Flying and the New Family

[Marco Leon]

Hi all. I've noticed a considerable decrease in flight hours since my son
was born a little over a year ago. My wife is also 5 months pregnant with
another so flying time may suffer further decline. I'm wondering...what are
some of your experiences during the life-changing event of a new family and
flying? Did you start flying more often after the kids hit a certain age?
What did you do to find more time?

I found that I can get *some* more flying in by waking up at 5:30 Saturday
morning or flying after 10 PM on other nights. Don't get me wrong, I love my
family and thank God for everything but darnit, I love flying too!

Thoughts?

Regards,

Marco



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[Jay Honeck]

> Thoughts?

Take 'em along!

My son has been flying since he was a toddler, and my daughter has flown
since birth. It's somewhat of a military operation, getting them loaded in
the plane -- but that's no different then EVERYTHING else in your life, with
little kids.

Just takes more planning....

And it *does* pass. To be replaced by whining, which, in turn, is
supplanted by surliness.

I can hardly wait to see what's next! :-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jim]

Make an agreement with your wife. Agree upon one time per week that is your
flying time. If she objects, offer her the same amount of time to do
something by herself while you watch the kids. Works pretty good for me.
My wife goes to school 2 nights per week, I teach a ground school 2 nights
per week. One of those nights we are both gone and a babysitter is offered
up as a sacrifice to our two wonderful cannibalistic children. I also get
to hang out at the airport Sunday mornings and/or fly, some of which my son
accompanies me.
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"Marco Leon" <mleon(at)optonline.net> wrote in message
...
> Hi all. I've noticed a considerable decrease in flight hours since my son
> was born a little over a year ago. My wife is also 5 months pregnant with
> another so flying time may suffer further decline. I'm wondering...what
are
> some of your experiences during the life-changing event of a new family
and
> flying? Did you start flying more often after the kids hit a certain age?
> What did you do to find more time?
>
> I found that I can get *some* more flying in by waking up at 5:30 Saturday
> morning or flying after 10 PM on other nights. Don't get me wrong, I love
my
> family and thank God for everything but darnit, I love flying too!
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
>
> Marco
>
>
>
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[Don Tuite]

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:08:30 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote:

>I can hardly wait to see what's next! :-)

They go away, and you wonder: "The first twenty years of *my* life
took a century to happen; how could theirs have gone by so fast?"

Don

[Jim]

Yep, bundle them up, transfer everything from your minivan to the airplane,
and take 'em along. Just like travelling in a car, you'll figure out what
you need to take and what you don't.


you forgot fighting in between the whinning and the surliness.... but
nothing a few minutes outside in a chilly Wisconsin winter doesn't solve in
a hurry... summer time the garden hose can always come out :) nahhh.... I
wouldn't do that! <evil grin>
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"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
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> > Thoughts?
>
> Take 'em along!
>
> My son has been flying since he was a toddler, and my daughter has flown
> since birth. It's somewhat of a military operation, getting them loaded
in
> the plane -- but that's no different then EVERYTHING else in your life,
with
> little kids.
>
> Just takes more planning....
>
> And it *does* pass. To be replaced by whining, which, in turn, is
> supplanted by surliness.
>
> I can hardly wait to see what's next! :-)
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[Jim]

lol don't worry... they'll come back... Christmas is coming ;)
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"Don Tuite" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:08:30 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> > wrote:
>
> >I can hardly wait to see what's next! :-)
>
> They go away, and you wonder: "The first twenty years of *my* life
> took a century to happen; how could theirs have gone by so fast?"
>
> Don

[Maule Driver]

We don't have kids but when were in our 20s and 30s it was hard for us to
imagine doing anything that would impact flying (glider racing) time.

More recently, we spent 4-5 years aggressively using our Maule to travel to
see friends and recreate *every* weekend. Lot's of flying and lots of fun.

Now we aren't glilder flying. Now we are flying the Maule twice a month ...
mostly.
But do we feel like we are losing our love for flying? Not a bit. Stuff
changes. Now our flying is fully integrated into our life and therefore it
changes just like our lives do. Big difference now is there are no regrets,
no fear.

