LVVSA Roach Dry Lake Fall Auto-Tow Extravaganza

[Grider Pirate[_2_]]

The date has been set for the weekend of 27/28 October (weather
permitting) for the LVVSA Fall Auto-Tow event. The location is Roach
dry lake, off Interstate 15 just north of the California/Nevada
border. Directions can be found on the LVVSA.org website.
Auto and Aero tows, great food, lots of fun. We will have a rope
capable of towing the big two-place gliders (G103 and Janus C) this
year.

[Dan Marotta]

Are plain old 15/18 meter ships welcome?


"Grider Pirate" > wrote in message
...
> The date has been set for the weekend of 27/28 October (weather
> permitting) for the LVVSA Fall Auto-Tow event. The location is Roach
> dry lake, off Interstate 15 just north of the California/Nevada
> border. Directions can be found on the LVVSA.org website.
> Auto and Aero tows, great food, lots of fun. We will have a rope
> capable of towing the big two-place gliders (G103 and Janus C) this
> year.

[[email protected]]

On Friday, August 24, 2012 9:15:38 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Are plain old 15/18 meter ships welcome? "Grider Pirate" > wrote in message ... > The date has been set for the weekend of 27/28 October (weather > permitting) for the LVVSA Fall Auto-Tow event. The location is Roach > dry lake, off Interstate 15 just north of the California/Nevada > border. Directions can be found on the LVVSA.org website. > Auto and Aero tows, great food, lots of fun. We will have a rope > capable of towing the big two-place gliders (G103 and Janus C) this > year.

Yes! Dan W from Northern Utah (NUTSO) brought his Ventus down last time. Took only two tows all weekend, and 'got away' on both.

[Dan Marotta]

We're planning to attend, then!


> wrote in message
...
On Friday, August 24, 2012 9:15:38 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Are plain old 15/18 meter ships welcome? "Grider Pirate"
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > The date has been set for the weekend of 27/28 October (weather >
> permitting) for the LVVSA Fall Auto-Tow event. The location is Roach > dry
> lake, off Interstate 15 just north of the California/Nevada > border.
> Directions can be found on the LVVSA.org website. > Auto and Aero tows,
> great food, lots of fun. We will have a rope > capable of towing the big
> two-place gliders (G103 and Janus C) this > year.

Yes! Dan W from Northern Utah (NUTSO) brought his Ventus down last time.
Took only two tows all weekend, and 'got away' on both.

[K]

On Friday, August 24, 2012 8:59:55 AM UTC-6, Grider Pirate wrote:
> The date has been set for the weekend of 27/28 October (weather
>
> permitting) for the LVVSA Fall Auto-Tow event. The location is Roach
>
> dry lake, off Interstate 15 just north of the California/Nevada
>
> border. Directions can be found on the LVVSA.org website.
>
> Auto and Aero tows, great food, lots of fun. We will have a rope
>
> capable of towing the big two-place gliders (G103 and Janus C) this
>
> year.

Would it be possible to get an Auto Tow Endorsement?

[Dan Marotta]

Got recommendations for places to stay?


"K" > wrote in message
...
> On Friday, August 24, 2012 8:59:55 AM UTC-6, Grider Pirate wrote:
>> The date has been set for the weekend of 27/28 October (weather
>>
>> permitting) for the LVVSA Fall Auto-Tow event. The location is Roach
>>
>> dry lake, off Interstate 15 just north of the California/Nevada
>>
>> border. Directions can be found on the LVVSA.org website.
>>
>> Auto and Aero tows, great food, lots of fun. We will have a rope
>>
>> capable of towing the big two-place gliders (G103 and Janus C) this
>>
>> year.
>
> Would it be possible to get an Auto Tow Endorsement?

[T[_2_]]

We camp on the lake bed. There are 3 hotels in Primm and 1 in Jean.
Camping out is part of the event.

Ground launch endorsements are possible. Club members first.
T

[Uncle Fuzzy[_2_]]

Excellent!
I'll try to remember to update this thread if conditions change at
Roach. Here's a map to the dry lake from the Jean airport.

http://lvvsa.org/Pictures/Events/RoachDryLakeMapNew.jpg

[Dan Marotta]

I've emailed over a week ago to two addresses on the LVVS website and gotten
no response so I'll post my questions here:

My wife and I plan to bring my LAK-17a to Roach Dry lake for the ground
launch activities and I want to know if there are any special requirements
to participate.

