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Paul Tomblin
December 4th 03, 05:21 PM
I can't remember if I posted this before. A guy in my club made a nice
little package for his WX Works setup. You can see some pictures at
http://xcski.com/gallery/wxworks

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Max T, CFI
December 4th 03, 06:18 PM
Thanks for posting. Still looks like a lot of wires!
I'm curious, what runs off the inverter and needs AC? I would have thought
that everything in the box would run off of 12 volts (though probably not off of 24
volts depending upon what plane they're in).
Max T, MCFI

Paul Tomblin > wrote in message ...
> I can't remember if I posted this before. A guy in my club made a nice
> little package for his WX Works setup. You can see some pictures at
> http://xcski.com/gallery/wxworks
>
> --
> Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
> I think it's a beautiful day to go to the zoo and feed the ducks.
> To the lions.
> -- Brian Kantor

Paul Tomblin
December 4th 03, 06:33 PM
In a previous article, "Max T, CFI" > said:
>Paul Tomblin > wrote in message
>> http://xcski.com/gallery/wxworks

>Thanks for posting. Still looks like a lot of wires!

There's only one "wire" coming out of the box, which branches off to the
USB port on the laptop, to the ships power (cigar lighter) and the single
antenna mount.


>I'm curious, what runs off the inverter and needs AC? I would have
>thought that everything in the box would run off of 12 volts (though
>probably not off of 24 volts depending upon what plane they're in).

If I'm reading the pictures correctly, I think that rather than attempting
to engineer a DC supply for the WX Works reciever that works directly off
the ships power, he's run the ships power into the inverter and plugged
the WXWorx "wall wart" power supply into that.

Somebody willing to cut wires and make their own power supplies could
probably make it much smaller, but I think one of Dave's goals was that he
could take the expensive stuff like the WxWorx receiver out of the box and
have it be as good as new.

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JerryK
December 4th 03, 11:45 PM
> If I'm reading the pictures correctly, I think that rather than attempting
> to engineer a DC supply for the WX Works reciever that works directly off
> the ships power, he's run the ships power into the inverter and plugged
> the WXWorx "wall wart" power supply into that.
>
> Somebody willing to cut wires and make their own power supplies could
> probably make it much smaller, but I think one of Dave's goals was that he
> could take the expensive stuff like the WxWorx receiver out of the box and
> have it be as good as new.
>

I am pretty sure the WxWrox unit runs on DC power. At least the one in my
friend's plane is plugged into the cigarette lighter.

Paul Tomblin
December 4th 03, 11:48 PM
In a previous article, "JerryK" > said:
>> If I'm reading the pictures correctly, I think that rather than attempting
>> to engineer a DC supply for the WX Works reciever that works directly off
>> the ships power, he's run the ships power into the inverter and plugged
>> the WXWorx "wall wart" power supply into that.
>I am pretty sure the WxWrox unit runs on DC power. At least the one in my

Yes, that's why he has a 9 volt DC power supply plugged into the inverter.

As I said already.


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ET
December 5th 03, 02:56 AM
(Paul Tomblin) wrote in
:

> In a previous article, "JerryK" > said:
>>> If I'm reading the pictures correctly, I think that rather than
>>> attempting to engineer a DC supply for the WX Works reciever that
>>> works directly off the ships power, he's run the ships power into
>>> the inverter and plugged the WXWorx "wall wart" power supply into
>>> that.
>>I am pretty sure the WxWrox unit runs on DC power. At least the one
>>in my
>
> Yes, that's why he has a 9 volt DC power supply plugged into the
> inverter.
>
> As I said already.
>
>

What the H@(( is it???? can someone point me to a primmer??? I googled for
pages & pages with no understanding.



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"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

plumb bob
December 5th 03, 03:16 AM
"ET" > wrote in message
...
> (Paul Tomblin) wrote in
> :
>
> > In a previous article, "JerryK" > said:
> >>> If I'm reading the pictures correctly, I think that rather than
> >>> attempting to engineer a DC supply for the WX Works reciever that
> >>> works directly off the ships power, he's run the ships power into
> >>> the inverter and plugged the WXWorx "wall wart" power supply into
> >>> that.
> >>I am pretty sure the WxWrox unit runs on DC power. At least the one
> >>in my
> >
> > Yes, that's why he has a 9 volt DC power supply plugged into the
> > inverter.
> >
> > As I said already.
> >
> >
>
> What the H@(( is it???? can someone point me to a primmer??? I googled for
> pages & pages with no understanding.

