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Netko
April 24th 12, 12:44 PM
The attached Flight picture shows Alexander Ogilvie's Wright biplane being
towed out at the July 1912 'aviation week' at Bournemouth on the south coast
of England. Ogilvie was the 7th person to qualify as a pilot in the UK.

My off-topic question is very straightforward and concerns the vehicle towing
the aircraft: what kind is it?

I have every confidence that someone here will know.

April 25th 12, 03:20 AM
Must be a British car the steering wheel is on the wrong side.

Dave Kearton[_3_]
April 25th 12, 05:48 AM
> wrote in message
...
> Must be a British car the steering wheel is on the wrong side.



Not necessarily. Even up to the 1920s there were still cars made in the US
with steering wheels on the right.




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Andrew Chaplin
April 25th 12, 12:34 PM
"Dave Kearton" > wrote in
:

> > wrote in message
> ...
>> Must be a British car the steering wheel is on the wrong side.
>
> Not necessarily. Even up to the 1920s there were still cars made in
> the US with steering wheels on the right.

Even today there are still right-hand drive vehicles produced in the U.S.
They just happen to be either huge dumps to work with a mine's dragline or
little postal delivery vehicles.
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Netko
April 25th 12, 09:26 PM
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 03:20:55 +0100, wrote
(in article >):

> Must be a British car the steering wheel is on the wrong side.

I'd be happy to live in a world where right is wrong and left is right if
only someone could tell me what kind of car it is.

Attached is an enlargement of the vehicle to see if that helps. It seems to
me to have a fairly distinctive body shape and surely somebody must recognise
that badge/logo on the radiator grill. Then again, what I know about makes
and models of cars would barely fill a thimble.

And, to set the record straight, the picture was taken at Bournemouth's
Aviation Week in July 1910 and not as I said originally. It was at the same
event that Charles Rolls, co-founder of Rolls-Royce, was killed when taking
part in a spot landing competition. Rolls was only the second person in the
UK to be killed in an aviation accident (the first being Percy Pilcher in
1899).

Conscious Pilate[_2_]
April 25th 12, 10:32 PM
G'day,

maybe if you put it up on alt.binaries.pictures.autos - that lot would
certainly suss out what it is.

see ya

Conscious Pilate

"Netko" > wrote in message
...
> The attached Flight picture shows Alexander Ogilvie's Wright biplane being
> towed out at the July 1912 'aviation week' at Bournemouth on the south
> coast
> of England. Ogilvie was the 7th person to qualify as a pilot in the UK.
>
> My off-topic question is very straightforward and concerns the vehicle
> towing
> the aircraft: what kind is it?
>
> I have every confidence that someone here will know.
>

Savageduck[_3_]
April 26th 12, 12:34 AM
On 2012-04-25 13:26:24 -0700, Netko > said:

> This is a multipart message in MIME format.
>
>
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 03:20:55 +0100, wrote
> (in article >):
>
>> Must be a British car the steering wheel is on the wrong side.
>
> I'd be happy to live in a world where right is wrong and left is right if
> only someone could tell me what kind of car it is.
>
> Attached is an enlargement of the vehicle to see if that helps. It seems to
> me to have a fairly distinctive body shape and surely somebody must recognise
> that badge/logo on the radiator grill. Then again, what I know about makes
> and models of cars would barely fill a thimble.
>
> And, to set the record straight, the picture was taken at Bournemouth's
> Aviation Week in July 1910 and not as I said originally. It was at the same
> event that Charles Rolls, co-founder of Rolls-Royce, was killed when taking
> part in a spot landing competition. Rolls was only the second person in the
> UK to be killed in an aviation accident (the first being Percy Pilcher in
> 1899).
>
>
> <image>

I am not able to ID the vehicle myself. However, I have posted an ID
request, together with both of your images, in one of the best
automotive forum sites, < http://www.ultimatecarpage.com > in their
Classic Car forum.
I will report any response which might be forthcoming.

