Friggin' TFRs again :(

[Rosspilot]

I had an important photo shoot to do today in lower Manhattan . . . everything
set to go and perfect weather. I call to make my usual coordination with the
LGA Tower and Tracon and NYPD Aviation . . .

Call FSS and find out there are 3 different TFRs in the NYC area today because
the G.D. VICE President is travelling through.
FSS told me they were JUST getting the information this morning. It was on
AOPA's site, but I don't know when it came up.

It's really a pain in the ass and so ridiculous. And it's keeps me from doing
my work. I guess I shouldn't gripe so much, since I can shoot it next week . .
.. unlike all the GA businesses that are already dried up and gone because of
this insanity.

Yup--Old Dickhead Cheney is safe from MY Skyhawk attack anyway. Sheesh.



www.Rosspilot.com

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, (Rosspilot) said:
>Call FSS and find out there are 3 different TFRs in the NYC area today
>because the G.D. VICE President is travelling through. FSS told me they
>were JUST getting the information this morning. It was on AOPA's site,
>but I don't know when it came up.

Did you see this morning's AOPA ePilot mailing? Loy, administrator(?) of
the TSA, says that in the panic after 9/11 they vastly overestimated the
threat posed by GA, and it's time to rethink all those restrictions.

Oh, here it is on-line:
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-4-059x.html



--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Here in the US, we are so schizoid and deeply opposed to government
censorship that we insist on having unaccountable private parties
to do it instead. -- Bill Cole

[John T]

"Rosspilot" > wrote in message

>
> Yup--Old Dickhead Cheney is safe from MY Skyhawk attack anyway.
> Sheesh.

Just out of curiosity: Is he a "dickhead" as a result of the TFR's? Or is
this a pre-existing condition? :)

--
John T
http://tknowlogy.com/tknoFlyer
__________

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "John T" > said:
>"Rosspilot" > wrote in message

>> Yup--Old Dickhead Cheney is safe from MY Skyhawk attack anyway.
>> Sheesh.
>
>Just out of curiosity: Is he a "dickhead" as a result of the TFR's? Or is
>this a pre-existing condition? :)

Having read Schwartzkopf's book about the first Gulf War, I'd say Cheney
was a dickhead before the TFRs.


--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Medication did wonders for me, Dave. Perhaps it could for you, if a
crowbar and half a pound of axle grease counts as medication.
-- Red Drag Diva

[C J Campbell]

"John T" > wrote in message
ws.com...
| "Rosspilot" > wrote in message
|
| >
| > Yup--Old Dickhead Cheney is safe from MY Skyhawk attack anyway.
| > Sheesh.
|
| Just out of curiosity: Is he a "dickhead" as a result of the TFR's? Or is
| this a pre-existing condition? :)
|

Don't go there. Cheney may be a dickhead, but most of his critics are even
worse -- they ought to wear condoms on their heads.

[G.R. Patterson III]

Rosspilot wrote:
>
> Call FSS and find out there are 3 different TFRs in the NYC area today because
> the G.D. VICE President is travelling through.
> FSS told me they were JUST getting the information this morning. It was on
> AOPA's site, but I don't know when it came up.

I noticed it two days ago in the evening, but I don't know how long it had been
up at that time.

George Patterson
You can dress a hog in a tuxedo, but he still wants to roll in the mud.

[Roger Tracy]

I don't think these decisions are being made by anyone in the TSA, FAA,
or anyone with any knowledge of aviation. It's all coming from the White
House.


"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
...
> In a previous article, (Rosspilot) said:
> >Call FSS and find out there are 3 different TFRs in the NYC area today
> >because the G.D. VICE President is travelling through. FSS told me they
> >were JUST getting the information this morning. It was on AOPA's site,
> >but I don't know when it came up.
>
> Did you see this morning's AOPA ePilot mailing? Loy, administrator(?) of
> the TSA, says that in the panic after 9/11 they vastly overestimated the
> threat posed by GA, and it's time to rethink all those restrictions.
>
> Oh, here it is on-line:
> http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-4-059x.html
>
>
>
> --
> Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
> Here in the US, we are so schizoid and deeply opposed to government
> censorship that we insist on having unaccountable private parties
> to do it instead. -- Bill Cole

[Ross Richardson]

I wrote to President Bush about all of this and especially when the
campaign trail hits. No reply. I tried to play on that he is a pilot and
he would understand.