"primmer"??? Not "primer" either... <<the net police>> :-)

Main Entry: 2prim
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): prim·mer; prim·mest
Date: 1709
1 a : stiffly formal and proper : DECOROUS b : PRUDISH
2 : NEAT, TRIM <prim hedges>
- prim·ly adverb
- prim·ness noun

>
>
> --
> ET >:) (avaition newbie....)
>
>
> "A common mistake people make when trying to design something
> completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
> fools."---- Douglas Adams

Paul Tomblin
December 5th 03, 03:16 AM
In a previous article, ET > said:
>What the H@(( is it???? can someone point me to a primmer??? I googled for
>pages & pages with no understanding.

What are you asking? What WXWorx is? It's a XM satellite radio system
that lets you get real time weather in the cockpit.

http://www.wxworx.com/


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Andrew Gideon
December 5th 03, 05:38 PM
Paul Tomblin wrote:

> In a previous article, ET > said:
>>What the H@(( is it???? can someone point me to a primmer??? I googled for
>>pages & pages with no understanding.
>
> What are you asking? What WXWorx is? It's a XM satellite radio system
> that lets you get real time weather in the cockpit.
>
> http://www.wxworx.com/
>

No, he's asking what product gets weather using WXWorx and displays it on a
palmtop along with a moving map GPS and a backup AI. Anywhere's products
seem to do all this, but get weather with a satellite phone.

Oh, sorry...that's my question, not his.

<grin>.

- Andrew

Paul Tomblin
December 5th 03, 06:05 PM
In a previous article, Andrew Gideon > said:
>No, he's asking what product gets weather using WXWorx and displays it on a
>palmtop along with a moving map GPS and a backup AI. Anywhere's products
>seem to do all this, but get weather with a satellite phone.

Somebody at Oshkosh was demoing software for PocketPC that got weather
info from WXWorx. I wish I could remember who, but since I don't have a
PocketPC PDA I didn't pay that much attention.


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JerryK
December 6th 03, 07:33 AM
"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
...
> In a previous article, "JerryK" > said:
> >> If I'm reading the pictures correctly, I think that rather than
attempting
> >> to engineer a DC supply for the WX Works reciever that works directly
off
> >> the ships power, he's run the ships power into the inverter and plugged
> >> the WXWorx "wall wart" power supply into that.
> >I am pretty sure the WxWrox unit runs on DC power. At least the one in
my
>
> Yes, that's why he has a 9 volt DC power supply plugged into the inverter.
>
> As I said already.

But wait, he is going from 12 or 24 volts DC to 120 volts AC to 9 volts DC?
That just does not make sense. Go to Rat shack and get a universal voltage
convertor or build one yourself. Why go to AC?

Nathan Young
December 6th 03, 12:59 PM
(Paul Tomblin) wrote in message >...
> I can't remember if I posted this before. A guy in my club made a nice
> little package for his WX Works setup. You can see some pictures at
> http://xcski.com/gallery/wxworks

Before everyone freaks out - he's got a bunch of stuff in there that
you do not need for aircraft only operations. Like the Rat Shack 9V
AC-DC regulator, and the DC-AC Inverter.

-Nathan

Paul Tomblin
December 6th 03, 02:47 PM
In a previous article, (Nathan Young) said:
(Paul Tomblin) wrote in message
>...
>> I can't remember if I posted this before. A guy in my club made a nice
>> little package for his WX Works setup. You can see some pictures at
>> http://xcski.com/gallery/wxworks
>
>Before everyone freaks out - he's got a bunch of stuff in there that
>you do not need for aircraft only operations. Like the Rat Shack 9V
>AC-DC regulator, and the DC-AC Inverter.

You will note from the captions on the pictures that he's also got it set
up so he can plug it into the wall when he is on the ground. I'm not sure
why he has the Inverter, I'll ask him. I do know that one of his goals
was not to cut anything up (which is why he's got long coils of wire) so
he can take it out of the box and have it as good as new (and maybe resell
it).


