Flying into Las Vegas

[Casey Wilson]

I've been asked to pick up my grandson's friend in Las Vegas at LAS on
Dec. 26. I'll be motoring down in a C-172SP, strictly VFR. I haven't landed
at LAS since long before they built a terminal -- back when the Hacienda
would send a limo over to pick me up for lunch and take me back to the
plane.
Any suggestions on convenient plaace to meet? Landing Fees? Other
points to consider? I'd rather make the pickup at VGT (North Las Vegas), but
that seems to be nixed.
If it gets too hard, I'll scrub in a New York minute.

[Jeff]

How about henderson (HND), its below the LAS class B and you wont have to hassle
with the LAS controllers. HND now has 2 runways, a 6000 ft and a 5000 ft, its
about 7 miles south of LAS (flying), driving, its just off south las vegas blvd.

I live near Henderson, but base my plane out of VGT . Hendrson is much easier to
get in and out of if your coming from california or arizona. here is some info
on HND
http://www.airnav.com/airport/khnd



Casey Wilson wrote:

> I've been asked to pick up my grandson's friend in Las Vegas at LAS on
> Dec. 26. I'll be motoring down in a C-172SP, strictly VFR. I haven't landed
> at LAS since long before they built a terminal -- back when the Hacienda
> would send a limo over to pick me up for lunch and take me back to the
> plane.
> Any suggestions on convenient plaace to meet? Landing Fees? Other
> points to consider? I'd rather make the pickup at VGT (North Las Vegas), but
> that seems to be nixed.
> If it gets too hard, I'll scrub in a New York minute.

[Martin Hotze]

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 06:03:18 GMT, Casey Wilson wrote:

> I've been asked to pick up my grandson's friend in Las Vegas at LAS on
>Dec. 26. I'll be motoring down in a C-172SP, strictly VFR. I haven't landed
>at LAS since long before they built a terminal -- back when the Hacienda
>would send a limo over to pick me up for lunch and take me back to the
>plane.
> Any suggestions on convenient plaace to meet? Landing Fees? Other
>points to consider? I'd rather make the pickup at VGT (North Las Vegas), but
>that seems to be nixed.

Henderson (as was pointed out) or VGT are a good option when travelling to
the airport is not a problem. when you have to be close to the strip you
might fly into LAS.
thre are 2 FBOs at LAS, one beeing Signature and I forgot the name of the
other one.
Flying into LAS was a no-brainer, been there with a C172 and a C182.
Handling fee of about $10 was waived when refueling (don't know about your
requirements and your legs outbound of Las Vegas). Signature is on the
south end of the rwy, so if you want there plan your landing accordingly
(long/short landing), same applies for the other FBO. Else it would be a
loooong taxiing. Departing brings you in touch with delivery (then ground,
etc.). So be prepared for that, but not a problem at all.

Flying into LAS is very easy, plan to come in over the dam, over the lake,
and then along the corridor, next left for final :-)

Which airport you take might also be depending of where you come form and
where you are going to.

> If it gets too hard, I'll scrub in a New York minute.

what's a NY minute?

#m

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[Larry Dighera]

On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 06:03:18 GMT, "Casey Wilson" >
wrote in Message-Id: >:

> I've been asked to pick up my grandson's friend in Las Vegas at LAS on
>Dec. 26. I'll be motoring down in a C-172SP, strictly VFR. I haven't landed
>at LAS since long before they built a terminal -- back when the Hacienda
>would send a limo over to pick me up for lunch and take me back to the
>plane.
> Any suggestions on convenient plaace to meet? Landing Fees? Other
>points to consider?

Have your passenger meet you at the Executive Terminal: (702)
736-1830. It's located in NW corner of the field west of threshold of
19R. There shouldn't be any fees for a short passenger pickup, but
call first.

Arriving: Check ATIS 40 mi out132.4, contact approach control on 125.9
from the south or west, 119.4 from the east for clearance into Class
B. Expect vectors over the numbers of runways 25 for landing on
runway 19R. Check your Flight Guide, or Jepp plates for more detail.

When you drop your passenger off back at the Exec Terminal, there's a
free shuttle bus.

[Thomas Borchert]

Martin,

> what's a NY minute?
>

A very, very short minute.

A Midwesterner is on his first trip to NY. As he wanders through the
city, he is looking for the sights to see. He stops a passer-by and
asks: "Excuse me, Sir, could you please tell me where the Empire State
Building is, or should I just go f... myself?" That's New York!

