How do I ship a glider from CA to TN?

[Scott Alexander[_2_]]

Suppose I wanted to ship a glider from California to Tennessee. How
would I do that? Anyone done this before?

I have searched the forum regarding this, but only finding shipping
info to/from internationally.

Thanks!

[Mike[_37_]]

On Feb 14, 1:33*pm, Scott Alexander >
wrote:
> Suppose I wanted to ship a glider from California to Tennessee. *How
> would I do that? *Anyone done this before?
>
> I have searched the forum regarding this, but only finding shipping
> info to/from internationally.
>
> Thanks!

If it has a decent trailer, ask if someone will transport it for you.
Some folks do it for income.

[Hagbard Celine]

A friend of mine had a glider shipped from the East coast to
Washington state by rail and the managed to do some significant damage
to it. They must hav dropped the trailer while loading or unloading it
from the rail car. When I was buying a new trailer for my glider I
looked into seeing if any of the companies that transport cars and
RV's across country could do it but none of them seemed the least bit
interested in taking my business. Eventually the person selling me the
trailer found a fellow glider pilot who was driving across country and
I paid them to haul it for me (at the time there was no way I could
have taken the time off to go get it myself).

On Feb 14, 12:40*pm, Mike > wrote:
> On Feb 14, 1:33*pm, Scott Alexander >
> wrote:
>
> > Suppose I wanted to ship a glider from California to Tennessee. *How
> > would I do that? *Anyone done this before?
>
> > I have searched the forum regarding this, but only finding shipping
> > info to/from internationally.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> If it has a decent trailer, ask if someone will transport it for you.
> Some folks do it for income.

[Juanman]

If you post in on uship.com you will get a number of replies. Mostly
from people who will tow it. Include a photo of a similar trailer for
reference.




On Feb 14, 3:57*pm, Hagbard Celine > wrote:
> A friend of mine had a glider shipped from the East coast to
> Washington state by rail and the managed to do some significant damage
> to it. They must hav dropped the trailer while loading or unloading it
> from the rail car. When I was buying a new trailer for my glider I
> looked into seeing if any of the companies that transport cars and
> RV's across country could do it but none of them seemed the least bit
> interested in taking my business. Eventually the person selling me the
> trailer found a fellow glider pilot who was driving across country and
> I paid them to haul it for me (at the time there was no way I could
> have taken the time off to go get it *myself).
>
> On Feb 14, 12:40*pm, Mike > wrote:
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> > On Feb 14, 1:33*pm, Scott Alexander >
> > wrote:
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> > > Suppose I wanted to ship a glider from California to Tennessee. *How
> > > would I do that? *Anyone done this before?
>
> > > I have searched the forum regarding this, but only finding shipping
> > > info to/from internationally.
>
> > > Thanks!
>
> > If it has a decent trailer, ask if someone will transport it for you.
> > Some folks do it for income.

[Darryl Ramm]

8 years ago or so I shipped a DG-303 in trailer from Flordia to CA. Used Peterson Transport from Kansas, not sure they are still around. You need to look for trucking companies that handle transporting mixed loads/equipment on a low-loader. Not the folks who focus on carring cars on car transporters.. And some of this requires you to just get lucky to find a carrier willing or already planning to go your route and able to double up load etc. to avoid it being too many $k. I got lucky and just saw this company mentioned on a glider forum. I think he had an antique car (well covered) and parts/assembly for earthmoving equipment on his trailer on this trip. Either way look for carriers with major business near either/both ends of your route.

Finding a glider pilot/crew member who is experienced towing gliders and paying them may be easier--but your trailer better be perfectly road worth. And double check insurance etc.

Darryl

[RS]

On Feb 14, 3:33*pm, Scott Alexander >
wrote:
> Suppose I wanted to ship a glider from California to Tennessee. *How
> would I do that? *Anyone done this before?
>
> I have searched the forum regarding this, but only finding shipping
> info to/from internationally.
>
> Thanks!

Check barnstormers.com
There is a company that ships trailers/aircraft via flatbed. It
wasn't cheap though, from east coast to nevada was around $3400 I
think. There's also soar minden, or soar Nevada, that offers trailer
towing.

[WR]

On Feb 14, 2:33*pm, Scott Alexander >
wrote:
> Suppose I wanted to ship a glider from California to Tennessee. *How
> would I do that? *Anyone done this before?
>
> I have searched the forum regarding this, but only finding shipping
> info to/from internationally.
>
> Thanks!

I'll second the Uship.com recommendation. Towed by an experienced guy
that tows stuff for a living from Williams CA to DFW area for about
$1300. No damage and on time, well worth the money.
WR

[km]

On Feb 14, 1:33*pm, Scott Alexander >
wrote:
> Suppose I wanted to ship a glider from California to Tennessee. *How
> would I do that? *Anyone done this before?
>
Interesting story; I just flew to the East coast to do some glider
shopping and on the plane I sat next to a guy who worked for a major
railroad and the guy was a pilot. I told him what I was going on my
trip for and explained I would need some way to get a ship home. He
said that you cannot ship by rail because much of the track is not the
smooth welded seam track (There is a special name for this modern
track which I do not recall) and that the suspension on a freight car
is too stiff so even if you get a nice ride on a passenger train a
glider would get pretty beaten up.
There is a slight chance I will be headed to the East Coast in April
and I could possibly help you out if you get your ship to UT.