Need to keep writing (snail mail) letters.

Ross

Rosspilot wrote:
>
> I had an important photo shoot to do today in lower Manhattan . . . everything
> set to go and perfect weather. I call to make my usual coordination with the
> LGA Tower and Tracon and NYPD Aviation . . .
>
> Call FSS and find out there are 3 different TFRs in the NYC area today because
> the G.D. VICE President is travelling through.
> FSS told me they were JUST getting the information this morning. It was on
> AOPA's site, but I don't know when it came up.
>
> It's really a pain in the ass and so ridiculous. And it's keeps me from doing
> my work. I guess I shouldn't gripe so much, since I can shoot it next week . .
> . unlike all the GA businesses that are already dried up and gone because of
> this insanity.
>
> Yup--Old Dickhead Cheney is safe from MY Skyhawk attack anyway. Sheesh.
>
> www.Rosspilot.com

[Ross Richardson]

I think I read it is the Secret Service

Roger Tracy wrote:
>
> I don't think these decisions are being made by anyone in the TSA, FAA,
> or anyone with any knowledge of aviation. It's all coming from the White
> House.
>
> "Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In a previous article, (Rosspilot) said:
> > >Call FSS and find out there are 3 different TFRs in the NYC area today
> > >because the G.D. VICE President is travelling through. FSS told me they
> > >were JUST getting the information this morning. It was on AOPA's site,
> > >but I don't know when it came up.
> >
> > Did you see this morning's AOPA ePilot mailing? Loy, administrator(?) of
> > the TSA, says that in the panic after 9/11 they vastly overestimated the
> > threat posed by GA, and it's time to rethink all those restrictions.
> >
> > Oh, here it is on-line:
> > http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-4-059x.html
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
> > Here in the US, we are so schizoid and deeply opposed to government
> > censorship that we insist on having unaccountable private parties
> > to do it instead. -- Bill Cole

[Rosspilot]

Well things worked out as they are supposed to . . . weather turned very
blustery, gusty and cloudy and would not have been such a great photo day
anyway.

C'est la vi


www.Rosspilot.com

[David Reinhart]

We've been through this before. All the agencies involved Treasury (Secret
Service), TSA, and FAA are part of the Executive branch. If the president
ordered them to cut back on the TFRs, they'd do it. He hasn't, and I doubt he
will.

Dave Reinhart


Roger Tracy wrote:

> I don't think these decisions are being made by anyone in the TSA, FAA,
> or anyone with any knowledge of aviation. It's all coming from the White
> House.
>
> "Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In a previous article, (Rosspilot) said:
> > >Call FSS and find out there are 3 different TFRs in the NYC area today
> > >because the G.D. VICE President is travelling through. FSS told me they
> > >were JUST getting the information this morning. It was on AOPA's site,
> > >but I don't know when it came up.
> >
> > Did you see this morning's AOPA ePilot mailing? Loy, administrator(?) of
> > the TSA, says that in the panic after 9/11 they vastly overestimated the
> > threat posed by GA, and it's time to rethink all those restrictions.
> >
> > Oh, here it is on-line:
> > http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2003/03-4-059x.html
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
> > Here in the US, we are so schizoid and deeply opposed to government
> > censorship that we insist on having unaccountable private parties
> > to do it instead. -- Bill Cole

[Larry Dighera]

On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 19:54:44 -0700, newsman <newsman @noone.C0M> wrote
in Message-Id: <1116269.TElyEpTWcM@loopback>:

>I hope all the pilots that voted for the dyslexic duo of Bush/Cheney are
>happily grounded due to the wandering TFRs.

[Doug Carter]

newsman wrote:
> On Friday 24 October 2003 08:27 am Roger Tracy wrote:
>
>
>>I don't think these decisions are being made by anyone in the TSA, FAA,
>>or anyone with any knowledge of aviation. It's all coming from the White
>>House.
>
>
> Most assuredly it's coming from the White House. Bush is a real aviator
> alright. What a bunch of goons. I hope all the pilots that voted for
> the dyslexic duo of Bush/Cheney are happily grounded due to the wandering
> TFRs.
>

Had Gore been elected GA probably would have been baned after 9-11.
After all, airplanes have internal combustion engines, "...Internal
combustion engines interfere with earth’s cleansing..."