I can only imagine that kids and a growing family changes everything. So I
guess one has to just let it change and not worry about the flying - it will
find its natural role in one's life.

Jack Nicholson in the this month's 50th anniversary issue of Playboy (I only
get it for the articles...not) said, "When people are worried about having
kids, I always say, 'Don't worry about it, because this is natures's only
guaranteed, bon fide upside surprise' ".

"Marco Leon" <mleon(at)optonline.net> wrote in message
...
> Hi all. I've noticed a considerable decrease in flight hours since my son
> was born a little over a year ago. My wife is also 5 months pregnant with
> another so flying time may suffer further decline. I'm wondering...what
are
> some of your experiences during the life-changing event of a new family
and
> flying? Did you start flying more often after the kids hit a certain age?
> What did you do to find more time?
>
> I found that I can get *some* more flying in by waking up at 5:30 Saturday
> morning or flying after 10 PM on other nights. Don't get me wrong, I love
my
> family and thank God for everything but darnit, I love flying too!
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
>
> Marco
>
>
>
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[Joe Johnson]

Roger that, Don. Where the hell does the time go?

"Don Tuite" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:08:30 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> > wrote:
>
> >I can hardly wait to see what's next! :-)
>
> They go away, and you wonder: "The first twenty years of *my* life
> took a century to happen; how could theirs have gone by so fast?"
>
> Don

[Jim]

> More recently, we spent 4-5 years aggressively using our Maule to travel
to
> see friends and recreate *every* weekend. Lot's of flying and lots of
fun.
>
Huh? recreate every weekend??!! now THAT is a short gestation period!! I
thought our first one popped out early at only 7 1/2 months!
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[Nasir]

"Jim" > wrote in message
...
> > More recently, we spent 4-5 years aggressively using our Maule to travel
> to
> > see friends and recreate *every* weekend. Lot's of flying and lots of
> fun.
> >
> Huh? recreate every weekend??!! now THAT is a short gestation period!! I
> thought our first one popped out early at only 7 1/2 months!

I think he meant REcreate (as in recreation), not PROcreate..or did I miss
the joke completely?

Nasir

[Maule Driver]

"Nasir" >
> "Jim" > wrote in message
> ...
> > > More recently, we spent 4-5 years aggressively using our Maule to
travel
> > to
> > > see friends and recreate *every* weekend. Lot's of flying and lots of
> > fun.
> > >
> > Huh? recreate every weekend??!! now THAT is a short gestation period!!
I
> > thought our first one popped out early at only 7 1/2 months!
>
> I think he meant REcreate (as in recreation), not PROcreate..or did I miss
> the joke completely?
>
Thank you - that's what I meant. However now that you mention it,
unsuccessful procreation is recreation. A worthy Maule mission.

re-create requires the hyphen Jim :-)

[John T]

"Jim" > wrote in message

>
> lol don't worry... they'll come back... Christmas is coming ;)

Here I was thinking you were going to say "they'll come back...right after
graduation".

I'm thinking of leaving no forwarding address after mine heads off to
college... :)

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John T
http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
____________________

[EDR]

Marco,
I went from 150 hours, the year before my first child was born, to 17
the year after he was born. My second child was born a year and a half
later. My log book shows 16, 5, 3, 25, 13, 18, 40, 39, 93, 81, and 77
so far this year. The years with 13 and 18 were spent outside the
continental USA. As the children got older, the time to go flying
became more available. As you can see from the last three years, the
hours have gone up as family travel increased. The last three years
have been almost exclusively high performance rental ($100+), so as the
aircraft speed went up, the travel time went down.

My situation is different. I have been MR MOM since my second child was
born and I have a spouse that travelled as part of her job, so I was on
call 24/7, so to speak. I wouldn't trade my experience for anything,
though!

When my wife's father died out of state, a friend loaned me his
airplane to get my wife to her mother's side. The kids were 4 and 2, it
was the second child's first flight. For the trip home, I gave each of
the kids a grease pencil and they had fun drawing on the rear windows
for and hour and a half. After that trip, every time we drove past the
airport, the 2 year old would gleefully ask, "Daddy, are we going
flying again?" Music to my ears!