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Maule Driver]

> > what's a NY minute?
> A very, very short minute.
>
> A Midwesterner is on his first trip to NY. As he wanders through the
> city, he is looking for the sights to see. He stops a passer-by and
> asks: "Excuse me, Sir, could you please tell me where the Empire State
> Building is, or should I just go f... myself?" That's New York!
>
Funny example! Reality is that the mythical NY'er would have turned away
and been down the street before the punch line.

When this midwesterner (Pittsburgh) moved to NYC I was a bit put off by
people walking away from me when I asked directions. I soon learned to
shorten my requests to "where's the Empire State Building" and found that
people would not only tell me but were as likely to walk down the block with
me to make sure I wouldn't get lost.. Pretty soon I learned to ignore
"excuse me" requests too because that's how scam artists and beggars start
their pitch.

Now that I'm 'down south' in NC, I've had to unlearn what I grew up with in
Pittsburgh and learned in NY. The key here is to start with a "How are you
this morning", then wait for an answer, then ask for help. Shortening any
of this dialog marks you as one of those damn NYers.

In the end, people seem the same but they just like to move at different
speeds.

[lance smith]

> > what's a NY minute?
> A very, very short minute.
>
> A Midwesterner is on his first trip to NY. As he wanders through the
> city, he is looking for the sights to see. He stops a passer-by and
> asks: "Excuse me, Sir, could you please tell me where the Empire State
> Building is, or should I just go f... myself?" That's New York!


The first time I was in NY my friends and I were lost and were looking
for something to eat (on the way to a Yankees game). We were walking
by a firehouse and decided to ask for help:

us: Howdy! (pause) How's it going?
firemen: (wierd look) ok
us: Can you help us out? We're looking for a decent place to eat,
pizza maybe and directions to the subway. We're going to the Yankees
game.
firemen: You're not from around here are you?
us: uh...no. We're from California. Why?
firemen: Because you talk to slow. And too nice.
us: errr...
firemen: Here in NY you say "Yo- where's the nearest pizza joint"

So they then proceeded to give us a brief tutorial on how to act in
NY. Nice guys, in a NY sort of way : )

-lance smith

[JerryK]

The Las Vegas Executive Terminal is a good place to meet. It is on the
strip side of the field, behind MGM. They have a landing fee, but it is
waived with gas purchase. But gas is expensive ($3.80/gal). So they get
your money one way or another. The Executive Terminal also has a shuttle
that will run you around and a little deli.

jerry

"Casey Wilson" > wrote in message
...
> I've been asked to pick up my grandson's friend in Las Vegas at LAS on
> Dec. 26. I'll be motoring down in a C-172SP, strictly VFR. I haven't
landed
> at LAS since long before they built a terminal -- back when the Hacienda
> would send a limo over to pick me up for lunch and take me back to the
> plane.
> Any suggestions on convenient plaace to meet? Landing Fees? Other
> points to consider? I'd rather make the pickup at VGT (North Las Vegas),
but
> that seems to be nixed.
> If it gets too hard, I'll scrub in a New York minute.
>
>

[BTIZ]

any reason why it has to be LAS? and not HND or VGT?

where are you coming in from...

be prepared to pay a bit more in fuel at LAS rather than VGT or HND.. the
two "FOBs" on the field cater more to "higher type aircraft" but there are
all types around.. Most prefer Eagle on the north end, and it is walking
distance to the MGM Grand..

$ignature is nearer the south end (Rwy 1-19).

BT

"Casey Wilson" > wrote in message
...
> I've been asked to pick up my grandson's friend in Las Vegas at LAS on
> Dec. 26. I'll be motoring down in a C-172SP, strictly VFR. I haven't
landed
> at LAS since long before they built a terminal -- back when the Hacienda
> would send a limo over to pick me up for lunch and take me back to the
> plane.
> Any suggestions on convenient plaace to meet? Landing Fees? Other
> points to consider? I'd rather make the pickup at VGT (North Las Vegas),
but
> that seems to be nixed.
> If it gets too hard, I'll scrub in a New York minute.
>
>

[Casey Wilson]

