UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg

[Joseph Testagrose]

[Andrew Chaplin]

Joseph Testagrose > wrote in
:

>
> begin 644 UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
>
> Attachment decoded: UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
> `
> end

I was expecting a flying boat.
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Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

[Ramsman]

On 01/08/2012 14:20, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
> Joseph Testagrose > wrote in
> :
>
>>
>> begin 644 UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
>>
>> Attachment decoded: UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
>> `
>> end
>
> I was expecting a flying boat.
>

It's like what I experience when posts are about Hornets and Typhoons.
They're usually grey things with holes at each end instead of having
whirly bits pulling them along. And now there's a third Lightning as well.

--
Peter

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
Ramsman > wrote:

> On 01/08/2012 14:20, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
> > Joseph Testagrose > wrote in
> > :
> >
> >>
> >> begin 644 UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
> >>
> >> Attachment decoded: UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
> >> `
> >> end
> >
> > I was expecting a flying boat.
> >
>
> It's like what I experience when posts are about Hornets and Typhoons.
> They're usually grey things with holes at each end instead of having
> whirly bits pulling them along. And now there's a third Lightning as well.

.... or:
Westland Whirlwind -- I expect a pair of Merlins, a T-tail, instead of a
collection of parts whirling around in semi-tight formation.

[®i©ardo]

On 01/08/2012 19:21, Orval Fairbairn wrote:
> In article >,
> Ramsman > wrote:
>
>> On 01/08/2012 14:20, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
>>> Joseph Testagrose > wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>>
>>>> begin 644 UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Attachment decoded: UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
>>>> `
>>>> end
>>>
>>> I was expecting a flying boat.
>>>
>>
>> It's like what I experience when posts are about Hornets and Typhoons.
>> They're usually grey things with holes at each end instead of having
>> whirly bits pulling them along. And now there's a third Lightning as well.
>
> ... or:
> Westland Whirlwind -- I expect a pair of Merlins, a T-tail, instead of a
> collection of parts whirling around in semi-tight formation.
>

Brace up lads, this is the 21st century!

;-)

--
Moving things in still pictures

[Andrew Chaplin]

®i©ardo > wrote in
:

> On 01/08/2012 19:21, Orval Fairbairn wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Ramsman > wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/08/2012 14:20, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
>>>> Joseph Testagrose > wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> begin 644 UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Attachment decoded: UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
>>>>> `
>>>>> end
>>>>
>>>> I was expecting a flying boat.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's like what I experience when posts are about Hornets and
>>> Typhoons. They're usually grey things with holes at each end instead
>>> of having whirly bits pulling them along. And now there's a third
>>> Lightning as well.
>>
>> ... or:
>> Westland Whirlwind -- I expect a pair of Merlins, a T-tail, instead of
>> a collection of parts whirling around in semi-tight formation.
>>
>
> Brace up lads, this is the 21st century!
>
> ;-)

:þ
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

[Netko]

On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:21:18 +0100, Orval Fairbairn wrote
(in article
>):

> ... or:
> Westland Whirlwind -- I expect a pair of Merlins, a T-tail, instead of a
> collection of parts whirling around in semi-tight formation.

Merlins? In a Whirlwind? If only...

[arjay]

"Orval Fairbairn" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Ramsman > wrote:
>> On 01/08/2012 14:20, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
>> > Joseph Testagrose > wrote in
>> > :
>> >>
>> >> begin 644 UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
>> >>
>> >> Attachment decoded: UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
>> >> `
>> >> end
>> >
>> > I was expecting a flying boat.
>>
>> It's like what I experience when posts are about Hornets and Typhoons.
>> They're usually grey things with holes at each end instead of having
>> whirly bits pulling them along. And now there's a third Lightning as
>> well.
>
> ... or:
> Westland Whirlwind -- I expect a pair of Merlins, a T-tail, instead of a
> collection of parts whirling around in semi-tight formation.

Peregrines, not Merlins.