I'm ground launch qualified with both winch and auto tow. I'm also
qualified to self launch (if I had one!) and aero tow.

I'm an SSA member and fully insured and I hold a Diamond Badge.

So... Will we be welcome and will I be able to ground launch with you?

Dan


"Uncle Fuzzy" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Excellent!
> I'll try to remember to update this thread if conditions change at
> Roach. Here's a map to the dry lake from the Jean airport.
>
> http://lvvsa.org/Pictures/Events/RoachDryLakeMapNew.jpg

[Uncle Fuzzy[_2_]]

On Sunday, September 23, 2012 6:25:32 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> I've emailed over a week ago to two addresses on the LVVS website and gotten no response so I'll post my questions here: My wife and I plan to bring my LAK-17a to Roach Dry lake for the ground launch activities and I want to know if there are any special requirements to participate. I'm ground launch qualified with both winch and auto tow. I'm also qualified to self launch (if I had one!) and aero tow. I'm an SSA member and fully insured and I hold a Diamond Badge. So... Will we be welcome and will I be able to ground launch with you? Dan "Uncle Fuzzy" > wrote in message ... > > > Excellent! > I'll try to remember to update this thread if conditions change at > Roach. Here's a map to the dry lake from the Jean airport. > > http://lvvsa.org/Pictures/Events/RoachDryLakeMapNew.jpg

You will absolutely be welcomed! You must be an SSA member, and pay the whopping $10.00 guest membership fee (per day). Auto tows will be $10.00 each, with aero tows available at current club (cheap!) rates. Bring sunscreen, lots of water or whatever you use to maintain hydration. I'm going out weekend after next to drive our line and check conditions. If we get significant rain, and the dry lake is un-usable, we'll camp at the airport and do aero tows.
Feel free to email me directly from here, or at griderpirate<at>yahoo<dot>com
Cheers,
Jim

[Dan Marotta]

Can't make "reply to sender" work with my mail reader.

Great! We'll see you there. Having just camped for a weekend at Truth or
Consequences with the sky dive club's annual Water Boogie, we elected to get
a motel room.

Dan


"Uncle Fuzzy" > wrote in message
...
On Sunday, September 23, 2012 6:25:32 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> I've emailed over a week ago to two addresses on the LVVS website and
> gotten no response so I'll post my questions here: My wife and I plan to
> bring my LAK-17a to Roach Dry lake for the ground launch activities and I
> want to know if there are any special requirements to participate. I'm
> ground launch qualified with both winch and auto tow. I'm also qualified
> to self launch (if I had one!) and aero tow. I'm an SSA member and fully
> insured and I hold a Diamond Badge. So... Will we be welcome and will I be
> able to ground launch with you? Dan "Uncle Fuzzy" >
> wrote in message
> ...
> > > > Excellent! > I'll try to remember to update this thread if
> conditions change at > Roach. Here's a map to the dry lake from the Jean
> airport. > > http://lvvsa.org/Pictures/Events/RoachDryLakeMapNew.jpg

You will absolutely be welcomed! You must be an SSA member, and pay the
whopping $10.00 guest membership fee (per day). Auto tows will be $10.00
each, with aero tows available at current club (cheap!) rates. Bring
sunscreen, lots of water or whatever you use to maintain hydration. I'm
going out weekend after next to drive our line and check conditions. If we
get significant rain, and the dry lake is un-usable, we'll camp at the
airport and do aero tows.
Feel free to email me directly from here, or at
griderpirate<at>yahoo<dot>com
Cheers,
Jim

[Uncle Fuzzy[_2_]]

Okay on the Hotel, but you really need to stick around long enough for dinner. There's always WAY too much food! We also do breakfast Sunday morning.. <G>


