Churchill's personal airplane.
>
> Didn't the Brits make any distinction between the Liberator and the
> Privateer? This is clearly a Privateer.

As built, Commando had dual vertical stabilizers. It went back to the
factory sometime in September '43 and re-emerged in November with the
single vertical stabilizer.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

joet5
July 30th 11, 06:07 PM
On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 06:52:38 -0500, Milton Lewis
> wrote:

>Orval Fairbairn wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Joseph Testagrose > wrote:
>>
>>> begin 644 UK2 AL504 Consolidated LiberatorMkI 1944 Northolt JDOughtonColl.jpg
>>> [Image]
>>>
>>> end
>>
>> "Commando" was Winston Churchill's personal airplane.
>Didn't the Brits make any distinction between the Liberator and the
>Privateer? This is clearly a Privateer.
No.

Orval Fairbairn
July 31st 11, 01:39 AM
In article >,
joet5 <joet5atoptonline.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 06:52:38 -0500, Milton Lewis
> > wrote:
>
> >Orval Fairbairn wrote:
> >> In article >,
> >> Joseph Testagrose > wrote:
> >>
> >>> begin 644 UK2 AL504 Consolidated LiberatorMkI 1944 Northolt
> >>> JDOughtonColl.jpg
> >>> [Image]
> >>>
> >>> end
> >>
> >> "Commando" was Winston Churchill's personal airplane.
> >Didn't the Brits make any distinction between the Liberator and the
> >Privateer? This is clearly a Privateer.
> No.

According to "American Combat Planes," The single tail was approved in
April 1944 for all future Liberators, but of 5176 single-tailed B-24Ns
ordered from Ford, only November 1944's XB-24N and seven YB-24s of
May-June 1945 were completed. These ships had R-1830-75 Wasps and new
nose and tail turrets."

Re the PB4Y-2 single-tail Privateer:

"Delivery began in March 1944 and 710 more Privateers were ordered on
October 19. Cancellations, however, ended PB4Y-2 production in October
1945 after 740 were completed."

Wsa "Commando" a Privateer or a Liberator or a modified hybrid? I am
sure that AAF and Navy versions had some equipment differences, as did
the British versions.

Google