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Joseph Testagrose
June 5th 12, 01:23 PM

June 6th 12, 03:33 AM
The Lightning is one of, if not thee, best looking fighter ever. The
question is, could it have beaten the Mig-21?

ŽiŠardo
June 6th 12, 10:08 AM
On 06/06/2012 03:33, wrote:
> The Lightning is one of, if not thee, best looking fighter ever. The
> question is, could it have beaten the Mig-21?

Well, it certainly upset the odd U2 pilot:

"The Lightning was ... a formidable opponent; even high-flying U-2
pilots became accustomed to being caught by a Lightning! In 1984, during
a major NATO exercise, Flt Lt Mike Hale intercepted an American U-2 at a
height which they had previously considered safe from interception.
Records show that Hale climbed to 88,000 ft (26,800 m) in his Lightning
F3 XR749. This was not sustained level flight, but in a ballistic climb
or a zoom climb, in which the pilot takes the aircraft to top speed and
then puts the aircraft into a climb, trading speed for altitude."

I seem to recall that the rate of climb of the Lightning was never
de-classified.

It's major problem against the MiG21 would have been endurance.

RiŠardo

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Bob (not my real pseudonym)
June 6th 12, 01:29 PM
On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:08:51 +0100, ŽiŠardo > wrote:

>On 06/06/2012 03:33, wrote:
>> The Lightning is one of, if not thee, best looking fighter ever. The
>> question is, could it have beaten the Mig-21?
>
>Well, it certainly upset the odd U2 pilot:
>
>"The Lightning was ... a formidable opponent; even high-flying U-2
>pilots became accustomed to being caught by a Lightning! In 1984, during
>a major NATO exercise, Flt Lt Mike Hale intercepted an American U-2 at a
>height which they had previously considered safe from interception.
>Records show that Hale climbed to 88,000 ft (26,800 m) in his Lightning
>F3 XR749. This was not sustained level flight, but in a ballistic climb
>or a zoom climb, in which the pilot takes the aircraft to top speed and
>then puts the aircraft into a climb, trading speed for altitude."

Intercepting a U-2... from above. Only the Brits! ;^)

>I seem to recall that the rate of climb of the Lightning was never
>de-classified.
>
>It's major problem against the MiG21 would have been endurance.
>
>RiŠardo

ŽiŠardo
June 6th 12, 01:52 PM
On 06/06/2012 13:29, Bob (not my real pseudonym) wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:08:51 +0100, > wrote:
>
>> On 06/06/2012 03:33, wrote:
>>> The Lightning is one of, if not thee, best looking fighter ever. The
>>> question is, could it have beaten the Mig-21?
>>
>> Well, it certainly upset the odd U2 pilot:
>>
>> "The Lightning was ... a formidable opponent; even high-flying U-2
>> pilots became accustomed to being caught by a Lightning! In 1984, during
>> a major NATO exercise, Flt Lt Mike Hale intercepted an American U-2 at a
>> height which they had previously considered safe from interception.
>> Records show that Hale climbed to 88,000 ft (26,800 m) in his Lightning
>> F3 XR749. This was not sustained level flight, but in a ballistic climb
>> or a zoom climb, in which the pilot takes the aircraft to top speed and
>> then puts the aircraft into a climb, trading speed for altitude."
>
> Intercepting a U-2... from above. Only the Brits! ;^)
>
>> I seem to recall that the rate of climb of the Lightning was never
>> de-classified.
>>
>> It's major problem against the MiG21 would have been endurance.
>>
>> RiŠardo

Well, we have our funny little ways!

;-)

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