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Wily Wapiti
August 28th 03, 07:33 PM
One of the goals of getting my pilot license was to be able to go
places with my wife and kids. Frankly, I'm tired of driving, I love
to fly, and it makes getting places faster and a lot more fun. My
wife still had some reservations about flying with me, however. I
don't blame her; sometimes I'm scared to fly with me too! Despite
this, I talked her into a trip this weekend from Laramie, WY (LAR) up
to Deadwood, SD--her first crosscountry with me, and her first time in
a small plane in about ten years.
We launched Saturday morning around 8:15 for the two hour flight.
It is normally a 4 1/2 or 5 hour drive for us, so the time savings
right off the bat is a great selling point. The flight up was
severe-clear, and smooth, except for some light chop around Laramie
Peak and just over the Black Hills. Visibility was great, and we
could see Devil's Tower about 50 nm to the North West as we approached
Spearfish (SPF).
The descent into SPF was fun. The airport sits in a hole,
surrounded by the Black Hills. Field elevation is 3931, and you have
to clear a ridge above 8000 feet 15 miles South of the airport. I
chopped power as soon as I crossed the ridge, descended at 1000 fpm
and barely made it down to pattern altitude in time. There are also
several hills located strategically around the airport, so it was a
bit intimidating.
Winds at SPF were interesting. They were blowing 210 at 15,
gusting to 20, and the only paved runway is 12-30. uh-oh--90 degree
direct crosswind at the maximum demonstrated crosswind component. I
told my wife that we would make one low pass at the paved runway, then
probably use the turf 21-03 (2023x150). I made the pass at the paved
runway and needed full right rudder and a lot of left aileron to
maintain the center line, so I quickly decided to use the turf,
despite club policy to the contrary. I felt it was a lot safer at the
time to use the turf directly into the wind, rather than risk sliding
it in sideways on the pavement.
The hill off the approach end of 21 looks huge when you are on
downwind, but I put it out of my mind and flew the pattern. And is
that a runway or a hay meadow down there!? My instructor and I had
gone into a dirt strip during training so I wasn't too concerned about
my soft field technique, but the short field looked tiny. only 2000
feet, so short and soft.
I nailed the pattern and my speeds, and landed beautifully. A
nice, soft and short landing, and stopped in probably the first 800
feet of the strip. I now wished I had landed a little long; it took
forever to taxi to the end of the turf and up onto the pavement to
taxi down the runway to the FBO. Take a look at the airport diagram
at http://www.aopa.org/members/airports/kneeboard_pdfs/SPF.pdf.
Some friends picked us up at the gate, and it was off to Deadwood
for a weekend of fun!
We got a late start on Sunday morning, about 12:30, and the
forecast called for the chance of thunderstorms later on that
afternoon. The sattelite showed up clear along our route, however, so
I decided to go ahead and go.
I had told my wife that, despite being a great airplane, the 172
we were in was too small and slow as a family airplane; that a 182
would be a much better plane for us. Well, she picked up a Controller
magazine at SPF, and spent the first part of the trip home going
through it and circling all the 182s! WooHoo! Maybe it won't take as
long as I thought to turn her on to airplanes!
It was nice and smooth, albiet a little hot, but when I got
further South, I noticed a cell building up around Laramie Peak, and
it looked rather dark to the South towards Cheyenne as well. I called
Casper radio, and asked for the weather along our route, and it was as
I feared. A line of cells building along the Laramie range starting
at Laramie peak and going South past Cheyenne, all the way into
Colorado. I decided to divert to Douglas (DGW), 20 miles to the
North, and wait it out, check the weather at home in Laramie, and hope
we could make it home that day.
I checked the weather, and sure enough, the only cells in the
area were directly over where I needed to be. Oh well. We borrowed
the courtesy car and drove into Douglas for some mexican food.
We got back to the airport, and I checked the weather again,
called Casper FSS, and also called my Dad back in Laramie to get a
good picture of what was going on. There were still cells along our
intended route, but it looked like if I went West and North of Laramie
Peak before turning South towards Laramie, I could get in behind the
thunderstorms. In addition, Dad said it didn't look like there was
anything building around Laramie anymore, and FSS said that the
convective activity looked like it was subsiding. Casper was still
clear so I had a good alternate if I needed it, so I went ahead and
launched.
The flight was mostly uneventful, aside from some amazing climb
rates when we crossed the Laramie range. I got in an updraft that was
taking us up at 1000 fpm at normal cruise speed. I just went with it,
and decided that 12500 would give me a better safety margin than 10500
anyway :), in case we found a downdraft to match. My wife slept the
entire leg, so I guess she is a little more comfortable flying now!
Laramie was calm, which is almost unheard of, and I made a great
landing to bring us home safely.
Despite it being only my second crosscountry since getting my
license, I was fairly proud of my flying, and of my decision making.
At no time did I let get-there or get-home-itis creep into the
process, and I felt all legs were maded with plenty of safety margin.
Best of all, I didn't scare my wife and she didn't get sick, so maybe
this kind of thing will become common. WooHoo!


