Portable oxygen systems

[C J Campbell]

I am thinking of getting a portable oxygen system to use on the 206 and
other aircraft that I fly. These hot summer days with high density altitudes
in Idaho and Wyoming leave me gasping. Maybe it is just age.

--
Christopher J. Campbell
World Famous Flight Instructor
Port Orchard, WA


For the Homeland!

[Ron Natalie]

"C J Campbell" > wrote in message ...
> I am thinking of getting a portable oxygen system to use on the 206 and
> other aircraft that I fly. These hot summer days with high density altitudes
> in Idaho and Wyoming leave me gasping. Maybe it is just age.
>
Pressure altitude is all that matters by the way. It's the partial pressure
of O2 that controls the diffusion.

Nelson seems to make nicely portable systems. My mechanic had me
pick her up a 6.3 cu ft. system for her RV-4. It's really light. Of course
a tank that small only lasts a few hours on a charge... They have larger
ones.

[Stefan]

Ron Natalie wrote:
>
> a tank that small only lasts a few hours on a charge... They have larger
> ones.

The currently most advanced system is EDS-D1 by Mountain High
http://www.mhoxygen.com/

It's very popular among glider pilots because its sophisticated
pulse-by-demand-functionality reduces the oxygen flow considerably. Just
put the cannula on and forget it. Not cheap, but worth the price.

Stefan

[Robert M. Gary]

I enjoy my AirOx system. I would avoid SkyOx, its an ok cheapy system
but not good for a turbo pilot who needs a full system.



"C J Campbell" > wrote in message >...
> I am thinking of getting a portable oxygen system to use on the 206 and
> other aircraft that I fly. These hot summer days with high density altitudes
> in Idaho and Wyoming leave me gasping. Maybe it is just age.

[jeff]

I have a Sky-OX 15 CU ft. system with 4 cannuals, got it from aircraft spruce
for around 500$+
None of the oxygen systems are very cheap.


C J Campbell wrote:

> I am thinking of getting a portable oxygen system to use on the 206 and
> other aircraft that I fly. These hot summer days with high density altitudes
> in Idaho and Wyoming leave me gasping. Maybe it is just age.
>
> --
> Christopher J. Campbell
> World Famous Flight Instructor
> Port Orchard, WA
>
> For the Homeland!

[Aloft]

Check out www.aeromedix.com -- they've put together a few different portable
oxygen systems that don't seem to have the 100% aviation markup to them.
He's also got an interesting article on there about inflight oxygen use.


"C J Campbell" > wrote in message
...
> I am thinking of getting a portable oxygen system to use on the 206 and
> other aircraft that I fly. These hot summer days with high density
altitudes
> in Idaho and Wyoming leave me gasping. Maybe it is just age.

[Martin Hellman]

Stefan <"stefan"@mus. INVALID .ch> wrote in message >...
> The currently most advanced system is EDS-D1 by Mountain High
> http://www.mhoxygen.com/
>
> It's very popular among glider pilots because its sophisticated
> pulse-by-demand-functionality reduces the oxygen flow considerably. Just
> put the cannula on and forget it. Not cheap, but worth the price.

I second Stefan's endorsement of the Mountain High system. I've been
using one for 8 years in two different motor gliders and really like
it. The self-adjusting O2 flow and the longer bottle time (probably at
least twice an oxymizer) are great.

One other point if you buy it: I debated buying the 12v power kit so I
wouldn't have to replace 9v batteries all the time. Well, "all the
time" is less than once a year. And that's usually just to play safe,
not because the battery wore out! So I'm glad I didn't waste the money
and extra complexity for the 12v power kit. And I use the system much
more heavily than the typical GA use since, to gliders, altitude is
like fuel to a power plane.

Martin

[Neal]

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 20:00:52 +0200, Stefan <"stefan"@mus. INVALID .ch>
wrote:

>
>The currently most advanced system is EDS-D1 by Mountain High
>http://www.mhoxygen.com/
>

Good Lord!

Take a look at this photo of a pair of Cubs on their website.

http://www.mhoxygen.com/index.phtml?nav_id=20&prd_group_id=4

Kids, don't try that at home!

[Robert M. Gary]

>
> Good Lord!
>
> Take a look at this photo of a pair of Cubs on their website.
>
> http://www.mhoxygen.com/index.phtml?nav_id=20&prd_group_id=4

Thats not an unusual bush pilot technique for short field landing. You
skim the water on the mains (the water is as hard as a rock when your
moving) and time your roll out so you hit the beach at the right time.
You can land on a beach with less than 100 feet of runway doing this.

[Mike Weller]

On 12 Aug 2003 08:44:04 -0700, (Robert M. Gary)
wrote:


>Thats not an unusual bush pilot technique for short field landing. You
>skim the water on the mains (the water is as hard as a rock when your
>moving) and time your roll out so you hit the beach at the right time.
>You can land on a beach with less than 100 feet of runway doing this.

Great! But how do you take off again?

Mike Weller

[Stefan]

Mike Weller wrote:
>
> Great! But how do you take off again?

Maybe like this?

http://www.eddh.de/x-files/dl_files/vstol1.mpg
http://www.eddh.de/x-files/dl_files/vstol2.mpg
http://www.eddh.de/x-files/dl_files/vstol3.mpg

Stefan

[Snowbird]

"C J Campbell" > wrote in message >...
> I am thinking of getting a portable oxygen system to use on the 206 and
> other aircraft that I fly. These hot summer days with high density altitudes
> in Idaho and Wyoming leave me gasping. Maybe it is just age.

We have a system from Mountain High. They advertise less to GA,
but seem well known in glider and ultralight communities. They have
all kinds of systems from pulse-demand to super-lightweight

Anyway we have their standard system (aluminum tank, oxymiser cannulas,
masks included, very nice case). 4 yrs, going strong.

http://www.mountainhighoxygen.com

Their salesman Ric is a sometime poster on these groups, esp. .homebuilt.
He is building a beautiful Berkut. He used to give an "RAH scum" discount,
you might ask about the plane, and the discount, if you call.

Cheers,
Sydney (no connection except as satisfied customer and Berkut admirer)

[Big John]

Mike

You could wait until winter and the water freezes.

or

You could also wait until tide goes out and use the wet sand beach
(has been done many times).

Just two options.

Big John



On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 02:38:53 GMT, Mike Weller >
wrote:

>On 12 Aug 2003 08:44:04 -0700, (Robert M. Gary)
>wrote:
>
>
>>Thats not an unusual bush pilot technique for short field landing. You
>>skim the water on the mains (the water is as hard as a rock when your
>>moving) and time your roll out so you hit the beach at the right time.
>>You can land on a beach with less than 100 feet of runway doing this.
>
>Great! But how do you take off again?
>
>Mike Weller
>

[Robert M. Gary]

Mike Weller > wrote in message >...
> On 12 Aug 2003 08:44:04 -0700, (Robert M. Gary)
> wrote:
>
>
> >Thats not an unusual bush pilot technique for short field landing. You
> >skim the water on the mains (the water is as hard as a rock when your
> >moving) and time your roll out so you hit the beach at the right time.
> >You can land on a beach with less than 100 feet of runway doing this.
>
> Great! But how do you take off again?


It makes you wonder. However, many of the super bush planes actually
get off the ground in much less space than they land. You can build up
speed while flying over the water in ground effect.
-Robert (haven't tried it, just read about it)