[Bob (not my real pseudonym)]

On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:05:37 +0100, Ramsman >
wrote:

>On 01/08/2012 14:20, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
>> Joseph Testagrose > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>
>>>

[Dave Kearton[_3_]]

"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:05:37 +0100, Ramsman >
> wrote:

>
> Aviation history is up to its arse in Globemasters, too...
>
>





Either the foreground or the background would qualify as a pretty picture,
doing both is like chocolate and vanilla in the same bucket of strawberries.



Unless I've mis-Googled, this is Mt St Helens from Ed Carlson ?




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Cheers

Dave Kearton

[Dave Kearton[_3_]]

"Dave Kearton" > wrote in message
...
> "Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:05:37 +0100, Ramsman >
>> wrote:
>
>>
>> Aviation history is up to its arse in Globemasters, too...
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Either the foreground or the background would qualify as a pretty picture,
> doing both is like chocolate and vanilla in the same bucket of
> strawberries.
>
>
>
> Unless I've mis-Googled, this is Mt St Helens from Ed Carlson ?
>
>
>




OK, I'll take a partial on that.....it's Chehalis-Centralia. Looks like a
very nice corner of the planet too.






--



Cheers

Dave Kearton

[Orval Fairbairn]

In article >,
"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote:

> On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:05:37 +0100, Ramsman >
> wrote:
>
> >On 01/08/2012 14:20, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
> >> Joseph Testagrose > wrote in
> >> :
> >>
> >>>
> >>> begin 644 UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
> >>>
> >>> Attachment decoded: UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
> >>> `
> >>> end
> >>
> >> I was expecting a flying boat.
> >>
> >
> >It's like what I experience when posts are about Hornets and Typhoons.
> >They're usually grey things with holes at each end instead of having
> >whirly bits pulling them along. And now there's a third Lightning as well.
>
> Aviation history is up to its arse in Globemasters, too...

Yes -- C-74, C-124, C-17

[Ramsman]

On 02/08/2012 18:16, Orval Fairbairn wrote:
> In article >,
> "Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:05:37 +0100, Ramsman >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/08/2012 14:20, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
>>>> Joseph Testagrose > wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> begin 644 UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Attachment decoded: UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
>>>>> `
>>>>> end
>>>>
>>>> I was expecting a flying boat.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's like what I experience when posts are about Hornets and Typhoons.
>>> They're usually grey things with holes at each end instead of having
>>> whirly bits pulling them along. And now there's a third Lightning as well.
>>
>> Aviation history is up to its arse in Globemasters, too...
>
> Yes -- C-74, C-124, C-17
>

Then there's the Westland Wessex, Hawker Harrier, Hawker Fury, de
Havilland Comet, McD Phantom, Vought Corsair, NA Fury, all of which have
been applied to at least two different types. There are probably others,
but they don't spring to mind at the moment. Oh yes, the Supermarine
Spitfire, of course, and the Vickers and de Havilland Venoms.

--
Peter

[Bob (not my real pseudonym)]

On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 20:55:21 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
> wrote:

>"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
...
>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:05:37 +0100, Ramsman >
>> wrote:
>
>>
>> Aviation history is up to its arse in Globemasters, too...
>>
>
>Either the foreground or the background would qualify as a pretty picture,
>doing both is like chocolate and vanilla in the same bucket of strawberries.
>
>
>
>Unless I've mis-Googled, this is Mt St Helens from Ed Carlson ?

Ackshirley, Mt Rainier from McChord AFB (oops - "Joint Base
Lewis-McChord" now) near Tacoma, Washington - about 60 miles south of
my hometown of Seattle. Home base for the 62 AMW C-17's and some Army
folks.

Mt Rainier does make for a nice backdrop, and it is more well-behaved
tham Mt St Helens. For now.

[Bob (not my real pseudonym)]

On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 21:11:47 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
> wrote:

>> Either the foreground or the background would qualify as a pretty picture,
>> doing both is like chocolate and vanilla in the same bucket of
>> strawberries.

Fine. Mention ice cream after the Trader Joe's across the street
closes for the day.