[Gene Seibel]

Take the kids and go flying. A day flying to some historic or
interesting spot is worth 2 weeks in school.
--
Gene Seibel
Hangar 131 - http://pad39a.com/gene/plane.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.


"Marco Leon" <mleon(at)optonline.net> wrote in message >...
> Hi all. I've noticed a considerable decrease in flight hours since my son
> was born a little over a year ago. My wife is also 5 months pregnant with
> another so flying time may suffer further decline. I'm wondering...what are
> some of your experiences during the life-changing event of a new family and
> flying? Did you start flying more often after the kids hit a certain age?
> What did you do to find more time?
>
> I found that I can get *some* more flying in by waking up at 5:30 Saturday
> morning or flying after 10 PM on other nights. Don't get me wrong, I love my
> family and thank God for everything but darnit, I love flying too!
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Regards,
>
> Marco
>
>
>
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[Jim]

LMAO! I've threatened to give mine our house the day the oldest turns
18.... and then RUN!
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"John T" > wrote in message
ws.com...
> "Jim" > wrote in message
>
> >
> > lol don't worry... they'll come back... Christmas is coming ;)
>
> Here I was thinking you were going to say "they'll come back...right after
> graduation".
>
> I'm thinking of leaving no forwarding address after mine heads off to
> college... :)
>
> --
> John T
> http://tknowlogy.com/TknoFlyer
> ____________________
>
>

[G.R. Patterson III]

John T wrote:
>
> I'm thinking of leaving no forwarding address after mine heads off to
> college... :)

We're moving to Carolina shortly after my stepson heads to college.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

[Maule Driver]

So where are you planning to park the Maule?

"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> John T wrote:
> >
> > I'm thinking of leaving no forwarding address after mine heads off to
> > college... :)
>
> We're moving to Carolina shortly after my stepson heads to college.
>
> George Patterson
> Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually
said is
> "Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

[G.R. Patterson III]

Maule Driver wrote:
>
> So where are you planning to park the Maule?

Dunno yet. We expect to be in the area near Asheville and hope to have a small
farm. Most of the flat land around there is vertical, however, so having our
own field won't be in it.

I may not have it by that time anyway. The savings account keeps shrinking, and
my current plans are to get the top of the wings painted in a month or two, get
an annual inspection, and sell it. Maybe a job will come through before then,
though.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

[Maule Driver]

Beautiful country up there and great people. Good luck.

We'll sweat it out down in the piedmont in the mean time.

"G.R. Patterson III" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Maule Driver wrote:
> >
> > So where are you planning to park the Maule?
>
> Dunno yet. We expect to be in the area near Asheville and hope to have a
small
> farm. Most of the flat land around there is vertical, however, so having
our
> own field won't be in it.
>
> I may not have it by that time anyway. The savings account keeps
shrinking, and
> my current plans are to get the top of the wings painted in a month or
two, get
> an annual inspection, and sell it. Maybe a job will come through before
then,
> though.
>
> George Patterson
> Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually
said is
> "Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

[G.R. Patterson III]

Maule Driver wrote:
>
> We'll sweat it out down in the piedmont in the mean time.

That's also nice territory. My father was from Hickory, and I still have kin
in Catawba county.

George Patterson
Great discoveries are not announced with "Eureka!". What's usually said is
"Hummmmm... That's interesting...."

[Marco L]

That sounds like what my logbook will look like in a couple of years. Thanks
for the story. I am hoping to take my son up soon but I want to wait until
he either keeps his earplugs in or keeps a headset on his head. At 1 year
and 4 months it's damn near impossible unless he's sleeping.

Living on the approach end of one of the airport's runways, my wife and I
have already conditioned him to point to every airplane and wave to it as it
goes by. He does it quite a bit considering how busy my airport is.

