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S Ramirez
December 21st 03, 12:57 PM
Hi there, does anyone have any comments on airports around the Columbia, SC
area? My wife and I are thinking of making a trip to Columbia this coming
Friday, and we need some comments and advice on where to land and park the
airplane overnight. We have friends and local transportation already
available.

Thanks.

Simon Ramirez, Orlando, FL

Rad
December 21st 03, 05:03 PM
KCUB may be a good option.


"S Ramirez" > wrote in message
om...
> Hi there, does anyone have any comments on airports around the Columbia,
SC
> area? My wife and I are thinking of making a trip to Columbia this coming
> Friday, and we need some comments and advice on where to land and park the
> airplane overnight. We have friends and local transportation already
> available.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Simon Ramirez, Orlando, FL
>
>

smackey
December 21st 03, 07:27 PM
"S Ramirez" > wrote in message >...
> Hi there, does anyone have any comments on airports around the Columbia, SC
> area? My wife and I are thinking of making a trip to Columbia this coming
> Friday, and we need some comments and advice on where to land and park the
> airplane overnight. We have friends and local transportation already
> available.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Simon Ramirez, Orlando, FL


Simon,

I flew into Columbia Metropolitan (CAE), the main airport, in my C172
last summer. Parked at Eagle Aviation for a week. I was treated very
well, and can highly recommend that FBO. The airport seems to be very
GA friendly. The departure controller was very nice when I decided I
needed a popup clearance about ten minutes after I took off.

S Ramirez
December 21st 03, 09:08 PM
"smackey" > wrote in message
...
> I flew into Columbia Metropolitan (CAE), the main airport, in my C172
> last summer. Parked at Eagle Aviation for a week. I was treated very
> well, and can highly recommend that FBO. The airport seems to be very
> GA friendly. The departure controller was very nice when I decided I
> needed a popup clearance about ten minutes after I took off.

Smackey,

What is a popup clearance?

Simon

Ron Natalie
December 21st 03, 09:57 PM
"S Ramirez" > wrote in message news:sZnFb.60969
> What is a popup clearance?

An abbreviated IFR plan and the resulting clearance filed directly with
the controller.

S Ramirez
December 21st 03, 10:11 PM
"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "S Ramirez" > wrote in message
news:sZnFb.60969
> > What is a popup clearance?
>
> An abbreviated IFR plan and the resulting clearance filed directly with
> the controller.

Is this the same thing as directly filing an IFR flight plan in air or are
there several types of IFR clearances filed with the controller while in the
air, the popup clearance being one of them?

Simon

Ron Natalie
December 21st 03, 10:59 PM
"S Ramirez" > wrote in message om...
> "Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
> m...
> >
> > "S Ramirez" > wrote in message
> news:sZnFb.60969
> > > What is a popup clearance?
> >
> > An abbreviated IFR plan and the resulting clearance filed directly with
> > the controller.
>
> Is this the same thing as directly filing an IFR flight plan in air or are
> there several types of IFR clearances filed with the controller while in the
> air, the popup clearance being one of them?
>
It's the same thing. Usually the controller doesn't take the entire 15 blocks
or whatever it is of the IFR plan, just the essential information. The alternative
is to pop over to a FSS frequency and air file the plan with them and then open
it like you'd had filed it on the ground (albeit starting at some point in the air).

Bill J
December 22nd 03, 12:55 AM
I have used both often. I Like CAE better than CUB, except the location
of CUB happened to be very close to destination. I would choose based on
shortest ground travel.

S Ramirez wrote:
> Hi there, does anyone have any comments on airports around the Columbia, SC
> area? My wife and I are thinking of making a trip to Columbia this coming
> Friday, and we need some comments and advice on where to land and park the
> airplane overnight. We have friends and local transportation already
> available.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Simon Ramirez, Orlando, FL
>
>

Robert Coffey
December 22nd 03, 01:22 AM
I don't know about any other airports around Columbia, but I would NOT
recommend Saluda (6j4). I went there to pick up a friend who had been on
a golf outing. At 2pm on a Sunday the place was deserted i.e. no fuel.
Tall weeds had grown up in the runway. Needless to say the pavement
wasn't in very good condition. I stopped by Greenwood Co. (GRD) on the
way back to get fuel. Nice, very nice.