On Monday, September 24, 2012 9:26:21 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Can't make "reply to sender" work with my mail reader. Great! We'll see you there. Having just camped for a weekend at Truth or Consequences with the sky dive club's annual Water Boogie, we elected to get a motel room. Dan "Uncle Fuzzy" > wrote in message ... On Sunday, September 23, 2012 6:25:32 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote: > I've emailed over a week ago to two addresses on the LVVS website and > gotten no response so I'll post my questions here: My wife and I plan to > bring my LAK-17a to Roach Dry lake for the ground launch activities and I > want to know if there are any special requirements to participate. I'm > ground launch qualified with both winch and auto tow. I'm also qualified > to self launch (if I had one!) and aero tow. I'm an SSA member and fully > insured and I hold a Diamond Badge. So... Will we be welcome and will I be > able to ground launch with you? Dan "Uncle Fuzzy" > > wrote in message > ... > > > > Excellent! > I'll try to remember to update this thread if > conditions change at > Roach. Here's a map to the dry lake from the Jean > airport. > > http://lvvsa.org/Pictures/Events/RoachDryLakeMapNew.jpg You will absolutely be welcomed! You must be an SSA member, and pay the whopping $10.00 guest membership fee (per day). Auto tows will be $10.00 each, with aero tows available at current club (cheap!) rates. Bring sunscreen, lots of water or whatever you use to maintain hydration. I'm going out weekend after next to drive our line and check conditions. If we get significant rain, and the dry lake is un-usable, we'll camp at the airport and do aero tows. Feel free to email me directly from here, or at griderpirate<at>yahoo<dot>com Cheers, Jim

[Dan Marotta]

We love dinner at the field...! ...And beer, and telling lies!


"Uncle Fuzzy" > wrote in message
...
Okay on the Hotel, but you really need to stick around long enough for
dinner. There's always WAY too much food! We also do breakfast Sunday
morning. <G>


On Monday, September 24, 2012 9:26:21 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Can't make "reply to sender" work with my mail reader. Great! We'll see
> you there. Having just camped for a weekend at Truth or Consequences with
> the sky dive club's annual Water Boogie, we elected to get a motel room.
> Dan "Uncle Fuzzy" > wrote in message
> ... On Sunday,
> September 23, 2012 6:25:32 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote: > I've emailed
> over a week ago to two addresses on the LVVS website and > gotten no
> response so I'll post my questions here: My wife and I plan to > bring my
> LAK-17a to Roach Dry lake for the ground launch activities and I > want to
> know if there are any special requirements to participate. I'm > ground
> launch qualified with both winch and auto tow. I'm also qualified > to
> self launch (if I had one!) and aero tow. I'm an SSA member and fully >
> insured and I hold a Diamond Badge. So... Will we be welcome and will I be
> > able to ground launch with you? Dan "Uncle Fuzzy" >
> > wrote in message >
> ...
> > > > > Excellent! > I'll try to remember to update this thread if >
> conditions change at > Roach. Here's a map to the dry lake from the Jean >
> airport. > > http://lvvsa.org/Pictures/Events/RoachDryLakeMapNew.jpg You
> will absolutely be welcomed! You must be an SSA member, and pay the
> whopping $10.00 guest membership fee (per day). Auto tows will be $10.00
> each, with aero tows available at current club (cheap!) rates. Bring
> sunscreen, lots of water or whatever you use to maintain hydration. I'm
> going out weekend after next to drive our line and check conditions. If we
> get significant rain, and the dry lake is un-usable, we'll camp at the
> airport and do aero tows. Feel free to email me directly from here, or at
> griderpirate<at>yahoo<dot>com Cheers, Jim

[JayM]

On Monday, September 24, 2012 8:43:29 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote>
Dan,
BTW I did reply to your email on the 18th but you failed to allow incoming messages from me so you never got it.
SoaringJay AT Cox Dot Net


We love dinner at the field...! ...And beer, and telling lies!

[Dan Marotta]

When I found your message in my spam folder, I allowed it and future
messages to pass. It's all good now.


"JayM" > wrote in message
...
> On Monday, September 24, 2012 8:43:29 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote>
> Dan,
> BTW I did reply to your email on the 18th but you failed to allow incoming
> messages from me so you never got it.
> SoaringJay AT Cox Dot Net
>
>
> We love dinner at the field...! ...And beer, and telling lies!

[Grider Pirate[_2_]]

On Aug 24, 7:59*am, Grider Pirate > wrote:
> The date has been set for the weekend of 27/28 October *(weather
> permitting) for theLVVSAFall Auto-Tow event. The location is Roach
> dry lake, off Interstate 15 just north of the California/Nevada
> border. *Directions can be found on theLVVSA.org website.
> Auto and Aero tows, great food, lots of fun. *We will have a rope
> capable of towing the big two-place gliders (G103 and Janus C) this
> year.

We had some really BIG rain out here last week, and the dry like
currently isn't. I'll check again next weekend, and report what I
find.

[Dan Marotta]

We can still cancel the motel reservation. Please keep us informed.