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Regards,

Savageduck

Savageduck[_3_]
April 26th 12, 03:45 AM
On 2012-04-25 16:34:29 -0700, Savageduck > said:

> On 2012-04-25 13:26:24 -0700, Netko > said:
>
>> This is a multipart message in MIME format.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 03:20:55 +0100, wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>> Must be a British car the steering wheel is on the wrong side.
>>
>> I'd be happy to live in a world where right is wrong and left is right if
>> only someone could tell me what kind of car it is.
>>
>> Attached is an enlargement of the vehicle to see if that helps. It seems to
>> me to have a fairly distinctive body shape and surely somebody must recognise
>> that badge/logo on the radiator grill. Then again, what I know about makes
>> and models of cars would barely fill a thimble.
>>
>> And, to set the record straight, the picture was taken at Bournemouth's
>> Aviation Week in July 1910 and not as I said originally. It was at the same
>> event that Charles Rolls, co-founder of Rolls-Royce, was killed when taking
>> part in a spot landing competition. Rolls was only the second person in the
>> UK to be killed in an aviation accident (the first being Percy Pilcher in
>> 1899).
>>
>>
>> <image>
>
> I am not able to ID the vehicle myself. However, I have posted an ID
> request, together with both of your images, in one of the best
> automotive forum sites, < http://www.ultimatecarpage.com > in their
> Classic Car forum.
> I will report any response which might be forthcoming.

Well, my guys at Ultimatecarpage seem to have come through. The vehicle
is apparently a custom coachwork, 1910 Delahaye Type 32 Roadster.

The radiator badge is not a "B", but the stylized Delahaye badge of the
pre-WWI "Brass car" era.
Then the radiator itself is positively diagnostic.

Here is that badge & radiator so you can make your own comparison.




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Regards,

Savageduck

ŽiŠardo
April 26th 12, 10:41 AM
On 26/04/2012 03:45, Savageduck wrote:
> On 2012-04-25 16:34:29 -0700, Savageduck
> > said:
>
>> On 2012-04-25 13:26:24 -0700, Netko > said:
>>
>>> This is a multipart message in MIME format.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 03:20:55 +0100, wrote
>>> (in article >):
>>>
>>>> Must be a British car the steering wheel is on the wrong side.
>>>
>>> I'd be happy to live in a world where right is wrong and left is
>>> right if
>>> only someone could tell me what kind of car it is.
>>>
>>> Attached is an enlargement of the vehicle to see if that helps. It
>>> seems to
>>> me to have a fairly distinctive body shape and surely somebody must
>>> recognise
>>> that badge/logo on the radiator grill. Then again, what I know about
>>> makes
>>> and models of cars would barely fill a thimble.
>>>
>>> And, to set the record straight, the picture was taken at Bournemouth's
>>> Aviation Week in July 1910 and not as I said originally. It was at
>>> the same
>>> event that Charles Rolls, co-founder of Rolls-Royce, was killed when
>>> taking
>>> part in a spot landing competition. Rolls was only the second person
>>> in the
>>> UK to be killed in an aviation accident (the first being Percy
>>> Pilcher in
>>> 1899).
>>>
>>>
>>> <image>
>>
>> I am not able to ID the vehicle myself. However, I have posted an ID
>> request, together with both of your images, in one of the best
>> automotive forum sites, < http://www.ultimatecarpage.com > in their
>> Classic Car forum.
>> I will report any response which might be forthcoming.
>
> Well, my guys at Ultimatecarpage seem to have come through. The vehicle
> is apparently a custom coachwork, 1910 Delahaye Type 32 Roadster.
>
> The radiator badge is not a "B", but the stylized Delahaye badge of the
> pre-WWI "Brass car" era.
> Then the radiator itself is positively diagnostic.
>
> Here is that badge & radiator so you can make your own comparison.
>
>
>

Brilliant stuff Savageduck, well done.

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Moving things in still pictures

Netko
April 28th 12, 10:53 AM
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 03:45:01 +0100, Savageduck wrote
(in article <2012042519450116807-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom>):

> Well, my guys at Ultimatecarpage seem to have come through. The vehicle
> is apparently a custom coachwork, 1910 Delahaye Type 32 Roadster.
>
> The radiator badge is not a "B", but the stylized Delahaye badge of the
> pre-WWI "Brass car" era.
> Then the radiator itself is positively diagnostic.
>
> Here is that badge & radiator so you can make your own comparison.

My thanks to you and the people at Ultimatecarpage for taking the time to ID
the vehicle. Much appreciated.

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