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Jeff Dakers
December 20th 03, 11:20 PM
Hi everyone, I Just got a new enroute plotter for VFR flying, and it is
amazing! If you haven't heard about it, it's made by Jeffron Industries
and they call it the Speed Wizard and it's great for finding out ETA's and
groundspeed real fast while your flying. It really is so easy I can't
believe it. It's also quite small, only 8" x about 2" so it fits in my
pocket. While this is the main function, it also doubles as a protractor
and nautical mile ruler, all in a very easy to read format.

Good job to the guys at Jeffron, the Speed Wizard is a great product! If
anyone wants to find out about it, they have some free info available at
this address, just send a blank email to to
find out about it. Pick one up, you'll be glad you did. JD

Robert Moore
December 20th 03, 11:52 PM
"Jeff Dakers" > wrote
> Good job to the guys at Jeffron, the Speed Wizard is a great
> product!

Nothing like patting yourself on the back Jeff!

Bob Moore

Paul Tomblin
December 21st 03, 12:25 AM
In a previous article, "Jeff Dakers" > said:
>Good job to the guys at Jeffron, the Speed Wizard is a great product! If

You know, there are a number of words for pretending to be a satisfied
customer when you're really a shill for the company (or the founder). The
polite word is "astroturf" (because it's fake grass-roots). A more
appropriate word is "fraud". I prefer "****ing liar" myself.

I post every now and then hyping the CoPilot flight planning program for
Palm OS (http://lauriedavis9.tripod.com/copilot/) and my waypoint
generator for that product (http://navaid.com/CoPilot/) but I'd never
pretend to have "just discovered" this new product when I was in fact the
inventor of it.

I'm not interested in your product, no matter how good it is, because of
the slimebag promoting it.

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tony roberts
December 21st 03, 01:14 AM
Will it be promoted on www.jeffron.com ?




In article >,
"Jeff Dakers" > wrote:

> Hi everyone, I Just got a new enroute plotter for VFR flying, and it is
> amazing! If you haven't heard about it, it's made by Jeffron Industries
> and they call it the Speed Wizard and it's great for finding out ETA's and
> groundspeed real fast while your flying. It really is so easy I can't
> believe it. It's also quite small, only 8" x about 2" so it fits in my
> pocket. While this is the main function, it also doubles as a protractor
> and nautical mile ruler, all in a very easy to read format.
>
> Good job to the guys at Jeffron, the Speed Wizard is a great product! If
> anyone wants to find out about it, they have some free info available at
> this address, just send a blank email to to
> find out about it. Pick one up, you'll be glad you did. JD

Michael 182
December 21st 03, 01:27 AM
"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
...

> I'm not interested in your product, no matter how good it is, because of
> the slimebag promoting it.

Summed up nicely.

Michael

Bob Noel
December 21st 03, 03:18 AM
In article >, (Paul
Tomblin) wrote:

> In a previous article, "Jeff Dakers" > said:
> >Good job to the guys at Jeffron, the Speed Wizard is a great product!
> >If
>
> You know, there are a number of words for pretending to be a satisfied
> customer when you're really a shill for the company (or the founder).
> The
> polite word is "astroturf" (because it's fake grass-roots). A more
> appropriate word is "fraud". I prefer "****ing liar" myself.
>
> I post every now and then hyping the CoPilot flight planning program for
> Palm OS (http://lauriedavis9.tripod.com/copilot/) and my waypoint
> generator for that product (http://navaid.com/CoPilot/) but I'd never
> pretend to have "just discovered" this new product when I was in fact the
> inventor of it.
>
> I'm not interested in your product, no matter how good it is, because of
> the slimebag promoting it.


he must be counting on customers being too stupid to realize
who he is.

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Bob Noel

Larry Dighera
December 21st 03, 04:11 PM
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:20:10 -0500, "Jeff Dakers"
> wrote in Message-Id:
>:

>If
>anyone wants to find out about it, they have some free info available at
>this address, just send a blank email to to
>find out about it.

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Mike Beede
December 21st 03, 04:36 PM
In article >, Jeff Dakers > wrote:

> Hi everyone, I Just got a new enroute plotter for VFR flying, and it is
> amazing!

