2012 13.5 Meter Super Regional

[JS]

Announcement just came in from SSA. Hosted by Texas Soaring Association. (used to be TSA, but that name was hijacked)
Has anyone built 13.5m tips for their V2C, ASG29, etc yet?
Jim

[kirk.stant]

On Monday, April 16, 2012 5:08:49 PM UTC-5, JS wrote:
> Announcement just came in from SSA. Hosted by Texas Soaring Association. (used to be TSA, but that name was hijacked)
> Has anyone built 13.5m tips for their V2C, ASG29, etc yet?
> Jim

Isn't this post about 2 weeks too late?

Kirk
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[Tony[_5_]]

On Monday, April 16, 2012 5:08:49 PM UTC-5, JS wrote:
> Announcement just came in from SSA. Hosted by Texas Soaring Association. (used to be TSA, but that name was hijacked)
> Has anyone built 13.5m tips for their V2C, ASG29, etc yet?
> Jim

i was thinking about building 13.5 meter extensions for the Cherokee. YYY, Leah, and I will be at TSA. We can't wait.

[Steve Leonard[_2_]]

On Apr 16, 5:08*pm, JS > wrote:
> * Announcement just came in from SSA. Hosted by Texas Soaring Association. (used to be TSA, but that name was hijacked)
> * Has anyone built 13.5m tips for their V2C, ASG29, etc yet?
> Jim

Or, what about finding a Discus K? Remember that one? Maybe an
SZD-59? Short tips for my 604, but it would probably be a little too
heavy!

Steve

[[email protected]]

On Apr 16, 7:46*pm, Steve Leonard > wrote:
> On Apr 16, 5:08*pm, JS > wrote:
>
> > * Announcement just came in from SSA. Hosted by Texas Soaring Association. (used to be TSA, but that name was hijacked)
> > * Has anyone built 13.5m tips for their V2C, ASG29, etc yet?
> > Jim
>
> Or, what about finding a Discus K? *Remember that one? *Maybe an
> SZD-59? *Short tips for my 604, but it would probably be a little too
> heavy!
>
> Steve

Looking for an insurance policy and test pilot.

Bill Snead
6W

[Peter von Tresckow]

Unfortunately the Discus K is 13.7m. Still would require a little hack saw
work :-)

Peter

"Steve Leonard" > wrote in message
...
On Apr 16, 5:08 pm, JS > wrote:
> Announcement just came in from SSA. Hosted by Texas Soaring Association.
> (used to be TSA, but that name was hijacked)
> Has anyone built 13.5m tips for their V2C, ASG29, etc yet?
> Jim

Or, what about finding a Discus K? Remember that one? Maybe an
SZD-59? Short tips for my 604, but it would probably be a little too
heavy!

Steve

[John Cochrane[_2_]]

On Apr 17, 7:53*am, "Peter von Tresckow" > wrote:
> Unfortunately the Discus K is 13.7m. Still would require a little hack saw
> work :-)
>
> Peter
>
> "Steve Leonard" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Apr 16, 5:08 pm, JS > wrote:
>
> > Announcement just came in from SSA. Hosted by Texas Soaring Association..
> > (used to be TSA, but that name was hijacked)
> > Has anyone built 13.5m tips for their V2C, ASG29, etc yet?
> > Jim
>
> Or, what about finding a Discus K? *Remember that one? *Maybe an
> SZD-59? *Short tips for my 604, but it would probably be a little too
> heavy!
>
> Steve

More seriously, what about a Blanik, ASK21, SZD Junior, KA6, Foka,
Solo L-33, 1-34, 1-36, etc?

What do all these gliders have in common? About the same performance
as the 13.5 meter gliders, exlcluded from club class, and have been
flown in US competitions. But wings that are too long.

