Limited Handicapping Authorized for 2012 USA Standard Class Nationals

[John Godfrey (QT)[_2_]]

The USA Competition Committee has issued a waiver for the 2012
Standard Class National contest that authorizes a limited use of
handicaps. The waiver and specifics can be found at
http://www.ssa.org/files/member/Waiver%20for%202012%20Standard%20Class%20Nationals .pdf

[Michael Westbrook]

Thumbs up to the Committe for giving this a try.

[CLewis95]

On Feb 16, 7:51*am, Michael Westbrook > wrote:
> Thumbs up to the Committe for giving this a try.

I like this idea to try and increase participation. I for one would
be MUCH more likely to compete in Standard Nats (vs Sports Nats) under
this waiver/rule ... next time they are held in Central US region. :)

Works for me ...

Curt - 95
Genesis II

[soartech[_2_]]

On Feb 16, 10:20*am, CLewis95 > wrote:
> On Feb 16, 7:51*am, Michael Westbrook > wrote:
>
> > Thumbs up to the Committe for giving this a try.
>
> I like this idea to try and increase participation. *I for one would
> be MUCH more likely to compete in Standard Nats (vs Sports Nats) under
> this waiver/rule ... next time they are held in Central US region. :)
>
> Works for me ...
>
> Curt - 95
> Genesis II

What is the difference between the Standard class and the 15 meter
class? Aren't they both 15 meters?

[Tony[_5_]]

On Feb 16, 11:34*am, soartech > wrote:
> On Feb 16, 10:20*am, CLewis95 > wrote:
>
> > On Feb 16, 7:51*am, Michael Westbrook > wrote:
>
> > > Thumbs up to the Committe for giving this a try.
>
> > I like this idea to try and increase participation. *I for one would
> > be MUCH more likely to compete in Standard Nats (vs Sports Nats) under
> > this waiver/rule ... next time they are held in Central US region. :)
>
> > Works for me ...
>
> > Curt - 95
> > Genesis II
>
> What is the difference between the Standard class and the 15 meter
> class? Aren't they both 15 meters?

Yes both are 15 meter spans. Standard class has no flaps

[Dave Nadler]

C'mon now, lube your wheel bearings and drive to Montague.
Fabulous scenery, spouse-friendly town of Yreka, awesome
flying. You've got a couple days less driving than me !
And you don't even need to lug a full-size fuselage !
See you in Montague (has a nice ring, eh ?),
Best Regards, Dave "YO electric"

[CLewis95]

On Feb 16, 2:07*pm, Dave Nadler > wrote:
> C'mon now, lube your wheel bearings and drive to Montague.
> Fabulous scenery, spouse-friendly town of Yreka, awesome
> flying. You've got a couple days less driving than me !
> And you don't even need to lug a full-size fuselage !
> See you in Montague (has a nice ring, eh ?),
> Best Regards, Dave "YO electric"

Thx for the push Dave. I'll make it out there someday ... and as far
as not having to lug a full-size fuse ... what the Genesis loses in
fuselage it makes up for in luxury cockpit size :)

Good luck out there!

Curt - 95
Genesis 2

[[email protected]]

On Feb 16, 1:35*pm, CLewis95 > wrote:
> On Feb 16, 2:07*pm, Dave Nadler > wrote:
>
> > C'mon now, lube your wheel bearings and drive to Montague.
> > Fabulous scenery, spouse-friendly town of Yreka, awesome
> > flying. You've got a couple days less driving than me !
> > And you don't even need to lug a full-size fuselage !
> > See you in Montague (has a nice ring, eh ?),
> > Best Regards, Dave "YO electric"
>
> Thx for the push Dave. *I'll make it out there someday ... and as far
> as not having to lug a full-size fuse ... what the Genesis loses in
> fuselage it makes up for in luxury cockpit size :)
>
> Good luck out there!
>
> Curt - 95
> Genesis 2

You are missing a chance to fly in a spectacularly beautiful place

G. Kemp

[noel.wade]

Thanks to the Competition Committee for exploring this option!

I am submitting my Registration for Montague now! :-)

Can't wait for the beautiful scenery and challenging flying there!

--Noel

[Dave Nadler]

You're never going to experience great western
mountains until you, ya know, drive out west !
C'mon down !
See ya, Dave "YO electric"

[Frank Paynter[_2_]]

On Feb 15, 9:35*pm, "John Godfrey (QT)" >
wrote:
> The USA Competition Committee has issued a waiver for the 2012
> Standard Class National contest that authorizes a limited use of
> handicaps. The waiver and specifics can be found athttp://www.ssa.org/files/member/Waiver%20for%202012%20Standard%20Clas...

Hmm, I just read the waiver, and the maximum handicap allowed is 3.5%,
considerably more than the 2% handicap for standard class over 15m
under the old 'combined std/15m class rules for regionals. Not that
we should notice the 5000lb elephant in the room, but doesn't that
kind of indicate that it is time to simply fold the standard class
into the 15m class, with a 2-3% handicap?

TA

[Tony[_5_]]

I'm just waiting for the participation issue to get so bad that they
expand the allowable handicap range to about...1.543 :D Then I can
design a new wing for the Cherokee. 13.5 m with 15 meter tips sounds
good, right? In all seriousness I like this idea. If I had even a 1.0-
ish handicap ship I'd probably go to the contest based on this.
Hopefully it helps participation.

[John Cochrane[_2_]]

On Feb 17, 2:32*pm, Tony > wrote:
> I'm just waiting for the participation issue to get so bad that they
> expand the allowable handicap range to about...1.543 :D *Then I can
> design a new wing for the Cherokee. 13.5 m with 15 meter tips sounds
> good, right? *In all seriousness I like this idea. If I had even a 1.0-
> ish handicap ship I'd probably go to the contest based on this.
> Hopefully it helps participation.

The interesting new place for the cherokee is in the 13.5 handicapped
class. Which hopefully will evolve into a handicapped class for all
gliders, i.e. including KA6, L33, ASK21, etc. There will be a 13.5
super regional in texas this summer Tony....

John Cochrane

[Tony[_5_]]

> The interesting new place for the cherokee is in the 13.5 handicapped
> class. Which hopefully will evolve into a handicapped class for all
> gliders, i.e. including KA6, L33, ASK21, etc. There will be a 13.5
> super regional in texas this summer Tony....
>
> John Cochrane

I was the first to sign up :) very much looking forward to the contest.