"BTIZ" > wrote in message
news:F69Bb.17127$yf.4051@fed1read01...
> any reason why it has to be LAS? and not HND or VGT?
>
> where are you coming in from...
>
> be prepared to pay a bit more in fuel at LAS rather than VGT or HND.. the
> two "FOBs" on the field cater more to "higher type aircraft" but there are
> all types around.. Most prefer Eagle on the north end, and it is walking
> distance to the MGM Grand..
>
My passenger is an unescorted young person flying into LAS from NoCal.
He's a smart kid and I think explicit instructions for moving about on
airport shuttles is reasonable but I share the parent's concern about
transfer from LAS to either VGT or HND.
I'll be flying down from St. George, Utah, KSGU, with my grandson for
the pickup. It looks like an easy flight. Mr. Dighera's notes look pretty
good to me.
I'll be calling the Executive Terminal tomorrow to find out about
shuttle's. I intend to ask them a favor and maybe run over to the terminal
and pick the lad up. It will probably work out that we'll have him hang out
at the terminal. We'll park the airplane at Exec and go over and get him
ourselves. My 'wet' rental is good for $3.75/gal, so buying gas isn't a big
deal -- although I don't think I'll burn ten gallons.
I guess one of the motivations for making the run is because my grandson
asked me if he could go along -- how can you turn that down -- especially
when his mother is the one that suggested it.
Now if the weather will just cooperate......

Thanks all for the replies,

Casey

[BTIZ]

all sounds like an excellent plan... the distance around the airport..
you'll need a courtesy shuttle or a cheap cab ride..

Short Trip from Steerage to LAS, just start talking early to the Nellis
Controllers for Class B clearances.. hard to tell if they'll take you east
or west of Nellis, but the standard IFR arrival from StGeorge/Mesquite would
be east.

Hope the weather serves..

Bill

"Casey Wilson" > wrote in message
...
>
> "BTIZ" > wrote in message
> news:F69Bb.17127$yf.4051@fed1read01...
> > any reason why it has to be LAS? and not HND or VGT?
> >
> > where are you coming in from...
> >
> > be prepared to pay a bit more in fuel at LAS rather than VGT or HND..
the
> > two "FOBs" on the field cater more to "higher type aircraft" but there
are
> > all types around.. Most prefer Eagle on the north end, and it is walking
> > distance to the MGM Grand..
> >
> My passenger is an unescorted young person flying into LAS from NoCal.
> He's a smart kid and I think explicit instructions for moving about on
> airport shuttles is reasonable but I share the parent's concern about
> transfer from LAS to either VGT or HND.
> I'll be flying down from St. George, Utah, KSGU, with my grandson for
> the pickup. It looks like an easy flight. Mr. Dighera's notes look pretty
> good to me.
> I'll be calling the Executive Terminal tomorrow to find out about
> shuttle's. I intend to ask them a favor and maybe run over to the terminal
> and pick the lad up. It will probably work out that we'll have him hang
out
> at the terminal. We'll park the airplane at Exec and go over and get him
> ourselves. My 'wet' rental is good for $3.75/gal, so buying gas isn't a
big
> deal -- although I don't think I'll burn ten gallons.
> I guess one of the motivations for making the run is because my
grandson
> asked me if he could go along -- how can you turn that down -- especially
> when his mother is the one that suggested it.
> Now if the weather will just cooperate......
>
> Thanks all for the replies,
>
> Casey
>
>
>

[BTIZ]

sorry.. the spell checker corrected StGeorge to Steerage...

so you now live in Steerage UT..

BT

"BTIZ" > wrote in message
news:nIcBb.17201$yf.13870@fed1read01...
> all sounds like an excellent plan... the distance around the airport..
> you'll need a courtesy shuttle or a cheap cab ride..
>
> Short Trip from Steerage to LAS, just start talking early to the Nellis
> Controllers for Class B clearances.. hard to tell if they'll take you east
> or west of Nellis, but the standard IFR arrival from StGeorge/Mesquite
would
> be east.
>
> Hope the weather serves..
>
> Bill
>
> "Casey Wilson" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "BTIZ" > wrote in message
> > news:F69Bb.17127$yf.4051@fed1read01...
> > > any reason why it has to be LAS? and not HND or VGT?
> > >
> > > where are you coming in from...
> > >
> > > be prepared to pay a bit more in fuel at LAS rather than VGT or HND..
> the
> > > two "FOBs" on the field cater more to "higher type aircraft" but there
> are
> > > all types around.. Most prefer Eagle on the north end, and it is
walking
> > > distance to the MGM Grand..
> > >
> > My passenger is an unescorted young person flying into LAS from
NoCal.
> > He's a smart kid and I think explicit instructions for moving about on
> > airport shuttles is reasonable but I share the parent's concern about
> > transfer from LAS to either VGT or HND.
> > I'll be flying down from St. George, Utah, KSGU, with my grandson
for
> > the pickup. It looks like an easy flight. Mr. Dighera's notes look
pretty
> > good to me.
> > I'll be calling the Executive Terminal tomorrow to find out about
> > shuttle's. I intend to ask them a favor and maybe run over to the
terminal
> > and pick the lad up. It will probably work out that we'll have him hang
> out
> > at the terminal. We'll park the airplane at Exec and go over and get him
> > ourselves. My 'wet' rental is good for $3.75/gal, so buying gas isn't a
> big
> > deal -- although I don't think I'll burn ten gallons.
> > I guess one of the motivations for making the run is because my
> grandson
> > asked me if he could go along -- how can you turn that down --
especially
> > when his mother is the one that suggested it.
> > Now if the weather will just cooperate......
> >
> > Thanks all for the replies,
> >
> > Casey
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Jeff]