If the 13.5 meter handicapped concept doesn't draw 60 gliders, I hope
we might consider a lower-performance handicapped concept that would
bring together lots of gliders in a similar performance range
regardless of wingspan. Otherwise, as things are developing, these
gliders might end up with nowhere to go

John Cochrane

[C-FFKQ (42)]

On Monday, April 16, 2012 9:46:01 PM UTC-4, Steve Leonard wrote:
Short tips for my 604, but it would probably be a little too
> heavy!
>
> Steve

Hey, Steve... isn't the centre section of the 604 already longer than 13.5m???

[Steve Leonard[_2_]]

On Apr 17, 9:48*am, "C-FFKQ (42)" > wrote:
> On Monday, April 16, 2012 9:46:01 PM UTC-4, Steve Leonard wrote:
>
> Short tips for my 604, but it would probably be a little too heavy!
>
> > Steve
>
> Hey, Steve... isn't the centre section of the 604 already longer than 13.5m???

Nah, it is only about 7 meters. So, I have room to do some fancy aero
stuff with the new 13.5 meter tips.

[kirk.stant]

On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:13:07 AM UTC-5, Steve Leonard wrote:
> On Apr 17, 9:48*am, "C-FFKQ (42)" > wrote:
> > On Monday, April 16, 2012 9:46:01 PM UTC-4, Steve Leonard wrote:
> >
> > Short tips for my 604, but it would probably be a little too heavy!
> >
> > > Steve
> >
> > Hey, Steve... isn't the centre section of the 604 already longer than 13.5m???
>
> Nah, it is only about 7 meters. So, I have room to do some fancy aero
> stuff with the new 13.5 meter tips.

If you put winglets on upside down, don't they effectively reduce your wingspan?

Kirk
66

[Steve Leonard[_2_]]

On Apr 17, 12:52*pm, "kirk.stant" > wrote:
> > > Hey, Steve... isn't the centre section of the 604 already longer than 13.5m???
>
> > Nah, it is only about 7 meters. *So, I have room to do some fancy aero
> > stuff with the new 13.5 meter tips.
>
> If you put winglets on upside down, don't they effectively reduce your wingspan?
>
> Kirk
> 66

Not near as much as replacing 7.5 meter tips with 3.25 meter tips
does!

Steve
ZS

[[email protected]]

On Apr 17, 3:43*pm, Steve Leonard > wrote:
> On Apr 17, 12:52*pm, "kirk.stant" > wrote:
>
> > > > Hey, Steve... isn't the centre section of the 604 already longer than 13.5m???
>
> > > Nah, it is only about 7 meters. *So, I have room to do some fancy aero
> > > stuff with the new 13.5 meter tips.
>
> > If you put winglets on upside down, don't they effectively reduce your wingspan?
>
> > Kirk
> > 66
>
> Not near as much as replacing 7.5 meter tips with 3.25 meter tips
> does!
>
> Steve
> ZS

I support John Cochrane"s comment. I would like to see any glider
with a handicap plus or minus 7 percent of a PW-5 allowed in a "Fun
Class". The USA then could send the winners in this class to fly in
the 13.5 meter internationals.

Bill Snead
6W

[[email protected]]

On Apr 17, 10:05*pm, " > wrote:
> On Apr 17, 3:43*pm, Steve Leonard > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 17, 12:52*pm, "kirk.stant" > wrote:
>
> > > > > Hey, Steve... isn't the centre section of the 604 already longer than 13.5m???
>
> > > > Nah, it is only about 7 meters. *So, I have room to do some fancy aero
> > > > stuff with the new 13.5 meter tips.
>
> > > If you put winglets on upside down, don't they effectively reduce your wingspan?
>
> > > Kirk
> > > 66
>
> > Not near as much as replacing 7.5 meter tips with 3.25 meter tips
> > does!
>
> > Steve
> > ZS
>
> I support John Cochrane"s comment. *I would like to see any glider
> with a handicap plus or minus 7 percent *of a PW-5 allowed in a "Fun
> Class". *The USA then could send the winners in this class to fly in
> the 13.5 meter internationals.
>
> Bill Snead
> 6W

I know that it is probably too much to hope for but...I'd like to see
the Cygnet show up and go up against the Smyks and the Russia's.

Brian Lott