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Skypilot
June 30th 12, 01:29 PM
Here you go guys. Video from our last Joey glide comp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMDqrAMRE44&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Justin

son_of_flubber
July 6th 12, 05:00 AM
Just curious. Do the gliders in this video have FLARM? How well does it work in this sort of flying?

Darryl Ramm
July 6th 12, 07:13 AM
On Thursday, July 5, 2012 9:00:57 PM UTC-7, son_of_flubber wrote:
> Just curious. Do the gliders in this video have FLARM? How well does it work in this sort of flying?

OzFlarm is pretty popular in Australia, and use of flarm is mandatory for this Australian contest. But I'm curious what you meant by "this sort of flying". They are basically flying a contest, and the myriad possibilities that involves (large gaggles, leaching/following, buddy flying etc.). Or was there something specific you meant? So much of the PowerFLARM comments on ras have discussed use of PowerFLARM/flarm for use in contests. Is there more/somethign deeper here you are after?

Darryl

son_of_flubber
July 6th 12, 02:48 PM
On Friday, July 6, 2012 2:13:46 AM UTC-4, Darryl Ramm wrote:
> On Thursday, July 5, 2012 9:00:57 PM UTC-7, son_of_flubber wrote:
> > Just curious. Do the gliders in this video have FLARM? How well does it work in this sort of flying?
>
> OzFlarm is pretty popular in Australia, and use of flarm is mandatory for this Australian contest. But I'm curious what you meant by "this sort of flying". They are basically flying a contest, and the myriad possibilities that involves (large gaggles, leaching/following, buddy flying etc.). Or was there something specific you meant? <

Nope. I'm a clueless newbie about contest flying. I read "Joey Glide Camp" (not Comp) and thought this was a training camp for young pilots. I'm vaguely aware that some contests nowadays deliberately increase separation between gliders, and I did not realize that people were still deliberately flying this close.

I guess that the OZFlarm works pretty well? Is it common for the OZFlarm to prompt evasive moves in the circumstances shown in this video?

Darryl Ramm
July 6th 12, 04:10 PM
On Friday, July 6, 2012 6:48:24 AM UTC-7, son_of_flubber wrote:
> On Friday, July 6, 2012 2:13:46 AM UTC-4, Darryl Ramm wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 5, 2012 9:00:57 PM UTC-7, son_of_flubber wrote:
> > > Just curious. Do the gliders in this video have FLARM? How well does it work in this sort of flying?
> >
> > OzFlarm is pretty popular in Australia, and use of flarm is mandatory for this Australian contest. But I'm curious what you meant by "this sort of flying". They are basically flying a contest, and the myriad possibilities that involves (large gaggles, leaching/following, buddy flying etc.). Or was there something specific you meant? <
>
> Nope. I'm a clueless newbie about contest flying. I read "Joey Glide Camp" (not Comp) and thought this was a training camp for young pilots. I'm vaguely aware that some contests nowadays deliberately increase separation between gliders, and I did not realize that people were still deliberately flying this close.
>
> I guess that the OZFlarm works pretty well? Is it common for the OZFlarm to prompt evasive moves in the circumstances shown in this video?

You'll see a lot of close flying and many larger gaggles in contests or even fun get together or buddy flying.

Just to be clear, Flarm only alerts you to possible collision threats, it does not direct an evasive moves. And a hugely important part of flarm's technology is that it uses the path of the other aircraft to try to predict what is a real collision threat, so you can be in some even relatively close spaced situation and the flarm is not distracting you with unnecessary alerts.

Yes OZflarm and other flarm products work pretty well, that is why there are over ten thousand of them installed worldwide and why finally getting flarm technology into the USA (and getting some of the teething problems with PowerFLARM shaken out here) is so important, for contest and non-contest pilots.

Darryl

g l i d e r s t u d
July 10th 12, 07:44 AM
Flarm was not used in this movie as a tool to decide when to take evasive action. Most of this video was on a scrubbed day and we were in radio contact with the camera ship.

Joey Glide is set up like a camp too. There were a lot of students there in two seaters. There was a lecture every evening along with a de-brief. It was incredibly well run and generously hosted by kingaroy soaring club.

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