St George is a short hop, easy flight, I do it all the time, they have a great
restaurant there. Really good view.
My wife is wanting to look at some land (5 acre plots) about 5 miles outside of
St george between there and cedar city

Overton is where I usually call LAS to let them know where I am and where I am
going. If you have problems getting in touch with LAS you can call Nellis AFB
and they will clear you into the LAS class B


Casey Wilson wrote:

> "BTIZ" > wrote in message
> news:F69Bb.17127$yf.4051@fed1read01...
> > any reason why it has to be LAS? and not HND or VGT?
> >
> > where are you coming in from...
> >
> > be prepared to pay a bit more in fuel at LAS rather than VGT or HND.. the
> > two "FOBs" on the field cater more to "higher type aircraft" but there are
> > all types around.. Most prefer Eagle on the north end, and it is walking
> > distance to the MGM Grand..
> >
> My passenger is an unescorted young person flying into LAS from NoCal.
> He's a smart kid and I think explicit instructions for moving about on
> airport shuttles is reasonable but I share the parent's concern about
> transfer from LAS to either VGT or HND.
> I'll be flying down from St. George, Utah, KSGU, with my grandson for
> the pickup. It looks like an easy flight. Mr. Dighera's notes look pretty
> good to me.
> I'll be calling the Executive Terminal tomorrow to find out about
> shuttle's. I intend to ask them a favor and maybe run over to the terminal
> and pick the lad up. It will probably work out that we'll have him hang out
> at the terminal. We'll park the airplane at Exec and go over and get him
> ourselves. My 'wet' rental is good for $3.75/gal, so buying gas isn't a big
> deal -- although I don't think I'll burn ten gallons.
> I guess one of the motivations for making the run is because my grandson
> asked me if he could go along -- how can you turn that down -- especially
> when his mother is the one that suggested it.
> Now if the weather will just cooperate......
>
> Thanks all for the replies,
>
> Casey

[Jeff]

There are no VFR corridors through the LAS class B, there are two VFR arrivals and
departures, but no VFR corridors.

They have never put me out over the lake except one time when I was coming into VGT
from phoenix on an IFR flight plan, when comming in from st george I call them from
overton, the easiest and fastest thing would be for them to give him a right base
for 25 since he will already be lined up for it instead of putting him out over
boulder city or the lake where he will be holding up the big guys.

Martin Hotze wrote:

> "Casey Wilson" > wrote:
>
> > I'll be flying down from St. George, Utah, KSGU, with my grandson for
> > the pickup. It looks like an easy flight.
>
> it shouldn't be much of a problem coming down from St. George, weather
> permitting. just drop in over the lake and follow the VR corridors in the Class
> B airspace of LAS.
>
> #m
> --
> Politician never lie. They just tell their own truth.
> (Dave in r.a.p.)

[Thomas Borchert]

Martin,

why would you want to do the detour over the lake? Just go slightly
east of Fallon's airspace.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

[Casey Wilson]

"BTIZ" > wrote in message
news:LOcBb.17203$yf.12406@fed1read01...
> sorry.. the spell checker corrected StGeorge to Steerage...
>
> so you now live in Steerage UT..
>
Akshully, I'm in Ridgecrest, CA, and fly out of Edwards, AFB
(Edwards Aeroclub). I'll be in Steerage for the Christmas Holidays, myself.