You know, I'm not sure I can even classify this as an attempt
to mislead anyone, given that you used an address at this
jeffron place. Also, following the Enron debacle, the "ron"
ending for company names may no longer have the
connotation of honesty and square-dealing you want to
project.

Too bad, your gizmo might've been interesting, but I'm
assuming it's just another ruler with a scale change.
I'm certainly not going to go to your site and see.

Mike Beede

BTIZ
December 21st 03, 05:33 PM
And how is this better than my "issue" speed dividers that have been around
since ships sailed the seas.. and modified for aviation use...

I bet it does not work better than my TLAR and I don't have to use anything
except my brain.

BT

"Jeff Dakers" > wrote in message
...
> Hi everyone, I Just got a new enroute plotter for VFR flying, and it is
> amazing! If you haven't heard about it, it's made by Jeffron Industries
> and they call it the Speed Wizard and it's great for finding out ETA's and
> groundspeed real fast while your flying. It really is so easy I can't
> believe it. It's also quite small, only 8" x about 2" so it fits in my
> pocket. While this is the main function, it also doubles as a protractor
> and nautical mile ruler, all in a very easy to read format.
>
> Good job to the guys at Jeffron, the Speed Wizard is a great product!
If
> anyone wants to find out about it, they have some free info available at
> this address, just send a blank email to to
> find out about it. Pick one up, you'll be glad you did. JD
>
>
>
>

vincent p. norris
December 22nd 03, 01:38 AM
>"Jeff Dakers" > wrote
>> Good job to the guys at Jeffron, the Speed Wizard is a great
>> product!
>
>Nothing like patting yourself on the back Jeff!
>
>Bob Moore

If we don't see any more postings from him in the near future, we'll
know he threw his arm out of joint doing it.

vince norris

mqd_117.3
December 22nd 03, 02:53 AM
Jeff Dakers wrote:
> *Hi everyone, I Just got a new enroute plotter for VFR flying, and it
> is
> amazing! If you haven't heard about it, it's made by Jeffron
> Industries
> and they call it the Speed Wizard and it's great for finding out
> ETA's and
> groundspeed real fast while your flying. It really is so easy I
> can't
> believe it. It's also quite small, only 8" x about 2" so it fits in
> my
> pocket. While this is the main function, it also doubles as a
> protractor
> and nautical mile ruler, all in a very easy to read format.
>
> Good job to the guys at Jeffron, the Speed Wizard is a great product!
> If
> anyone wants to find out about it, they have some free info available
> at
> this address, just send a blank email to
> to
> find out about it. Pick one up, you'll be glad you did. JD
> *

Tool !!!

MQD 117.3


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Jim Fisher
December 22nd 03, 03:00 AM
"Jeff Dakers" > wrote in message
...
> Hi everyone, I Just got a new enroute plotter for VFR flying, and it is
> amazing! If you haven't heard about it, it's made by Jeffron Industries
> and they call it the Speed Wizard

Excellent! Good luck with your swell invention, Jeffron.

I've also come up with an invention and wish to toss out the idea to you
folks.

My device consists of three digits that attach to the end of your palm.
Each digit represents about five nautical miles. With just these three
individual digits (called "index" (tm), "birdie" (tm) and "ring" (tm)), you
can compute time and distance down to the nearest HOUR!

If you buy within the next ten minutes, I'll give you my three page book
"Advanced Alabama Math" that will help you compute the time/distance to the
nearest MINUTE (or so) using nothing but brain cells.

Just in time for Christmas.

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Teacherjh
December 22nd 03, 06:29 AM
>>
If you buy within the next ten minutes, I'll give you my three page book
"Advanced Alabama Math" that will help you compute the time/distance to the
nearest MINUTE (or so) using nothing but brain cells.
<<

Do you supply the brain cells? I'd need the package deal.

Jose


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Jim Fisher
December 22nd 03, 04:35 PM
Teacherjh" > wrote in message

> Do you supply the brain cells? I'd need the package deal.

Sorry, you missed the ten-minute window for ordering. I'm all sold out.

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