Airport names

[Wally Samuelson]

Hi everyone-The thread on airport identifiers is getting a little long, so I
thought I'd start a new one.There doesn't seem to be any standards for
naming airports, except for what the local pols dream up.

JFK is obvious of course, and O'Hare is named after a Medal of Honor winner.
(Posthumously I believe) But what about the current trend for naming
airports after still living politicians. Ronald Reagan Naational,
for Washington National. Mineta International for San Jose Municipal. Yes
I know they called in International, but it always will be Muni to me.

Then there was the attempt to name San Francisco International (SFO) Joe
DiMaggio Field. Joltin Joe played his big league career with the NY Yankees.
He did marry Marilyn Monroe in the City. I could vote for calling it MM
International with a big picture of her over the entrance.

The airport itself is in San Mateo county, One of the two Bart trains to it
is marked "Millbrae." It wouldn't surprise me if some one proposes it be
called Williie Brown International as soon as he leaves office. (Da Mayor
now)

There must be a lot of other similar silliness out there.

Wally
First solo 1936 age 14

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Wally Samuelson" > wrote in message
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> Then there was the attempt to name San Francisco International (SFO) Joe
> DiMaggio Field. Joltin Joe played his big league career with the NY
Yankees.
> He did marry Marilyn Monroe in the City. I could vote for calling it MM
> International with a big picture of her over the entrance.
>

Joe DiMaggio was a local boy. He was born in Martinez, California, his
family moved to San Francisco shortly after his birth.

I prefer airfields to be named for people with an aviation connection.

[Wally Samuelson]

Yes I know. They finally named a playground after him.
"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message
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> "Wally Samuelson" > wrote in message
> news:h1y_a.95173$Oz4.22238@rwcrnsc54...
> >
> > Then there was the attempt to name San Francisco International (SFO) Joe
> > DiMaggio Field. Joltin Joe played his big league career with the NY
> Yankees.
> > He did marry Marilyn Monroe in the City. I could vote for calling it MM
> > International with a big picture of her over the entrance.
> >
>
> Joe DiMaggio was a local boy. He was born in Martinez, California, his
> family moved to San Francisco shortly after his birth.
>
> I prefer airfields to be named for people with an aviation connection.
>
>

[Larry Dighera]

On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:36:17 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
> wrote in Message-Id:
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>I prefer airfields to be named for people with an aviation connection.

I absolutely agree. Airfield names are a fitting epitaph for those
individuals who have made a significant contribution to aviation
through technical innovation and/or heroic deed. (What was the
reasoning behind Reagan Intl.? Somnambulant Intl. may have been just
as appropriate.)

I cringe every time I hear "John Wayne tower ..." broadcast. I prefer
to refer to an airport on the radio by its city name, or anything
other than the name of an actor. "Santa Ana tower" was used in the
'70s and still works fine for me. "Orange County tower" works too.

In the end, I suppose the responsibility for naming airports falls on
the shoulders of its owner.


--

Irrational beliefs ultimately lead to irrational acts.
-- Larry Dighera,

[gatt]

"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
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> Sorry, every payday I'm too busy thanking my employer for not outsourcing
> to India.

Payday?

(Outsourced to dev-null. They decided fighting spam, internet fraud and
child porn was not a worthwhile endeavor.)

-c

[Dennis O'Connor]

Yes... And how did Cape Canaveral get renamed after a scum bag politician?

Denny

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
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> On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:36:17 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
> > wrote in Message-Id:
> .net>:
>
> >I prefer airfields to be named for people with an aviation connection.
>
> I absolutely agree. Airfield names are a fitting epitaph for those
> individuals who have made a significant contribution to aviation
> through technical innovation and/or heroic deed. (What was the
> reasoning behind Reagan Intl.? Somnambulant Intl. may have been just
> as appropriate.)
>
> I cringe every time I hear "John Wayne tower ..." broadcast. I prefer
> to refer to an airport on the radio by its city name, or anything
> other than the name of an actor. "Santa Ana tower" was used in the
> '70s and still works fine for me. "Orange County tower" works too.
>
> In the end, I suppose the responsibility for naming airports falls on
> the shoulders of its owner.
>
>
> --
>
> Irrational beliefs ultimately lead to irrational acts.
> -- Larry Dighera,

[Ron Natalie]

"Dennis O'Connor" > wrote in message ...
> Yes... And how did Cape Canaveral get renamed after a scum bag politician?
>
> Denny
Same way National Airport got named after. At least the Cape was a federal
facility. It was the republican congresses incessent medling in the local
agencies operation of the airport that caused the DCA debacle.

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
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> At least the Cape was a federal facility.
>

Cape Canaveral Missile Test Annex was a federal facility, Cape Canaveral was
not.

