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lance smith
August 5th 03, 01:05 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/08/04/plane.crash/index.html

The pilots died : (

-lance smith

Martin
August 5th 03, 08:18 AM
I live in CT, weather was scattered but bad at the time (low clouds,
scat tstorms). Dunno how it could have happened though, a jet as well
equipt (and probably well piloted) as a LearJet should be, seems odd,
coming down over a half mile short of the runway. Sadly awaiting the
word on what went wrong.

Jack McAdams
August 5th 03, 02:52 PM
"Marco L" <beach321(at)ix.netcom.com> wrote in message >...
> The Lear was part of a charter arm of a local flight school--AirEast--at
> FRG, my homebase. Really nice owners. They haven't released the names of
> the pilots as of this post. Bless their souls...
>
> Marco
>
>

WCBS this morning reports that the pilot was age 58 and the co-pilot
age 33, both residents of Long Island. Sorry, I do not recall the
names, although they were announced in the broadcast.

Jack



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JerryK
August 5th 03, 08:47 PM
Another shot from the hip is the duck under syndrome. The pilot is flying
along the GS well and picks up ground contact coming through the murk.
Pilot goes a little lower to pick up the runway and goes below glide slope
and into the ground. All while flying straight down the localizer.

"Rosspilot" > wrote in message
...
> >
> >I live in CT, weather was scattered but bad at the time (low clouds,
> >scat tstorms). Dunno how it could have happened though, a jet as well
> >equipt (and probably well piloted) as a LearJet should be, seems odd,
> >coming down over a half mile short of the runway.
>
> Shooting from the hip, and with no facts to base this on, I SPECULATE
low-level
> windshear . . . microburst. Winds were definitely strong enough to push
the
> plane down.
> www.Rosspilot.com
>
>

David Reinhart
August 6th 03, 12:40 AM
The news report I heard was that he was circling and coming *back* to the
airport. It sounds like he was shooting the VOR approach instead of the
ILS. We had a very similar accident up here in MA recently where a King
Air pilot saw the runway too late and dumped it in while trying to
circle. Both airspeed indicators were needle-slapped at below 70 knots.

Dave Reinhart


Martin wrote:

> I live in CT, weather was scattered but bad at the time (low clouds,
> scat tstorms). Dunno how it could have happened though, a jet as well
> equipt (and probably well piloted) as a LearJet should be, seems odd,
> coming down over a half mile short of the runway. Sadly awaiting the
> word on what went wrong.

Larry Fransson
August 8th 03, 11:07 PM
In article >,
(HANKMAN878) wrote:

> I believe the Lear was the C-21

You believe correctly. They're still in use.

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