>> Unless I've mis-Googled, this is Mt St Helens from Ed Carlson ?
>
>OK, I'll take a partial on that.....it's Chehalis-Centralia. Looks like a
>very nice corner of the planet too.

Here is St Helens from about five miles away, during the 2005
dome-building eruption.

And another from July 1980 during one of its secondary burps after
"The Big One" of May 18, 1980. This one was taken from 100 miles
away, and not an inch too far.

[Bob (not my real pseudonym)]

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:16:38 -0400, Orval Fairbairn
> wrote:

>In article >,
> "Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:05:37 +0100, Ramsman >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 01/08/2012 14:20, Andrew Chaplin wrote:
>> >> Joseph Testagrose > wrote in
>> >> :
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> begin 644 UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
>> >>>
>> >>> Attachment decoded: UK2 VL229 Vickers VikingC2.jpg
>> >>> `
>> >>> end
>> >>
>> >> I was expecting a flying boat.
>> >>
>> >
>> >It's like what I experience when posts are about Hornets and Typhoons.
>> >They're usually grey things with holes at each end instead of having
>> >whirly bits pulling them along. And now there's a third Lightning as well.
>>
>> Aviation history is up to its arse in Globemasters, too...
>
>Yes -- C-74, C-124, C-17

I should have typed:

"Aviation history is up to its arse in Globemasters, three...

All Boeings, just like the DC-3. >;^}

[Dave Kearton[_3_]]

"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 21:11:47 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
> > wrote:
>
>>> Either the foreground or the background would qualify as a pretty
>>> picture,
>>> doing both is like chocolate and vanilla in the same bucket of
>>> strawberries.
>
> Fine. Mention ice cream after the Trader Joe's across the street
> closes for the day.
>
>>> Unless I've mis-Googled, this is Mt St Helens from Ed Carlson ?
>>
>>OK, I'll take a partial on that.....it's Chehalis-Centralia. Looks like
>>a
>>very nice corner of the planet too.
>
> Here is St Helens from about five miles away, during the 2005
> dome-building eruption.
>
> And another from July 1980 during one of its secondary burps after
> "The Big One" of May 18, 1980. This one was taken from 100 miles
> away, and not an inch too far.
>
>




That must have been a life-changing event. I should pay more attention
to volcanoes.



--



Cheers

Dave Kearton

[Dave Kearton[_3_]]

"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 20:55:21 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
...
>>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:05:37 +0100, Ramsman >
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Aviation history is up to its arse in Globemasters, too...
>>>
>>
>>Either the foreground or the background would qualify as a pretty picture,
>>doing both is like chocolate and vanilla in the same bucket of
>>strawberries.
>>
>>
>>
>>Unless I've mis-Googled, this is Mt St Helens from Ed Carlson ?
>
> Ackshirley, Mt Rainier from McChord AFB (oops - "Joint Base
> Lewis-McChord" now) near Tacoma, Washington - about 60 miles south of
> my hometown of Seattle. Home base for the 62 AMW C-17's and some Army
> folks.
>


There we go, was being too clever. They both have 16/34 runways, was
too keen to jump at the first one I saw.







> Mt Rainier does make for a nice backdrop, and it is more well-behaved
> tham Mt St Helens. For now.
>
>



It's the quiet ones that you can't trust.....they don't all look alike for
nothing you know.






--



Cheers

Dave Kearton

[Andrew Chaplin]

"Dave Kearton" > wrote in
:

> "Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 21:11:47 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>> Either the foreground or the background would qualify as a pretty
>>>> picture,
>>>> doing both is like chocolate and vanilla in the same bucket of
>>>> strawberries.
>>
>> Fine. Mention ice cream after the Trader Joe's across the street
>> closes for the day.
>>
>>>> Unless I've mis-Googled, this is Mt St Helens from Ed Carlson ?
>>>
>>>OK, I'll take a partial on that.....it's Chehalis-Centralia. Looks
>>>like a
>>>very nice corner of the planet too.
>>
>> Here is St Helens from about five miles away, during the 2005
>> dome-building eruption.
>>
>> And another from July 1980 during one of its secondary burps after
>> "The Big One" of May 18, 1980. This one was taken from 100 miles
>> away, and not an inch too far.
>
> That must have been a life-changing event. I should pay more
> attention to volcanoes.

