GPS & Data-loggers

[JJ Sinclair[_2_]]

Santa brought me a Power Flarm. I powered it up, converted my ICAO
address from 51201552 to HEX A5036A, Got a GPS lock-on after going
outside and everything seems to work as advertised. Of course, I won't
know for sure until I get close to another aircraft that is on a
collision course with me, will I ?
Some questions:
I have been running my trusty old Model 20 and a Garmin 100 driving
the SN-10, with the addition of Power Flarm, I now have 3 GPS's and 3
data-loggers. Question; Can the GPS signal from the Power Flarm be
used to drive the SN-10? If so, what is the wiring? Also, how do I up-
load and down-loan info into the Power Flarm? The manual doesn't get
around to discussing any of the above. My thought was to eliminate the
Garmin 100 and still have 2 Gps's and 3 data-loggers and save a few
mili-amps, which brings me to my last question; How much current does
this puppy draw?
Cheers,
JJ

[Peter von Tresckow]

Checking the PowerFlarm manual, the data jack (RJ45) on the back of the flam
is wired more or less to the IGC Standard. Pin 3 in this case supplies
+3Vdc. Swap pins 5 and 6 on the other end and you should be good to go.

1: +12 V DC nominal (+8 to +27V DC)

2: +12 V DC nominal (+8 to +27V DC)

3: Device supplies + 3V DC

4: GND

5: TX (RS232): only 1 user!

6: RX (RS232): only 1 user!

7: GND

8: GND

Peter

"JJ Sinclair" > wrote in message
...
> Santa brought me a Power Flarm. I powered it up, converted my ICAO
> address from 51201552 to HEX A5036A, Got a GPS lock-on after going
> outside and everything seems to work as advertised. Of course, I won't
> know for sure until I get close to another aircraft that is on a
> collision course with me, will I ?
> Some questions:
> I have been running my trusty old Model 20 and a Garmin 100 driving
> the SN-10, with the addition of Power Flarm, I now have 3 GPS's and 3
> data-loggers. Question; Can the GPS signal from the Power Flarm be
> used to drive the SN-10? If so, what is the wiring? Also, how do I up-
> load and down-loan info into the Power Flarm? The manual doesn't get
> around to discussing any of the above. My thought was to eliminate the
> Garmin 100 and still have 2 Gps's and 3 data-loggers and save a few
> mili-amps, which brings me to my last question; How much current does
> this puppy draw?
> Cheers,
> JJ

[Paul Remde]

Hi JJ,

The PowerFLARM is fine for sending data to your SN10. The PowerFLARM's
connector and wiring is identical to a Volkslogger or other "IGC Standard"
devices with RJ45 connectors. The pin-outs of the connector are in the
PowerFLARM manual - which is available on my FLARM web page.

However, the SN10 probably can't provide enough current to power the
PowerFLARM - especially if rechargeable batteries are installed. So be sure
to power it from a source other than the SN10's GPS power outputs.

I don't think I have a good current draw number for the PowerFLARM, but I
heard the number 200 mA recently.

Of course, the PowerFLARM's logger is not yet working and it has not yet
been sent to the IGC for approval yet. Hopefully that will get done this
spring.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"JJ Sinclair" > wrote in message
...
> Santa brought me a Power Flarm. I powered it up, converted my ICAO
> address from 51201552 to HEX A5036A, Got a GPS lock-on after going
> outside and everything seems to work as advertised. Of course, I won't
> know for sure until I get close to another aircraft that is on a
> collision course with me, will I ?
> Some questions:
> I have been running my trusty old Model 20 and a Garmin 100 driving
> the SN-10, with the addition of Power Flarm, I now have 3 GPS's and 3
> data-loggers. Question; Can the GPS signal from the Power Flarm be
> used to drive the SN-10? If so, what is the wiring? Also, how do I up-
> load and down-loan info into the Power Flarm? The manual doesn't get
> around to discussing any of the above. My thought was to eliminate the
> Garmin 100 and still have 2 Gps's and 3 data-loggers and save a few
> mili-amps, which brings me to my last question; How much current does
> this puppy draw?
> Cheers,
> JJ

[JJ Sinclair[_2_]]

On Jan 13, 11:54*am, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
> Hi JJ,
>
> The PowerFLARM is fine for sending data to your SN10. *The PowerFLARM's
> connector and wiring is identical to a Volkslogger or other "IGC Standard"
> devices with RJ45 connectors. *The pin-outs of the connector are in the
> PowerFLARM manual - which is available on my FLARM web page.
>
> However, the SN10 probably can't provide enough current to power the
> PowerFLARM - especially if rechargeable batteries are installed. *So be sure
> to power it from a source other than the SN10's GPS power outputs.
>
> I don't think I have a good current draw number for the PowerFLARM, but I
> heard the number 200 mA recently.
>
> Of course, the PowerFLARM's logger is not yet working and it has not yet
> been sent to the IGC for approval yet. *Hopefully that will get done this
> spring.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> "JJ Sinclair" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
> > Santa brought me a Power Flarm. I powered it up, converted my ICAO
> > address from 51201552 to HEX A5036A, Got a GPS lock-on after going
> > outside and everything seems to work as advertised. Of course, I won't
> > know for sure until I get close to another aircraft that is on a
> > collision course with me, will I ?
> > Some *questions:
> > I have been running my trusty old Model 20 and a Garmin 100 driving
> > the SN-10, with the addition of Power Flarm, I now have 3 GPS's and 3
> > data-loggers. Question; Can the GPS signal from the Power Flarm be
> > used to drive the SN-10? If so, what is the wiring? Also, how do I up-
> > load and down-loan info into the Power Flarm? The manual doesn't get
> > around to discussing any of the above. My thought was to eliminate the
> > Garmin 100 and still have 2 Gps's and 3 data-loggers and save a few
> > mili-amps, which brings me to my last question; How much current does
> > this puppy draw?
> > Cheers,
> > JJ- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I hooked an ampmeter in the + line and read 160 m/a with the Flarm
tracking 5 satellites and showing a mode S equipped airliner (green
circle at 6 miles and 99 altitude). I was also told it wasn't
necessary to set the ICAO address unless my ship is equipped with a
mode S transponder, so forget that. As I understand it, I should
connect the RJ-45 plug as follow:

