Wingo BWB aircraft

[Neal Fulco]

I think I posted this message to the wrong group, so if you see it
twice...my mistake. My question is: What's the status of the Wingo
blended wing aircraft. They haven't been updating their website. The
last photo posted shows "repairs" being made. Anybody know what
happened to the plane? Thanks


Neal

[Richard Riley]

On 29 Jan 2004 19:51:12 -0800, (Neal Fulco) wrote:

:I think I posted this message to the wrong group, so if you see it
:twice...my mistake. My question is: What's the status of the Wingo
:blended wing aircraft. They haven't been updating their website. The
:last photo posted shows "repairs" being made. Anybody know what
:happened to the plane? Thanks

On first flight he had an uncontrolled... well, pretty much
everything. He couldn't get the nose off the ground, when he did it
was wildly overcontrolled in pitch. He managed to get it more or
less horizontal about the same time it hit the ground. I wouldn't
count on it ever flying again.

[Holger Stephan]

Richard Riley wrote:
> On first flight he had an uncontrolled... well, pretty much
> everything. He couldn't get the nose off the ground, when he did it
> was wildly overcontrolled in pitch. He managed to get it more or
> less horizontal about the same time it hit the ground. I wouldn't
> count on it ever flying again.

I don't get it - I thought he had it designed AND tested in X-Plane.

Well ok, here goes the smiley :)

- Holger

[Richard Riley]

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 13:25:54 -0800, Holger Stephan
> wrote:

:Richard Riley wrote:
:> On first flight he had an uncontrolled... well, pretty much
:> everything. He couldn't get the nose off the ground, when he did it
:> was wildly overcontrolled in pitch. He managed to get it more or
:> less horizontal about the same time it hit the ground. I wouldn't
:> count on it ever flying again.
:
:I don't get it - I thought he had it designed AND tested in X-Plane.
:
:Well ok, here goes the smiley :)

Yes, it's a great mystery. As we all know, computers never make a
mistake.

And a consumer level computer program can be used to simulate
extrememly complex systems that (when not fully understood) result in
loss of life. I understand that the Marines used "Sim City" to plan
the invasion of Bagdhad.

Hopefully, he'll get the airplane back in the air and we can.....

Oh, never mind, I can't do it with a straight face. :)

RR

[Jay]

Wierd coincidence, I was just flying that plane last nite on X-Plane
and it did the same to me when I was trying to take-off. Don't know
why, could have been anything since I didn't bother to understand any
of the controls before I applied full throttle. Figured I'd I learn
as I accelerated.


Richard Riley > wrote in message >...
> On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 13:25:54 -0800, Holger Stephan
> > wrote:
>
> :Richard Riley wrote:
> :> On first flight he had an uncontrolled... well, pretty much
> :> everything. He couldn't get the nose off the ground, when he did it
> :> was wildly overcontrolled in pitch. He managed to get it more or
> :> less horizontal about the same time it hit the ground. I wouldn't
> :> count on it ever flying again.
> :
> :I don't get it - I thought he had it designed AND tested in X-Plane.
> :
> :Well ok, here goes the smiley :)
>
> Yes, it's a great mystery. As we all know, computers never make a
> mistake.
>
> And a consumer level computer program can be used to simulate
> extrememly complex systems that (when not fully understood) result in
> loss of life. I understand that the Marines used "Sim City" to plan
> the invasion of Bagdhad.
>
> Hopefully, he'll get the airplane back in the air and we can.....
>
> Oh, never mind, I can't do it with a straight face. :)
>
> RR

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Didn't it have a lot of auto stabilization turned on in xplane?
I recall seeing that and how it wallowed around.

Q



On 2 Feb 2004 09:23:19 -0800, (Jay) wrote:

>Wierd coincidence, I was just flying that plane last nite on X-Plane
>and it did the same to me when I was trying to take-off. Don't know
>why, could have been anything since I didn't bother to understand any
>of the controls before I applied full throttle. Figured I'd I learn
>as I accelerated.
>
>
>Richard Riley > wrote in message >...
>> On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 13:25:54 -0800, Holger Stephan
>> > wrote:
>>
>> :Richard Riley wrote:
>> :> On first flight he had an uncontrolled... well, pretty much
>> :> everything. He couldn't get the nose off the ground, when he did it
>> :> was wildly overcontrolled in pitch. He managed to get it more or
>> :> less horizontal about the same time it hit the ground. I wouldn't
>> :> count on it ever flying again.
>> :
>> :I don't get it - I thought he had it designed AND tested in X-Plane.
>> :
>> :Well ok, here goes the smiley :)
>>
>> Yes, it's a great mystery. As we all know, computers never make a
>> mistake.
>>
>> And a consumer level computer program can be used to simulate
>> extrememly complex systems that (when not fully understood) result in
>> loss of life. I understand that the Marines used "Sim City" to plan
>> the invasion of Bagdhad.
>>
>> Hopefully, he'll get the airplane back in the air and we can.....
>>
>> Oh, never mind, I can't do it with a straight face. :)
>>
>> RR

[Greg Reid]

I followed the Atlantica newsgroup "forever" -- pretty much from its
inception -- visited the shop in Melbourne, signed up for a
delivery/interest position (no charge), met Allan and his father,
drooled on the prototype, kicked tires, etc. I had high hopes for
this revolutionary bird, and still think it has a future ... but too
far away for ME to wait for, so I've been building something else.

I'd just like to correct a possible misunderstanding above:

>> On first flight he had an uncontrolled... well, pretty much
everything. He couldn't get the nose off the ground, when he did it
was wildly overcontrolled in pitch. He managed to get it more or
less horizontal about the same time it hit the ground.

The first flight wasn't INTENDED to be a first flight at all. It was
just another in a long series of high-speed taxi tests, when a big
gust of wind picked it up, and Allan found himself 20 feet above the
runway. He admits that he shouldn't have been taxiing on such a gusty
day -- and certainly should've been fully prepared to go flying in any
case -- but it wasn't an intentional first flight. Thank goodness
(and the sturdy construction) that he didn't hurt himself.

Greg

[DJFawcett26]

>The first flight wasn't INTENDED to be a first flight at all. It was
>just another in a long series of high-speed taxi tests, when a big
>gust of wind picked it up, and Allan found himself 20 feet above the
>runway. He admits that he shouldn't have been taxiing on such a gusty
>day -- and certainly should've been fully prepared to go flying in any
>case -- but it wasn't an intentional first flight. Thank goodness
>(and the sturdy construction) that he didn't hurt himself.

The gust of wind should not have been an issue. How many planes take off in
gusty conditions? Answer is simple ....... pretty much all of them, and they
certainly don't exhibit stability deficiencies. The reality is that he was
attempting to rotate far above "flying speed". Any perturbation, whether it be
a bump in the runway or gust of wind, brought the nose up and he was on a wild,
and apparently unstable ride. And you are right, thank goodness he didn't
seriously hurt himself.