S Ramirez wrote:
> Hi there, does anyone have any comments on airports around the Columbia, SC
> area? My wife and I are thinking of making a trip to Columbia this coming
> Friday, and we need some comments and advice on where to land and park the
> airplane overnight. We have friends and local transportation already
> available.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Simon Ramirez, Orlando, FL
>
>

Jim Fisher
December 22nd 03, 04:32 PM
"S Ramirez" > wrote in message
om...
> Hi there, does anyone have any comments on airports around the Columbia,
SC
> area? My wife and I are thinking of making a trip to Columbia this coming
> Friday, and we need some comments and advice on where to land and park the
> airplane overnight. We have friends and local transportation already
> available.

Howdy Simon,

I grew up in Columbia. Let me know if you need suggestions on what to do
and see there. Cool town.

As for airports, your choices are limited to either Columbia Metropolitan
(CAE) or Owens Field (CUB). CAE is a fair distance west of downtown but
closer to the interstates. CUB is on the east side of town - far form the
interstates but closer to downtown. Your choice really depends on what side
of town your friend reside . . or perhaps the price of fuel. Tell me what
neighborhood or part of town they live in and I'll tell you what airport is
most convenient.

CAE is the "big" (but GA friendly) airport with two huge runways. Eagle
Aviation has been around a long time and have cute chicks at the counter. I
used to go "parking" on roof of their facility. One of their ex-employees
used to be the park-ee that turned me on to the secret rooftop accessway.
Makin' love 30 feet from the runway with the smell of avgas in the air is
probably what really motivated me to eventually become a pilot. . . but I
digress.

Very good "ass-kissin'" service last time I was there (golf cart to carry
you 30 feet from your plane and all that).

CUB is a small, well equipped GA airport. Don't know about the
counter-chicks or the service but Airnav seems to have favorable comments
about them.

--
Jim Fisher

EDR
December 22nd 03, 06:20 PM
I landed at CAE two years ago enroute to PBI.
I used Columbia Aviation on the southeast corner of the airport.
Nowhere near the service Jim described at Eagle Aviation, though.
Hotels and restaurants are a mile or two down the road by the
interstate.

Hankal
December 22nd 03, 08:01 PM
>I landed at CAE two years ago enroute to PBI.
>I used Columbia Aviation on the southeast corner of the airport.

I landed there on my way from and to SHD VA. Good service for fuel. Tower was
very helpful on my trip back to PBI. I was in and out of clouds and had a tough
time finding the airport. Was cleared to land RWY 11. I was a little
disoriented and confirmed with tower that I was on left base to RWY 11.
Previous was ask to land ILS rwy 5.
Everyone was very helpful.
Hank.

S Ramirez
December 23rd 03, 02:11 AM
"Jim Fisher" > wrote in message
...
> Howdy Simon,
>
> I grew up in Columbia. Let me know if you need suggestions on what to do
> and see there. Cool town.
>
> As for airports, your choices are limited to either Columbia Metropolitan
> (CAE) or Owens Field (CUB). CAE is a fair distance west of downtown but
> closer to the interstates. CUB is on the east side of town - far form the
> interstates but closer to downtown. Your choice really depends on what
side
> of town your friend reside . . or perhaps the price of fuel. Tell me
what
> neighborhood or part of town they live in and I'll tell you what airport
is
> most convenient.
>
> CAE is the "big" (but GA friendly) airport with two huge runways. Eagle
> Aviation has been around a long time and have cute chicks at the counter.
I
> used to go "parking" on roof of their facility. One of their ex-employees
> used to be the park-ee that turned me on to the secret rooftop accessway.
> Makin' love 30 feet from the runway with the smell of avgas in the air is
> probably what really motivated me to eventually become a pilot. . . but I
> digress.
>
> Very good "ass-kissin'" service last time I was there (golf cart to carry
> you 30 feet from your plane and all that).
>
> CUB is a small, well equipped GA airport. Don't know about the
> counter-chicks or the service but Airnav seems to have favorable comments
> about them.
>
> --
> Jim Fisher

Howdy Dude,

LOL, I enjoyed the above "stories." The counter chickies may be nice, but I
will be with the ultimate woman - my wife! She just graduated from college,
and we're taking a nice relatively short trip to see our uncle and aunt in
Irmo. Surely you know where that is. Which airport would you recommend? I
called up CUB and they said they have no ramp fees and relatively cheap gas.
If it is too far out of the way for my aunt and uncle, then I will go to
CAE; otherwise, I'll go to CUB. What do you think?

