Homebuilt 1,000 km flgiht

[Tom[_12_]]

Yesterday, Marian Nowak flew his homebuilt sailplane over 1,000 km at
Ridge Soaring Gliderport Is this a first?

The story about his amazing glider was featured in a recent issue of
"Gliding International."

Tom Knauff

[Evan Ludeman[_4_]]

On Apr 28, 8:27*am, Tom > wrote:
> Yesterday, Marian Nowak flew his homebuilt sailplane over 1,000 km at
> Ridge Soaring Gliderport Is this a first?
>
> The story about his amazing glider was featured in a recent issue of
> "Gliding International."
>
> Tom Knauff

Bob Fitch did this about 25 - 30 years ago with his HP-18.

Evan Ludeman / T8

[Wayne Paul]

Tom,

I'm surprised that you don't remember Bob's HP-18 flight. You were there.
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/HP-18/THE_BLUE_FLY.html

Wayne


"Evan Ludeman" wrote in message
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On Apr 28, 8:27 am, Tom > wrote:
> Yesterday, Marian Nowak flew his homebuilt sailplane over 1,000 km at
> Ridge Soaring Gliderport Is this a first?
>
> The story about his amazing glider was featured in a recent issue of
> "Gliding International."
>
> Tom Knauff

Bob Fitch did this about 25 - 30 years ago with his HP-18.

Evan Ludeman / T8

[[email protected]]

I would assume that Tom meant the first not-from-a-kit homebuilt to fly 1000km

On Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:19:08 AM UTC-7, T8 wrote:
> On Apr 28, 8:27*am, Tom > wrote:
> > Yesterday, Marian Nowak flew his homebuilt sailplane over 1,000 km at
> > Ridge Soaring Gliderport Is this a first?
> >
> > The story about his amazing glider was featured in a recent issue of
> > "Gliding International."
> >
> > Tom Knauff
>
> Bob Fitch did this about 25 - 30 years ago with his HP-18.
>
> Evan Ludeman / T8

[Wayne Paul]

Christopher,

I think Tom simply forgot.

I'm sure Tom would agree that any glider that is classified on its'
Airworthiness Certificate as Homebuilt by the FAA is eligible to compete for
homebuilt firsts/records.

Remember that building the homebuilt glider kits of yesteryear required more
skill and investment of time than today's metal kits with their stack of
parts that are formed by computer driven lathes/drill presses/milling
machines and pre-drilled wing skins.

Now look at today's potential composite kits and what Bob Kuykendall and
Brad Hill have accomplished.
http://www.hpaircraft.com/hp-24/
Do you really think that gliders built using Bob's molds subsequent to
Brad's shouldn't be considered homebuilt?

BTW, Dick Schreder was not an Aeronautical Engineer. He was a Civil
Engineer.
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/Schreder/Richard_Schreder_Biography.html

Wayne



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I would assume that Tom meant the first not-from-a-kit homebuilt to fly
1000km

On Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:19:08 AM UTC-7, T8 wrote:
> On Apr 28, 8:27 am, Tom > wrote:
> > Yesterday, Marian Nowak flew his homebuilt sailplane over 1,000 km at
> > Ridge Soaring Gliderport Is this a first?
> >
> > The story about his amazing glider was featured in a recent issue of
> > "Gliding International."
> >
> > Tom Knauff
>
> Bob Fitch did this about 25 - 30 years ago with his HP-18.
>
> Evan Ludeman / T8

[Evan Ludeman[_4_]]

I didn't mean to take anything away from Marian's accomplishment, but
Bob's was absolutely epic. US diplome #15 and way before GPS and
google earth. The game has changed a lot. Bob did it the hard way
and deserves to be remembered for it. I still recall the bumper
sticker on his van: "Old age and treachery will triumph over youth
and skill!"

-Evan Ludeman / T8

[Andrzej Kobus]

On Apr 28, 8:25*pm, Evan Ludeman > wrote:
> I didn't mean to take anything away from Marian's accomplishment, but
> Bob's was absolutely epic. *US diplome #15 and way before GPS and
> google earth. *The game has changed a lot. *Bob did it the hard way
> and deserves to be remembered for it. *I *still recall the bumper
> sticker on his van: *"Old age and treachery will triumph over youth
> and skill!"
>
> -Evan Ludeman / T8

Marian designed his glider from scratch and he build his glider
himself. It is a composite glider. Marian then flew 1000 km in it!