#3 Serial input (white-green #3) .........to the SN-10 panel Cable pin
#2
#4 NMEA output (blue) .........to the SN-10 panel cable pin #9

I am powering the Flarm from ships power and only sending GPS data to
the SN-10. I plan to use the Garmin only as a backup which can be
switched on, when necessary, after turning off the power Flarm (if it
looses satellite lock).
Thanks for the help, the Power Flarm looks like a good addition to my
panel
JJ

[JJ Sinclair[_2_]]

On Jan 13, 5:49*pm, JJ Sinclair > wrote:
> On Jan 13, 11:54*am, "Paul Remde" > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi JJ,
>
> > The PowerFLARM is fine for sending data to your SN10. *The PowerFLARM's
> > connector and wiring is identical to a Volkslogger or other "IGC Standard"
> > devices with RJ45 connectors. *The pin-outs of the connector are in the
> > PowerFLARM manual - which is available on my FLARM web page.
>
> > However, the SN10 probably can't provide enough current to power the
> > PowerFLARM - especially if rechargeable batteries are installed. *So be sure
> > to power it from a source other than the SN10's GPS power outputs.
>
> > I don't think I have a good current draw number for the PowerFLARM, but I
> > heard the number 200 mA recently.
>
> > Of course, the PowerFLARM's logger is not yet working and it has not yet
> > been sent to the IGC for approval yet. *Hopefully that will get done this
> > spring.
>
> > Best Regards,
>
> > Paul Remde
> > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> > "JJ Sinclair" > wrote in message
>
> ....
>
> > > Santa brought me a Power Flarm. I powered it up, converted my ICAO
> > > address from 51201552 to HEX A5036A, Got a GPS lock-on after going
> > > outside and everything seems to work as advertised. Of course, I won't
> > > know for sure until I get close to another aircraft that is on a
> > > collision course with me, will I ?
> > > Some *questions:
> > > I have been running my trusty old Model 20 and a Garmin 100 driving
> > > the SN-10, with the addition of Power Flarm, I now have 3 GPS's and 3
> > > data-loggers. Question; Can the GPS signal from the Power Flarm be
> > > used to drive the SN-10? If so, what is the wiring? Also, how do I up-
> > > load and down-loan info into the Power Flarm? The manual doesn't get
> > > around to discussing any of the above. My thought was to eliminate the
> > > Garmin 100 and still have 2 Gps's and 3 data-loggers and save a few
> > > mili-amps, which brings me to my last question; How much current does
> > > this puppy draw?
> > > Cheers,
> > > JJ- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I hooked an ampmeter in the + line and read 160 m/a with the Flarm
> tracking 5 satellites and showing a mode S equipped airliner (green
> circle at 6 miles and 99 altitude). I was also told it wasn't
> necessary to set the ICAO address unless my ship is equipped with a
> mode S transponder, so forget that. As I understand it, I should
> connect the RJ-45 plug as follow:
>
> #3 Serial input (white-green #3) .........to the SN-10 panel Cable pin
> #2
> #4 NMEA output (blue) .........to the SN-10 panel cable pin #9
>
> I am powering the Flarm from ships power and only sending GPS data to
> the SN-10. I plan to use the Garmin only as a backup which can be
> switched on, when necessary, after turning off the power Flarm (if it
> looses satellite lock).
> Thanks for the help, the Power Flarm looks like a good addition to my
> panel
> JJ- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Oops, that pin-out is for the Volkslogger, I believe it should be:
Flarm (RJ45) pin #5 (TX) to SN-10 pin #9
" " pin #6 (RX) to SN-10 pin #2
This should then drive the SN-10 using the Power Flarm GPS
Cheers,
JJ

[Chris Nicholas[_2_]]

JJ, where do you have the aerials – GPS, Flarm, and whatever detects
Mode C?

Any chance of a picture of your set-up?

Regards – Chris
-

[Dave Nadler]

On Friday, January 13, 2012 9:21:07 AM UTC-5, JJ Sinclair wrote:
> Santa brought me a Power Flarm.

Excellent ! Somebody was good last year !

> ... Question; Can the GPS signal from the Power Flarm be
> used to drive the SN-10? If so, what is the wiring?

Yes ! Wiring for PowerFLARM is per IGC standard
(looks like network cable). Please run PF 12v power
separately (and not through SN10).

If you have a Volkslogger with the square connector,
unplug VL and plug in PF; no changes required (except
if you powered VL from SN10 and not independently).

Otherwise, Look at the SN10 manual and wire PF
just like VL.

PF upload and download is via uSD card,
except SN10 can declare tasks into PF.

Hope that helps,
Best Regards, Dave "YO electric"

PS: Hope to see you in Reno.