Regards,

Marco


"EDR" > wrote in message
...
>
> Marco,
> I went from 150 hours, the year before my first child was born, to 17
> the year after he was born. My second child was born a year and a half
> later. My log book shows 16, 5, 3, 25, 13, 18, 40, 39, 93, 81, and 77
> so far this year. The years with 13 and 18 were spent outside the
> continental USA. As the children got older, the time to go flying
> became more available. As you can see from the last three years, the
> hours have gone up as family travel increased. The last three years
> have been almost exclusively high performance rental ($100+), so as the
> aircraft speed went up, the travel time went down.
>
> My situation is different. I have been MR MOM since my second child was
> born and I have a spouse that travelled as part of her job, so I was on
> call 24/7, so to speak. I wouldn't trade my experience for anything,
> though!
>
> When my wife's father died out of state, a friend loaned me his
> airplane to get my wife to her mother's side. The kids were 4 and 2, it
> was the second child's first flight. For the trip home, I gave each of
> the kids a grease pencil and they had fun drawing on the rear windows
> for and hour and a half. After that trip, every time we drove past the
> airport, the 2 year old would gleefully ask, "Daddy, are we going
> flying again?" Music to my ears!




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[Marco L]

I'd love to take them along but my wife's about 6 months pregnant and my son
won't keep his earplugs in his ears nor will he keep the headset on his
head!

Maybe that's when I'll be able to fly more. I expect some further
degradation of flight hours once the second one is born.

Thanks!

Marco

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
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> > Thoughts?
>
> Take 'em along!
>
> My son has been flying since he was a toddler, and my daughter has flown
> since birth. It's somewhat of a military operation, getting them loaded
in
> the plane -- but that's no different then EVERYTHING else in your life,
with
> little kids.
>
> Just takes more planning....
>
> And it *does* pass. To be replaced by whining, which, in turn, is
> supplanted by surliness.
>
> I can hardly wait to see what's next! :-)
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>




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[Jay Honeck]

> I'd love to take them along but my wife's about 6 months pregnant and my
son
> won't keep his earplugs in his ears nor will he keep the headset on his
> head!

Well, Mary flew when she was pregnant, right up till the week before
delivery.

When my kids wouldn't keep their ear plugs in, we would simply tie their
hoods tightly around their faces. This effectively kept those chubby little
fingers from removing the earplugs, and all was well. Actually, we found
that they would usually fall fast asleep within minutes after take-off.

In fact, they often still do, at ages 10 and 13.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
"Marco L" <beach321(at)ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
...
>
> Maybe that's when I'll be able to fly more. I expect some further
> degradation of flight hours once the second one is born.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Marco
>
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:y%qCb.525884$Fm2.506470@attbi_s04...
> > > Thoughts?
> >
> > Take 'em along!
> >
> > My son has been flying since he was a toddler, and my daughter has flown
> > since birth. It's somewhat of a military operation, getting them loaded
> in
> > the plane -- but that's no different then EVERYTHING else in your life,
> with
> > little kids.
> >
> > Just takes more planning....
> >
> > And it *does* pass. To be replaced by whining, which, in turn, is
> > supplanted by surliness.
> >
> > I can hardly wait to see what's next! :-)
> > --
> > Jay Honeck
> > Iowa City, IA
> > Pathfinder N56993
> > www.AlexisParkInn.com
> > "Your Aviation Destination"
> >
> >
>
>
>
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[Marco Leon]

Ya know, that tight hood idea is a good one! I must have read scores of
"flying your kids" threads but I must have missed that little gem. I must
try that when I get home...

Thanks,

Marco

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
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> > I'd love to take them along but my wife's about 6 months pregnant and my
> son
> > won't keep his earplugs in his ears nor will he keep the headset on his
> > head!
>
> Well, Mary flew when she was pregnant, right up till the week before
> delivery.
>
> When my kids wouldn't keep their ear plugs in, we would simply tie their
> hoods tightly around their faces. This effectively kept those chubby
little
> fingers from removing the earplugs, and all was well. Actually, we found
> that they would usually fall fast asleep within minutes after take-off.
>
> In fact, they often still do, at ages 10 and 13.
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
> "Marco L" <beach321(at)ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Maybe that's when I'll be able to fly more. I expect some further
> > degradation of flight hours once the second one is born.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Marco
> >
> > "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> > news:y%qCb.525884$Fm2.506470@attbi_s04...
> > > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Take 'em along!
> > >
> > > My son has been flying since he was a toddler, and my daughter has
flown
> > > since birth. It's somewhat of a military operation, getting them
loaded
> > in
> > > the plane -- but that's no different then EVERYTHING else in your
life,
> > with
> > > little kids.
> > >
> > > Just takes more planning....
> > >
> > > And it *does* pass. To be replaced by whining, which, in turn, is
> > > supplanted by surliness.
> > >
> > > I can hardly wait to see what's next! :-)
> > > --
> > > Jay Honeck
> > > Iowa City, IA
> > > Pathfinder N56993
> > > www.AlexisParkInn.com
> > > "Your Aviation Destination"
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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[Peter Weaver]