"Grider Pirate" > wrote in message
...
On Aug 24, 7:59 am, Grider Pirate > wrote:
> The date has been set for the weekend of 27/28 October (weather
> permitting) for theLVVSAFall Auto-Tow event. The location is Roach
> dry lake, off Interstate 15 just north of the California/Nevada
> border. Directions can be found on theLVVSA.org website.
> Auto and Aero tows, great food, lots of fun. We will have a rope
> capable of towing the big two-place gliders (G103 and Janus C) this
> year.

We had some really BIG rain out here last week, and the dry like
currently isn't. I'll check again next weekend, and report what I
find.

[Uncle Fuzzy[_2_]]

I'll post here whenever I have an update.

On Monday, October 15, 2012 5:53:36 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> We can still cancel the motel reservation. Please keep us informed.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Grider Pirate" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> On Aug 24, 7:59 am, Grider Pirate > wrote:
>
> > The date has been set for the weekend of 27/28 October (weather
>
> > permitting) for theLVVSAFall Auto-Tow event. The location is Roach
>
> > dry lake, off Interstate 15 just north of the California/Nevada
>
> > border. Directions can be found on theLVVSA.org website.
>
> > Auto and Aero tows, great food, lots of fun. We will have a rope
>
> > capable of towing the big two-place gliders (G103 and Janus C) this
>
> > year.
>
>
>
> We had some really BIG rain out here last week, and the dry like
>
> currently isn't. I'll check again next weekend, and report what I
>
> find.

[Uncle Fuzzy[_2_]]

I was unable to make the time to get out to the dry lake over the weekend. I will try tomorrow after work.


On Monday, October 15, 2012 9:16:44 PM UTC-7, Uncle Fuzzy wrote:
> I'll post here whenever I have an update.
>
>
>
> On Monday, October 15, 2012 5:53:36 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
>
> > We can still cancel the motel reservation. Please keep us informed.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > "Grider Pirate" > wrote in message
>
> >
>
> > ...
>
> >
>
> > On Aug 24, 7:59 am, Grider Pirate > wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > The date has been set for the weekend of 27/28 October (weather
>
> >
>
> > > permitting) for theLVVSAFall Auto-Tow event. The location is Roach
>
> >
>
> > > dry lake, off Interstate 15 just north of the California/Nevada
>
> >
>
> > > border. Directions can be found on theLVVSA.org website.
>
> >
>
> > > Auto and Aero tows, great food, lots of fun. We will have a rope
>
> >
>
> > > capable of towing the big two-place gliders (G103 and Janus C) this
>
> >
>
> > > year.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > We had some really BIG rain out here last week, and the dry like
>
> >
>
> > currently isn't. I'll check again next weekend, and report what I
>
> >
>
> > find.

[Grider Pirate[_2_]]

The surface of Roach Dry lake is good. The road to it suffered from
the recent hard rain. It is safe, and there are no places where a
normal car would get stuck, but 10-ish mph is about as fast as you'd
want to go. Rigging at Jean and taking a short tug to get the glider
there is an option.

On Oct 22, 2:09*pm, Uncle Fuzzy > wrote:
> I was unable to make the time to get out to the dry lake over the weekend.. *I will try tomorrow after work.
>
>
>
> On Monday, October 15, 2012 9:16:44 PM UTC-7, Uncle Fuzzy wrote:
> > I'll post here whenever I have an update.
>
> > On Monday, October 15, 2012 5:53:36 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
>
> > > We can still cancel the motel reservation. *Please keep us informed..
>
> > > "Grider Pirate" > wrote in message
>
> > ....
>
> > > On Aug 24, 7:59 am, Grider Pirate > wrote:
>
> > > > The date has been set for the weekend of 27/28 October (weather
>
> > > > permitting) for theLVVSAFall Auto-Tow event. The location is Roach
>
> > > > dry lake, off Interstate 15 just north of the California/Nevada
>
> > > > border. Directions can be found on theLVVSA.org website.
>
> > > > Auto and Aero tows, great food, lots of fun. We will have a rope
>
> > > > capable of towing the big two-place gliders (G103 and Janus C) this
>
> > > > year.
>
> > > We had some really BIG rain out here last week, and the dry like
>
> > > currently isn't. *I'll check again next weekend, and report what I
>
> > > find.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

[Grider Pirate[_2_]]

On Oct 15, 5:53*pm, "Dan Marotta" > wrote:
> We can still cancel the motel reservation. *Please keep us informed.
>
> "Grider Pirate" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Aug 24, 7:59 am, Grider Pirate > wrote:
>
> > The date has been set for the weekend of 27/28 October (weather
> > permitting) for theLVVSAFall Auto-Tow event. The location is Roach
> > dry lake, off Interstate 15 just north of the California/Nevada
> > border. Directions can be found on theLVVSA.org website.
> > Auto and Aero tows, great food, lots of fun. We will have a rope
> > capable of towing the big two-place gliders (G103 and Janus C) this
> > year.
>
> We had some really BIG rain out here last week, and the dry like
> currently isn't. *I'll check again next weekend, and report what I
> find.