[Scott[_9_]]

Uship.com. Pennsylvania to Houston Texas for $800.

On Feb 14, 8:49*pm, km > wrote:
> On Feb 14, 1:33*pm, Scott Alexander >
> wrote:> Suppose I wanted to ship a glider from California to Tennessee. *How
> > would I do that? *Anyone done this before?
>
> Interesting story; I just flew to the East coast to do some glider
> shopping and on the plane I sat next to a guy who worked for a major
> railroad and the guy was a pilot. I told him what I was going on my
> trip for and explained I would need some way to get a ship home. He
> said that you cannot ship by rail because much of the track is not the
> smooth welded seam track (There is a special name for this modern
> track which I do not recall) and that the suspension on a freight car
> is too stiff so even if you get a nice ride on a passenger train a
> glider would get pretty beaten up.
> There is a slight chance I will be headed to the East Coast in April
> and I could possibly help you out if you get your ship to UT.

[Eric Greenwell[_4_]]

On 2/14/2012 12:57 PM, Hagbard Celine wrote:
> A friend of mine had a glider shipped from the East coast to
> Washington state by rail and the managed to do some significant damage
> to it. They must hav dropped the trailer while loading or unloading it
> from the rail car.

I spoke to a couple of people at the SSA convention who strongly advised
against rail transport in the US for gliders in trailers. Apparently,
the cars crashing together when switched from one train and re-coupled
onto another train is too forceful for most trailers, and the gliders
are damaged.

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)

[guy]

I would suggest calling Soaring NV in Minden and Williams Soaring in
California.
There are usually people willing to tow the trailer anywhere for a
fee.
I had a glider towed from Arizona to California by a private person
and we just had a glider towed from the east coast to California by a
private person.
Guy

[Richard[_9_]]

On Feb 14, 12:33*pm, Scott Alexander >
wrote:
> Suppose I wanted to ship a glider from California to Tennessee. *How
> would I do that? *Anyone done this before?
>
> I have searched the forum regarding this, but only finding shipping
> info to/from internationally.
>
> Thanks!

Scott,

Call a local trucking company and ship on a truck flatbed or
enclosed.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[rlovinggood]

On Feb 14, 10:34*pm, Eric Greenwell > wrote:
> On 2/14/2012 12:57 PM, Hagbard Celine wrote:
>
> > A friend of mine had a glider shipped from the East coast to
> > Washington state by rail and the managed to do some significant damage
> > to it. They must hav dropped the trailer while loading or unloading it
> > from the rail car.
>
> I spoke to a couple of people at the SSA convention who strongly advised
> against rail transport in the US for gliders in trailers. Apparently,
> the cars crashing together when switched from one train and re-coupled
> onto another train is too forceful for most trailers, and the gliders
> are damaged.
>
> --
> Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
> email me)

Eric,

I had a project that for one day put me in a rail "Hump Yard". No,
not that kind of hump yard, unfortunately. A hump yard is sort of a
marshalling yard with a slight hill where a locomotive pushes cars up
to the crest. The cars are uncoupled and allowed to roll, via the
help of gravity, down the gentle slope and they are directed by many
switches in the tracks to the right spot as a new "train" is built.
Fascinating to watch. At least for a while.

While the rail cars are rolling very slowly, there is a tremendous
mass moving which has a lot of energy. When the moving car hits a
parked rail car, there's a lot of energy expended. WHAM! Even at a
slow walking speed, it's amazing how much of a "WHAM" that is
produced. There were many rail cars carrying new automobiles and many
times, when the rail cars "collided", the automotive alarms were set
off.

Some of the rail cars were the open top gondolas carrying scrap
metal. Some of the metal bits were big and heavy chunks of steel that
would "leave a mark" if one hit you. And lots of the parts were
strewn around the tracks, no doubt ejected when a rolling car
connected to a stopped car. You don't want to be close to the cars
when they are getting ready to slam into stopped cars.

Interesting is that the slowly rolling rail cars are very quiet.
That's one of the dangers of working there. Never stand with your
back facing the direction of where the cars are coming from. One can
be approaching, again at a slow walking speed, and you just don't hear
it. Eerie!

[Free Flight 107[_2_]]

Check with the Car Show guys, they do it all the time via low cost
Auto movers.

[YourNameHere]

Uship
Truckee to Dallas 1,100$ several years ago.
Worked out very well.

On 2/14/2012 2:33 PM, Scott Alexander wrote:
> Suppose I wanted to ship a glider from California to Tennessee. How
> would I do that? Anyone done this before?
>
> I have searched the forum regarding this, but only finding shipping
> info to/from internationally.
>
> Thanks!

[Scott[_7_]]

On 2-16-2012 14:06, YourNameHere wrote:
> Uship
> Truckee to Dallas 1,100$ several years ago.
> Worked out very well.
>
> On 2/14/2012 2:33 PM, Scott Alexander wrote:
>> Suppose I wanted to ship a glider from California to Tennessee. How
>> would I do that? Anyone done this before?
>>
>> I have searched the forum regarding this, but only finding shipping
>> info to/from internationally.
>>
>> Thanks!


I suppose you can't fly it there...;)

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