Marco Leon wrote:
> Hi all. I've noticed a considerable decrease in flight hours
since my
> son was born a little over a year ago. My wife is also 5
months
> pregnant with another so flying time may suffer further
decline. I'm
> wondering...what are some of your experiences during the
> life-changing event of a new family and flying? Did you
start flying
> more often after the kids hit a certain age? What did you do
to find
> more time?
>...

My daughter was born June 29th, since then every time the
weather looked good enough to go flying I was just too tired
to go. A week ago Sunday the weather was great, I did not feel
exhausted for the first time in five months and the flying
club had a Cherokee available. I booked it and told my wife
that I would just do circuits because I have not gone for a
while. When I got to the airport the instructors thought it
would be good to have one of them along for a few circuits,
since I have not flown with an instructor for the last six or
seven years I thought it was a good idea too. So we did one
touch and go, one soft field landing and a practice emergency
landing, after that I did four more circuits on my own. The
whole thing felt great. It was great being in the air again,
and it was great knowing that when I did not feel safe enough
to fly for the last five months I did not have to. Now I'm
hoping to get up in the air at least once every two months and
take my daughter up after he second birthday (my wife is
worried about putting headphones on her before then).

--
Peter Weaver
Weaver Consulting Services Inc.
Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX
www.weaverconsulting.ca

[Snowbird]

"Marco Leon" <mleon(at)optonline.net> wrote in message >...
> Hi all. I've noticed a considerable decrease in flight hours since my son
> was born a little over a year ago. My wife is also 5 months pregnant with
> another so flying time may suffer further decline. I'm wondering...what are
> some of your experiences during the life-changing event of a new family and
> flying? Did you start flying more often after the kids hit a certain age?

Yeah. It got easier after our daughter was sleeping pretty solidly
through the night. About a year, even better after two years.
Frankly it was about 3 years before I really started to feel
normal again as far as energy level and such and we got back to
being able to complete projects around the house and so forth.

And yes, Jay, we took her along, but frankly 1) toting along
a child in diapers adds considerably to the logistics, even if
"mommy is the kitchen" and bottles/formula aren't a concern
2) working full time and parenting full time is *tiring* and
there were plenty of times when I had time to fly, but was just
too *tired* 3) IMO when a child is small (say less than 2 or
so) if one expects them to *like* flying, someone had better
make it their primary job to tend to the child in the plane.

Now the problem is less "tired", and more that it seems every
fall/winter is spent fighting non-stop family wide colds. I'm
hoping this, too, shall pass some day.

> What did you do to find more time?

I don't have a good answer to this. It was hard. Still is.
Frankly with both of us working full time, I would have been
kinda ticked if my husband was taking off to fly early mornings
or late nights more than 1-2 a week or so. It seemed as though
there was plenty to do to prepare for the next day with both of
us "on it" every bit we could spare.

I'm not sure how it would have been different if I were a SAHM.
Easier to spare the husband in the morning and harder in the
evening, I'm guessing.

Good luck!
Sydney

[Snowbird]

EDR > wrote in message >...

> When my wife's father died out of state, a friend loaned me his
> airplane to get my wife to her mother's side. The kids were 4 and 2, it
> was the second child's first flight. For the trip home, I gave each of
> the kids a grease pencil and they had fun drawing on the rear windows
> for and hour and a half.

Gah! Glad it wasn't our plane...