I am not sure if anything else can be more epic!

AK

[Brad Alston]

On Apr 28, 8:25*pm, Evan Ludeman wrote:[color=blue][i]
I didn't mean to take anything away from Marian's accomplishment, but
Bob's was absolutely epic. *US diplome #15 and way before GPS and
google earth. *The game has changed a lot. *Bob did it the hard way
and deserves to be remembered for it. *...

...

I am not sure if anything else can be more epic!

AK

Both flights mentioned in this thread are noteworthy and inspiring. Lest we forget, there are many "epic" flights to be had. While not necessarily of the world or national record breaking variety, each one of us has the opportunity for "epic" flights as we try to do what we have only dreamed about...even if it's a seemingly small achievement to others.

The beauty of the sport of soaring is that we have the opportunity to challenge ourselves and do things we may have not thought possible before...no matter what the era or technology is being considered.

My current (albeit done "back in the day"...1984-ish) "epic" flight was just shy of 190sm as a gold distance attempt in an SGS 1-34...I failed to get a proper barogram "notch" so the claim was denied. I look forward to many more epic flights in the years to come!

Brad A.

[Brad[_2_]]

On Apr 29, 7:57*am, Brad Alston <Brad.Alston.
> wrote:
> Andrzej Kobus;813990 Wrote:
>
> > On Apr 28, 8:25*pm, Evan Ludeman
> > wrote:[color=blue][i]
> > I didn't mean to take anything away from Marian's accomplishment, but
> > Bob's was absolutely epic. *US diplome #15 and way before GPS and
> > google earth. *The game has changed a lot. *Bob did it the hard way
> > and deserves to be remembered for it. *...
>
> > ...
>
> > I am not sure if anything else can be more epic!
>
> > AK
>
> Both flights mentioned in this thread are noteworthy and inspiring. Lest
> we forget, there are many "epic" flights to be had. While not
> necessarily of the *world or national record breaking variety, each one
> of us has the opportunity for "epic" flights as we try to do what we
> have only dreamed about...even if it's a seemingly small achievement to
> others.
>
> The beauty of the sport of soaring is that we have the opportunity to
> challenge ourselves and do things we may have not thought possible
> before...no matter what the era or technology is being considered.
>
> My current (albeit done "back in the day"...1984-ish) "epic" flight was
> just shy of 190sm as a gold distance attempt in an SGS 1-34...I failed
> to get a proper barogram "notch" so the claim was denied. I look forward
> to many more epic flights in the years to come!
>
> Brad A.
>
> --
> Brad Alston

Right now a homebuilt sailplane is leading the standings for R8 on the
OLC, except we all know the OLC is for wussies.

Brad

[Kevin Christner]

Is there any info on this glider on the web?


On Apr 28, 8:27*am, Tom > wrote:
> Yesterday, Marian Nowak flew his homebuilt sailplane over 1,000 km at
> Ridge Soaring Gliderport Is this a first?
>
> The story about his amazing glider was featured in a recent issue of
> "Gliding International."
>
> Tom Knauff

[Tony[_5_]]

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/700363.html

and it was on the cover of this 2004 Free Flight: http://www.wgc.mb.ca/sac/freeflight/04_01.pdf

[Brad[_2_]]

On Apr 30, 6:48*am, Tony > wrote:
> http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/700363.html
>
> and it was on the cover of this 2004 Free Flight:http://www.wgc.mb.ca/sac/freeflight/04_01.pdf

thanks for the link Tony, that is a beautiful looking sailplane!

Brad

[Derek Mackie]

On Apr 30, 12:01*pm, Brad > wrote:
> On Apr 30, 6:48*am, Tony > wrote:
>
> >http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/700363.html
>
> > and it was on the cover of this 2004 Free Flight:http://www.wgc.mb.ca/sac/freeflight/04_01.pdf
>
> thanks for the link Tony, that is a beautiful looking sailplane!
>
> Brad

Marian designed his "Egret" and built every part from scratch. He
likes to say - "$10,000 and 10,000 hours".... It is as beautiful up
close as it is in the photos and h flies it masterfully.