Can you tell me where the secret rooftop access is? If time permits and we
go to CAE, I'd like to take my wife up to the roof. I know we'll have a
good time, but I'm afraid I might give her shingles. :)

Simon

Jim Fisher
December 23rd 03, 09:07 PM
"S Ramirez" > wrote in message
we're taking a nice relatively short trip to see our uncle and aunt in
> Irmo. Surely you know where that is. Which airport would you recommend?

Irmo is to the north-northwest of downtown and due north from CAE. I'd
definately recommend CAE. Get on I-26 northbound and Irmo is about 10 miles
up the road.

CUB is waaaay across town on the east side of downtown.

> called up CUB and they said they have no ramp fees and relatively cheap
gas.
> If it is too far out of the way for my aunt and uncle, then I will go to
> CAE; otherwise, I'll go to CUB. What do you think?

Depends on how much money you will save. Irmo is 10 miles form CAE and
mostly interstate between. Irmo is about 10 to 15 miles from CUB but there
is no really efficient way to get to CUB from Irmo. You have to go through
downtown and then some - which may be fine if you want to see some of
Columbia while you're there.

Check out Kyler's site for a map here: http://tinyurl.com/2euyh


> Can you tell me where the secret rooftop access is? If time permits and
we
> go to CAE, I'd like to take my wife up to the roof. I know we'll have a
> good time, but I'm afraid I might give her shingles. :)

Snicker. There are no shingles. Just a flat roof. Tar stains may be an
issue, though. Those don't come out of underwear, you know.

It's not on the roof of Eagle aviation itself. If you are standing on road
behind Eagle aviation, there is a building to the right that has (probably
"had" in these trying times) a fire escape on the side of the building
leading to the flat roof of that building. Go up the steps, lay down a
blankie and watch the planes go by!

--
Jim Fisher

smackey
December 24th 03, 01:40 AM
"Jim Fisher" > wrote in message >...

>> Eagle Aviation ...and have cute chicks at the counter.


Yes; I forgot about that. Jeesh!! And she had the cutest southern accent. :)

smackey
December 24th 03, 01:41 AM
"S Ramirez" > wrote in message >...
> "smackey" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I flew into Columbia Metropolitan (CAE), the main airport, in my C172
> > last summer. Parked at Eagle Aviation for a week. I was treated very
> > well, and can highly recommend that FBO. The airport seems to be very
> > GA friendly. The departure controller was very nice when I decided I
> > needed a popup clearance about ten minutes after I took off.
>
> Smackey,
>
> What is a popup clearance?
>
> Simon

It also means I failed to properly read the weather. ;)

Sng Ramirez
December 24th 03, 12:08 PM
"smackey" > wrote in message
m...
> "Jim Fisher" > wrote in message
>...
>
> >> Eagle Aviation ...and have cute chicks at the counter.
>
>
> Yes; I forgot about that. Jeesh!! And she had the cutest southern accent.
:)

Those Southern accents kill me every time, but only from the chickies!

I do remember an incident once when a fellow engineer and I were sent to an
off-site location in Denton, TX to work at another company's site. He was
from Detroit and could imitate any accent in the book, and he was good at
it! When we got there we got the customary hotel stay until we could find a
place to stay for 9 months (one gestation period).

About a month later, we found some apartments at the same place. We both
had to go to the Denton City utilities to get our electricity turned on.
When we got there, we found a room full of people waiting around to be
serviced. We noticed that we had to take a number, so we took one number,
thinking that they could help us both at the same time. There were two
great looking chickies up there calling out numbers and helping people. The
place was busier than hell.

Anyway, our number was called and we both sprang to the counter. One of
them said "Can we help yall?" in a wonderful Texas drawl. The following
conversation ensued, all using that exact wonderful Texas drawl:

Ed: "You shore can, are you talking to him or are you talking to me?"
Her: "I'm talking to both of yall."
Ed: "You can't be talking to both of us."
Her: "Why's that?"
Ed: "Because everyone knows 'yalls' singular."
Her: "Yalls singular?"
Ed: "Yes, maam, 'yalls' singular, 'all yalls' plural."

You had to have been there. Knowing that Ed was a honky from Detroit,
Michigan didn't help me at all. I had to do the best I could from laughing,
knowing that a honk from Detroit was supposedly teaching two Texas women how
to speak their own language!

Simon

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