Sydney (three words: COLOR WONDER MARKERS)

[Tom Sixkiller]

"Snowbird" > wrote in message
om...
> "Marco Leon" <mleon(at)optonline.net> wrote in message
>...
> > Hi all. I've noticed a considerable decrease in flight hours since my
son
> > was born a little over a year ago. My wife is also 5 months pregnant
with
> > another so flying time may suffer further decline. I'm wondering...what
are
> > some of your experiences during the life-changing event of a new family
and
> > flying? Did you start flying more often after the kids hit a certain
age?
>
> Yeah. It got easier after our daughter was sleeping pretty solidly
> through the night. About a year, even better after two years.
> Frankly it was about 3 years before I really started to feel
> normal again as far as energy level and such and we got back to
> being able to complete projects around the house and so forth.
>
> And yes, Jay, we took her along, but frankly 1) toting along
> a child in diapers adds considerably to the logistics, even if
> "mommy is the kitchen" and bottles/formula aren't a concern
> 2) working full time and parenting full time is *tiring* and
> there were plenty of times when I had time to fly, but was just
> too *tired* 3) IMO when a child is small (say less than 2 or
> so) if one expects them to *like* flying, someone had better
> make it their primary job to tend to the child in the plane.
>
> Now the problem is less "tired", and more that it seems every
> fall/winter is spent fighting non-stop family wide colds. I'm
> hoping this, too, shall pass some day.

Don't hold your breath...it'll be MANY years.

Tom -- Dad of three in the "estrogen ocean"; daughters now 23, 21, and 18.

[Jay Honeck]

> > Now the problem is less "tired", and more that it seems every
> > fall/winter is spent fighting non-stop family wide colds. I'm
> > hoping this, too, shall pass some day.
>
> Don't hold your breath...it'll be MANY years.

We must have good genes, or something, as it's rare that anyone in our
family is ill. And I don't think there's been a time yet where we've all
been sick at the same time.

We all take multi-vitamins every day, FWIW, since we know our diets could be
better...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[L Smith]

Jay Honeck wrote:

>
>And I don't think there's been a time yet where we've all
>been sick at the same time.
>
>
Believe me, it happens. My son, who was three at the time, came down
with the
flu about Dec 29 or 30 one year. Come New Year's Day, he was fine and raring
to go. Mom and I weren't! (We'd caught the bug.) I got the early shift,
parking myself
in front of the bowl games and getting the kid fed now and then. About
two o'clock,
woke the wife and told her I couldn't go any longer without a nap - her
turn!

The ironic part is the fact that we were living with my parents at the
time, but they
couldn't look after Ryan because they had gone to visit my Aunt and
Uncle. We
found out later, though, that even if they had been home, they were both
sick too.

Rich Lemert

[Marco Leon]

Thanks for your story Peter. What I'm finding is that come a nice Saturday,
I have a number of things that "need" to be done as well as some "needed"
quality time with my son. Flying usually loses out. However, I do get out
from time to time to polish up my IFR procedures.

It's hard. Especially when my 1 1/2 year old walks around the house looking
for me after I've gone to work. It makes it hard to have him go through that
when I fly when he can't understand why I'm not there. I can't wait until he
can wear his own headphones!

Marco

"Peter Weaver" > wrote in message
...
> Marco Leon wrote:
> > Hi all. I've noticed a considerable decrease in flight hours
> since my
> > son was born a little over a year ago. My wife is also 5
> months
> > pregnant with another so flying time may suffer further
> decline. I'm
> > wondering...what are some of your experiences during the
> > life-changing event of a new family and flying? Did you
> start flying
> > more often after the kids hit a certain age? What did you do
> to find
> > more time?
> >...
>
> My daughter was born June 29th, since then every time the
> weather looked good enough to go flying I was just too tired
> to go. A week ago Sunday the weather was great, I did not feel
> exhausted for the first time in five months and the flying
> club had a Cherokee available. I booked it and told my wife
> that I would just do circuits because I have not gone for a
> while. When I got to the airport the instructors thought it
> would be good to have one of them along for a few circuits,
> since I have not flown with an instructor for the last six or
> seven years I thought it was a good idea too. So we did one
> touch and go, one soft field landing and a practice emergency
> landing, after that I did four more circuits on my own. The
> whole thing felt great. It was great being in the air again,
> and it was great knowing that when I did not feel safe enough
> to fly for the last five months I did not have to. Now I'm
> hoping to get up in the air at least once every two months and
> take my daughter up after he second birthday (my wife is
> worried about putting headphones on her before then).
>
> --
> Peter Weaver
> Weaver Consulting Services Inc.
> Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX
> www.weaverconsulting.ca
>
>



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[Marco Leon]

Yeah, we just got hit this month for the first time. My son go a cough and
ear infection and 3 days later both my wife and I got it too. I had mine for
over 10 days as well as my wife. Now that we're better, my son gets it
again! Damn!