WW

bob zee
August 28th 03, 08:41 PM
"Wily Wapiti" > wrote in message
om...
> One of the goals of getting my pilot license was to be able to go
> places with my wife and kids. Frankly, I'm tired of driving, I love
> to fly, and it makes getting places faster and a lot more fun. My
> wife still had some reservations about flying with me, however. I
> don't blame her; sometimes I'm scared to fly with me too!
> WW

awesome story. thanks for sharing.

my wife is currently taking flying lessons. my flight lessons won't begin
until after *she* thinks i am ready!

--
bob z.

"people with less brain power than you are doing more difficult things
everyday"©

Maule Driver
August 28th 03, 10:38 PM
Nice flight and nice write-up.

In addition to all the 'get home-itis' stuff, I find the toughest thing to
do on weekend jaunts is getting an early start home. By early I mean taking
off earlier than noon -- or earlier than 10:00. Practically anywhere you
fly in the summer, early morning is the best time to start the trip home. I
know it, my wife knows it, our friends know it. But we always find a reason
to hoot with the owls Saturday night and avoid soaring with the eagles at
daybreak.

Making your own schedule is part of the magic but.... Mondays keep looking
better and better to this leisure time pilot.

My mate pushed me up from a Supercub to a Maule. Good luck with the 182!

"Wily Wapiti" > wrote in message
om...
> One of the goals of getting my pilot license was to be able to go
> places with my wife and kids. Frankly, I'm tired of driving, I love
> to fly, and it makes getting places faster and a lot more fun. My
> wife still had some reservations about flying with me, however. I
> don't blame her; sometimes I'm scared to fly with me too! Despite
> this, I talked her into a trip this weekend from Laramie, WY (LAR) up
> to Deadwood, SD--her first crosscountry with me, and her first time in
> a small plane in about ten years.
> We launched Saturday morning around 8:15 for the two hour flight.
> It is normally a 4 1/2 or 5 hour drive for us, so the time savings
> right off the bat is a great selling point. The flight up was
> severe-clear, and smooth, except for some light chop around Laramie
> Peak and just over the Black Hills. Visibility was great, and we
> could see Devil's Tower about 50 nm to the North West as we approached
> Spearfish (SPF).
> The descent into SPF was fun. The airport sits in a hole,
> surrounded by the Black Hills. Field elevation is 3931, and you have
> to clear a ridge above 8000 feet 15 miles South of the airport. I
> chopped power as soon as I crossed the ridge, descended at 1000 fpm
> and barely made it down to pattern altitude in time. There are also
> several hills located strategically around the airport, so it was a
> bit intimidating.
> Winds at SPF were interesting. They were blowing 210 at 15,
> gusting to 20, and the only paved runway is 12-30. uh-oh--90 degree
> direct crosswind at the maximum demonstrated crosswind component. I
> told my wife that we would make one low pass at the paved runway, then
> probably use the turf 21-03 (2023x150). I made the pass at the paved
> runway and needed full right rudder and a lot of left aileron to
> maintain the center line, so I quickly decided to use the turf,
> despite club policy to the contrary. I felt it was a lot safer at the
> time to use the turf directly into the wind, rather than risk sliding
> it in sideways on the pavement.
> The hill off the approach end of 21 looks huge when you are on
> downwind, but I put it out of my mind and flew the pattern. And is
> that a runway or a hay meadow down there!? My instructor and I had
> gone into a dirt strip during training so I wasn't too concerned about
> my soft field technique, but the short field looked tiny. only 2000
> feet, so short and soft.
> I nailed the pattern and my speeds, and landed beautifully. A
> nice, soft and short landing, and stopped in probably the first 800
> feet of the strip. I now wished I had landed a little long; it took
> forever to taxi to the end of the turf and up onto the pavement to
> taxi down the runway to the FBO. Take a look at the airport diagram
> at http://www.aopa.org/members/airports/kneeboard_pdfs/SPF.pdf.
> Some friends picked us up at the gate, and it was off to Deadwood
> for a weekend of fun!
> We got a late start on Sunday morning, about 12:30, and the
> forecast called for the chance of thunderstorms later on that
> afternoon. The sattelite showed up clear along our route, however, so
> I decided to go ahead and go.
> I had told my wife that, despite being a great airplane, the 172
> we were in was too small and slow as a family airplane; that a 182
> would be a much better plane for us. Well, she picked up a Controller
> magazine at SPF, and spent the first part of the trip home going
> through it and circling all the 182s! WooHoo! Maybe it won't take as
> long as I thought to turn her on to airplanes!
> It was nice and smooth, albiet a little hot, but when I got
> further South, I noticed a cell building up around Laramie Peak, and
> it looked rather dark to the South towards Cheyenne as well. I called
> Casper radio, and asked for the weather along our route, and it was as
> I feared. A line of cells building along the Laramie range starting
> at Laramie peak and going South past Cheyenne, all the way into
> Colorado. I decided to divert to Douglas (DGW), 20 miles to the
> North, and wait it out, check the weather at home in Laramie, and hope
> we could make it home that day.
> I checked the weather, and sure enough, the only cells in the
> area were directly over where I needed to be. Oh well. We borrowed
> the courtesy car and drove into Douglas for some mexican food.
> We got back to the airport, and I checked the weather again,
> called Casper FSS, and also called my Dad back in Laramie to get a
> good picture of what was going on. There were still cells along our
> intended route, but it looked like if I went West and North of Laramie
> Peak before turning South towards Laramie, I could get in behind the
> thunderstorms. In addition, Dad said it didn't look like there was
> anything building around Laramie anymore, and FSS said that the
> convective activity looked like it was subsiding. Casper was still
> clear so I had a good alternate if I needed it, so I went ahead and
> launched.
> The flight was mostly uneventful, aside from some amazing climb
> rates when we crossed the Laramie range. I got in an updraft that was
> taking us up at 1000 fpm at normal cruise speed. I just went with it,
> and decided that 12500 would give me a better safety margin than 10500
> anyway :), in case we found a downdraft to match. My wife slept the
> entire leg, so I guess she is a little more comfortable flying now!
> Laramie was calm, which is almost unheard of, and I made a great
> landing to bring us home safely.
> Despite it being only my second crosscountry since getting my
> license, I was fairly proud of my flying, and of my decision making.
> At no time did I let get-there or get-home-itis creep into the
> process, and I felt all legs were maded with plenty of safety margin.
> Best of all, I didn't scare my wife and she didn't get sick, so maybe
> this kind of thing will become common. WooHoo!
>
>
> WW