Mount Saint Helens sand-blasted my car, parked outside the quarters some
2,000 Km away in Shilo, Manitoba.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

[Trajan]

"Hey look, the mountain's out"!

"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 20:55:21 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
...
>>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 17:05:37 +0100, Ramsman >
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Aviation history is up to its arse in Globemasters, too...
>>>
>>
>>Either the foreground or the background would qualify as a pretty picture,
>>doing both is like chocolate and vanilla in the same bucket of
>>strawberries.
>>
>>
>>
>>Unless I've mis-Googled, this is Mt St Helens from Ed Carlson ?
>
> Ackshirley, Mt Rainier from McChord AFB (oops - "Joint Base
> Lewis-McChord" now) near Tacoma, Washington - about 60 miles south of
> my hometown of Seattle. Home base for the 62 AMW C-17's and some Army
> folks.
>
> Mt Rainier does make for a nice backdrop, and it is more well-behaved
> tham Mt St Helens. For now.
>
>

[Jess Lurkin[_4_]]

"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in
:

> `
> end


Re pic #1...

Crusty old Harry Truman. (sniff)

He's turning out rather nicely though.

[Bob (not my real pseudonym)]

On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 20:35:31 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
> wrote:

>"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 2 Aug 2012 21:11:47 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>> Either the foreground or the background would qualify as a pretty
>>>> picture,
>>>> doing both is like chocolate and vanilla in the same bucket of
>>>> strawberries.
>>
>> Fine. Mention ice cream after the Trader Joe's across the street
>> closes for the day.
>>
>>>> Unless I've mis-Googled, this is Mt St Helens from Ed Carlson ?
>>>
>>>OK, I'll take a partial on that.....it's Chehalis-Centralia. Looks like
>>>a
>>>very nice corner of the planet too.
>>
>> Here is St Helens from about five miles away, during the 2005
>> dome-building eruption.
>>
>> And another from July 1980 during one of its secondary burps after
>> "The Big One" of May 18, 1980. This one was taken from 100 miles
>> away, and not an inch too far.
>
>That must have been a life-changing event. I should pay more attention
>to volcanoes.

I was at the Fairchild AFB open house on May 18, 300 miles directly
downwind of the volcano. One of our party was a police officer in a
town about 100 miles closer to the volcano; we tried to get him home.
Cost my friend a new engine for his car and some of us stranded a
couple days in a road side rest area and small town school gymnasium.
Finally got home four days later in my car, complete with my own
personal lahar...

That, and memories that will last forever.

The shot that looks like nighttime was taken as we drove into the ash
cloud during early afternoon. A short time later there was no
daylight at all; I've worked in commercial darkrooms that had more
ambient light. The sound of muffled thunder as static lightning arced
through the ash clouds above as the most amazing soft snow of
ex-volcano fell around us.

Even you folks in Oz aren't completely immune...

http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2011/07/05/scientists-warn-volcanoes-in-australia-are-due-to-erupt/

[Bob (not my real pseudonym)]

On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 20:59:56 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
> wrote:

>> Mt Rainier does make for a nice backdrop, and it is more well-behaved
>> tham Mt St Helens. For now.
>>
>>
>It's the quiet ones that you can't trust.....they don't all look alike for
>nothing you know.

Indeed - Mount Rainier has a history of sloughing off sizable chunks
of itself without even the by-your-leave of an eruption. Much of the
heavily populated parts of Tacoma and surrounds are built on deposits
from a giant landslide several thousand years ago; hydrothermal
activity has left much of the interior of the mountain as rotten and
fickle as a politician. Rainier has had small eruptions as recently
as the 1850s; it ain't in a deep sleep for sure.