[Ron Natalie]

"Steven P. McNicoll" > wrote in message ink.net...
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> "Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
> m...
> >
> > At least the Cape was a federal facility.
> >
>
> Cape Canaveral Missile Test Annex was a federal facility, Cape Canaveral was
> not.
>

And it is Canaveral again today.

At least they waited until Kennedy was dead before errecting memorials to him.

[Jay Masino]

Steven P. McNicoll > wrote:
> "Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
> m...
>>
>> And it is Canaveral again today.
>>
> The point you're missing is that Cape Canaveral was NOT a federal facility.

I don't even understand this statement, unless you're refering to the City
of Cape Canaveral.

The original Cape Canaveral, where early launches took place, was split.
The NASA side was renamed Kennedy Space Center. The Air Force side
retained the Cape Canaveral name (Cape Canaveral Air Force Station... part
of Patrick AFB).

-- Jay

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[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Jay Masino" > wrote in message
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>
> I don't even understand this statement, unless you're refering to the City
> of Cape Canaveral.
>

I'm referring to Cape Canaveral, the land mass jutting out into the Atlantic
Ocean that was named Cabo de Canaveral (Cape of the Cane) by the Spanish
nearly 500 years ago.


>
> The original Cape Canaveral, where early launches took place, was split.
> The NASA side was renamed Kennedy Space Center. The Air Force side
> retained the Cape Canaveral name (Cape Canaveral Air Force Station... part
> of Patrick AFB).
>

Not long after President Kennedy was assassinated President Johnson decreed
that the NASA facilities on Cape Canaveral and Merritt Island would be
renamed the John F. Kennedy Space Center. But the previous name did not
contain "Cape Canaveral", it was just called the NASA Launch Operations
Center. Johnson also decreed that "Cape Canaveral", the geographic place
name, would be changed to "Cape Kennedy". A couple of months later the USAF
announced that Cape Canaveral Missile Test Annex would be renamed Cape
Kennedy Air Force Station.

Nobody objected to renaming the NASA and USAF facilities for Kennedy, they
were federal property and the federal government could call them anything
they wanted. There was considerable objection to the changing of the
geographic place name, however. It took some ten years, but in the early
seventies the geographic place name again became Cape Canaveral, and the
USAF facility was renamed Cape Canaveral Air Force Station.

[Larry Dighera]

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 02:36:26 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
> wrote in Message-Id:
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>Not long after President Kennedy was assassinated President Johnson decreed
>that the NASA facilities on Cape Canaveral and Merritt Island would be
>renamed the John F. Kennedy Space Center.


If I recall correctly, JFK had something to do with the advancement of
space technology.
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Irrational beliefs ultimately lead to irrational acts.
-- Larry Dighera,

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Larry Dighera" > wrote in message
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>
> If I recall correctly, JFK had something to do with the advancement of
> space technology.
>

He did. I didn't say renaming the NASA facility for JFK was unjustified, I
think it was the proper thing to do. But it was wrong to change "Cape
Canaveral" to "Cape Kennedy".

[Jay Masino]

Steven P. McNicoll > wrote:
> Not long after President Kennedy was assassinated President Johnson decreed
> that the NASA facilities on Cape Canaveral and Merritt Island would be
> renamed the John F. Kennedy Space Center. But the previous name did not
> contain "Cape Canaveral", it was just called the NASA Launch Operations
> Center. Johnson also decreed that "Cape Canaveral", the geographic place
> name, would be changed to "Cape Kennedy". A couple of months later the USAF
> announced that Cape Canaveral Missile Test Annex would be renamed Cape
> Kennedy Air Force Station.

Hmmm. Cool trivia!

-- Jay

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[Kevin McCue]

Saw a good show on the program on iirc History chnl not long ago. They
showed film of the actual tests of the nuclear motors in Nevada. Kept having
catastrophic failures in the engine casings. Guess its a good thing they
gave it up along with the nuke powered bomber.

--
Kevin McCue
KRYN
'47 Luscombe 8E
Rans S-17 (for sale)




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[Craig Davidson]

Jay Masino wrote in message >...
>Steven P. McNicoll > wrote:
>> Not long after President Kennedy was assassinated President Johnson
decreed
>> that the NASA facilities on Cape Canaveral and Merritt Island would be
>> renamed the John F. Kennedy Space Center. But the previous name did not
>> contain "Cape Canaveral", it was just called the NASA Launch Operations
>> Center. Johnson also decreed that "Cape Canaveral", the geographic place
>> name, would be changed to "Cape Kennedy". A couple of months later the
USAF
>> announced that Cape Canaveral Missile Test Annex would be renamed Cape
>> Kennedy Air Force Station.
>
>Hmmm. Cool trivia!
>
>-- Jay

there is a great map of the place at:

http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=17&n=3163194&e=537464&s=200&size=l

It even shows the launch pads

Shuttle launch pads are 39 A and B