Derek

[Brad[_2_]]

On Apr 30, 10:10*am, Derek Mackie > wrote:
> On Apr 30, 12:01*pm, Brad > wrote:
>
> > On Apr 30, 6:48*am, Tony > wrote:
>
> > >http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/700363.html
>
> > > and it was on the cover of this 2004 Free Flight:http://www.wgc.mb.ca/sac/freeflight/04_01.pdf
>
> > thanks for the link Tony, that is a beautiful looking sailplane!
>
> > Brad
>
> Marian designed his "Egret" and built every part from scratch. * He
> likes to say - "$10,000 and 10,000 hours".... *It is as beautiful up
> close as it is in the photos and h flies it masterfully.
>
> Derek

I can believe the 10,000 hours part for sure. Did he build it with
negative molds? What is it made of.......fiberglass or carbon,
or........

The span seems greater than 15m, is it?

Brad

[Luke[_4_]]

On 04/30/2012 2:11 PM, Brad wrote:
> On Apr 30, 10:10 am, Derek > wrote:
>> On Apr 30, 12:01 pm, > wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 30, 6:48 am, > wrote:
>>
>>>> http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/700363.html
>>
>>>> and it was on the cover of this 2004 Free Flight:http://www.wgc.mb.ca/sac/freeflight/04_01.pdf
>>
>>> thanks for the link Tony, that is a beautiful looking sailplane!
>>
>>> Brad
>>
>> Marian designed his "Egret" and built every part from scratch. He
>> likes to say - "$10,000 and 10,000 hours".... It is as beautiful up
>> close as it is in the photos and h flies it masterfully.
>>
>> Derek
>
> I can believe the 10,000 hours part for sure. Did he build it with
> negative molds? What is it made of.......fiberglass or carbon,
> or........
>
> The span seems greater than 15m, is it?
>
> Brad

The Egret is 18m fiberglass

Luke

[Brad[_2_]]

On Apr 30, 11:19*am, Luke > wrote:
> On 04/30/2012 2:11 PM, Brad wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 30, 10:10 am, Derek > *wrote:
> >> On Apr 30, 12:01 pm, > *wrote:
>
> >>> On Apr 30, 6:48 am, > *wrote:
>
> >>>>http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/700363.html
>
> >>>> and it was on the cover of this 2004 Free Flight:http://www.wgc.mb.ca/sac/freeflight/04_01.pdf
>
> >>> thanks for the link Tony, that is a beautiful looking sailplane!
>
> >>> Brad
>
> >> Marian designed his "Egret" and built every part from scratch. * He
> >> likes to say - "$10,000 and 10,000 hours".... *It is as beautiful up
> >> close as it is in the photos and h flies it masterfully.
>
> >> Derek
>
> > I can believe the 10,000 hours part for sure. Did he build it with
> > negative molds? What is it made of.......fiberglass or carbon,
> > or........
>
> > The span seems greater than 15m, is it?
>
> > Brad
>
> The Egret is 18m fiberglass
>
> Luke

Awesome...............my hat is off to Mr. Nowak, fantastic job!

Brad

[Evan Ludeman[_4_]]

On Apr 30, 9:48*am, Tony > wrote:
> http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/700363.html
>
> and it was on the cover of this 2004 Free Flight:http://www.wgc.mb.ca/sac/freeflight/04_01.pdf

Sweet!

[Brad[_2_]]

On Apr 30, 12:08*pm, Evan Ludeman > wrote:
> On Apr 30, 9:48*am, Tony > wrote:
>
> >http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/700363.html
>
> > and it was on the cover of this 2004 Free Flight:http://www.wgc.mb.ca/sac/freeflight/04_01.pdf
>
> Sweet!

well, I would very much like to get in touch with Mr Nowak to talk
about sailplane design and building, this is a remarkable achievement,
similar to our HP/Tetra-15 project. I am in awe...............

Brad

[Brad Alston]

;814090']On Apr 30, 12:08*pm, Evan Ludeman wrote:
On Apr 30, 9:48*am, Tony wrote:

http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/700363.html

and it was on the cover of this 2004 Free Flight:http://www.wgc.mb.ca/sac/freeflight/04_01.pdf

Sweet!

well, I would very much like to get in touch with Mr Nowak to talk
about sailplane design and building, this is a remarkable achievement,
similar to our HP/Tetra-15 project. I am in awe...............

Brad

...and, if I may add to my previous post concerning personal epic flights...

It is inspiring to see the epic accomplishments and achievements of others.

Thank you to all who post their recorded flights on OLC for others to view, learn from, and dream about. And a thank you to those who share your stories and pictures of design, development, and construction of beautiful soaring machines.