I hope we start building up an immunity to this thing soon.

Marco

"L Smith" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Believe me, it happens. My son, who was three at the time, came down
> with the
> flu about Dec 29 or 30 one year. Come New Year's Day, he was fine and
raring
> to go. Mom and I weren't! (We'd caught the bug.) I got the early shift,
> parking myself
> in front of the bowl games and getting the kid fed now and then. About
> two o'clock,
> woke the wife and told her I couldn't go any longer without a nap - her
> turn!
>
> The ironic part is the fact that we were living with my parents at the
> time, but they
> couldn't look after Ryan because they had gone to visit my Aunt and
> Uncle. We
> found out later, though, that even if they had been home, they were both
> sick too.
>
> Rich Lemert
>



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[Marco Leon]

Thanks Sidney. You're absolutely right, there's a million things "to do"
with the family and around the house. Now it's holiday shopping and in
January, it's catching up on all the things we put off in December! I think
I just have to get up really early on some weekends to get in the air. The
problem is that my safety pilot list is quite small at 6AM on a cold winter
Saturday!

Marco

"Snowbird" > wrote in message
om...
> "Marco Leon" <mleon(at)optonline.net> wrote in message
>...
> > Hi all. I've noticed a considerable decrease in flight hours since my
son
> > was born a little over a year ago. My wife is also 5 months pregnant
with
> > another so flying time may suffer further decline. I'm wondering...what
are
> > some of your experiences during the life-changing event of a new family
and
> > flying? Did you start flying more often after the kids hit a certain
age?
>
> Yeah. It got easier after our daughter was sleeping pretty solidly
> through the night. About a year, even better after two years.
> Frankly it was about 3 years before I really started to feel
> normal again as far as energy level and such and we got back to
> being able to complete projects around the house and so forth.
>
> And yes, Jay, we took her along, but frankly 1) toting along
> a child in diapers adds considerably to the logistics, even if
> "mommy is the kitchen" and bottles/formula aren't a concern
> 2) working full time and parenting full time is *tiring* and
> there were plenty of times when I had time to fly, but was just
> too *tired* 3) IMO when a child is small (say less than 2 or
> so) if one expects them to *like* flying, someone had better
> make it their primary job to tend to the child in the plane.
>
> Now the problem is less "tired", and more that it seems every
> fall/winter is spent fighting non-stop family wide colds. I'm
> hoping this, too, shall pass some day.
>
> > What did you do to find more time?
>
> I don't have a good answer to this. It was hard. Still is.
> Frankly with both of us working full time, I would have been
> kinda ticked if my husband was taking off to fly early mornings
> or late nights more than 1-2 a week or so. It seemed as though
> there was plenty to do to prepare for the next day with both of
> us "on it" every bit we could spare.
>
> I'm not sure how it would have been different if I were a SAHM.
> Easier to spare the husband in the morning and harder in the
> evening, I'm guessing.
>
> Good luck!
> Sydney



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[john smith]

Snowbird wrote:
>
> EDR > wrote in message >...
> > When my wife's father died out of state, a friend loaned me his
> > airplane to get my wife to her mother's side. The kids were 4 and 2, it
> > was the second child's first flight. For the trip home, I gave each of
> > the kids a grease pencil and they had fun drawing on the rear windows
> > for and hour and a half.

> Gah! Glad it wasn't our plane...

Grease pencils are really wax... it wipes off with a clean cloth.
BTW... do you know how to remove crayon?
Spray WD-40 on the crayon marks (poster paint, markers, etc) you want to
remove. The WD-40 dissolves it.
See Binney & Smith website (www.crayola.com?).