But for now, it makes a great subject for killing pixels.

[Bob (not my real pseudonym)]

On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 09:49:01 -0400, "Trajan"
> wrote:

>"Hey look, the mountain's out"!

"If you can't see the mountain, it's raining.
If you can see the mountain, it will be raining shortly."

[Dave Kearton[_3_]]

"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
...

> That, and memories that will last forever.
> >
> I was at the Fairchild AFB open house on May 18, 300 miles directly
> downwind of the volcano. One of our party was a police officer in a
> town about 100 miles closer to the volcano; we tried to get him home.
> Cost my friend a new engine for his car and some of us stranded a
> couple days in a road side rest area and small town school gymnasium.
> Finally got home four days later in my car, complete with my own
> personal lahar...
>

I guess when you're in a panic to take care of the family, you're not too
cautious about your car sucking in fine dust particles.


I recall at the time that it would be foolish to try and drive in that dust,
both to the engine and the paintwork. If I were already home, I'd
leave the car and spend my time sweeping off the roof.




> The shot that looks like nighttime was taken as we drove into the ash
> cloud during early afternoon. A short time later there was no
> daylight at all; I've worked in commercial darkrooms that had more
> ambient light. The sound of muffled thunder as static lightning arced
> through the ash clouds above as the most amazing soft snow of
> ex-volcano fell around us.
>


Now this is going to keep me awake tonight.



> Even you folks in Oz aren't completely immune...
>
> http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2011/07/05/scientists-warn-volcanoes-in-australia-are-due-to-erupt/
>
>



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Cheers

Dave Kearton

[Dave Kearton[_3_]]

"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 20:59:56 +0930, "Dave Kearton"
> > wrote:
>
>>> Mt Rainier does make for a nice backdrop, and it is more well-behaved
>>> tham Mt St Helens. For now.
>>>
>>>
>>It's the quiet ones that you can't trust.....they don't all look alike for
>>nothing you know.
>
> Indeed - Mount Rainier has a history of sloughing off sizable chunks
> of itself without even the by-your-leave of an eruption. Much of the
> heavily populated parts of Tacoma and surrounds are built on deposits
> from a giant landslide several thousand years ago; hydrothermal
> activity has left much of the interior of the mountain as rotten and
> fickle as a politician. Rainier has had small eruptions as recently
> as the 1850s; it ain't in a deep sleep for sure.
>
> But for now, it makes a great subject for killing pixels.
>
>



Yep, nice job, in a "I was there before it blew up" kinda way.





--



Cheers

Dave Kearton

[Trajan]

Bob,
Last time we were out there to visit it was August, 90 degrees and not a
spot of rain. The Mountain was out every day. Our friends said that was
summer that week!
Bill Wolcott

"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 09:49:01 -0400, "Trajan"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Hey look, the mountain's out"!
>
> "If you can't see the mountain, it's raining.
> If you can see the mountain, it will be raining shortly."
>

[Andrew Chaplin]

"Bob (not my real pseudonym)" > wrote in
:

> On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 09:49:01 -0400, "Trajan"
> > wrote:
>
>>"Hey look, the mountain's out"!
>
> "If you can't see the mountain, it's raining.
> If you can see the mountain, it will be raining shortly."

Same-same, southern Germany.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

[Bob (not my real pseudonym)]

On Sat, 4 Aug 2012 10:53:23 -0400, "Trajan"
> wrote:

>Bob,
>Last time we were out there to visit it was August, 90 degrees and not a
>spot of rain. The Mountain was out every day. Our friends said that was
>summer that week!
>Bill Wolcott

As it is this week - 93° today, same or higher tomorrow. First 90°
temp in almost two years. Fortunately for me, who doesn't do well in
the heat, we should be back to more normal 70s and morning clouds
after that.

Blue Angels are in town this weekend for SeaFair, but haven't gotten
any photos yet. A few from past years - the F-18s from my balcony; I
had to walk two blocks to the park for the Fat Albert shot. How we
suffer for our art...