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ET
December 6th 03, 06:47 PM
(Paul Tomblin) wrote in
:

> In a previous article, ET > said:
>>What the H@(( is it???? can someone point me to a primmer??? I googled
>>for pages & pages with no understanding.
>
> What are you asking? What WXWorx is? It's a XM satellite radio
> system that lets you get real time weather in the cockpit.
>
> http://www.wxworx.com/
>
>

Well THAT explains it.... searching for WxWorKS ... comes up with some
kind of computer language/hardware/etc..... WxWorX .... that explains it
completely.....

It's funny, .. the net nazie that corrected my spelling of primer with
primmer, didn't catch the mispelling in the original post that would
have obviously led me in the right direction....

Thanks

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insterted to drive net-nasi's crazy.... if it bothers you, go re-
arrainge and dust your toilet paper roll collection ... AGAIN....

ET >:)

"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

Paul Tomblin
December 6th 03, 06:48 PM
In a previous article, ET > said:
>> What are you asking? What WXWorx is? It's a XM satellite radio
>> system that lets you get real time weather in the cockpit.
>>
>> http://www.wxworx.com/
>
>Well THAT explains it.... searching for WxWorKS ... comes up with some
>kind of computer language/hardware/etc..... WxWorX .... that explains it
>completely.....

Yeah, I didn't look too carefully at the captions of the pictures before
posting. Sorry about that.

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ET
December 6th 03, 06:53 PM
"plumb bob" > wrote in
news:1MSzb.230836$Dw6.814259@attbi_s02:

>
> "ET" > wrote in message
> ...
>> (Paul Tomblin) wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > In a previous article, "JerryK" > said:
>> >>> If I'm reading the pictures correctly, I think that rather than
>> >>> attempting to engineer a DC supply for the WX Works reciever that
>> >>> works directly off the ships power, he's run the ships power into
>> >>> the inverter and plugged the WXWorx "wall wart" power supply into
>> >>> that.
>> >>I am pretty sure the WxWrox unit runs on DC power. At least the
>> >>one in my
>> >
>> > Yes, that's why he has a 9 volt DC power supply plugged into the
>> > inverter.
>> >
>> > As I said already.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> What the H@(( is it???? can someone point me to a primmer??? I
>> googled for pages & pages with no understanding.
>
> "primmer"??? Not "primer" either... <<the net police>> :-)
>
> Main Entry: 2prim
> Function: adjective
> Inflected Form(s): prim·mer; prim·mest
> Date: 1709
> 1 a : stiffly formal and proper : DECOROUS b : PRUDISH
> 2 : NEAT, TRIM <prim hedges>
> - prim·ly adverb
> - prim·ness noun
>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ET >:) (avaition newbie....)
>>
>>
>> "A common mistake people make when trying to design something
>> completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
>> fools."---- Douglas Adams
>
>

prim·er

n.

1) An elementary textbook for teaching children to read.
2) A book that covers the basic elements of a subject.


Obviously I was meaning primer.... with definition number 2....


Now go dust off your toilet paper roll collection.... and I think one of
them is out of place....
--
ET >:)


"A common mistake people make when trying to design something
completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete
fools."---- Douglas Adams

Nathan Young
December 8th 03, 04:23 AM
(Paul Tomblin) wrote in message >...
> In a previous article, (Nathan Young) said:
> (Paul Tomblin) wrote in message
> >...
> >> I can't remember if I posted this before. A guy in my club made a nice
> >> little package for his WX Works setup. You can see some pictures at
> >> http://xcski.com/gallery/wxworks
> >
> >Before everyone freaks out - he's got a bunch of stuff in there that
> >you do not need for aircraft only operations. Like the Rat Shack 9V
> >AC-DC regulator, and the DC-AC Inverter.
>
> You will note from the captions on the pictures that he's also got it set
> up so he can plug it into the wall when he is on the ground. I'm not sure
> why he has the Inverter, I'll ask him.

A lot of laptops take 16VDC as their power source, something not
readily available in the plane - so perhaps he is using the inverter
to power the AC-DC converter that powers the laptop? Sounds a bit
cumbersome, but it would work, and is more readily available than
finding a 12V->16V DC switcher.

-Nathan

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