The fall 2012 Roach Dry Lake Auto Tow event was another good time! We
didn't
get any cooperation from the lift dogs, but had a good time anyhow.
The surface
of the lakebed was better than ever, the food great, and the fire hot!
Dave H.
introduced us to a weird and interesting practice. He placed a shovel
full of
hot coals under the camp chairs of folks. It's amazing how quickly
that dispels
the chill!
Jo-Ann and George provided coffee, lattes, and blueberry pancakes for
breakfast, while Mad Dog produced an abundance of awesome breakfast
burritos.
The serving table was liberally covered with an assortment of muffins,
sweet
rolls, and doughnuts. As usual, the only thing we were short of was
enough
hungry folks to deal with all of the food!
Dan W. came down from Utah with his Ventus, and Dan M. drove all the
way from
New Mexico with his LAK-17! I think both had a pretty good time,
despite the
lack of lift.

Cheers,
Jim

[Dan Marotta]

A terrific time! Patti and I are already talking about coming back in the
spring and camping on the lake with the rest of you.


"Grider Pirate" > wrote in message
...
On Oct 15, 5:53 pm, "Dan Marotta" > wrote:
> We can still cancel the motel reservation. Please keep us informed.
>
> "Grider Pirate" > wrote in message
>
> ...
> On Aug 24, 7:59 am, Grider Pirate > wrote:
>
> > The date has been set for the weekend of 27/28 October (weather
> > permitting) for theLVVSAFall Auto-Tow event. The location is Roach
> > dry lake, off Interstate 15 just north of the California/Nevada
> > border. Directions can be found on theLVVSA.org website.
> > Auto and Aero tows, great food, lots of fun. We will have a rope
> > capable of towing the big two-place gliders (G103 and Janus C) this
> > year.
>
> We had some really BIG rain out here last week, and the dry like
> currently isn't. I'll check again next weekend, and report what I
> find.

The fall 2012 Roach Dry Lake Auto Tow event was another good time! We
didn't
get any cooperation from the lift dogs, but had a good time anyhow.
The surface
of the lakebed was better than ever, the food great, and the fire hot!
Dave H.
introduced us to a weird and interesting practice. He placed a shovel
full of
hot coals under the camp chairs of folks. It's amazing how quickly
that dispels
the chill!
Jo-Ann and George provided coffee, lattes, and blueberry pancakes for
breakfast, while Mad Dog produced an abundance of awesome breakfast
burritos.
The serving table was liberally covered with an assortment of muffins,
sweet
rolls, and doughnuts. As usual, the only thing we were short of was
enough
hungry folks to deal with all of the food!
Dan W. came down from Utah with his Ventus, and Dan M. drove all the
way from
New Mexico with his LAK-17! I think both had a pretty good time,
despite the
lack of lift.

Cheers,
Jim

[Uncle Fuzzy[_2_]]

On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:18:26 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> A terrific time! Patti and I are already talking about coming back in the
>
> spring and camping on the lake with the rest of you.
>
That's WAY more fun, and in the spring, it won't get so darn cold at night! Who knows, we might even have some Thermals!!

[Dan Wrobel]

I had a lot of fun even though the thermals were missing this time - maybe next spring we will have 300 and 400 km flights like we did last spring. I'll be back in the spring for the next encampment for sure and bring my telescope again - Saturn and Jupiter will both be visible then.

Thanks again for letting us "outsiders" enjoy your club hospitality.

Dan Wrobel - DW



On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:04:04 PM UTC-6, Uncle Fuzzy wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6:18:26 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote: > A terrific time! Patti and I are already talking about coming back in the > > spring and camping on the lake with the rest of you. > That's WAY more fun, and in the spring, it won't get so darn cold at night! Who knows, we might even have some Thermals!!