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Richard[_8_]
July 26th 12, 02:02 PM
An interesting design - "double-box" tail to reduce tip vortexes?

Construction is typical Rutan moldless.

http://www.synergyaircraft.com/index.html

Construction log:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2269305930339.2115716.1179309664&type=3&l=9655b74356

Philippe[_6_]
July 26th 12, 02:48 PM
le jeudi 26 juillet 2012 15:02, Richard a écrit:

> An interesting design - "double-box" tail to reduce tip vortexes?
>
> Construction is typical Rutan moldless.
>
> http://www.synergyaircraft.com/index.html

Too strange to work...


in other way, Lance Neibauer versus Burt Rutan:
compare each design using same engine:
What is the fastest?
What kneed shorter runways?
etc...

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Philippe Vessaire Ò¿Ó¬

Vaughn
July 26th 12, 04:29 PM
On 7/26/2012 9:02 AM, Richard wrote:
> An interesting design - "double-box" tail to reduce tip vortexes?
>
> Construction is typical Rutan moldless.
>
> http://www.synergyaircraft.com/index.html
>
> Construction log:
> http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2269305930339.2115716.1179309664&type=3&l=9655b74356
>
I wish them well, and if they know anything about aircraft design,
they probably know more than me. But still...I look at all those extra
junctions and think "Interference drag". And then there is the
parasitic drag from all those non-lifting vertical surfaces.

Does this really have any benefit over a long-aspect ratio conventional
wing? If nothing else, it will fit into a more conveniently-sized
T-hanger. I hope they truly have invented a better mousetrap, but my
plan is to wait and see.

Vaughn

Richard Isakson
July 26th 12, 07:46 PM
"Richard" wrote in message
m...

>An interesting design - "double-box" tail to reduce tip vortexes?
>
>Construction is typical Rutan moldless.
>
>http://www.synergyaircraft.com/index.html
>
>Construction log:
>http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2269305930339.2115716.1179309664&type=3&l=9655b74356


"Wake Propulsion, Open Thermodynamics, and Subsonic Area Ruling" Bullpucky
Alert! Bullpucky Alert!

"Every donation counts" Danger! Will Robinson Danger!

I can't believe you find this crap to be "An interesting design".

Then again, if you have all that money to donate to a project perhaps you'd
like to invest in the Isakson Phantomware. Guaranteed to go Mach two on to
gallons per hour, it's made of pure balonium and it literally builds itself
in one afternoon. Hurry, Hurry, Hurry.

Richard Isakson

Richard[_8_]
July 26th 12, 08:09 PM
On 7/26/2012 1:46 PM, Richard Isakson wrote:
> "Richard" wrote in message
> m...
>
>> An interesting design - "double-box" tail to reduce tip vortexes?
>>
>> Construction is typical Rutan moldless.
>>
>> http://www.synergyaircraft.com/index.html
>>
>> Construction log:
>> http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.2269305930339.2115716.1179309664&type=3&l=9655b74356
>>
>
>
> "Wake Propulsion, Open Thermodynamics, and Subsonic Area Ruling"
> Bullpucky Alert! Bullpucky Alert!
>
> "Every donation counts" Danger! Will Robinson Danger!
>
> I can't believe you find this crap to be "An interesting design".
>
> Then again, if you have all that money to donate to a project perhaps
> you'd like to invest in the Isakson Phantomware. Guaranteed to go Mach
> two on to gallons per hour, it's made of pure balonium and it literally
> builds itself in one afternoon. Hurry, Hurry, Hurry.
>
> Richard Isakson
>
>


Did you bother to look at the aircraft they are actually building?
I think it IS interesting.
Ok, I'm not convinced the trade-offs will work for them, but

1) they really are building the thing.

2) even if it doesn't advance the state of the art, it is a
construction project, so very on topic.

3) it would be nice to get some RAH traffic going again.

4) where is your project Isak?


Richard

Richard Isakson
July 26th 12, 09:02 PM
"Richard" wrote in message
m...

>4) where is your project Isak?
>
>
>Richard

Alas, no more project. While in Viet Nam I was sprayed by the Dioxin they
used as a defoliant(Agent Orange). I even saw them spraying and asked about
it. "Oh, you don't need to worry about That". Now, after all these years,
I've been diagnosed with stage four Lymphoma related to the spraying. It's
somewhat treatable but incurable. It will kill me if the chemo doesn't.
Other then the end results, the cancer symptoms aren't bad. The results of
the chemo are hellish. Two years ago I had little sense of balance, I
would fall down just walking down the street. Can you imagine trying to fly
an airplane without a sense of balance? I don't fly any more. I can't even
self certify. Losing your ability to fly is just as horrible as you always
thought it was.

If I can't fly it, I won't built it. Thus no project.

Richard Isakson

Richard[_8_]
July 26th 12, 09:56 PM
On 7/26/2012 3:02 PM, Richard Isakson wrote:
> "Richard" wrote in message
> m...
>
>> 4) where is your project Isak?
>>
>>
>> Richard
>
> Alas, no more project. While in Viet Nam I was sprayed by the Dioxin
> they used as a defoliant(Agent Orange). I even saw them spraying and
> asked about it. "Oh, you don't need to worry about That". Now, after all
> these years, I've been diagnosed with stage four Lymphoma related to the
> spraying. It's somewhat treatable but incurable. It will kill me if the
> chemo doesn't. Other then the end results, the cancer symptoms aren't
> bad. The results of the chemo are hellish. Two years ago I had little
> sense of balance, I would fall down just walking down the street. Can
> you imagine trying to fly an airplane without a sense of balance? I
> don't fly any more. I can't even self certify. Losing your ability to
> fly is just as horrible as you always thought it was.
>
> If I can't fly it, I won't built it. Thus no project.
>
> Richard Isakson

Copy that, Richard.

We had 4 UH1H "Ranch Hands" visit our flight line for a couple of weeks.
They all leaked orange puddles.
But they said to stay away from it - and we did.

I've had a bladder tumor rupture (cost me my medical), my first and
only (please!) menstrual cycle. Gave me a how ne respect for what 13
year old girls go through. But no lymphoma.

Still, I'm itching to build that cute little cabin job (VeeWee Coupe).
It won't come in as a legal ultralight, I know. But I think it can
get it in at about 310-320 maybe. I might just built it anyway.
It would be something fun to do.

Richard

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