Yossarian
August 29th 03, 01:27 AM
careful with that 12.5 and no oxygen! 30 minute rule and all.

"Wily Wapiti" > wrote in message
om...
> The flight was mostly uneventful, aside from some amazing climb
> rates when we crossed the Laramie range. I got in an updraft that was
> taking us up at 1000 fpm at normal cruise speed. I just went with it,
> and decided that 12500 would give me a better safety margin than 10500
> anyway :), in case we found a downdraft to match. My wife slept the
> entire leg, so I guess she is a little more comfortable flying now!

David Johnson
August 29th 03, 03:17 AM
I'll second the advice to fly early in the summer. And I'll add "Fly High"
as well. Get up above 10,000 and it will be cooler, smoother, and usually
better visibility also. Not that visibility is often a problem in Wyoming.
But if you venture very far to the East you'll see what I mean.

I have flown myself and family or friends all the way across the country
and back a number of times - without scaring them or getting too worried
myself. I have got stuck a few times - notably in Wyoming. The weather
probably doesn't turn nasty any sooner or more often in WY, but the places
to go as an alternative are few and far between. No doubt that is a factor
in my go/no go decision.

I have flown the same Cessna 182 for the past 25 years. It is entirely
adequate for my needs - and does very well at high density altitudes as
are usual for Wyoming in the summer. I'd recommend 182s to anyone without
hesitation.

Good luck!

Wily Wapiti
August 29th 03, 07:01 AM
We just popped up there for a few minutes while we crossed a ridge,
then started to decend into Laramie. I also live at 7300 feet, so I'm
a little bit better equiped than most to handle a little less O2. My
doctor always comments on my high red-cell count when I go for my
annual physical, and he attributes it to running daily at this
altitude.

WW

Wily Wapiti
August 29th 03, 07:03 AM
> I have flown the same Cessna 182 for the past 25 years. It is entirely
> adequate for my needs - and does very well at high density altitudes as
> are usual for Wyoming in the summer. I'd recommend 182s to anyone without
> hesitation.
>
> Good luck!

My dad spent his career flying up here in Wyoming, and for all around
utility, he almost won't even let me consider anything but the
venerable 182. I just wish they weren't quite so popular, so I could
actually afford one!

WW

Jay Honeck
August 29th 03, 02:17 PM
> sounds great. Good decision about the grass - there's nothing to fear
> about grass (it's a US thing, since most fields are paved in the US).

Nah, it's a training thing.

I soloed on grass, and love to land on it. But I know many pilots who view
grass runways as "outlaw" strips, just waiting to destroy their airplanes.

Once you've landed on a nicely manicured grass strip, you'll never enjoy
pavement again! :)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

David Mack
August 30th 03, 05:57 PM
(Rick Durden) wrote in message >...
> Suggestion for when you take relatively new pax: restrict your
> descents to no more than 500 fpm or you can really cause severe pain
> if their ears don't clear easily. Yes, I know you were trying to get
> down to pattern altitude, but it's okay to make a large scenic circle
> in doing so as you let down gently.

I strongly second Rick's comment on fast descents with new pax (or new
students). It's the worst thing in the world to have a passenger
experiencing that kind of pain and there often isn't anything you can
do about it but wait. Take it easy until you know they can handle the
pressure change. I had this happen with a member of my family and it
wasn't fun.

> Grass runways are good things. Unless you have information that they
> are in bad shape or waterlogged, they are far better than pavement for
> your tires. You did the right thing in landing on the grass when
> there was a strong crosswind on the pavement.

I have found that landing on short grass strips is great for a pilot's
confidence as well. Executing a beautiful short/soft field landing on
a field that is actually short and soft is much more valuable than
continually simulating them on lengthy paved runways.

David

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